Jesus Montero For Cliff Lee About To Happen?
by Ed Valentine on Jul 9, 2010 7:56 AM EDT
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Joel Sherman of the New York Post says a Cliff Lee for Jesus Montero trade is nearly done. I am a little surprised if it is true that the Yankees are willing to move Montero. Are you? Vote in the poll and give us your thoughts on whether you would do this deal.
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If this is true it's
It’s beyond dumb
"He needs to pitch in a higher league, if there is one. Ban him from baseball. He should be illegal."
—Tom Kelly, manager of Minnesota Twins, after his team faced Rivera
+1 your signature Bradshaw
"If you're a Yankee fan, or if you're not a Yankee fan - you have to admit, we're winners." -Paul O'Neill
by Chris McKeown on Jul 9, 2010 8:10 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree with you
If Pettitte retires or Vazquez leaves.. let’s bring in Lee for JUST MONEY! It’s idiotic that they give up prospects for a guy they can wait for. They must really be scared to face him in the postseason
"If you're a Yankee fan, or if you're not a Yankee fan - you have to admit, we're winners." -Paul O'Neill
by Chris McKeown on Jul 9, 2010 8:14 AM EDT up reply actions
LOL +10
How great was it when the Cavs owner ripped him?
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by Chris McKeown on Jul 9, 2010 8:17 AM EDT up reply actions
he's an idiot like you
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by Nintendo vs Sega on Jul 9, 2010 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
WELL...
I would probably trade Montero for Lee.. however I don’t see a need for Lee AT ALL. This is overkill.
"If you're a Yankee fan, or if you're not a Yankee fan - you have to admit, we're winners." -Paul O'Neill
I'm trying to talk myself into this
Yesterday, I was firmly in the “stand pat except for a bench bat” camp. Today, the realization of Cliff Lee and his 5 BB is starting to grow on me.
Link below for those interested in the NY Post article
http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/yankees/yankees_on_brink_of_landing_cliff_b7oJw63k0cUXVdd02uuU1I
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Yeah my bad I didn't even see it
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by Chris McKeown on Jul 9, 2010 8:40 AM EDT up reply actions
I was just thinking about it..
If the Yankees have Sabathia – Lee as a 1-2 punch… Cleveland will be facepalming just as much as they did last night when they failed to obtain Lebron.
"If you're a Yankee fan, or if you're not a Yankee fan - you have to admit, we're winners." -Paul O'Neill
the thing is i think its MORE than just Montero
i doubt Mariners would do a straight one for one, they are look for ###s of prospects….
i was very disapointed when i read the article, Montero has been THE yankee prospect for so long, would just kill us to give up him and Jackson in the span of a year for essentially a spare piece… i assume we would move Hughes to the pen FURTHER setting him back…
I agree if hes available in the offense get him then, save Montero!!!
They want three guys (Montero being one of them)
"If you're a Yankee fan, or if you're not a Yankee fan - you have to admit, we're winners." -Paul O'Neill
by Chris McKeown on Jul 9, 2010 8:27 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't think Cashman will trade unless Lee agrees to an extension
He’s a better GM than just trading promising players for a rental player
"If you're a Yankee fan, or if you're not a Yankee fan - you have to admit, we're winners." -Paul O'Neill
by Chris McKeown on Jul 9, 2010 8:30 AM EDT up reply actions
how about
Burnett and his contract? Makes room in the rotation and frees up money (lol) to give to Lee.
"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Jul 9, 2010 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions
what i want to know is why there are so many votes for YES to this trade
are people unaware of our current needs right now and for the future?
of course not....
people still think Vazquez sucks. Watching the games is not a part of being a Yanks fan..apparently.
Bye, Lee :(
I was completely adamant the Yanks shouldn't go after Lee..
But look at this logically. With CC and Lee as your 1-2, then AJ and Andy going, how good would that be? The Yanks are known to go out and win NOW, not tomorrow. We have plenty of catching prospects. And Montero is not hitting the cover off the ball. .253 with 6 homers is not that great—In TRIPLE A ball, none-the-less. Who were the two aces in the World Series last year? CC and Lee, if they were together, they’d be next to unbeatable.
And I watch almost every Yankee game. Pitching wins World Series. And that’s the most important thing of all.
Let's cut through the crap, Vaughn. I only got one thing to say to you: "Strike this mother f*cker out."
No..
AAA is for players that are not good enough to be pros. AA is for players that are typically a step away from the majors. Hence Cervelli going from AA to Majors. And he’s hitting, what? .280?
Let's cut through the crap, Vaughn. I only got one thing to say to you: "Strike this mother f*cker out."
no.
Cervelli was older.
And Cervelli is an example of a player playing out of his level.
Bye, Lee :(
He was playing out of his level..
When he was hitting .400. Not .280.
He could solidify at .280 and be set. No one though Gardner could hit .308, but he’s doing it.
Plus Cervelli is a better catcher than Montero.
