An Angel Fan's Assessment of Pinstripe Alley
by agent_99 on Jul 17, 2010 9:58 PM EDT
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First, let me state that I do not troll, so this post is not intended to incite any anger or hatred. What caused me to join this site was the apparent blogging war between HH and PA which erupted yesterday. A link to your "Open Letter" was posted at HH on the front page. I had no idea any problem existed, so I read the HH thread in question, then read the "Open Letter". After reading the PA post, I decided to join PA with the intention of leaving a comment, but, of course, I had to wait the requisite 24 hours.
Since I had to wait anyway, I took the advice of the site and began reading many of the posts, comments, and even links to other blogging sites. I was becoming increasingly impressed. Lots of good information, interesting stories and well written posts.
Well, now that 24 hours have past, any irritation, grudge or even anger that the "Open Letter" may have inflamed in me has long passed, but I am left with an interest in remaining a member of PA. Now, don't get me wrong- I am a die-hard Angel fan and absolutely love booing Yankee players when they square off against my team, but it's just a sports rivalry thing, nothing more. And this site proves a theory I have about real baseball fans. Real baseball fans have more in common than they have differences. Real baseball fans, while fiercely loyal to their team, value and respect baseball played well and played right. I have no problem saying that I admire and respect Derek Jeter, however, I do not hesitate to say that I have neither admiration nor respect for Alex Rodriguez. And, yes, I do offer condolences on the loss of your team's owner and your team's announcer. This past year the Angels lost one of their broadcasters, Rory Markus, whom we all loved dearly, so there is some sincere empathy.
So, thank you for giving me a platform for airing my opinions, and I hope to God we meet up at the play-offs. Really.
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Thank you
You are one classy Angels fan. And a rematch between the Yankees and Angels in the playoffs would be truly exciting, however you guys need to find a way passed Cliff Lee and the Rangers though.
As far as the blog war, I feel that it is finally over, as Pinstripe Alley seems to have become a site of no complaining, positive attitudes, and outright support of our favorite team (and if you’ve read the previous two game threads, you would know).
Thank you for leaving this note. I’m sure we Yankees fans will look forward to your comments in the future.
"I'm looking at 600 as first base. I want to run right through it and use it as a platform and a spring board for more to come"- Alex Rodriguez
Rangers lost tonight- Angels move up a game!
Scioscia’s favorite phrase is “one game at a time”. Thank you for the warm welcome and the kind words!
youre welcome
That place was for diehard sports fans. I only follow my team when they're in the playoffs" - Homer Simpson
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by bestbostonsports on Jul 18, 2010 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions
My writing usually has this kind of effect on people
In all seriousness though, thanks for the kind words! We really do welcome you here in any post, game thread, fanpost, etc, feel free to be part of the community. I know this blog war is giving a wrong vibe about both blogs and I think it’s just wrong.
Hopefully you do stay a member of the site and hope to see you commenting here! Don’t worry as long as you don’t openly root against the Yankees here we won’t say anything about your being an opposing teams fan.
Writer for Pinstripe Alley
"Today I consider myself the luckiest man on the face of this earth."
"So I close in saying that I may have had a tough break, but I have an awful lot to live for."
R.I.P. Bob Sheppard, George Steinbrenner
Thanks for the kind words. And a rec too!
Questions or thoughts? Email me at duggan2423(at)gmail(dot)com
No problem, champ. We (if I could be so bold as to talk for the blog as a whole) always like it when fans of other teams come over and hang out.
Occasionally there is bad blood between certain fans, but what you said here:
Real baseball fans have more in common than they have differences.
is exactly how I feel. Hopefully a few PSAers being upset with a few HHers doesn’t stop you from hanging out here and having a good time talking about the game, which is something we can all enjoy.
Questions or thoughts? Email me at duggan2423(at)gmail(dot)com
I totally agree with everything you said agent99
Real baseball fans respect the game and how it is played. As long as people aren’t being arrogant d-bags, I have no problem having a baseball conversation with them. You’re certainly welcome to air your opinions here, just don’t be surprised if you say something extremely foolish and we get on you for it!
