Yankees Likely Getting Berkman
by Brandon C. on Jul 30, 2010 5:07 PM EDT
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PrintUpdate: 10:24 EST: Looks like righty reliever Mark Melancon is the price for Berkman. I wouldn't exactly call Melancon, 25, a non-prospect. Pretty obvious, though, that the Yankees' opinion of Melancon had changed in the last year or so.
Update: 5:42 EST: Not sure what this means, but it sounds good. Ken Davidoff is assuring Yankees fans that the Astros will receive "non prospect minor leaguers" in return for the switch hitter.
Update: 5:37 EST: Seems like Berkman really wants to be a Yankee, according to Jeff Passan. The only real hitch is last minute details. (I'm sure the Astros and Yankees have agreed on who goes to the Astros, we just don't know who it is yet) Meanwhile, Bob Klapisch thinks the Yankees have more deals in the works.
Update: 5:31 EST: Ken Rosenthal is on top of the situation. Since Berkman has 10-5 rights, he is required to take 24 hours to approve or reject the deal (like a no trade clause). He has already approved of it, but the trade can't become official until tomorrow.
Update: 5:20 EST:Mark Feinsand says it will not be a top prospect going to the Astros. Ken Rosenthal reports the move will be strictly a rental and Berkman will not be under contract for next season. Frankie Piliere reports names like Ivan Nova or David Adams could be going to the Astros in the deal.
Joel Sherman is reporting that the Yankees will likely be acquiring Lance Berkman of the Astros soon. If this goes through, I really like this deal. Sure, Berkman is struggling somewhat this year, but he is the new Nick Johnson, minus the fragile walk machine label. Berkman is a proven veteran, that if healthy and effective, is a star. Maybe a change of scenery and being reunited with former teammate Andy Pettitte will work well for Berkman.
More to come.
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Yeah thats the biggest need.
I am sure if pitching was availble they would get it.
Since the face been revealed the game got real
No...
Well relief pitching sure, but we don’t just need pitching, Andy is almost back, we certainly don’t need a starter, and Hughes will go back to the pen for the playoffs.
How can you like this deal?
This is going to cost one a mid-high level prospect at least, if not more. The Yankees don’t need a bat. They need an arm. And Berkman is not doing well this year. If it was Adam Dunn or Russel Branyan and they didn’t give up the top guys, then I’d do it. But it’s Lance Berkman, who isn’t doing well, and it may cost the top prospects.
I really hope Montero, Joba, and Romine are still on this team.
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Forgot to mention this
According to sources, the Astros just want to shed some salary. Whichever team gets him won’t have to give top prospects
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how long is he under contract?
"I'll do whatever it takes to win games, whether it's sitting on a bench waving a towel, handing a cup of water to a teammate, or hitting the game-winning shot"-Kobe Bryant
then I really hope it isn’t a top prospect.
He’ll just be a rental. I’m not sure I’d even want to give up Z-Mac or Nova for him.
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I didn't really think at all before writing this post
I just wanted to get it done so we don’t miss the rumors. I can’t check right now, I’m busy talking to people about it and trying to check updates and whatnot, I’ll update the post with everything when/if it becomes official
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This is all about the Astros saving $6 Million dollars
Which is what Berkman is due for the rest of the season. And as we know, money is no object for the Yanks. I suspect that the deal is for a mid-level prospect only. If this is the case, it’s a nice deal for the Yanks. Berkman is still a very dangerous left handed bat. As a righty, he’s been dreadful, but he won’t be DHing as a righty – because the Yanks will still use the DH as a means of giving Jeter, Posada, and A-Rod days off from the field as their righty DHs, along with Thames, and it will solidify Berkman as the Lefty DH, something the Yankees have desperately needed, especially with the way Yankee Stadium is configured.
Forgot about Sir Lance....
probably cuz he kinda stinks this year. If its for big time prospects and/or Joba, I’m gonna be real pissed cuz this team just insists on these big friggin names this season, for whatever reason.
However, if its not…then fine. Lance can mash and I’m sure he’d feel rejuvenated coming to NY and actually playing on a contender.
Sure as hell gives us a big time bat.
Go New York Go!
I would like to see...
Michael Wuertz (or similer Relief) in Pinstripes… Its come to this… just a minor move.