Let's cut through the crap, Vaughn. I only got one thing to say to you: "Strike this mother f*cker out."
Both of them show that minor league stats don't have to translate to MLB
Montero has 100x the talent at hitting then those 2.
Bye, Lee :(
Agreed...
That happens a lot. But you have a proven ACE that will be your number 2 guy if you get him, now! Who knows what Montero will give you?
I’ve been high on Montero (sounds like a drug) for a long time, too. But you get this opportunity to have 2 aces how often?
Let's cut through the crap, Vaughn. I only got one thing to say to you: "Strike this mother f*cker out."
again
what is wrong with our current pitching staff right now?
Why would you want to do that to Hughes… AGAIN?
They'll trade Vazquez
if Lee comes to New York. They won’t move Hughes back to the bullpen.. I hope at least
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by Chris McKeown on Jul 9, 2010 8:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Nothing is..
But I trust Lee more than AJ or Javy. And I like both those guys.
Hughes stays in the rotation. Javy will probably go in the trade. And although he’s turned it around so much, Lee is better—and younger.
Let's cut through the crap, Vaughn. I only got one thing to say to you: "Strike this mother f*cker out."
It does sound like a drug
"If you're a Yankee fan, or if you're not a Yankee fan - you have to admit, we're winners." -Paul O'Neill
by Chris McKeown on Jul 9, 2010 8:51 AM EDT up reply actions
that is completely not the point.
Montero + the other 2 prospects + Lee >>>>>>>> Lee alone.
Patience. Keep it in the pants.
I’d rather trade Montero for a player the Yanks ACTUALLY NEED, then give him away for a player they don’t, and can get a few months down the road.
Win WS. Keep Montero (and others). Get Lee. Win more WS with Lee and Montero and others.
Dumb to get Lee. DUMB DUMB DUMB DUMB DUMB.
Bye, Lee :(
What if we don't win the WS this year?
Without Lee? And then not get Lee during the off season?
Listen, I’ve been saying the exact same things you’ve been saying for a Long time. Maybe the real possibility of getting him now might have me amped up too much. I’d love to see him in pinstripes. We’ll see what happens. Back to work, for real, this time!
Let's cut through the crap, Vaughn. I only got one thing to say to you: "Strike this mother f*cker out."
what if we win the world series
without Lee? and then get him in the offseason along with crawford and get to keep prospects
and we still ended up with some hardware
aparently you dont need to go 11-0 in the postseason to win a WS…. lol
we still won
"I'm looking at 600 as first base. I want to run right through it and use it as a platform and a spring board for more to come"- Alex Rodriguez
that's all fine with me.
I’d rather lose without em, then win with em.
Cuz I ain’t rooting for the Yanks to win if they get em. Cuz they’re scared posing frontrunners if they get em.
Bye, Lee :(
Exactly
This isn’t about getting Lee vs Montero. It’s about less than 1/2 season of Lee vs 7 seasons each of Montero and 2 other prospects.
Yeah Lee would change things and be a big push towards another ring, but Montero will provide tens of millions of dollars more surplus value beyond what Lee would give the team.
The only thing I can think of
Is the brass has decided Montero is not going to be a catcher for us and cannot seem him fitting in any other defense positions and no need for DH
by HappyLuckyGoldenDragonNumber1! on Jul 9, 2010 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions
this is what I wondered
If he is going to be ready in a year or two does he end up blocked at 1B anyway? Obviously he could still be a DH but if he’s not a catcher he’s not as valuable.
"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Jul 9, 2010 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions
They watch it tivoed
and skip the other teams at bats.
Vasquez DUZ suck
and every exhibit offered to say he doesn’t can be easily countered by one that sez he does. That’s why he is exactly what that means — a 50/50 proposition.
You watched the last month and a half. i watched the first month and a half — with the added spice of watching him pitch to Damon in ’04.
U may be right — (and as a Yankee fan i hope you are) – but don’t make it sound like observations to the contrary are illogical.
Blind faith is illogical.
Vazquez sucked for one month
and has been good for a string of starts over twice as long.
Blind…would be saying he sucks at this point.
Wow.
Bye, Lee :(
by FreeBradshaw on Jul 10, 2010 7:13 AM EDT up reply actions
I understand, FREE
But in the words of Bill Parcells, “You are what your record sez you are.”
That’s my point. 7-7. In other words 50/50.
One thing is certain. he’s not Cliff Lee.
yea..."good point"
cuz when a pitcher pitches like Vazquez did last night…his record REALLY LETS YOU KNOW WHO HE IS….
7-7 doesn’t give you 90% of the story.
Bye, Lee :(
by FreeBradshaw on Jul 11, 2010 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Ditto
Clearly it’s people who don’t think beyond the next four months
"I am a man of great mental power." ~Alfonso Soriano
to add to that
We have FIFTY FOUR wins (the number 54 doesnt do it justice) and all our regulars STILL havent clicked yet.