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next." -George Michael Steinbrenner III
It's sad in a way, what it has come to
I don’t want there to be a “war” between PSA and HH. Idealy, there would be more comments by Angels fans here and more comments by us over there.
What I’d really like to do is have Rev Halofan come here and discuss baseball with us. I’d like him to explain his deep hatred of all things east coast and if he REALLY believes that the MLB made the Angels lose that ALCS. Because some of those recaps really implied he believed it was rigged. I’d like to have him explain all this because frankly people who question him over there don’t last very long.
There is no reason for this “war” to exist. The Yankees and Red Sox have a much deeper rivalry and hatred and yet the majority of PSA and OTM users are treated fine at the other blog because they still respect each others’ teams.
"We're only going to score 17 points?" - Tom Brady
"Well played, Mauer." - Guy from PS3 commercials
I think the 'war' is pretty much over.
From this point on, I think the whole incident will only be mentioned in passing by HHers when making jokes-very few of them take things that seriously. They are actually a great group of people, but, as my husband like to say, there is always a jerk in every crowd. Anyway, thanks for the great welcome.
Thanks
As I said in my post, what I wrote was directed at certain members of HH who repeatedly insulted themselves and their team with disrespectful comments and constant complaining. Although the post was titled “An Open Letter to Angels fans,” I don’t think that all Angels fans or all members of HH are like that. Similarly, I wouldn’t want anyone from HH to judge Pinstripe Alley based on reading my post alone. I’m glad that you took the time to look through more of the content on PA before forming an opinion on our community.
Good to see there are some classy Angels fans.
It’s just a shame that some give you guys a bad rep.
Did you know Joe Morgan thinks Cano will win a batting title one day?
I have been going to see the Yankees in Anahiem regularly
for the last 22 years since I moved from NY. In the early years before the Angels won their WS, it was like visiting Yankee Stadium West. It was lots of fun being in a crowd of so many Yankee fans again. It seemed like there were more Yankee fans than Angel fans in attendance.
Once the Angels became good again, more Angel fans than Yankee fans would show up at the games but they were always good natured in their ribbing. I have never had a problem wearing a Yankee hat and shirt at a game—even when I went to one of the playoff games last year.
This season I got to see the Yankees in Anaheim and again at Dodger Stadium. All I can say is that Angel fans have class while the Dodger fans are a bunch of drunk, foul-mouthed, lowlife a*holes. They would throw things and try to pick fights. I was so glad that the Yanks came back that game and beat them in the end. It sure did shut them up. Either way, I love seeing the Yankees in Anaheim despite the f*ing rally monkey and F*! the Dodger fans.
by garp on Jul 19, 2010 3:44 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
rec'd for the Dodger fans comments
We get invaded by Dodger’s fans every year and I stay away from the stadium at that time. Going into Chavez Latrine as an opposing fan is dangerous and asking for a fight. Although I’ve never been to prison I’m pretty sure that upon booking in the California Penal system they hand you a Raider’s hat and a Dodger’s jersey. I’m pretty sure there is Gangland (great History channel series) about Dodger’s fans coming out.
I also was embarrassed by some of the talk about GS on our site but that is a small minority to that choose to state their negative feelings. I read quite a few of the SBN sites and the negative comments were everywhere, I think the All Star game unfairly gave a forum for our two teams fans to go at it. George should be mourned by you and everyone who has something bad to say should stay quiet. Those of us that thought that he hurt baseball should stay out of your way.
Keep up the passion for your team and I am hoping that we face each other in the post season over and over again.
This isn't 'Nam. This is bowling. There are rules.
by SalmonStream on Jul 19, 2010 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Rec'd again
A Dodger fan is the lowest common denominator of sports fans. Happy to see you came out of the stadium alive.
Red Hudler > Rodger Lodge
by Teixeira Who? on Jul 21, 2010 7:42 AM EDT up reply actions
I disagree
Phillies fans get my vote for that.
"WHO WOULD LEAD?! THE CLOWN?!"
by I'mGivingYouARaise on Jul 25, 2010 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions
do you not resprct Arod because...
He rips the angels every year or is because you guys really only care about your thundersticks?
I cannot stand the Angels.
