Missed Opportunities Abound Again in 3-1 Loss
by Travis G on Aug 16, 2010 11:21 PM EDT
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PrintDerek... oh, Derek. It's about time Brett Gardner became the leadoff hitter. Yes, I said it. He's obviously been huge for us in the past, but he's having a very sub-par season while GGBG gets on base more, takes more pitches (he leads the league in fact) and is much faster. What about that doesn't scream 'better leadoff hitter'?
In case you didn't see the proceedings, Jeter came to the plate in the ninth inning with the bases juiced and one out with the Yankees trailing by two. Detroit's closer, Jose Valverde, couldn't throw a strike if his life depended on it. On 2-1, Jeter swung at ball three. He swung at the next pitch too and grounded into a game-ending DP (his second of the game). Oh, he also made a throwing error on a routine play for good measure.
With all that said, the blame can be spread to all the hitters except Granderson (3-3, 2B, BB). Virtually the whole lineup has stopped hitting (0-7 with RISP) and the only reason they scratched across one run was Valverde's extreme wildness.
Who knows what the problem is? Are all the hitters slumping at the same time? Have they faced two incredible pitchers that made it impossible to score? Is it this thing about not seeing the starting pitchers before? It didn't help, of course, that A-Rod (calf) and Swisher (forearm) left the game in the sixth after injuries.
Javy Vazquez looked doomed after allowing a second-inning two-run homer and then loading the bases. He escaped but his pitch count was so high he only lasted four frames. Sergio Mitre and Kerry Wood followed with four shutout innings.
Then entered Joba who conceded a solo shot in the ninth to Miguel Cabrera that looked almost meaningless at the time - who knew Jose Valverde would lose total command of the strike zone and force home a run?
Max Scherzer had nasty stuff: he sat in the low to mid 90s all night. His last pitch of the game (114), in the sixth inning, registered 97 mph.
Three-runs or less counter: 39, with a 10-29 record.
Play of the Game: Take one guess... Yep, DJ's game-ending GDP (-35%).
Comment of the Game: Jedi Master A-Rod... so Jeter is Judas, huh?
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Is it ok for me to say I'm officially getting sick of people bitching about Granderson?
I would think a 3-3 night would help heal some of those wounds.
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next." -George Michael Steinbrenner III
I know you're being sarcastic
But I hate when people bad talk Jeter
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by Chris McKeown on Aug 16, 2010 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t get it either—I think Granderson has been a plus for us this year.
by Yankee Frankee on Aug 16, 2010 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, you can say it.
But it won’t help. People will still rip him because of the overall average/slumps/he’s not Johnny Damon.
by Agent of S.H.I.E.L.D. on Aug 16, 2010 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions
or the fact the difference between Grandy's avg and posada's av is .003
and is only .007 away from tex..but who cares…teh bus
I disagree, Grandy has been very solid for the Yanks
The Yanks are still a playoff team even though many of our players aren’t living up to our expectations. Jeter and Posada are getting older, it really isnt fair to think they are still the same players they once were.
by YankeesJets on Aug 16, 2010 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions
No, it was a joke
I hope he continues his hitting though, it would be nice if Long took some time out from Grandy to help the other hitters,lol
by YankeesJets on Aug 16, 2010 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Awesome but impossible, sadly our Cap hits into his share of DPs
I’ll take the good with the bad when it comes to Jeter. I dont think he is worth 20 million a year anymore though.
by YankeesJets on Aug 17, 2010 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions
Your point has merit, but I can’t see Joe G permanently replacing DJ with Gardner at leadoff.
by Yankee Frankee on Aug 16, 2010 11:25 PM EDT reply actions
I thought he did it some last postseason?
by Agent of S.H.I.E.L.D. on Aug 16, 2010 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions
well if i had to do th eline up in my opnion (and my opinion only) i would like
Gardner and Grandy…gardner is obvious, but grandy mainly for his ability to AVOID the double plays. But too bad grandy isn;t having a better seasons since he would be great in the number 2 hole with his speed and ability to Avoid DP’s. that was one of the reason damon was hitting in the 2 hole last year cuz jeter was a DP machine and Damon was good at avoiding them. On the other hand our 9 hitter last year was melky who gets on base at a good .060 clip lower than gardner, hence jeter hit into less dp’s.