I dont see any holes in our SP
How many of those wins have come via starting pitching?
Hmmm… 46.
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by Chris McKeown on Jul 9, 2010 8:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Lee has 5 CG this year (including one vs Yanks)
If the other guys don’t score and your pitcher goes 9inn, then you don’t need a bat off the bench or a reliever.
Lee would be moving to the AL East
and CG arent what they used to be…. you pitch him 250 innings in the regular season he wont be able to pitch in the postseason
exactly
how long you gonna play with fire?
Hes not CC, he has back issues
I mean hes a good pitcher im just saying the price aint right
Good Point
CC is special with innings thrown Lee has been worked a lot, not worth the prospect
Since the face been revealed the game got real
I got stuff in my garage
worth more than most prospects. You are delusional not to get a Cliff Lee for a “prospect”.
Ridiculous.
Especially when he goes to a likely playoff opponent and has owned us.
Don't forget the first game in Yankee Stadium
"If you're a Yankee fan, or if you're not a Yankee fan - you have to admit, we're winners." -Paul O'Neill
by Chris McKeown on Jul 9, 2010 8:47 AM EDT up reply actions
you seriously think the Yanks need a starting pitcher?
The Yanks starting 5 is SO BAD, we need the best starter in baseball?
Bye, Lee :(
Lee fills a need
One of the best set-up man available in the bigs is Phil Hughes, and getting Lee away from our hitters should really help in any PS series.
I’m not a big fan of babying young starters, but Hughes looks like he hit some sort of wall. He had 7 0r more K’s in 6 of his first 10 starts, not once in the last 6 while his ERA ballooned from 2.54 to 3.83.
Agree no deal without extension so the Yanks get the starter they need for next season.
by steelerwheeler on Jul 9, 2010 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Apparently
It mean he has to go to the Bullpen, and we have to sign Cliff Lee. The Logic here amazing.
"He needs to pitch in a higher league, if there is one. Ban him from baseball. He should be illegal."
—Tom Kelly, manager of Minnesota Twins, after his team faced Rivera
by DarthRichter on Jul 9, 2010 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions
This is what i can't stand about some Yankee fans
What you need the best player at every position We have the best record in baseball and at no point in the season has every part of the Yankee machine been working in harmony, but you need more the best record is not enough ??? buy low sell high not the reverse
Since the face been revealed the game got real
Ask Seattle about "Best Record"
It means nothing. WS Championships mean everything. Lee gets you a whole lot closer to that than the “Wonderment of AJ and Javy” while also hoping Hughes (deer in headlights last post-season) has really matured and Andy hasn’t yet aged by October.
I can’t believe this is even in play here. Lee is one of the best pitchers in baseball.
Montero is a lackluster catcher but a nice hitter, Hitting is never a problem with the Yanks. Make the move and beat out the Rays in the East.
by Ghost Face Killer on Jul 9, 2010 8:35 AM EDT reply actions
There is also the
idea that the Yankees are trying to drive up the price for anyone else interested in Lee. AKA the Mets
"I don't want one of those guys who'll drive in two but let in three every game." Casey Stengel
by tnredneckyankeesfan on Jul 9, 2010 8:36 AM EDT reply actions
i would be happy to see Lee go back to the NL
I just think Montero will be of more value to us (along with the other 2 prospect not named) over the next 5 years than Lee will be if we could even get him for 5 years.
Also looking at his career stats, Lee actually doesnt have a long history of impressiveness. Yes you would be hard pressed to find a better pitcher since his stint back in the minors after ’07, but he also has some injury history, hes 31, hes made it known he wants to try the FA market, and i like our chances with who we have now.
LOL
"If you're a Yankee fan, or if you're not a Yankee fan - you have to admit, we're winners." -Paul O'Neill
by Chris McKeown on Jul 9, 2010 8:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Just kidding...
AJ and Javy will carry the Yankees to WS #28. Then Montero will carry the Yanks to WS #29.
Sounds good! You can never have too much starting pitching; we’re lucky the starters haven’t had any injuries. They give up Montero, who isn’t great defensively and won’t play first with Texeria. They have very good catching prospects. They won’t have to give up draft choices to get him as a free agent. I just hope they sign him to a long term deal. They win the WS!
+1
Let's cut through the crap, Vaughn. I only got one thing to say to you: "Strike this mother f*cker out."
lol
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by Chris McKeown on Jul 9, 2010 8:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Why are there so many votes? Do people follow PSA and just never post comments?
I thought there was maybe 50 people max that comment here semi-regularly or daily
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The wagon is out early today, damn!
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by Chris McKeown on Jul 9, 2010 8:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Lurkers
"I don't want one of those guys who'll drive in two but let in three every game." Casey Stengel
by tnredneckyankeesfan on Jul 9, 2010 8:48 AM EDT up reply actions
I only post for the following reasons:
1. Have something I think is clever but is really only stupid to share.
2. Bored at work.
3. Annoyed by comments from lesser minds.
4. Feel the need to correct grammar errors.
5. Express love for Brett Gardner or Bobby Murcer.
Otherwise I don’t bother.
by designatedquitter on Jul 9, 2010 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Classic!