We have best Record in baseball… we Dont need a big splash. Cmon Cash. Keep the Pups pleze
Statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything.
Wuertz is not a minor move
dude’s one of the most unheralded top non-closers in baseball. He’s not doing well this year, but Billy Beane usually doesn’t care and would bend anyone over who tries to trade for him.
Go New York Go!
by FreeBradshaw on Jul 30, 2010 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL Yeah a couple teams you can’t trade with w/o getting screwed, A’s are def one of them
Since the face been revealed the game got real
Well...
Let me see, Holiday for Brett Wallace. Seems like A’s made out on that one.
Statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything.
and before that....
Carlos Gonzalez for Holiday… which turned into Brett Wallace. Whoops
Statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything.
Minor Move...
Meaning, Not an All Star like Berkman/Lee/Haren/Dunn/Soria/Oswalt… etc…etc…
and Everyone on the A’s is unheralded. and your right about Beane… But What if Joba for Wuertz was on the Table? would you Pull the Trigger?
Statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything.
I see that trade as short sighted. Like the Twins trade for Capps but they need a closer and they have a great shot at winning the division. Yanks are in first place getting rid of Joba for a over 30 year old pitcher who could have injury concerns is not a good deal to me.
Since the face been revealed the game got real
No
Joba whether anyone wants to believe it or not has starter potential, while Wuertz is always gonna be a reliever with one pitch (his slider).
Go New York Go!
by FreeBradshaw on Jul 30, 2010 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Well... That depends..
on wheather you think Joba’s best days are behind him or not.
Statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything.
I'd hope Cash doesn't think that
probably doesn’t or else we’d have Scott Downs
Go New York Go!
by FreeBradshaw on Jul 30, 2010 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe Cash is dealing with "Pride"
is the holdup with Joba… I mean, if you trade Joba, then you admit to Screwing him up.
Statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything.
or he's admitting that this as good as he's gotten.
The Yanks didn’t screw him up. They did absolutely nothing different then any team in MLB, its kinda of funny that its even a thought that they’ve done anything out of the ordinary.
Joba would probably be screwed up now if he was a reliever or starter all this time.
Go New York Go!
by FreeBradshaw on Jul 30, 2010 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Joba was a shot in the arm for our pitching staff in 2007, which consisted of an inconsistent Mussina, an injured Wang and injured Clemens at the top. They (being the front office) did what they had to do in considering him as a starter the next year. After all, our only home grown starter before that was Andy Pettitte 11 years earlier.
If you're a real Yankee fan, please do the rest of us a favor and splurge the extra cash on a replica jersey without a last name on the back. Frankly, it's embarassing.
by total hermination on Jul 30, 2010 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, you can never tell...
It will be discussed ad nasuem, no matter what happens. But its been awhile since I seen a Yankee Prospect hit the Scene like he did 1997, and Fall so far… IMO ( most importantly)
Statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything.
Kevin Maas? Shane Spencer?
Statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything.
Besides...
Everyone Knows, a Puma has Spots not Stripes
Statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything.
horrible
another case of Cash playing the name recognition game. I’ll be pissed too if prospects are involved. BULLPEN IS THE PRIORITY! Remember Richie Sexson a couple of years back? Prove me wrong Berk
If you're a real Yankee fan, please do the rest of us a favor and splurge the extra cash on a replica jersey without a last name on the back. Frankly, it's embarassing.
by total hermination on Jul 30, 2010 5:23 PM EDT reply actions
Well
I agree completely with your signature (except the word frankly makes me laugh) and I disagree about Berkman and Sexson
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Richie Sexson was taken off the scrap heap for absolutely nothing
plus, he was an absolute shell of his former self. Berkman at least can still hit semi well
Go New York Go!
by FreeBradshaw on Jul 30, 2010 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions
even if he wasn't a trade
I still think we’re getting too predictable….surprise me Cash!! This isn’t fantasy baseball.
Having said that I do recall some monster jacks at Minute Maid, and if we gave up CHOP for him, welcome Lance!! can I take your bag?
