Adding A Starting Pitcher Still Not A Yankee Priority
by Ed Valentine on Jul 19, 2010 3:12 PM EDT
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Print'Kuri' speculated some this morning on how our New York Yankees will replace Andy Pettitte in the starting rotation the next few weeks.
Well, we know Sergio Mitre gets the start on Saturday in Pettitte's place. Mitre will need a little time to build arm strength as he was just completing a rehab stint, but he is the logical first candidate.
Other than that, I have been monitoring the goings-on and the rumors most of the day and here is what I can tell you right now.
- Buster Olney of ESPN, whose reports I would trust a whole lot more than a lot of what is being speculated out there, tweeted this morning that the Yankees' priorities are improving the bench and the bullpen -- not the starting rotation. That makes sense to me. No matter how the Yankees replace Pettitte there will be increased pressure on the already suspect middle of the Yankee bullpen. BTW, I would love to see Toronto's Scott Downs in pinstripes. Besides, do you really want Ted Lilly or Roy Oswalt long-term?
- Joba Chamberlain will not be bumped into the rotation. In the process of shooting that down, Yankee General Manager Brian Cashman also took what can be perceived as a shot at the inconsistent Chamberlain. "Sergio Mitre outpitched Joba Chamberlain for the starting rotation competition in spring training anyway. I think we have the personnel, but I think our bullpen has been inconsistent and everyone in there, other than Mariano, has not pitched up to their capabilities and their track records." Fact is, Cashman is right about that. Mitre is the guy who deserves the opportunity and the Yankees could not afford to take Joba out of the bullpen anyway.
- Cashman also said the Yankees will not be recalling Ivan Nova to replace Pettitte between between now and Saturday, when Mitre will be recalled to pitch. My money is on Jonathan Albaladejo, who has done everything he should need to do in order to earn another Bronx opportunity.
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I'm glad we aren't calling up Nova, and Albaladejo will most likely get a well deserved shot,
but I can’t say I’m a fan of Mitre starting, not because he idnt good enough too, but because of the injury.
Its the only logical thing to do, and I’d rather that than for Cashman to trade away some prospects for a SP.
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by Gelatin on Jul 19, 2010 3:23 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I hope Albaladejo does
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by Chris McKeown on Jul 19, 2010 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
REALLY PATHETIC
BAD ENOUGH YANKS LET LEE GO—-THAN TO PROUDLY SAY ITS OF NO MATTER IS INSANE!!!! YANKS WILL LEARN A HARD LESSON—-PITCHING IS WAY MORE IMPORTAN6T THAN HITTING——-PERIOD!!!!!
IT IS WAY IMPORTAN6T, ISN'T IT
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by Lord Duggan on Jul 20, 2010 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Pretty much what I would do.
Since I’m usually right all the time, I approve.
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by I'mGivingYouARaise on Jul 19, 2010 3:27 PM EDT reply actions
Also
pretty much what I said regarding Kuri’s post, didn’t discuss Alby, just other pitchers mentioned.
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by Great Gatsby on Jul 19, 2010 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions
“usually right all the time”
Paradoxical adverbs are awesome. ;)
I think giving Mitre the start makes sense, especially if they think Andy will only be the DL 15-20 days.
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Yea, think of the GREAT BABE RUTH—Great hitter, really great pitcher, but lets not forget—-he was the great strike out king —because——-great pitching always trumps great hitting—-lets not get confused with d. trump ok?? got it….
I find it hard to believe that there are even still a few people out there
who think that since Joba failed as a starter last year and has been inconsistent as a reliever at best this season that he should be the one to jump back into the rotation again. The guy can barely pitch a complete inning this season.
My guess is that whoever asked Cashman about that option just wanted to give him an opportunity to take a shot at Joba.
I don't disagree with your conclusion that Joba shouldn't start this year
But Joba didn’t “fail” as a starter last year. At least not by any reasonable assessment.
by long time listener on Jul 19, 2010 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I think that Cashman himself asked the question,
so that he could take a (well-deserved) shot at Joba. If we had the George of old, Joba would have been called a lot worse than “fat puss y toad”.
BTW, I would love to see Toronto’s Scott Downs in pinstripes
Scott Downs for Jesus Montero sounds good to me :)
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by craig in calgary on Jul 19, 2010 4:11 PM EDT reply actions
Throw in Ricky Romero and Vernon Wells (how's Curtis Granderson sound?)
and you may have a deal!
Go New York Go!
by FreeBradshaw on Jul 19, 2010 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Haha, you can have vernon (and his collosal salary) for a throw in.
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by craig in calgary on Jul 19, 2010 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
If JP
was still running the Jays, maybe we could get Downs for Chad Moeller. Frankly, none of their
relievers excite me. I don’t trust Downs in NY.
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by Great Gatsby on Jul 19, 2010 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Bahaha JP was pretty bad, but his New England accent got him an ESPN gig
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by DukBudr on Jul 19, 2010 6:06 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Joba should not go to the rotation
I agree about that. Don’t put him into the rotation until next year at the earliest, although the way the Yanks have treated Joba I really don’t know his future.
I’d prefer Ivan Nova to get the start instead of Mitre. Nova has been solid at AAA, he did a good job when he came up earlier this year, and he’s stretched out as a starting pitcher, while Mitre isn’t. Thats my biggest problem with Mitre. He can’t be stretched out by Saturday, so they are either risking hurting his arm by sending him out there for 80+ pitches, or they will hold him to 3-4 innings at most, which means another tired bullpen day. Neither of those options sound good to me, which is why I think that Nova would be the better choice.
However, Mitre will get the start, and Albaladejo will likely be coming up (he definitely deserves a shot). Hopefully Mitre does the job and the Yanks just keep winning games.
I agree with getting Scott Downs, especially with the recent injury to Marte.
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Yep. Boone Logan has not been horrible, but I really don’t trust him in late-game spots.
by Ed Valentine on Jul 19, 2010 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd DFA Moseley
Of course, in the event we get Downs. I’d DFA Moseley or Gaudin and keep um both. We benefited from it last year with Coke and Marte we should do it again.
Joba to the rotation??
Really?? How is this even being brought up again? Hes struggling to return to form in the bullpen and now people want to mess with him AGAIN and try to make him a starter, AGAIN?? No. That makes no sense.
I think a guy who makes sense is Brett Myers, hes had a very good year on a really bad team and not only that, hes been used in the bullpen in the past. He could kinda be like a way better Gaudin. Hes also not an Oswalt or Lilly so I cant imagine the Astros will be happy for whatever they get for him.
Scott Downs sounds very good right now, relying on Boone Loogan. One last thing, I wouldn’t part with any of my top prospects for essentially a 6th starter. If we can score a Brett Myers or Jake Westbrook for some low level prospects we should do it.
I don’t think the correct move right now is to move Joba into the rotation, but I am going to definitely quibble about your phrasing.
Nobody wants to “make him a starter,” he is a starter. Starting is how he logged his innings in high school and college, in the majority of his time in the minors, and more than half of his major league innings.
Joba moving into the bullpen is the “experiment,” not the other way around.
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by Lord Duggan on Jul 19, 2010 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I agree 100%
your opinion is now mine!
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by FreeBradshaw on Jul 19, 2010 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions
<3 Laybrawn
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by Chris McKeown on Jul 19, 2010 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Most guys
who come up from the minors WERE starters, not a starter now, not doing a very good job at his current role either. He will never start again wearing pinstipes, and that’s it.
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by Great Gatsby on Jul 19, 2010 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah i see joba as a set up for a hwhile
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