- hits home for me…I usualy lyke too here miself tawk butt righting it and re-reeding it is evan bedder!
by steelerwheeler on Jul 9, 2010 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions
??
I actually wrote #2 hits home but somehow the computer thought I meant 1.
by steelerwheeler on Jul 9, 2010 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Well I have to go back to work..
Before someone catches me on PSA!!!
As much as I’ve said “Stay away From Lee.” I say “Get Him” now!
Let's cut through the crap, Vaughn. I only got one thing to say to you: "Strike this mother f*cker out."
Ugh..
What no one has mentioned is the fact that the Rays, Red Sox, Twins or Rangers would NOT get Lee and eliminate the possibility of exiting the playoffs early because they would have to face Lee twice. I think it’s a great signing and of course they will sign him again next year. Who wants to bet that AJ is going to be good in the playoffs or that 38 year old Pettitte won’t have some injury. That topped with Hughes’ innings limit and it does not sound so crazy to sign Lee. I am amazed that no one sees this as a good thing.
who cares?
I hate the idea of gettign him just cuz someone else will get him. The Yanks are better then no matter WHO has Lee.
Lebron be scared to win.
Bye, Lee :(
Lebron is scured of New Yooooork
"If you're a Yankee fan, or if you're not a Yankee fan - you have to admit, we're winners." -Paul O'Neill
by Chris McKeown on Jul 9, 2010 8:57 AM EDT up reply actions
So if the Yankees play the twins and lost because Lee beat them twice, you will be fine with that or if they lose in the ALCS because they faced Lee 3 times, that’s cool because we didn’t need him.
if that happens, yea..I'm good with it.
cuz we didn’t cop out.
Lee is a Lebron-a-cop out.
Bye, Lee :(
cuz we have one of the best, if not THE best rotations on baseball
and one of the best, if not THE best lineups in baseball.
We’re the best team in the league. We don’t need anything but some spare parts.
We get Lee, we’re admitting defeat. There’s no need. You don’t trade prospects for something that’s not a need.
Bye, Lee :(
Admitting defeat?
By strengthening our pitching?
"He wasn't an astronaut, he was a tv comedian! And he was just using space travel as a metaphor for beating his wife!"
admitting that we can't win a chip
without the best pitcher in baseball..or that we can’t beat CLiff Lee..yea, that’s admitting defeat. Flat out.
Bye, Lee :(
by FreeBradshaw on Jul 9, 2010 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Adding another gun to a fort
is admitting defeat?
YES we can win without Lee. Proven.
YES we can beat Cliff Lee. Proven.
But our odds dramatically increase if we get him — and what is also proven is that he beats us alot more than we beat him. Especially lately and in the post-season.
That’s not “admitting defeat” — that’s “being smart”.
While we are working on getting a SP "just because hes an ace"
Could we work on a trade to get Longorio “because hes a great 3B”
Also lets try to trade for Crawford now “because hes the best LF”
I think we also need to trade for Dan Haren because he can K a lot, could be a good setup man
Somewhere in there we also can probably fit Lance Berkman and Roy Oswalt
You're forgetting Pujols, Griff...
"If you're a Yankee fan, or if you're not a Yankee fan - you have to admit, we're winners." -Paul O'Neill
by Chris McKeown on Jul 9, 2010 8:55 AM EDT up reply actions
oh my bad
Tex has been sucking balls anyway, def need to get Pujols
and then the world will be ours, forget #28, that will get us 28, 29 ,30, 31, 32, ……
How about Huffman and a PBTNL for Prince Fielder?
"If you're a Yankee fan, or if you're not a Yankee fan - you have to admit, we're winners." -Paul O'Neill
by Chris McKeown on Jul 9, 2010 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Did Pujols re-sign yet?
If he’s a FA to be, Yanks could get him cheap, maybe Jaba and Scranton Yankees for Albert?
by steelerwheeler on Jul 9, 2010 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions
PTBNL**
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by Chris McKeown on Jul 9, 2010 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions
another good one Free
i also forgot about Hanley Ramirez
Jeter has sucked balls too… need a new SS ASAP! lolz!!!!!
Love the drama
Now think. Pitching wins games. All your dream moves don’t substantially upgrade each Yankee position nor would it have the direct impact adding a pitcher of Lee’s caliber would to our starting rotation .
No no no hell no
We need bullpen help, not a rental for half a year that costs three solid prospects.
What about Rivera for Trevor Hoffman?
Hoffman has more saves all-time.. so he’s obviously better, right?!?