That rearview mirror
I know it’s supposed to be seats in the bus, but at first glance it gave me a Castle Wolfenstein flashback…
Like this?
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by Jedi Master A-Rod on Aug 17, 2010 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions
My guess is that Jeter has 1 more year @ leadoff
…until they can get him to 3000 or he starts a sub-.250 slump.
The whole reason they moved him out of the 2-hole was the GIDP. And really, it’s only a problem when there are men on base.
Also, you want your leadoff hitter to have a little power to go with the OBP. I like Swish in the 2-hole, and think of Gardner as the perfect 9-hole hitter (good OBP & good speed). When Johnson was struggling and GGBG was streaking, I thought he would make a good 2-hitter, but considering Swish’s average and OBP I think Girardi has the right man in that spot.
I was really disappointed to to see Jeter GIDP, especially because at this point I feel like he fails in those “clutch” opportunities as much as he succeeds. Which makes me sad for both of us…sad for his decline and sad that I can be so disappointed in him after all he’s done.
I guess you never think it will happen to your heroes (and if your hero is Barry Bonds, I guess you’d be right…but for the wrong reasons).
by PortlandYankee on Aug 17, 2010 12:21 AM EDT reply actions
normally
i’d agree about the power thing, but their SLG are almost identical. DJ – .387. GGBG – .382.
Though you have to think about career trends as well.
Jeter is slugging well below what he’s capable of (I hope?), while Gardner might not have much room for growth.
by PortlandYankee on Aug 17, 2010 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions
I remember how everyone said he was done in 2004 and 2008
No reason Jeet cannot get 2010 close to his numbers in those years and do in 2011 what he did in 2005 and 2009. Nothing I see in Jeter is because of age. He has a slump year and is swinging at the first pitch too much and getting into pitchers counts. He hits into DP’s. He has ALWAYS hit into DPs, that’s why JoeG moved him to the leadoff spot where he has less chance to GiDP. I would rather have slumping Jeter at the plate when in matters in the post season over a streaking Gardner any day of the week. And if you are not a band wagon- sky if falling fan, so should you.
by HappyLuckyGoldenDragonNumber1! on Aug 17, 2010 8:48 AM EDT up reply actions
And yes, Jeter is Judas
He betrays our chances to win every night
/sarcasm
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by Jedi Master A-Rod on Aug 17, 2010 12:26 AM EDT reply actions
I'm in a terrible slump
After going undefeated in my first 8 games at the new Stadium, I’m now on a 3-game losing streak. DFA me? Move me to different seats? Make me stay home? I’m open to suggestions.
by long time listener on Aug 17, 2010 12:29 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
my bags are already packed
I’m sure the Nats blog needs comments.
by long time listener on Aug 17, 2010 12:36 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Here is an interesting ?
In a hard-core keeper league with no reserve, do you draft Bryce Harper next year, then have him eat bench and keeper spots for the next three?
Is it crazy to even consider this? Or do I roll the dice w. Montero?
by PortlandYankee on Aug 17, 2010 12:40 AM EDT reply actions
I'm no fantasy expert
But it seems like you’re foregoing a lot of points for the hope that he turns into a superstar. I can’t see how that’s a good move.
by long time listener on Aug 17, 2010 12:48 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Can't believe no body has said this in this thread
but with posada DH-ing alot, and the fact that Cervelli seriously just cant hit a lick, I think Montero needs to be called up. Tonight it was necessary. The lack of a 3rd catcher forced the yanks to have cervelli hit with 2nd and 3rd and 2 outs in a 2 run game…
I believe in the Church of Baseball
by Frank Campagnola on Aug 17, 2010 12:43 AM EDT reply actions
Two issues
1) Do you start Montero’s clock now (even if it is the Yankees); and
2) Do you bring a player up who has a lot to learn, and then make him sit on the bench, or immediately put him into lots of pressure situations.
