Follow Yankees' Trade Rumors
by Ed Valentine on Jul 8, 2010 8:53 AM EDT
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PrintThe non-waiver MLB trade deadline is just a few weeks away. What do you want our New York Yankees to do?
Say the heck with it, be bold and jump into the Cliff Lee Derby? Get some bullpen help so that, maybe, we say say 'sayonara' to Chan Ho Park? Find a reserve middle infielder who can hit a little bit in the event Alex Rodriguez' hip flares up again? Find an outfielder, maybe a right-handed hitter, who can upgrade the bench? Do nothing?
You can follow all the Yankees' trade rumors over at SB Nation New York, where we are doing our best to sift through the maze of information and keep you up to date on the important stuff.
Of course, if anything big starts to percolate -- or actually happens -- we will have full analysis and discussion of it here.
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CHoP is South Korean, not Japanese… Google says goodbye is “Ahhn niyong.”
I think bullpen help is priority 1, but 1A should be a super utility player. I love Pena’s defense, and over the course of 162 games, I don’t think his offense hurts the Yankees. But in the playoffs, facing the best pitchers, a stronger bat would be valuable.
"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."
Just FYI, I think “Ahhn niyong” is used for both arrival and departure greetings (like ‘Aloha’). Anybody who watched Arrested Development should be aware of this on some level.
I agree that we need to rethink the bullpen, but I think that we can do at least some of that from within the organization. I’d like Royce Ring to get another shot at the majors. His last, for Atlanta, didn’t go well – but he’s pitching quite well for Scranton right now. Also, Albaladejo is just about ready for another chance. He’s been taring up AAA some pretty amazing stats, including an IL leading 27 saves (7 more than the highest competitor).
Also, how about a real DH? Johnson is supposed to be coming back right around the trading deadline, but I’m not confident that he can stay healthy.
I would prefer that the Yankees not give up prospects for a mid-season DH. Really though, I want Matsui back. I was hoping that the Angels would be so far out of first that they would be having a firesale to get rid of everybody. Stupid Seattle.
Offense isn’t the issue. I like the concept right now of keeping the DH spot open for players who need a day off from fielding.
by Scooby Snacks on Jul 8, 2010 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Johnson is a no go no show
And should void hhis contract or trade him immediately or as soon as can. Having him the lineup is giving away a sure out every at bat. He was and is a waste of time and the Yanks shoiuld make the move now.
by Nine mike charlie on Jul 8, 2010 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Having him in the lineup is giving away a sure out? What about the 40% of the time when he was not making outs?
Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.
Don't start that crap about his supposed OBP.
Get over it already. You must be insane to defend this loser.
only a loser overlooks the fact he doesn't make outs 40% of the time
and then says he’s an automatic out.
KEEP LEE!!!
wasn't refering to you.
CWang was “defending” NJ to the dude that said NJ is an automatic out.
But only and idiot would say that…its really not defending him, its just clearing up that a dude who gets on at 40% is not an automatic out.
KEEP LEE!!!
It's Nick's mama, posing as Free again
How you doin’ mama? How’s little Nickie?
Your usage of the word supposed is troubling.
Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.
Instead of Cervelli/Colin Curtis/Kevin Russo??? Umm hell yes. If he’s healthy, which is obviously no guarantee, he’s better than any hitter currently on our bench.
Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.
But Nick Johnson is fat and slow and doesn’t look athletic! There’s no way he can possibly contribute in any way! This is just new age mumbo jumbo, I want Nick Punto, he just looks like a baseball player.
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I want Omar Infante
I hear he’s an all-star quality utility infielder!!!
by waw on Jul 8, 2010 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Come on Duggan, that’s just dumb. The team is good right now. Johnson and his injury prone ass is simply not needed.
Yeah, the team is good, but getting Nick Johnson back means less of Ramiro Pena, Cervelli, and Curtis in the starting lineup.
I don’t understand why anyone would be against clearly improving the lineup by getting another bat back. If he gets injured again, we’re right back where we started. There is literally no downside.
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Only Nick'd Johnson
Could go on an extended DL as a DH
by HappyLuckyGoldenDragonNumber1! on Jul 8, 2010 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I watched the full series of Arrested Development in about 6 sittings. Hilarious.
"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."
Adding Cliff Lee to the Yanks’ rotation would be huge, and it would prevent him form going to another contender. I don’t want Tampa or Philly to grab him.
No to renting Cliff Lee for 3 months, at the expense of prospects, or anybody else
they would want for him. He’s already indicated he’ll test out the free agent waters at the end of the season. That’s the time to go after him, not now.