"If you're a Yankee fan, or if you're not a Yankee fan - you have to admit, we're winners." -Paul O'Neill
by Chris McKeown on Jul 9, 2010 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions
lol I can't even do this anymore
"If you're a Yankee fan, or if you're not a Yankee fan - you have to admit, we're winners." -Paul O'Neill
by Chris McKeown on Jul 9, 2010 9:01 AM EDT up reply actions
A Good Year
I just want to say that we are all spoil! This is the same thing that we all did last year. We are forced to complain about getting a future HOFer. It was the same when we wanted to get AJ and Javy. Keep it in your pants til the boys make it back to the ship!
This sucks.
Why mess with what works? Really. Even the Javy haters have said Javy has turned it around. WE DON’T NEED LEE!!!!
by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jul 9, 2010 9:02 AM EDT reply actions
Amen
"If you're a Yankee fan, or if you're not a Yankee fan - you have to admit, we're winners." -Paul O'Neill
by Chris McKeown on Jul 9, 2010 9:03 AM EDT up reply actions
We can sure as hell get 28 without Cliff Lee.
I seem to remember not needing his help with 27.
by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jul 9, 2010 9:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Because if we had Lee we could win the division with 130 wins instead of 100 wins
and then the forces of Lee and CC could combine to make an uber lefty who throws 120mph with an unsatiable hunger
the 3 man seemed to work last year
Also im pretty sure Javy would be capable of pitching this postseason
BRING BACK JOLLY OLD SAINT NICK JOHNSON
"If you're a Yankee fan, or if you're not a Yankee fan - you have to admit, we're winners." -Paul O'Neill
You think Seattle will take him for Lee?
Maybe he can DH or something.
by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jul 9, 2010 9:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Amen brotha
His Pavano-like ’stache is amazing
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by Chris McKeown on Jul 9, 2010 9:06 AM EDT up reply actions
I would just like to say that I've been a Miami Heat fan FOREVER AND EVER!!!!
SOOO excited for Lebron and Wade and Bosh!!!!
"If you're a Yankee fan, or if you're not a Yankee fan - you have to admit, we're winners." -Paul O'Neill
Maybe we could trade for them
because it sounds like the 3 of them together creates a superpower never seen before… im sure we could find a spot for them
Such a joke the NBA is
Lebron is a biaaatch
"If you're a Yankee fan, or if you're not a Yankee fan - you have to admit, we're winners." -Paul O'Neill
by Chris McKeown on Jul 9, 2010 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions
I hope they
have 2 basketballs in South Florida, also think the Cavs owner needs to look up the definition
of “narcissistic”.
His mother has a tattoo that reads, "Son".
Sharks have a week dedicated to HIM.
"It doesn't take more than one person, to talk to a woman.
Stay thirsty my friends."
If you trade Montero now when you don't need to, you can't trade him later when you might need to
Elite prospects are valuable commodities. Trading Montero for Lee right now is impulse shopping at its worst.
"I am a man of great mental power." ~Alfonso Soriano
another +10000000000000
im not saying i am 100% against trading Montero
I just think this is not worth losing our top prospect
We need to convince teams that Montero can play every position
so that we can trade him for like 5 all stars at once
No thanks
Hanley can keep his punk ass in Miami with Lebron
by HappyLuckyGoldenDragonNumber1! on Jul 9, 2010 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions
just an example
coulda threw Tulowitzki in there.
Bye, Lee :(
by FreeBradshaw on Jul 9, 2010 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions
I need to stop checking my email, because it's getting depressing at this point.
“Yankees, Red Sox, Rays interested in Werth” WHERE THE HELL WOULD HE PLAY???? Let’s kick Gardner to the curb, his grittiness isn’t batting .314 or anything. Or Swisher. All Star, Schmall Star.
by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jul 9, 2010 9:08 AM EDT reply actions
How do you figure?
"If you're a Yankee fan, or if you're not a Yankee fan - you have to admit, we're winners." -Paul O'Neill
by Chris McKeown on Jul 9, 2010 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Exactly what I said
Who are they moving?? Gardner is blossoming into a star.. Nick Swisher IS an All Star and Granderson is WAY too early to give up on.
"If you're a Yankee fan, or if you're not a Yankee fan - you have to admit, we're winners." -Paul O'Neill
by Chris McKeown on Jul 9, 2010 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Apparently I've got baseball all wrong, because I thought having the best record meant you were doing alright.
Silly, silly me. Maybe we can just fly both All Star teams back to the Bronx with us after the ASG.
by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jul 9, 2010 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions
+1
"If you're a Yankee fan, or if you're not a Yankee fan - you have to admit, we're winners." -Paul O'Neill
by Chris McKeown on Jul 9, 2010 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions
We sound like the fat rich kid who is never happen with what he has
and just wants what everyone else has because they have it, even though what he has is better
ATTENTION EVERYONE: I HAVE A QUESTION
How do I leave an SB Nation blog like HH or OTM ?
"If you're a Yankee fan, or if you're not a Yankee fan - you have to admit, we're winners." -Paul O'Neill
Is there a way I can remove it though? Or would I have to get banned?