If you're a real Yankee fan, please do the rest of us a favor and splurge the extra cash on a replica jersey without a last name on the back. Frankly, it's embarassing.
by total hermination on Jul 30, 2010 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions
"he" referring to Sexson
If you're a real Yankee fan, please do the rest of us a favor and splurge the extra cash on a replica jersey without a last name on the back. Frankly, it's embarassing.
by total hermination on Jul 30, 2010 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Check for constant updates
Once it’s done (if the deal is done) i’ll fix the post into one post without the updates, just the final outcome. For now, it’ll be in updates
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yes, bullpen should be the priority
But it’s not like great relievers are out there for the taking. If we’re not giving up big-name prospects, we might as well upgrade our offense and try to fix the bullpen another way.
by long time listener on Jul 30, 2010 5:26 PM EDT reply actions
So he's approved it?
Well it looks like it’s going to happen then.
As long as it’s not a major prospect then I guess it’s not a bad deal. I hope after this Cash goes to focus more on pitching though. I would’ve liked to see Nova or Z-Mac get a shot in the big leagues, but it looks like one of them is gone.
I hope he turns it around and plays like himself once he comes, because if he doesn’t it’s a bad deal. Hopefully being on a contender will make him turn his season around.
I don’t love it, but I’ll root for him now. Hopefully he does well.
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the hell is a non-prospect minor leaguer?
Go New York Go!
by FreeBradshaw on Jul 30, 2010 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions
the hell is a non-prospect minor leaguer?
Go New York Go!
by FreeBradshaw on Jul 30, 2010 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Probably a minor leaguer that the Yankees don't care about giving away
Like a role filler or an inbetween prospect and role filler
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The Yankees can't trade him from what I've heard
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Actually the Padres were willing to last year or two years ago
Don’t remember which, but the Yankees can’t move him because of the luxury tax
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Too much of luxury tax hit for the Yankees to move him
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by Jedi Master A-Rod on Jul 30, 2010 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions
why do we even need another bat?
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couldn't't they just
not play NJ?
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by yankeepanda44 on Jul 30, 2010 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions
if they're getting him for basically nothing
The Puma as the DH would be incredible
Go New York Go!
by FreeBradshaw on Jul 30, 2010 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions
If we aren't giving up top prospects...
Joba has to be part of the deal… right?
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by Chris McKeown on Jul 30, 2010 5:46 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
fantastic trade
berkman is only worth a C level prospect
if it’s nunez or some other “prospect” who will never have more than a cameo role on the Yankees it will be a great trade.
LOL, try matching up the Yankees
Jeter- R
Swisher- S
Tex- S
A-Rod- R
RC- L
Berkman- S
Grandy- L
Po- S
Bret- L
Dayumn.
RU RAH RAH
RU RAH RAH
I like the deal, sounds like were getting him for spare parts and a bucket of baseballs.
Switch hitting, solid power. With the Yankees line-up around him he should really fill some of the hole that Matsui/Damon left.
by upstateNYYFan1984 on Jul 30, 2010 6:01 PM EDT reply actions
I like the deal so long as we aren’t sending any quality guys back to the Astros (ie., salary dump).
Berkman gives us a Swisher type player at DH. Now you can give Posada real days off, not DH half-days.
The splits worry me long term (.188 .278 .281 batting RH against LHP), but that just means that when the Yanks face a lefty starter, Berkman should be the bat off the bench. I’m glad there’s no long term committment.
"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."
Berkman's been raking this month
Go New York Go!
by FreeBradshaw on Jul 30, 2010 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Thames
should still start against lefty’s
by yankeechaser on Jul 30, 2010 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Acctually, the splits just show that Berkman is now purely a lefty DH
Which, frankly, is what the Yankees need. They have plenty of older guys who need fielding days off, plus Thames, to serve as the Righty bats. Berkman is still plenty good from the left side. And I wouldn’t be surprised at all to see him hit 15+ HRs in the last 2 months as the Lefty DH playing in Yankee Stadium.
guess
he will be available for tomorrows game?
Not sure about that
He can’t be official until tomorrow and it’s questionable when tomorrow
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He should get on the plane tonight and approve the deal from Tampa.
"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."
Wonder who the Yankees will take off the roster
Curtis?
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Forgot about him
Certainly hope it’s him
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Miranda probably
"I'll do whatever it takes to win games, whether it's sitting on a bench waving a towel, handing a cup of water to a teammate, or hitting the game-winning shot"-Kobe Bryant
What the hell is a non-prospect minor leaguer?