They only go after Lee if there is a risk he will sign an extension. (e.g. Mets get involved)
It appears though that Lee is committed to free agency, and he’s the Yanks number one target in the winter along with one of the big corner outfielders.
by upstateNYYFan1984 on Jul 8, 2010 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions
Why do we need a corner outfielder? Gardner and Swish have been great this year.
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by TheRealSlimShady on Jul 8, 2010 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions
they don't
and probably won’t.
KEEP LEE!!!
by FreeBradshaw on Jul 8, 2010 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I was wondering that myself. All our outfielders are young, healthy and reasonably productive (though Granderson is in something of a dry spell).
Honestly, we don’t really have any holes right now, with the exception of a healthy DH and a reliable bullpen.
Sign Crawford or Worth and send Granderson packing.
Both are better all around hitters. Put Gardner in center full time. Granderson’s contract is still very tradeable.
by upstateNYYFan1984 on Jul 8, 2010 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions
That would be fucking hilarioous if the Phillies traded for him again.
Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.
by CasanovaWong on Jul 8, 2010 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Bullpen
Tex and A-Rod are hitting homers now….the team scores more than enough runs, and the SP is perfectly fine.
Tweak the bullpen, maybe get some experience on the bench and call it a day.
In the end, this team is a defending champ, has the best record, and no team has owned the Yanks this year. If it aint broke, dont fix it.
Yanks win World Series in 5 games. Oh, is it too early to predict that? I dont think so.
This
Bullpen has to be priority #1. Upgrading your bench-utility infielder or a RH outfielder to platoon with Granderson (I can dream) is also not a bad idea, but not as important. I’d be willing to give Melancon and Abaladejo additional tryouts.
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by Captain_Mick on Jul 8, 2010 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Wigginton
should be our first priority. I like Pena but with the older players getting more days off or days at DH, I like him if he isn’t too expensive. Same thing with a reliever, try to get a good one as long as the team isn’t asking for top prospects. Lee would be nice but who do you take out of the rotation? CC, Burnett,Pettitte aren’t going anywhere, Javy has been pitching very well of late, and while Hughes is on an innings limit, I’m sure we could find a spot starter in the minors if we needed one. I also wouldn’t mind a backup OF either. I’ve been tough on Gradersons struggles but there’s no reason to overpay for a part-time player.
FYI When getting Ty Wiggington is your first priority...
you are in good shape.
Wiggy is gonna cost too much. Coming from inside the division and with a freshly minted All Star selection. No thanks.
Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.
by CasanovaWong on Jul 8, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Lebron James to the Yankees???
WHAAAT?!?
"If you're a Yankee fan, or if you're not a Yankee fan - you have to admit, we're winners." -Paul O'Neill
Here's a list that was recently discovered in Cashman's wastebasket:
Damon, Melky, Matsui, Nady, Hinske, Hairston, J. Molina, Shelley D., Coke, Tomko, IPK
No wait. That’s the list of last year’s castoffs.
.
Bring up
Kei Igawa, need another lefty in teh pen. He is the biggest winner in SWB history, LOL!
Seriously, a LH bat, for the bench, and another reliever would help. I don’t wan’t a two month rental like Adam Dunn, Lee is for the offseason list.
His mother has a tattoo that reads, "Son".
Sharks have a week dedicated to HIM.
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Stay thirsty my friends."
So "annoying" is Korean for adios? CHOP has certainly been that.
His replacement is the #1 need. Fortunately, that’s not too much to ask.
by designatedquitter on Jul 8, 2010 11:33 AM EDT reply actions
when hold my ho!
waz wit da dissing on my HO? with diarrhea well behind him, my boy HO will dominant in da second half, haterz laterz
Park Chan-Ho, Dae Han Min Guk ...
Saying sayonara to PCH is wrong. He still has a lot to offer the Yankees as a relief pitcher. In addition, sayonara is Japanese and Mr. Park is Korean. Get it?
Enough Already
We’ve established that long ago in this thread, so let’s leave it be. Poor choice of words on my part, now let’s let it go.
Hey Ed
I think Sayonara is Japanese and CHop is Korean. Not sure if anyone else mentioned that yet.
by HappyLuckyGoldenDragonNumber1! on Jul 8, 2010 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
An arm out of the bullpen
thats the most important thing. If they can get that, I’d like them to get another bat that can be a DH (Adam Dunn, Johnny Damon, Ty Wiggington), but the first priority should be to get a bullpen arm.
VOTE FOR SWISHER!!!!!
The Tigers are in 1st so Damon's...
not going anywhere.
They were in first last year too
and they dealt Washburn, who was a big peace of their rotation. So anything can happen.
I doubt it happens though. Dunn or Wiggington is much more likely.
VOTE FOR SWISHER!!!!!