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by Chris McKeown on Jul 9, 2010 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions
I was told once
that if you have ever commented on the blog you can’t leave. If you’ve never commented there’s a “leave blog” button on your settings page.
"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Jul 9, 2010 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Not HH
"If you're a Yankee fan, or if you're not a Yankee fan - you have to admit, we're winners." -Paul O'Neill
by Chris McKeown on Jul 9, 2010 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions
i dont even think HH people like talking to HH people
not a great run blog over there thats for sure
lol +1
"If you're a Yankee fan, or if you're not a Yankee fan - you have to admit, we're winners." -Paul O'Neill
by Chris McKeown on Jul 9, 2010 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions
63% Yes.... really guys???
I mean i didnt expect everyone to be against the trade…
but 63% of almost 400 votes would give up Montero that easily?
It's Cause
MONTERO is hitting 253 in AAA he’ll never be a star……In other words what WhatwouldJeterdo said Wagoners
"He needs to pitch in a higher league, if there is one. Ban him from baseball. He should be illegal."
—Tom Kelly, manager of Minnesota Twins, after his team faced Rivera
It's the people who said we'd never win a game with Damon and Matsui gone.
The ones who think every position and the bench needs to be an All Star or it’s a disappointing season. And if you aren’t in first in May, you might as well be in last. Frustrating doesn’t cover it.
by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jul 9, 2010 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Enough said
Johnny Damon: .271 / .362 / .412 5 HR, 24 RBIs, 52 Runs, 7 SB
Brett Gardner: .308 / .390 / .417 5 HR, 29 RBis, 54 Runs, 25 S
Numbers mean nothing
To wagoners, Johnny would hit 400 homers if he was here
"He needs to pitch in a higher league, if there is one. Ban him from baseball. He should be illegal."
—Tom Kelly, manager of Minnesota Twins, after his team faced Rivera
Gardners throw last night to take out one of the fastest players in MLB
Damon couldnt throw out Giambi heading to third even if he walked backwards
Damon throws with his left arm the way I throw with my left arm
Except I’m right-handed, he’s not
"I am a man of great mental power." ~Alfonso Soriano
+1
"If you're a Yankee fan, or if you're not a Yankee fan - you have to admit, we're winners." -Paul O'Neill
by Chris McKeown on Jul 9, 2010 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Think about it
Nearly 400 voters.. who the HELL is voting?!?!?
"If you're a Yankee fan, or if you're not a Yankee fan - you have to admit, we're winners." -Paul O'Neill
by Chris McKeown on Jul 9, 2010 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Lebron?
"He needs to pitch in a higher league, if there is one. Ban him from baseball. He should be illegal."
—Tom Kelly, manager of Minnesota Twins, after his team faced Rivera
A lot of people here lurk but don't post.
by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jul 9, 2010 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions
A tad strange
If they’re Yankee fans they should be talking about why they want Lee!!
"If you're a Yankee fan, or if you're not a Yankee fan - you have to admit, we're winners." -Paul O'Neill
by Chris McKeown on Jul 9, 2010 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions
or post very rarely
I was in NYC a couple weeks ago and got to watch the Varsity-JV games against the Athletics this week, so I have seen enough lately to participate.
"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Jul 9, 2010 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Good thing they werent around in the early 90s
we might have traded away Mo and Jeter for some shiny pieces
The Steinbrenner School of Prospect Management
bad things
"I am a man of great mental power." ~Alfonso Soriano
yup.
I bit the bullet on the AJAX thing…..at least that made sense cuz they could use an upgrade at CF.
They don’t need an upgrade at pitching. They could still win the division with Sergio Mitre as the 5th starter if Hughes needs to be shut down.
I just hope that somehow, be it injury, suck..whatever..don’t care, that if they get Lee..they lose.
Then Lee leaves at the end of the season too. That would really stick it right in their cornhole.
Bye, Lee :(
Im not an instant gratification person
I can honestly say it wouldnt kill me to go another few years without a WS if it meant we developed another dynasty
me neither..
tho I don’t think its gotta go to that.
Lee can, and most likely will..be here next year. The Yanks can win this year. Plain and simple.
Bye, Lee :(
NO WE NEED TO WIN
NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOWNOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOWNOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOWNOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOWNOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOWNOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOWNOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOWNOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOWNOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOWNOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOWNOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOWNOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOWNOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOWNOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOWNOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOWNOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW
"If you're a Yankee fan, or if you're not a Yankee fan - you have to admit, we're winners." -Paul O'Neill
by Chris McKeown on Jul 9, 2010 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions
If they get Lee will you protest by leaving PSA for the season?
Put your money where your mouth is
by HappyLuckyGoldenDragonNumber1! on Jul 9, 2010 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions
won’t leave.
Will root for destruction.