I can't stand the thundersticks... good God.
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next." -George Michael Steinbrenner III
by Chris McKeown on Jul 20, 2010 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Seriously
is this a question to which I should respond? Arod has a habit of, at times, displaying embarrassingly immature behaviour. Arod needs to take a lession from Jeter on how to behave, on and off the field. And then of course there is the whole steroid issue.
If an opposing player has the ability to ‘rip’ the Angels, I have no problem with that. Like I said, I am a fan of good baseball, and I will applaud any team that plays it well and plays it right. Perhaps I am ‘old school’, but I believe there is also a mentality of responsibility that goes hand-in-hand with sports, particularly baseball. My opinion, and it’s just my opinion, is that Arod lacks that mentality.
Now as for thundersticks, who the hell cares?!
Immature behavior?
What does he do that is so immature? I dont ever see him running into the dugout screaming at everybody and everything like Zambrano did or getting into legal trouble or things like that, so really I dont see how you can call him immature
lol I love how people say he has a habit of being immature
in what cases has he been immature? If you’re talking about him running off with a bunch of women, hey, right now he’s divorced, single, and allowed to do that. And in case you didn’t know, Jeter went through just as many if not more women than A-Rod before Minka came along.
If you’re talking about the on-field antics such as screaming HA or knocking the ball out of Arroyo’s glove, my response is who the hell cares? It’s the heat of the moment, and he’s trying to help his team win. He’s not a “bush league player” who tries to cheat. The Yanks were on the verge of collapsing in 2004. They NEEDED a baserunner. I probably would have done the same thing, honestly in that moment. Heat of the moment. It’s not like Richie Sexon or Kevin Youkilis, who charge the mound and try to beat up the pitcher. Or Zambrano, throwing that temper tantrum. Ortiz throwing bats at an ump? Manny Ramirez freaking out over Clemens on a pitch nowhere near him? Or Pedro throwing Don Zimmer to the ground. I think all those actions I mentioned show a lot more immaturity than 2 on field, in the moment antics in 15 year career.
As for the steroids, that argument is simply pathetic these days. Most the league was on them- every team had them. It’s called the steroid era and it’s baseballs fault as much as the players. If you don’t respect somebody because they used steroids, then I’m sorry, you’d be hating most of the athletes who played baseball the last 20 years. Alex is a Hall of Famer anyways.
Call it Yankees fan, or East Coast Bias if you want, but I seriously disagree with you on A-Rod. I actually think he’s classier these days than a lot of other players in the league, and he doesn’t get enough credit for that.
"I'm looking at 600 as first base. I want to run right through it and use it as a platform and a spring board for more to come"- Alex Rodriguez
Yeah, pretty much everything you brought up.
First, I do think those incidents you mentioned are ‘bush-league’, and those incidents, in my opinion, are the very definition of “trying to cheat”. This same attitude spills over into Arod’s private life when he was running around with women WHILE he was married.
Are there worse examples of immature behaviour around the league? Sure. But that doesn’t excuse anyone. The oft-heard cry of “But others do it!” or “Others are worse!” doesn’t make it any better, or even right.
The key to my response was “In my opinion”. I am quite certain most Yankee fans view Arod much differently than I do. The more important question is who will win tonight’s match-up between our two teams, and if the Angels prevail, will I gloat about it here on PA?!
You’re staking your hopes for gloating on dominant, ace, perennial Cy Young contender, Sean O’Sullivan, are you? I’m not sure how I feel about that strategy…… :P
Questions or thoughts? Email me at duggan2423(at)gmail(dot)com
Duggan
You know we never beat guys we’ve never faced or guys making their debut. I knew you’d be eating your words here. History repeats itself.
Ah, well. I’d have trash talked no matter who we were facing.
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by Lord Duggan on Jul 21, 2010 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions
well you seem like a classy Angels fan
if you can gloat without trolling, you’re welcome to gloat.
I get what you say about A-Rod- just different opinions. He’s one of the best of all time and is still helping the Yanks win ballgames, so of course I’m going to defend him and support him. I never used to like him much, but he’s become one of my favorite players after his way of handling the situations in his life. Oh, and like 6 huge home runs in the postseason helps too.