Uhm...I don't think so. They didn't deal Washburn, they acquired him.
Seattle dealt him to the Tigers for scrap where he then went on to suck.
Buster Olney
in his blog today said that Toronto could be sellers and Jose Bautista may be an option for us. He also mentioned Scott Downs may be on the market. If they came cheap I wouldn’t argue with these guys. Of course trading in the division is always tricky so I don’t expect anything to come of it.
No one in their
division will help them out (possible exception odorous O’s), and even if one did, players won’t come cheaply.
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Sharks have a week dedicated to HIM.
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by Great Gatsby on Jul 8, 2010 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Since Nick Swisher is hardly a problem for this team
I can’t see them considering Jose Bautista.
Ive heard the Red Sox want Downs
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by bestbostonsports on Jul 8, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions
We could use someone like him
But you guys could too
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by bestbostonsports on Jul 8, 2010 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Tonight on ESPN
LeBron James will announce that he will infact pitch in the bullpen AND play every infield and outfield position. There is also a clause in his contract that the Rays have to throw a game and LeBron will indeed pitch the 3rd (4th, whatever) perfect game of this year. Gotta love Twitter.
Do you think the Yankees will give up Rommine or Montero for Lee? or wait until free agency?
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by bestbostonsports on Jul 8, 2010 12:53 PM EDT reply actions
they better not (barring injury)
or else Cashman should be fired.
KEEP LEE!!!
by FreeBradshaw on Jul 8, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I also don’t think this deal would happen.
They will get him in free agency
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by bestbostonsports on Jul 8, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
There's no need
All the rotation spots are filled and everyone is pitching well. Why give up a top prospect for someone you don’t need. IF they were to trade one of them I’d assume it woudl be Montero because of his lack of defensive skills and it looks like they’ll need the DH for A-Rod with in the next 2-3 years.
I agree.
Im hoping the Red Sox make a play for Lee, but we don’t have the catching prospects Seattle is looking for
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by bestbostonsports on Jul 8, 2010 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I still say the Twins
are the leaders with Ramos. I think the Reds could also be a candidate if they want to get serious. Maybe the Rays but I don’t know if they have the type of prospects the Mariners want the Rays have better pitching prospects than hitting.
Ive heard Rays and Twins mostly.
I see him as a better fit in Minnesota.
Would the Reds have to give up Chapman for Lee?
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by bestbostonsports on Jul 8, 2010 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions
That is true
But his name might come up. I don’t really know the Reds farm system by heart.
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by bestbostonsports on Jul 8, 2010 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions
That makes sense.
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by bestbostonsports on Jul 8, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions
From what I've heard
it would be a package centered around Yonder Alonso the Reds 1st round pick from a couple years ago, he’s a first baseman and obviously with Votto they don’t have much room for him.
Alonso, I forgot about him. I saw him play for Louisville at the Pawsox game I went to.
Yes, Alonso would be the guy Seattle would want, but they’d want more than that.
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by bestbostonsports on Jul 8, 2010 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions
and the M’s want catching prospects mostly.
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by bestbostonsports on Jul 8, 2010 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Sox can't
200 million tied up in Roll the Dice K, Joshua, and Lackey.
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Ramos
is hitting .203 in AAA, according to Suzie last night? Which means doing much worst than Jesus at that level, and three years older? But Jesus is not going anywhere.
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They won't bother
Starting pitching is our strong suit right now. Waste of prospects when all he will cost is cash next season. CC and Lee back together would be nice one day. But not this year.
by HappyLuckyGoldenDragonNumber1! on Jul 8, 2010 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Bullpen:
In the scenario that we aren’t giving Albaladejo (or whatever) a chance for the Yankees again, and our injured relievers won’t be back before the deadline, I say see what we can pick up in the form of a reliever.
Don’t cut CHoP.
Don’t help the bench. I don’t see how Thames or NJ (when they aren’t the DH) would be a problem off the bench. Pena could be a Defensive sub for closer games once Thames and NJ are back in the picture completely.
Don’t bother with Wiggy. He plays for a Division rival, and he’s now an All-Star, all the more reasons for the Orioles to give us a hard time for what would end up being an overpaid bench player.
Don’t go after Lee. Obvious reasons.
Don’t try to sign another outfielder. Swish, GGBG, and Grandy are fine. There is no need to platoon Grandy and insert outfielder here. Grandy will be fine, and if he is our biggest offensive concern, than we look like were in good shape.
That is all.
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by Gelatin on Jul 8, 2010 1:42 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Won't do anything NOW
with their outfield, could change in the offseason, depends on how Grandy plays in the 2nd half
of this season..Let’s say for example they sign Crawford, that would mean Swisher is the DH,
and I’m not sure thay would want him as a full time DH, or they have a logjam, and someone will be moved,
His mother has a tattoo that reads, "Son".