Bye, Lee :(
by FreeBradshaw on Jul 9, 2010 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Come on Bradshaw
From one douchey guy to another even that is super douchey
by HappyLuckyGoldenDragonNumber1! on Jul 9, 2010 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Relax, people
This is the New York Post. Wellspring of bullshit trade rumors. I don’t buy this for a second.
i hope its just to drive up the price
that would give Cashman brownie points to deplete someone elses farm
Let's be honest
The Yankees could trade Montero and sign him as a FA in 5 years lol
"If you're a Yankee fan, or if you're not a Yankee fan - you have to admit, we're winners." -Paul O'Neill
Buster Olney reporting that an agreement is NOT in place
http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/news/story?id=5366254
"If you're a Yankee fan, or if you're not a Yankee fan - you have to admit, we're winners." -Paul O'Neill
Wait. What do we have here....
And the Yankees’ rotation is good enough to win without Lee.
YOU DON’T SAY.
by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jul 9, 2010 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions
Common Sense
Isn’t all that Common
"He needs to pitch in a higher league, if there is one. Ban him from baseball. He should be illegal."
—Tom Kelly, manager of Minnesota Twins, after his team faced Rivera
WHAT?!?! IMPOSSIBLE.
"If you're a Yankee fan, or if you're not a Yankee fan - you have to admit, we're winners." -Paul O'Neill
by Chris McKeown on Jul 9, 2010 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions
you mean our package is already big enough?
we can get the prize without Lee Enzyte?
Bye, Lee :(
by FreeBradshaw on Jul 9, 2010 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Oh yeah, our package is DEFINITELY big enough
"If you're a Yankee fan, or if you're not a Yankee fan - you have to admit, we're winners." -Paul O'Neill
by Chris McKeown on Jul 9, 2010 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Lee has to be signing an extension
Otherwise that move makes absolutely no sense. At all. But if he signs an extension, who knows.
I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious.
Vince Lombardi
i dont get this
they didn’t get desperate for Santana, and that worked out for the best. why give up our best hitting prospect for a 2.5 month rental? Cashman specifically said he didn’t like paying twice for one player.
also, who leaves the rotation? do they trade Javy?
agreed...
tho to be fair I guess…the deal ain’t done, yet.
Really hope Cash sticks to his past word.
Bye, Lee :(
Craig Carton quote on Lebron's announcement coming from Greenwich, CT
“It’s pretty much an embarrassment.. it sorta makes him a douche…”
lol I love talkshow radio
"If you're a Yankee fan, or if you're not a Yankee fan - you have to admit, we're winners." -Paul O'Neill
Seriously
no one cares about Lebron anymore, go somewhere else to talk about it, there’s other big news happening that involves the yankees.
...
Chill out .. I happened to hear it on the radio and thought it was funny
"If you're a Yankee fan, or if you're not a Yankee fan - you have to admit, we're winners." -Paul O'Neill
by Chris McKeown on Jul 9, 2010 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions
lol
People need to sit back and relax!
"If you're a Yankee fan, or if you're not a Yankee fan - you have to admit, we're winners." -Paul O'Neill
by Chris McKeown on Jul 9, 2010 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions
I only say yes if
Lee signs an extension, we don’t give up any top prospects besides montero(romine, heathcott should stay put), and if we can flip Javy to someone to at least get a little of what we gave up, maybe include him in a deal that brings us a little depth on the bench as well as a B-level prospect, the way he’s pitching i think he could get it.
Yanks are the Yanks
With or without Lee the Yankees are in first place and will some luck, we will be better the 2nd half. Jeter will pick it up, Javy and AJ will actually pitch consistantly and everyone but Nick Johnson will stay off the DL. Fans support there team regradless of the moves they make or dont make so lets just play ball!
Keep in mind
that no team ever clicks on all cylinders. Every team has problems they have to overcome throughout the season.. hopefully they can play like they have the rest of the way and don’t take any steps backwards
"If you're a Yankee fan, or if you're not a Yankee fan - you have to admit, we're winners." -Paul O'Neill
by Chris McKeown on Jul 9, 2010 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions
I still don't think Lee is coming here
I’ll be shocked if he goes anywhere other than Minnesota.
"If you're a Yankee fan, or if you're not a Yankee fan - you have to admit, we're winners." -Paul O'Neill
yes
but in a 5 game series we may have to face him twice and he’s proven he can shut our lineup down.
we're due to knock the snot out of Lee
Halladay used to beat the Yanks all the time, they figured him out.
Its one man. The Yanks are too good to be held down against one pitcher for so long.
Bye, Lee :(
+1
"He needs to pitch in a higher league, if there is one. Ban him from baseball. He should be illegal."