Does this mean that Nova or Z-Mac also are not part of this deal?
If that is the case I love this deal now. He’s not having a great year, but he could always turn it around- we’ve seen what he’s capable of. And they’re getting him for virtually nobody.
"I'll do whatever it takes to win games, whether it's sitting on a bench waving a towel, handing a cup of water to a teammate, or hitting the game-winning shot"-Kobe Bryant
That was fast
I’d expect it to be an Albaladejo type, but you never know if reporting is correct. Remember, Ken Davidoff is the same guy that predicted a Blue Jays Giants World Series in 2007
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Buster Olney just said it too
Even if he works for a four letter word, he’s kinda like Adam Schefter in football.
Go New York Go!
by FreeBradshaw on Jul 30, 2010 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions
non-prospect minor leaguer:
Isn’t that like what R.A. Dickey was before he turned into the Mets ace?
Since the face been revealed the game got real
Lilly to replace Hughes?
Hughes has a limit, do they just send him to the bullpen when his limit becomes close?
"I'll do whatever it takes to win games, whether it's sitting on a bench waving a towel, handing a cup of water to a teammate, or hitting the game-winning shot"-Kobe Bryant
Sort of
Dickey was more like a journeyman…the minor leaguer is probably a young guy
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Not sure why non prospect minor leaguer is so hard to get
Prospect=Player that you expect to make the MLB and be a solid MLB player
Minor Leaguer=Player that is in the minor leagues and you hope to make the MLB, but don’t necessarily expect to
Combine the two terms
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Awesome move
YANKEES 2010 World Champions
by The American Mr.Hockey on Jul 30, 2010 6:09 PM EDT reply actions
Salary dump basically is what I'm hearing
for a guy that has a .400 OBP but also can MASH.
Seems that they’re not done too, so I’d think a pitcher’s coming here. Lilly?
Go New York Go!
It's always been a salary dump
From what Klapisch said maybe a pitcher, I don’t really want Lilly
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Not many
If it’s Lilly or no one, I might even take the no one. Not sure what to make of the bad market
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Well in 3 weeks a few more might pop up when other teams fall out of the race. Even though it isn’t definate
Since the face been revealed the game got real
I wanted Lee, then I wanted Haren
Now that they’re both gone, I don’t think many good names will be available.
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does it matter?
There’s no spots in the OF
Go New York Go!
by FreeBradshaw on Jul 30, 2010 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions
As long as it's not for any top level prospects, I like this deal.
With how well Moseley did, with how well I think Sergio will do not starting, and with D-Rob and the soon to hopefully be brought back up Albaledejo, I think a good DH/Bench player like Berkman can help.
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by I'mGivingYouARaise on Jul 30, 2010 6:20 PM EDT reply actions
Does Berkman spell relief?
Does Berkman spell relief? I don;t think so. The Man of Cash makes another Grade C move… Let’s trade him to the minors and get a real GM.
lets not
cuz its a great deal
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by FreeBradshaw on Jul 30, 2010 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions
the Berkman trade that is.
excellent move
Go New York Go!
by FreeBradshaw on Jul 30, 2010 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Who are we giving up?
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by Chris McKeown on Jul 30, 2010 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I dunno
but it seems names like Russo and Juan Miranda are being thrown around.
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by FreeBradshaw on Jul 30, 2010 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions
there's probably a strong chance your not a Yanks fan if you don't like this deal
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by FreeBradshaw on Jul 30, 2010 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions
As long as Romine, Montero, Joba, Gardner and Cervelli are here
We can give up anyone else
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by Chris McKeown on Jul 30, 2010 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions
this is the same guy who was crying cuz we lost a game to the Rays (not Y2 but the original poster)
apparently AJ can;t pitch in the postseason cuz the loss to the rays was a big game…
hahahaha
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by Chris McKeown on Jul 30, 2010 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed
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by Chris McKeown on Jul 30, 2010 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Austin kearns coming too.
I love the berkman pickup. I wanted them to get him last year
by Wraithpk on Jul 30, 2010 10:07 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Only 270K for him
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by Chris McKeown on Jul 30, 2010 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Looks like it’s melancon and paredes, along with picking up 3.5 mil. Also, berkman apparently denied an earlier trade to the white sox.
by Wraithpk on Jul 30, 2010 10:11 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
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