Bomber Links: Plunking, Payback, and Other Shenanigans
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So, you may not have noticed this, but it got a little bit chippy in the Yankees last series against the Detroit Tigers. It all started when that guy -->, Brett Gardner, took out the feet of Carlos Guillen to try and break up a game ending double play. Guillen had to make a trip to the 15 day disabled list, and the rest of the Tigers were (understandably) ruffled.
The next day, GGBG was hit, Miguel Cabrera was hit, Derek Jeter was thrown behind, Jim Leyland was ejected, and both benches were warned by the umpires in the first inning. The warning, and it's lack of effectiveness, got Ken Plutnicki from the New York Times wondering about the real affect of warning the benches:
Should the warning have been issued in the first place? What purpose did it serve? Is the warning a useful tool for the umpires to control hostilities, or does it heighten tensions?
While I think the umpire needs to have something at his disposal before he gets to ejections, it does seem like the warning more often than not merely serves to escalate. And, when you realize what a dangerous game beanball is, the consequences are startling. Jeff Passan of Yahoo Sports wrote a really excellent piece on the lasting affects of concussions, more specifically, the way they have really gotten in the ways of the careers of Justin Morneau and Corey Koskie. The conclusion of his article can be found below in a gray box:
There are games, and there are lives, and never should anyone be so blithe as to confuse them. Ignorance no longer is an excuse. If athletes and teams need more scared-straight ads, they’re readily available in academic studies, cross-sections of damaged brains and the number of coffins filled with men broken by the sport they loved.
And when you look at the lasting repercussions of brain injuries suffered by athletes, I have to admit to being in favor of a more proactive approach. Intentionally throwing at batters and instilling fear has always been a part of the game and it always will be. There are too many people like Josh Beckett who get a little smirk out of it, too many managers like Tony LaRussa who use it as a weapon, and too many guys that just want to protect their teammates for it to ever go away. But, at the very least, can we see some more support for Cervelli-style helmets so we don't keep watching player's brains turn into mush?
Roger Clemens is stupid. While most Yankees didn't want to talk about it the Rocket's current tom foolery, Lance Berkman still had his back. Quoth Sir Lance-A-Lot:
"I always heard honesty is the best policy and it is. Our society is such that if you say you made a mistake and you own up to it, they'll forgive you almost anything."
"He's my friend. I'm not going to sit here and contradict what he says. Until it's proven one way or another, I'm not going to sit in judgment."
I agree with the sentiment, but to come full circle, Roger Clemens is stupid.
And now that the aforementioned Berkman has landed on the Disabled List after his disagreement with first base and Alex Rodriguez has been out for a few days (but things are looking up for the centaur's triumphant return), the Yankees bench has been a little thinned out. Joe Girardi's new depth has come in the form of recently called up Eduardo Nunez.
In an article from a few weeks ago, Joel Sherman of the New York Post wondered about Brandon Laird and Eduardo Nunez and their future on the left side of the Yankees infield behind two guys you may have heard of (Jetor and A-Rad, if I'm not mistaken). I hope that he is right in thinking that they have a future with the big club, and Nunez's ability to play all over the diamond is certainly encouraging. Even if he doesn't progress the way we are thinking/hoping that he will, the worst I would expect Nunez to turn out is Ramiro Pena 2.0.
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"There are too many people like Josh Beckett..."
LOL well placed
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next." -George Michael Steinbrenner III
by Chris McKeown on Aug 20, 2010 9:04 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
With Berkman hurt there is room to try Montero as a DH in September.
The way he’s hitting now at AAA its worth a shot.
by upstateNYYFan1984 on Aug 20, 2010 9:38 AM EDT reply actions
The problem with the warning system si that it leaves the victimized team (the first thrown at) no recourse.
If Phil Hughes had thrown near a Tiger after Gardner was hit, he would have been tossed, with potentially disastrous consequences to the Yankees. That fact makes the appropriate retaliation come later in the game from a middle reliever whom you don’t mind losing to ejection.
Putting off the whole contretemps [vocabulary word, PAers] for six innings only makes it worse.
PS- There are very few people like Josh Beckett. How many Starbucks-goateed washed-up former world series winners do you know of still pitching in MLB?
by designatedquitter on Aug 20, 2010 9:53 AM EDT reply actions
I know you said pitcher, but I think these are worth sharing



"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."
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"I am a man of great mental power." ~Alfonso Soriano
by Captain_Mick on Aug 20, 2010 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions

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by Lord Duggan on Aug 20, 2010 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions
JETER--AROD
Jetor and A-Rad, if I’m not mistaken).
learn how to spell the names correctly—you are supposed to be a professional
JETER—AROD !!!!!!
Oh. My. God.
Get yourself a sarcasm detector. Or a social life. Or a chill pill.
dont think jeter would do that
Yankees all day.
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At Last
Something I can agree with you about. Good post but skip the music thing.
Everyone's a critic
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by Captain_Mick on Aug 20, 2010 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions
If the problem is head shots, don't let them block the plate
Throwing at someone is not a concussion risk, since you aim for the ass when you drill.
When people get hit in the head, it’s usually an accident.
Maybe you fine or eject or suspend for up and in, but there’s nothing wrong with in-and-in.
by PortlandYankee on Aug 20, 2010 12:45 PM EDT reply actions
I hate throwing at heads
I am aganeist it.
But I look at your situation like this: Gardner took the guy out, one way or another, intentianal or not. The Yankees had to know he was gonna be thrown at, and left it at that.
Gardner took the guy out, he will get thrown at. The situation should end there and we al move on.
But you had to go throw at the Tigers. And that let the situation continue, with warning and guys thrown out.
You shoulda just let Gardner get hit and move on and its over.
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by bestbostonsports on Aug 20, 2010 12:59 PM EDT reply actions
Gardner slid hard but did nothing “illegal” or out of the way. He played the situation the way it should be played.
No, he did nothing illegal
But he is permitted to be thrown at, and the situation is over
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by bestbostonsports on Aug 20, 2010 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions
No, no one "had to go throw at the Tigers".
Gaudin said he didn’t hit Cabrera on purpose. You and whoever else can think he did, but you don’t know what was in his mind at that time. Pitches that aren’t meant to hit people occasionally do, and maybe this one just happened to be ill-timed. Guys were warned after Bonderman hit Gardner. Gaudin had nothing to do with that and said he didn’t even know the benches had been warned. The Yankees rarely if ever resort to that kind of stuff, so I’m sure they thought after Gardner was hit the situation was over.
by WhatwouldJeterdo on Aug 20, 2010 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I didnt see the HBP by Gadin yet
was it a fastball or breaking ball?
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by bestbostonsports on Aug 20, 2010 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I believe it was a fastball, but I'm not sure.
I’m generally the last one to defend Gaudin, but he’s the only one who knows what he meant to do.
by WhatwouldJeterdo on Aug 20, 2010 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Pedey back to the DL
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by Jedi Master A-Rod on Aug 20, 2010 4:53 PM EDT reply actions

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