Can’t wait for the game tonight. Of course, I’m not worried with Hughes pitching. I wish Kazmir and his 7 ERA was healthy for just one more start, but you can’t have everything, right? I don’t think they’ll have a problem with this O’Sullivan guy. Although I’ve never heard of him so i don’t know what kind of pitcher he is.
"I'm looking at 600 as first base. I want to run right through it and use it as a platform and a spring board for more to come"- Alex Rodriguez
umm OK now you can gloat
do it quickly it’s a quick turnaround with a day game tomorrow where your bragging rights will be over.
"I'm looking at 600 as first base. I want to run right through it and use it as a platform and a spring board for more to come"- Alex Rodriguez
Ooo! I get to gloat now!
Boo-yeah! 10-2! Take that, Pinstripes! Little-Man Mighty Maicer Izturis with a HR! Naps goin’ deep for 2 more, and Godzilla hittin’ it back at ya! Yeah. Well, I guess that’s it. Okay, thanks!
That game...
…was just sad. (I realize you’ll see it very differently!) ;-)
Incidentally, how have you liked Matsui as an Angel so far? He was one of my favorite Yankees… I understand why we let him go (mainly the creaky knees and need to reserve the DH slot for our aging veterans getting the occasional half-day off) but still, I miss the guy.
Matsui is a likeable ballplayer who gives his all.
Unfortunately, the Yankees knew what they were doing when they let him go. I think Matsui was to the Yankees what Vladdy was to the Angels. The Angels will always love Vladimir Guerrero, but the organization let him go for basically the same reasons you guys let Matsui go. In the case of the Rangers, the bet paid off; for the Angels, not so much.
However, have you seen the Matsuiland sign when the Angels play at home and the camera pans the stadium? He is well liked.
A-Rod to an Angels Fan...
Was it immature when he went deep off Nathan in the playoffs last year? Was it immature when he hit the ball of the Camera in the right field corner in the World Series? Was it immature when he became a true yankee and single handedly brought us to the World Series?
You want to talk about immature? Tori Hunter said that spanish baseball players are IMPOSTERS. Maybe thats not immature its just stupid and pathetic. I HATE tori hunter and i HATE the Angels and I am not going to let someone come in here and say they think A-rod is a joke when he one of the best baseball players of all-time.
Was it immature for your team to break your best players leg when he jumped like Tigger onto the homeplate? Bc im pretty sure that game will mean absolutely nothing. Stick to the pies my friend.
Get serious man, I am not going to sit here and lick your B&^% because you come in and say a few kind things about the Boss and George. Your an Angels fan and you love thundersticks.
Go Home!
I never said A-rod was a joke.
A-rod is a very talented player. His skills are not in question. I was talking about an intangible aspect of his character.
I think you need to look up the definition of the word ‘immature’. Torii Hunter’s comments were not immature, they were ignorant. Kendry Morales broken leg was not immature, it was unlucky.
I didn’t come here to have anyone like my butt, or whatever $^& stands for: I came here to share a love for baseball. I’m sorry that you don’t get that.
i just don't see how calling Arod Immature
“in passing” is sharing your love for baseball…
Tori Hunter called Spanish Baseball players Imposters. LOL.
I think you need to do a self-assesment before you come in here and call one of the best baseball players of all-time immature. He had some issues with the media, with his perception of himself and guess what makes those things feel a lot better? A WS Title.
I respect your “love for baseball” but I am simply not going to let you critisize our best player in passing and then pretend you didn’t even do it. Thats like me going into your website and saying hey the Angels are a great team, they have a lot of pride. Please sit on a thunderstick.
Your either being friendly or your not, so pick one.
PS- I can’t believe you other Yankee faithful let this guy slide with that comment. Get Serious.
we didn't
I called him out on it, just asking why he didn’t have respect for the guy (even though I pretty much knew the answer). But he has his opinions. Can’t really change it. Just because he doesn’t have respect for A-Rod’s character doesn’t mean he isn’t a classy Halos fan. At least he isn’t on here doing the usual haters “A-roid sucks and should be banned from baseball” shit. He at least recognizes how good he is and how good he has been throughout his career. Respect is a whole nother thing, but I’m not going to judge his “friendliness” based on a comment about one player.
