Lee to Rangers
This deserves its own fanshot.
As George Costanza would say, Seattle did "a complete 360."
- Yanks upset with Seattle over apparently backing out of deal.
- This a great situation for the Yanks. Texas is in a similar position to Milwaukee two years ago. A good, not great team with a small chance to re-sign their ace. We could see Lee pitching to Montero in 2011.
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Seattle is DUMB
Trading Lee within the same division. How can the rest of the owners allow this trade with the Rangers for sale/bankrupt?
That said, The Yankees STILL win the WS, and pick up Lee in the offseason. And we keep Jesus as trade bait down the road.
Yeah but
There’s really nowhere for him on the Yankee roster, that’s been made perfectly clear by the decision to trade him (and to offer him during the offseason in another trade).
Sure there's room...
at Catcher. If Montero can catch at all, even at just Posada’s level, he’ll be our catcher for a long time. If he’s never able to be a main catcher, he can do what Victor Martinez does and play several positions like 1B, C, or a corner OF spot along with DH’ing. If he turns into a Miguel Cabrera type offensive player, they’ll find somewhere to put him…
Rangers are dumber
Trading Smoak+other prospects within division. Lee won’t be in the West after next year; Smoak will haunt the Ms for years.
by benderbrodriguez on Jul 9, 2010 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm happy
We keep Montero and we didn’t need to screw up the farm system to get a pitcher we don’t even need.
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by WhiteWinterHymnal on Jul 9, 2010 5:45 PM EDT reply actions
i love it, cashman you sly SOB
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6 players?
I thought it was 4…
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by Chris McKeown on Jul 9, 2010 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Talking with Nolan now
on MLBN, man there GM is young
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4 players + $$$
for Lee’s salary remainder of year.
His mother has a tattoo that reads, "Son".
Sharks have a week dedicated to HIM.
"It doesn't take more than one person, to talk to a woman.
Stay thirsty my friends."
And people say Cashman is a bad GM.
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by Gelatin on Jul 9, 2010 5:56 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Actually, I dont think I ever even read that once
people were pissed, but I dont think anyone said he was bad
Why?
I wasnt really pissed but I can see how others were. There would be no point in trading Montero
Montero isnt a god, he is 20 years old, you never know how he will turn out
Pitching wins titles and like I said earlier, if Montero becomes Mauer, Yanks will get him back anyway.
trading for half a season of Lee by giving up the entire career of someone who has a chance to be a Cabrera or Ramirez type hitter would be really stupid. Even if Montero misses he should still be a pretty good hitter, but the upside on him is extremely high.
Yanks had to be in the mix though
If the Rays had gotten Lee, it wouldve been a problem. I dont care either way but people being pissy over Cashman trying to improve the team by aquiring the games top lefty is stupid.
But why trade away a prospect who could be a difference maker when we can get Lee in the offseason anyway?
Because we have Hughes with an innings limit, Andy has been spectacular but he is still no spring chicken
And AJ has always been a mixed bag. Yanks had to try. If Texas beats the Yanks in the ALDS behind two strong Lee starts, Montero should get a few shout outs,lol.
Who said that?
I said it was a dumb move, which it was.
But now its looking pretty clear that Cashman just jacked up the price for whoever the other potential buyers were…
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by Gelatin on Jul 9, 2010 5:59 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I dont think he was just jacking up the price
It wasnt a bad trade for Yanks either. Keeping Lee away from potential playoff opponents is not that dumb. a 5 game series is scary enough, even scarier with a guy that owns you.
I know what you mean,
but I don’t think it would’ve been worth if for a rental, even if you think he’ll resign.
Either way, well get him next season.
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by Gelatin on Jul 9, 2010 6:05 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
We all better root against the Rangers like they are the Red Sox now
Dont want to see them in the playoffs
I don't mind the Rangers in the playoffs.
We have the pitching talent to compete with them. Cliff Lee doesn’t change me opinion on that.
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by Gelatin on Jul 9, 2010 6:08 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yanks struggle against lefties,Lee is a tough one
Sure we have the pitching, they have a nice team though.