Hopefully, Montero is the everyday catcher in 2012. If not, hopefully he’s DHing & sharing duties w. Romine.
by PortlandYankee on Aug 17, 2010 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions
responses
yeah…let him split catching duties with cervelli, DH when posada catches, or pinch hit in scenarios like tonight.
and for number two, there will always be pressure…
I believe in the Church of Baseball
by Frank Campagnola on Aug 17, 2010 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions
and besides, what's the difference
between sitting on the bench, or sitting on his couch at home? the MLB season goes a lot further than the AAA season does…especially when you’re the Yankees and play into late October / early November
I believe in the Church of Baseball
by Frank Campagnola on Aug 17, 2010 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions
If a player gets called up after a certain date (whenever Strasburg came up) the year doesn’t count as a year of team control. So, the Yankees aren’t losing any time of team-controlled Montero if he is called up right now.
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This is a good point
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next." -George Michael Steinbrenner III
by Chris McKeown on Aug 17, 2010 1:33 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Thanks, champ. I try and sprinkle them in every now and again to offset my usual foolishness.
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mediocre by your standards
I expected more foolishness, not shaving cream.
DFA
A supporter of the MFY.
Now you stop this nonsense right meow
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by Jedi Master A-Rod on Aug 17, 2010 2:06 AM EDT up reply actions
Do I look like a cat to you boy? Am I all nimbly bimbly and drinkin milk out of a saucer meow?
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You want me to punchisize your face
For free?
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by Jedi Master A-Rod on Aug 17, 2010 2:08 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't want a large Farva
I’ve gotten kicked out of so many fast food places for doing that routine
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by Jedi Master A-Rod on Aug 17, 2010 2:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Only you, Farva, can make a dark man blush. And no, we’re not doing it.
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What would you do if you won a million dollars?
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by Jedi Master A-Rod on Aug 17, 2010 2:12 AM EDT up reply actions
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by Jedi Master A-Rod on Aug 17, 2010 2:14 AM EDT up reply actions
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by Jedi Master A-Rod on Aug 17, 2010 2:02 AM EDT up reply actions
An American classic.
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next." -George Michael Steinbrenner III
by Chris McKeown on Aug 17, 2010 2:03 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Only the greatest movie of all time. OF ALL TIME!
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No, I’m not going to let you finish. I’m going to demand that you go watch that movie.
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You better go Netflix that shit right now son
Or you might just get a mustache ride
by HappyLuckyGoldenDragonNumber1! on Aug 17, 2010 8:39 AM EDT up reply actions
lol
Nah you’re 95% of the time spot on
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by Chris McKeown on Aug 17, 2010 1:51 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
you can't
bring him unless he’s going to play everyday. Posada is still the everyday catcher, and Berkman should be over this foot thing in a few days.
so you bring up a guy like chad moeller?
who hits worse than cervelli? a third catcher is necessary, and montero has shown that he deserves it.
I believe in the Church of Baseball
by Frank Campagnola on Aug 17, 2010 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions
there's only 2 or 3 weeks left of the AAA season anyway
he’ll pick up the at bats…
I believe in the Church of Baseball
by Frank Campagnola on Aug 17, 2010 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions
no not really
they yankees play until october…and then playoffs. his bat is valuable. there are only about 20 games left in the AAA season…
they need another catcher. badly.
I believe in the Church of Baseball
by Frank Campagnola on Aug 17, 2010 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions
thats a good point
if the season is over in AAA thats not a bad plan. Unless mangement thinks letting him hit in the MLB will mess him up or discourage him(which I don’t think is the case). Jesus on most other teams but a handful of the elite teams would prob have been called up by now anyway.
Since the face been revealed the game got real
I would hope it opens his eyes a bit
After such a hot streak in AAA after the season is over going 2-16 in MLB might open his eyes just a bit more and let him know that working to improve is always needed.
A supporter of the MFY.
montero if brought up might not lose too many at bats
assuming he replaces cervelli he will prolly play every day game, every time AJ or Javy pitches and etc. basically he might split time 50/50 with posada. i’m saying not saying i’m for his call up, but at this point it’s very well worth considering.
I like what your saying. Yeah if he thinks he has everything figured out in AAA a slump in the MLB might improve his dedication. If he comes up an goes 8-18 with 2 HRs and 7 RBIs that would be okay to.