"I'm looking at 600 as first base. I want to run right through it and use it as a platform and a spring board for more to come"- Alex Rodriguez
Dude...
chill out. A-Rod is a lightning rod and tends to evoke strong feelings both ways (like/dislike). It’s easy to dislike A-Rod given some of the stuff he’s pulled in the past. As for me, a lifelong Yankee fan, I’ve always respected A-Rod’s talent, he’s a very rare breed in that department and we’re all blessed to be able to see him play the game. But when he first arrived at the Yankees, yup, I thought he was immature, too. He was really, really, needful of constant attention, basically, “Hey! Look at me!” He seemed jealous of other players that might get the spotlight. He seemed pretty insecure, to be honest.
That said, it’s been a pleasure to see his turnaround in that department over the past year or so. I think he’s grown a lot as a human being, and it makes me glad to see the transformation. I think it’s no coincidence that he broke out last postseason… it seems a direct result of a much better attitude and being in a better, more comfortable place psychologically. I’m no shrink, but that’s the way it seems to me.
I’m happy for the guy and at the same time, yeah, I get where some folks might not have that same outlook. That’s cool, we can all respect one anothers’ opinions and maybe try to convert the other guy to our way of thinking, but still be respectful of the possibility that it just might not happen. Peoples’ opinions are first and foremost their own, no problem there.
A-Rod has changed a lot since the steroid admission. He’s really grown up. I would have totally agreed with you before, even though I’ve always liked A-Rod, he was pretty selfish. I think the humbling of the steroid thing and winning a WS has really made him see that this isn’t an individual game, it’s a team game.
It's mainly the steroid thing for me to be honest.
Him, Manny, Ortiz, Bonds, McGwire, etc.
"You gotta have nuts." / "Coming Around 3rd, especially if I'm ticked off, that's going to happen." - Torii Hunter
by Commander_Nate on Jul 21, 2010 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions
the steroid thing
sort of stands true for a lot, and even possibly most of the league. You’d be hating on a lot of players if you hate them for steroids. And they’re the same players everybody rooted for in the ’90s and are even given credit to some extent at “saving baseball”.
I think that Bud Selig and baseballs front office, who let the entire thing happen in the first place, should be blamed for the steroid era. Not the players who were going along with something the rest of the league was doing and wasn’t being tested for.
Personally, I think it’s a bit hypocritical to hate players because of steroids. But thats just my opinion. I don’t hate players because of steroids. I hate a lot of the players you mentioned (well, Manny and Ortiz for obvious reasons), but for other things. As for steroids, At least Alex was man enough to admit it, and even if you hate steroids you have to admit that better him than Bonds (the poster boy of the steroid era) as the HR King. He’s still one of the best of all time. Steroids don’t make or break a player that good. Ask the steroid users who never get out of the minor leagues.
"I'm looking at 600 as first base. I want to run right through it and use it as a platform and a spring board for more to come"- Alex Rodriguez
To me, it turned baseball into sort of a freakshow like the WWE or something
A group of juiced-up, unnaturally beefy dudes with anger issues performing feats nobody has ever seen before to draw a crowd. It might be entertaining for a while, but we all know that’s not wrasslin’.
It may have drawn crowds back, but remember that they had left for the most part because of the strike in ‘94. Now that steroids are mostly gone, I’d agure the sport has actually been saved because fundamentals have come back. Baserunning, defense, pitching and “small ball” are back. Sure, some teams still rely on power, but it comes from normal power guys who hit 25-40 a year instead of 60+ on the juice. We are finally seeing real baseball again. With A-Rod and some of those other guys, the thing that really bothers me is that they were already really good and cheated anyway. That’s not really justifiable behavior in any profession.
In the end, you can’t do anything about championships and pennants won or lost, but you can still protect the personal records. If it was up to me, all those guys would go into the record books with an asteriks by their name. If they must be let into the Hall, put one on their jersey as well. The Steroid Era was a dark era for baseball and should be remembered as such.