The Yankees probably aren't pissed
This is all a smoke screen
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He's probably not surprised
Just gotta keep going out there and proving himself is all
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by Chris McKeown on Jul 9, 2010 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions
just go out there and be magnificent as a bastard can be
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Players in MLB
don’t get caught up in every rumor, or they would be sleepless in Seattle.
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He's gotta be relieved.
I have to say, I would’ve been sorry to see him go yet again. Now, if they let him walk in the offseason to make room for Lee, I won’t be too upset.
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by Jedi Master A-Rod on Jul 9, 2010 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions
And we dont face Lee tonight!!!!
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Reggie Jackson
I was waiting to see if we could start Lee against Seattle tonight
You know, after we traded them Javy for Russell Branyan’s bat on the bench…
by waw on Jul 9, 2010 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Guess Cash
won’t be sending Jack Z any Christmas cards any time soon, read link.
His mother has a tattoo that reads, "Son".
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this maybe?
4:47pm: The Yankees, not surprisingly, are livid with the Mariners, according to Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports (via Twitter). The Yanks thought they had a deal, but the Mariners told the Rangers they could have Lee if they included Smoak and there went the Yankees’ hopes of getting Lee.
Ms should have taken the Yanks deal
Montero is as good a spect as Smoak, and they wouldnt have had to add money in either. Rangers won this deal big time.
Liked Smoak more
according to Heyman reporting on MLBN, maybe cuz he’s more ML ready? Don’t know if I believe that but…
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He's played something like 70 games for Texas this year
though, he hasn’t exactly lit up the scoreboards
by waw on Jul 9, 2010 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Bingo
His mother has a tattoo that reads, "Son".
Sharks have a week dedicated to HIM.
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So we don't have to face Lee tonight?
I’m happy with this. I don’t think getting Lee for less than half a season was worth trading away our top prospect.
Nope don't have to face him tonight now
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by Chris McKeown on Jul 9, 2010 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Ms just released a statement
“As part of the Lee deal, the Rangers are going to allow Lee to make one more start for the M’s, but he will have to wear a Rangers uniform during the start”
lol I want to see that.
But not against us.
Yankees all day.
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It was sarcasm
Cant tell you how many have asked if he will still pitch tonight. We get Dave Pauley tonight instead.
Upset with Seattle
above
His mother has a tattoo that reads, "Son".
Sharks have a week dedicated to HIM.
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I'm ok with trading Montero if necessary, but right now it is completely not necessary
Montero is still a big unnown, he could be the next Mike Piazza/V-Mart/whomever, or he could be the next Matt Wieters
also, David Pauley is starting for the Mariners
Your right, he's still young
but imagine if he was a Yankee, he would have been crowned the biggest failure in a long time
by Monotonousblob on Jul 9, 2010 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Needs to pick it up big time
in 2nd half of the season, there is guy named Crawford available this offseason.
If he winds up with 15 HR’s, 50 RBI and .245 BA, he may be gone….Just saying
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Tex through July
A-Rod/Swish through previous postseasons, Jeter and Cano right now, Gardenr in the preseason, Joba for past 2 years
by Monotonousblob on Jul 9, 2010 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions
If he is right handed
good
His mother has a tattoo that reads, "Son".
Sharks have a week dedicated to HIM.
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Very glad Lee didn't come to NY.
Texas, like the fanpost mentions, is in the same situation Milwaukee was in a couple years ago when they got CC. This should help the Rangers, and I look forward to maybe seeing them in the playoffs.
Did you know Joe Morgan thinks Cano will win a batting title one day?
I want no part of that team in the playoffs
That team was already dangerous. Lee twice in a 5 game series is not a great thought.
If the season ended today, Yanks get the Tigers for the 5 gamer.
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by George E. Ays on Jul 9, 2010 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions
As the Phillies found out
Lee alone cannot win a playoff series.
Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.
Yeah he'll make a bigger difference in a 5 game series
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by Chris McKeown on Jul 9, 2010 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions
looking at the texas package
Gotta say the yanks I felt had a better package. Well this just means the yanks will pursue lee this fa
by lololol on Jul 9, 2010 6:24 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Nah the Rangers package was better
Plus Smoak is a playing major-leaguer who is ALREADY showing potential in the majors.