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That’s what I’m talking about. When the offseason comes, than I’ll have an opinion about it.
"Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy?"
by Gelatin on Jul 8, 2010 2:04 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I’m lookin at Jorge Vasquez to get a shot to be our DH soon enough. Big RHB, can play 1b and 3b adequately. Straight masher. Has done nothing but destroy the baseball since he signed with the Yanks. (.900+ OPS in 2 years) Pretty old at 27, but played professionally in Mexico for 8 years Doesn’t walk at all, 10BB in abt 90 games. .301/.316 /.581 in Scranton this year.
Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.
.581 slugging and a .280 ISO sound nice!
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Wow, I just looked up his stats
He hit 33 homers in 2005 in only 285 at bats and 71 games. Holy shit.
Dude is legit
Plus, all they throw is offspeed junk in those leagues, so I don’t think he’d have trouble hitting MLB breaking stuff.
Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.
If that is the case
Posada will be gone after next season? He sure won’t be catching after next season,
and his contract is up?
His mother has a tattoo that reads, "Son".
Sharks have a week dedicated to HIM.
"It doesn't take more than one person, to talk to a woman.
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I meant he could possibly be our DH for the rest of the year or until NJ is fully healed (which might be never). I think the Yanks squeeze as much catching out of Posada as they can and give him a 2 or three year deal. I don’t think either Romine or Montero are cut out to catch a full season in 2011 so we’re going to need Posada as our primary C/ DH/ mentor for Romine or Montero.
Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.
Good point
I just hope they don’t try and squeeze anymore after next season out of Posada behind the dish.
His mother has a tattoo that reads, "Son".
Sharks have a week dedicated to HIM.
"It doesn't take more than one person, to talk to a woman.
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Word.
By the 2nd year of the deal I’d imagine he’s DH 75% of the time with the other 25% split between catching and being on the bench so another vet can get a day off.
Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.
If he is catching
at ALL after next season, that would be a problem, you can also mentor without catching yourself, hell Girardi could still mentor if he chose to, and didn’t have to deal with something call managing.
His mother has a tattoo that reads, "Son".
Sharks have a week dedicated to HIM.
"It doesn't take more than one person, to talk to a woman.
Stay thirsty my friends."
I'd take a Chili Davis/Darryl Strawberry/Eric Hinske type bat to come off the bench......
Question is…is there anyone out there that fits that description?
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kid going crazy after yankee win @ari, classic!
the hidden values of HO
anyone who have ever witness HO’s roundhouse kick would know that is a deadly weapon in the case of bench clearing brawls.
don’t be hating on Ho!
trade deadline
No Cliff Lee rental for great prospects. Gardner to CF full time – pick up Nady to platoon with Granderson in LF – if Granderson keeps at the .225 mark, play Nady full time. No DH deal – just keep revolving it around. Pena would hit over .275 if he played more. So, just Nady & a middle reliever, but no major prospects traded.
Xavier Nady 2010:
238 /.311/.369
-2.6 UZR in RF
-0.1 WAR
Curtis Granderson 2010:
.
225/.300 /.402
4.9 UZR in CF
1.2 WAR
Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.
Your facts have no place here. Granderson’s low batting average as a result of a tiny BABIP is all I need to know that Cashman has ruined this team forever.
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WAR?
The “facts” are the real numbers and Nady’s are better, as shown. They would be even better on the Yankees instead of as a part-time player on the lowly Cubs.
Nady's numbers are MARGINAL better
Give Granderson some time… he was hurt for a month and he’s a proven All Star. Have some faith that he’ll turn it around before you look to start dealing for another outfielder.
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by Chris McKeown on Jul 8, 2010 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions
marginally**
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by Chris McKeown on Jul 8, 2010 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Has more to do with the fact
that we need a power bat off the bench. I do like the platoon idea tho.
Grandy
won’t be moved to LF this season, would have done that in ST, if he still here next spring,
that could be a possibility next year. As for Nady, meh, LH bat would be more useful.
His mother has a tattoo that reads, "Son".
Sharks have a week dedicated to HIM.
"It doesn't take more than one person, to talk to a woman.
Stay thirsty my friends."
Nady? ru kidding!?
We picked up Nady in his career year, and then he blew out his elbow so forget him!! The Yanks need to get rid of Park and trade him out of NY asap, give albaladejo or one of they’re other young arms from AAA a chance, and get a UTIL guy off the bench, this is why I kind of wish they did resign Jerry Hariston Jr to come off the bench.
+1
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by Chris McKeown on Jul 8, 2010 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions
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