—Tom Kelly, manager of Minnesota Twins, after his team faced Rivera
Halladay got his due earlier
Lees time has come
Yanks are pissed from missed opportunities last night, i like free’s prediction
BuTt iF hE gOez to tha Sux or DEVIL RAYZZ they will be UNSTAPABLE!!!!!!!
by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jul 9, 2010 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions
It is REALLY difficult to type like that.
by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jul 9, 2010 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions
+1
"If you're a Yankee fan, or if you're not a Yankee fan - you have to admit, we're winners." -Paul O'Neill
by Chris McKeown on Jul 9, 2010 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Which is the REAL reason
the Yanks would make the move, aren’t playing in the homerdome anymore. So besides the fact they may have to face him twice in a short series, Twinkies now have the resources to get a deal done long term with Lee.
His mother has a tattoo that reads, "Son".
Sharks have a week dedicated to HIM.
"It doesn't take more than one person, to talk to a woman.
Stay thirsty my friends."
by Great Gatsby on Jul 9, 2010 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions
So stupid.
This is just ridiculous now. Your already the best team in baseball, now your gunna trade your best prospect for another #1 and ur #4 pitcher for Jayson Werth. If this goes down should we even do the playoffs? Just cut the season in half. Play the all star game and then give them the world series..
Javy hasn't even been pitching like a #4 pitcher
face it, he’s been as good as an All-Star since his awful April.
"I'm looking at 600 as first base. I want to run right through it and use it as a platform and a spring board for more to come"- Alex Rodriguez
Hughes will go back to the pen, I guess this move strengthens the 8th inning.
Hughes can setup Mo, and limit his innings. I think they see Lee as the long term replacement for Andy. They must like Romine as a better all round catcher than Montero. I was hoping to see Montero though at some point in September. I thought he could pull a Shane Spencer circa 1998.
by upstateNYYFan1984 on Jul 9, 2010 9:37 AM EDT reply actions
It's sorta unfair to put Hughes back in the bullpen
Although they are going to have to limit his innings.. Idk it’s a shitshow to think about
"If you're a Yankee fan, or if you're not a Yankee fan - you have to admit, we're winners." -Paul O'Neill
by Chris McKeown on Jul 9, 2010 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Not to mention
There’s no point in putting him back, Best Record in Baseball, and we have had 8th inning issues.
"He needs to pitch in a higher league, if there is one. Ban him from baseball. He should be illegal."
—Tom Kelly, manager of Minnesota Twins, after his team faced Rivera
I just hope they get the deal done today, so we don't have to face him tonight.
Poor Seattle
by upstateNYYFan1984 on Jul 9, 2010 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions
I hope he gets knocked out of the game in the 2nd inning tonight.
That would be amazing.
by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jul 9, 2010 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions
it's a waste of a good starter
when a setup guy (Heath Bell, maybe?) could be had for less. Perhaps. Getting someone like that would help plug the hole if Rivera doesn’t come back (he hasn’t re-signed yet, has he?)
"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Jul 9, 2010 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Romine is our future catcher
while I would have liked to see Montero also, his future is at first base or a Dh, neither position is open on our team for the next 8 years.
not really the point...
trading Montero is fine, but why not wait to trade him for an actual hole on the team?
Bye, Lee :(
I understand that and agree with you
i was just pointing out the fact that it’s looking like Montero is mostly going to be trade bait because I don’t really see him having a future with us as a career DH.
Even more reason to wait
If you know you’re gonna trade him, wait until he’s killing the ball in AAA and you have a gaping hole from injury, retirement, free agent departures etc
"I am a man of great mental power." ~Alfonso Soriano
maybe...
but Montero is only 20. There could be a spot open for him on the team.
If he goes and pulls an AJAX with the M’s…..
Bye, Lee :(
DH is going to be crowded
if and when Teixeira and/or Rodriguez can’t field anymore during their long contracts.
"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Jul 9, 2010 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
They are going to have to replace the Montero wait wiget for a Romine one.
by upstateNYYFan1984 on Jul 9, 2010 9:41 AM EDT reply actions
I could live without Lee for all the reasons repeated ad nauseum above, but:
1. The Yankees have a bunch of catchers in the minors, better defensively than Montero.
2. Andy Pettitte is going to retire at some point.
3. Vazaquez, like him or hate him, is only signed for this year.
4. Hughes would not have his career killed by going back to set up for 2 1/2 months.
5. Someone could get hurt and Hughes wouldn’t go anywhere.
by designatedquitter on Jul 9, 2010 9:47 AM EDT reply actions
Those are all good points as well
It’s tricky.. I’m glad I’m not calling the shots on this one. Cashman won’t trade unless Lee agrees to an extension. I’m still not sold on it happening, but who knows?
"If you're a Yankee fan, or if you're not a Yankee fan - you have to admit, we're winners." -Paul O'Neill
by Chris McKeown on Jul 9, 2010 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions
All fair points
Andy retires and Javy leaves, what about Joba is he staying in the bullpen, what about the arms in the minors are they always going to be there, do they ever get a chance.
"He needs to pitch in a higher league, if there is one. Ban him from baseball. He should be illegal."
—Tom Kelly, manager of Minnesota Twins, after his team faced Rivera
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