Did you know Joe Morgan thinks Cano will win a batting title one day?
Smoak hasnt been good and the others included arent great
Yanks spects were comparable. So it comes down to Montero or Smoak+2.5 Million, I think Yanks offer was better.
If they sign Lee then I really wont give a shit what the Yankees do anymore. It will take the fun out of competition & watching them play.
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by lololol on Jul 9, 2010 6:31 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Unless Andy gets hurt and has a dismal second half
I don’t see him retiring. He reinvented himself.
by HappyLuckyGoldenDragonNumber1! on Jul 9, 2010 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Well he said that three years was his max
Not to mention, he has younger children, as well. Maybe he does another year, but I don’t see him going on.
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Who would ever think Mussina would retire after winning 20?
You just never know, I think Andy is going to come back though. To put that 3 year statment out there, opens the door a bit more for me.
I'm still upset about Moose...
I hate when I get attached to players and they leave/retire and/or are traded when they finally “made” it. Just one more year Mike
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god, I miss Moose
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by noonoo on Jul 9, 2010 7:19 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Moose did what was right for him
I can’t ask for more than that and I appreciate the time and talent he gave us.
I just don't understand this thinking
If your team tries to sign a great pitcher, you won’t support them? Then, you want them to lose so that things are more interesting?
How about if other teams just try to get better to make things interesting?
I look at our starting pitching after this season, and I think we can definitely use Lee. And at 32, he’s not going to be dominant forever, but we need to start thinking about life after Andy Pettite, and replacing a lefty with a better lefty sounds like the kind of plan Cashman gets paid to make.
by waw on Jul 9, 2010 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions
At least no Lee tonight.
Maybe an order will come down tonight to run up the score if the front office is ticked with the Ms.
by upstateNYYFan1984 on Jul 9, 2010 6:31 PM EDT reply actions
Time to move on with trades to fill needs without trading top prospects.
It probably won’t take much to get Wigginton from Baltimore or some arms for the pen.
by upstateNYYFan1984 on Jul 9, 2010 6:32 PM EDT reply actions
Can we just trade Suzyn Waldman?
by HappyLuckyGoldenDragonNumber1! on Jul 9, 2010 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Apparently
she’s like a light fixture on the wall, Daily News Fifth should be interesting this evening though..Feinsand was off the mark, again. Not so “imminent”.
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I would take
An autographed picture of Vin Scully sent postage due straight up for her.
I am
Unless he starts sucking again and the to teh pen!
by HappyLuckyGoldenDragonNumber1! on Jul 9, 2010 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Anybody else as happy as I am that we keep Javy through all of this too?
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by Gelatin on Jul 9, 2010 6:56 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Thank Cervelli
I’m not sure there’s a better team for the Yankees Lee could’ve gone to this season. It seems to guarantee he’ll be a free agent this offseason. I really didn’t like the sound of the trade this morning.
On the other side, I suppose the whole financial mess could get sorted out before the fall, though, and I bet Nolan Ryan would jump at a chance to extend him. And if everything stays as it is, the Yankees are likely to see him in October.
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Best possible outcome
Texas has ownership issues which means they have money issues…. even if they want to extend Lee, they may not have the cash to do it. The Mets on the other hand or even the Rays would be a different matter.
Forget Texas
3 month rental, forget Rays, already stated 70 mill payroll next season, forget Mets. I guess that leaves one team still available…
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Yay! We keep Jesus and Javy!
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BOOM.
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by Chris McKeown on Jul 9, 2010 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I suppose people are tired of talking about LeBron
and I am too, but I do have one question as a non-basketball fan: do the Cavs have any chance to make the playoffs next year without him? I guess they have some money available now – can they go out and rebuild?
by long time listener on Jul 9, 2010 7:28 PM EDT reply actions
They have a very slim to no chance of making the playoffs next year
LeBron was there team everyone else pretty much sucked
can they get someone via free agency?
by long time listener on Jul 9, 2010 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions
They were connected to a Jonny Flynn trade yesterday
Doubt that’s gonna happen now. He’s repped by LeBron’s agent so I can’t see him in Cleveland without him
by Jedi Master A-Rod on Jul 9, 2010 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions
they have a chance
I guaranatee you they won’t be one of the better teams in the league and they won’t be at the top of the conference, but I wouldn’t give up on them so fast. Half the league in basketball makes the playoffs. They still are in it for a 7-8 seed, possibly. If I had to bet, I’d say they wouldn’t make it. But it’s not like these guys are the Warriors, Clippers, or Nets of the league now that LeBron is gone.