Since the face been revealed the game got real
see the thing is Posada should be our everyday catcher but..
he’s seeing more plate appearances than he should. Cervelli right now catches 40% of the time. which means he bats a lot more than normal back ups. while he;s been good early, he’s regressing and getting exposed more recently. it sucks to say but cervelli has been more of a negative right now than a positive. his defense has been below avg and his bat isn;t much better
I just realized
In MLB2K10, none of the records by Barry Bonds are in the game.
A supporter of the MFY.
That's because players have to sign a contract with the video game company for them to be in the game
Bonds hasn’t been in games for a few years now even though he’s technically a free agent still
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next." -George Michael Steinbrenner III
by Chris McKeown on Aug 17, 2010 1:32 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
That might be a licensing issue, not a steroids issue.
by long time listener on Aug 17, 2010 1:35 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Is Ardo ok? Why was he lifted in the 5th?
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by Chris McKeown on Aug 17, 2010 1:53 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Sore left calf. But no other tests are required and he should be ready to go within the next few days.
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Good
and is Verlander going up against CC tomorrow? That’ll be a good game if so
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by Chris McKeown on Aug 17, 2010 1:58 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Knowing our recent tendenices...I'd bench Verlander on any fantasy team lol
I should do that…
A supporter of the MFY.
Just found out it is in fact Sabathia vs Verlander
Well CC has not lost a game at home since last year (his run support is good, to say the least). So I suppose that’s a good omen.
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next." -George Michael Steinbrenner III
by Chris McKeown on Aug 17, 2010 2:01 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I feel like the Yankees right now would get shutout by a good high school pitcher
and also knock Cy Young out of the game in 1 inning.
A supporter of the MFY.
Agreed
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next." -George Michael Steinbrenner III
by Chris McKeown on Aug 17, 2010 2:04 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Alright gents
Let’s hope for a good result tomorrow.. I’m
out. goodnight
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next." -George Michael Steinbrenner III
by Chris McKeown on Aug 17, 2010 2:04 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
+1
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next." -George Michael Steinbrenner III
by Chris McKeown on Aug 17, 2010 2:07 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
This Skate 3 videogame is stupid...apparently my goal is to break my bones wtf
A supporter of the MFY.
verlander tommorrow looks better than tonight
assuming verlander didn’t get plastic surgery, a name change and enter the witness protection agency and came out as Dustin Vallanter and is making his “first” start vs the yankees
yankees
the million dollar babies cant hit what a bunch of candy asses. they git rid of the two guys that got things going for them the japanese boy and Damon. what a bunch of Loafers we got there now. time to get jeter out of the lead off hitter and give the job to grander son. they keep playing like this and we will be out.Joe g better get his finger out of his ass and start raising hell else he will be wearing # 28 for another year
Do you know anything about baseball?
Let’s try fixing your punctuation and grammar before you start bad mouthing other teams, then we’ll talk once you get home from your first day of 6th grade.. ok?
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next." -George Michael Steinbrenner III
by Chris McKeown on Aug 17, 2010 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I do remember that shot of Girardi
in the dugout and I’m sure he DID have his finger up his ass, if only temporarily.
This.
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next." -George Michael Steinbrenner III
by Chris McKeown on Aug 17, 2010 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions
One bad game
and Travis is throwing Jeet under the bus?
by HappyLuckyGoldenDragonNumber1! on Aug 17, 2010 8:37 AM EDT reply actions
one bad game?
have you watched the Yankees this season? and i hardly ‘threw him under the bus.’ i stated GGBG should be hitting leadoff instead. better OBP, better speed, more P/PA. those are pretty much the most important traits for a leadoff hitter.
I'm a Jeter fan ...
But there’s no such thing as a mandated lineup position. If the team is better with GGBG in the leadoff spot and move Jetes down to the #6 or #7 spot, then the team is better and it should be done.
One advantage to having GGBG hitting in front of Jeter, though – his stealing takes away from GIDP opportunities ;-)
That's true about the stealing
But he isn’t automatic (unfortunately). It’d be great to see Gardner adjust properly to the leadoff position in the lineup.
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next." -George Michael Steinbrenner III
by Chris McKeown on Aug 17, 2010 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions
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