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that's good
I can’t bring myself to “hate” LeBron – everyone has the right to control their own situation, and the time to be “loyal” to a team is when you’re under contract, not when you’re a free agent. But the way he left was pretty ugly, and it’s clear from the fan reaction that he broke their hearts in Cleveland. So it’d be nice if they could grab a No. 1 or 2 seed and knock out the Heat in the first round.
by long time listener on Jul 9, 2010 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions
The way he left was both ugly and pretty classless
It was a complete slap in their face going on national television and announcing he is leaving
yeah
If, God forbid, Jeter or Rivera decided to leave after this year, and they announced the decision that way it would be pretty bad. Then imagine if the Yankees had never won a WS, and no NY teams had ever won a championship, and I could see that being a kick right in the dangly bits.
by long time listener on Jul 9, 2010 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Who?
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by Chris McKeown on Jul 9, 2010 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions
ohhhh!!!!
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by Chris McKeown on Jul 9, 2010 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions
For those interested (not me)...
watch the South Florida trio get introduced tonight on…..ESPN.
Would be nice to give it a rest on GT, just a thought.
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It's actually the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen
They’re throwing a party because Bosh and Lebron came… did we throw a huge city bash for CC, A.J. and Tex last year? Grow up you douchebags in Miami
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by Chris McKeown on Jul 9, 2010 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Can you imagine the media backlash if we did?
"He wasn't an astronaut, he was a tv comedian! And he was just using space travel as a metaphor for beating his wife!"
Yeah really lol
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by Chris McKeown on Jul 10, 2010 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions
god
I want to not hate LeBron and Miami (for the reasons stated above), but show a little restraint. You haven’t even won anything! I’d chide ESPN for their loss of integrity, but after last night, they have none left anyway (and didn’t have much before last night).
by long time listener on Jul 9, 2010 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
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by Chris McKeown on Jul 9, 2010 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I read
by accident ( was actually reading about the Lee deal) and just happened to see it.
Lebruuuun’s “handlers” set it up whereby they paid Jim Gray (met him a few years back what a friggin dork) to interview him on the family of networks.
His mother has a tattoo that reads, "Son".
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I saw that too
Gray denied it, saying that he “did not take one penny from LeBron James.” Then he said that ESPN paid his travelling expenses and that he got a stipend. Um, so you did make money off it then, didn’t you? Unless the stipend came in the form of coupons for free hugs or something.
by long time listener on Jul 9, 2010 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions
That
guy has been with so many networks, wonder why? Met him and Jay ?, drawing
a blank here, the guy on FOX sundays during the NFL season, Jay was cool,
since we are both originally from NY, rapping about the Yanks and Giants.
His mother has a tattoo that reads, "Son".
Sharks have a week dedicated to HIM.
"It doesn't take more than one person, to talk to a woman.
Stay thirsty my friends."
Bingo!
cool guy!
His mother has a tattoo that reads, "Son".
Sharks have a week dedicated to HIM.
"It doesn't take more than one person, to talk to a woman.
Stay thirsty my friends."
WOW
BlowSox laying the wood to those birds up north, 12-0, think Lester can
hold on?
His mother has a tattoo that reads, "Son".
Sharks have a week dedicated to HIM.
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Stay thirsty my friends."
Cito
you can pull him now, lol!
His mother has a tattoo that reads, "Son".
Sharks have a week dedicated to HIM.
"It doesn't take more than one person, to talk to a woman.
Stay thirsty my friends."
Remember when Gray was harassing Pete Rose in the '99 WS?
And Chad Curtis stood him up later?
Did you know Joe Morgan thinks Cano will win a batting title one day?
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