"You gotta have nuts." / "Coming Around 3rd, especially if I'm ticked off, that's going to happen." - Torii Hunter
by Commander_Nate on Jul 22, 2010 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions
That's my thing about steroids
It’s not that these guys had the inflated numbers they had, rather it’s the record breaking with which I have a problem. If Barry Bonds finished with 700 homers it would be like, “Okay, he hit a lot of homers because of steroids.” But since he became the All-Time HR King, displacing Hank Aaron who did it naturally, it’s harder for me to digest. Same will be with A-Rod, I actually hope he doesn’t break the record (755, that is).
Thing is
I’ve met some people who got really cynical about all of baseball — every single player, every single team — because of the steroid incidents. I happen to love baseball and while I don’t condone steroid use (IMHO it cheapens the achievements as you suggest) I can’t hate the whole game because of it.
What really irks me is those fans who apply the steroid judgment against other teams’ players but insist that their team’s players were clean. Sorry, that’s ridiculous. You either accept that ALL the teams had cheaters in their midst, or give them all the benefit of the doubt. I don’t care which way you (not you literally, just this sort of fan) come down on the issue, but you’d better apply your rationale equally, even toward your own team.
As for the records: yes, I think it’s stupid to break records while you’re getting a big-time assist from steroids or HGH or whatever. But there have been non-purist things that have impacted the stats players compile all through history. What about the dead ball era? What about introducing artificial turf, so ordinary grounders suddenly became base hits? Playing in a bigger or smaller or windier or drier park? Spitballs? Altering the baseball with files, emory boards, tacks and the like? Raising or lowering the pitcher’s mound? Call a generous vs. tight strike zone? This could go on and on. I’m like the next guy in wanting to see everyone compete under equal circumstances, across all time. In a perfect sense it can never happen. Where does one draw the line?
really?
Realize that if he doesn’t break the record that his contract would end up being a complete bust and that he completely breaks down throughout his career.
Let me explain, he needs to average 23 home runs per year for his contract to break the record. If he can’t even do that and he doens’t break the record, then the contract was a bust and it wouldn’t be good for the team.
I hope he breaks the record, because I don’t think that steroids make or break a HOF player and I think he’d have similar to the same stats anyway, since the natural baseball talent he has has a lot more to do with his 600 bombs than PEDs. I think it will be cool to have a Yankee at the top of the HR leaderboard. He’s one of the best ever. I’m rooting for him all the way.
"I'm looking at 600 as first base. I want to run right through it and use it as a platform and a spring board for more to come"- Alex Rodriguez
This pretty much sums up the way I see it as well.
The real shame is that guys like A-Rod and Clemens already had the ability and determination to reach great levels- they didn’t need the juice, like, say a minor leaguer who felt it would help him get a shot at a contract.
I think it would be ridiculous to eliminate all players from the steroid era from entering the HoF, but the asterik concept seems the best way to handle it.
So I guess the amphetamine era before it was just peachy?
What about the spitball era? This is all aside from the fact that steroids, while illegal, weren’t against the rules until after A-Rod stopped juicing, anyway.
Didn't your mom tell you two wrongs don't make a right?
Oh, and baseball does have, and has had, a policy that if something is illegal by law, it’s also not allowed in the sport.
Way to rep for us agent_99
Most Angel fans are classy, chill, and love baseball. Sure, we don’t cheer quite as loud, but we’ve also never had snow during a home game ;)
Oh, most of us don’t think there’s a scheme against the Halos either. If there really was, we wouldn’t have knocked the Yanks out in 02, 05, and the Sox out in 09.
Just loving the game, and loving your team!
HH has some decent citizens
but their leader, Rev, is a total ass.
"Jurick Profar is tired of practice!! I wanna play I wanna play….waiting for march 12 to go to spring training! to kill some pichers:D:D I am Jurickson Profar son of judeska and chesmond.. And I was born ready! ready to play baseball!!" - Jurickson Profar
lol
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next." -George Michael Steinbrenner III
by Chris McKeown on Jul 21, 2010 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions
You've met Rev, right?
Even in recorded interviews (Idk if that was ever aired), he’s an obnoxious clown
http://www.foxsportswest.com/pages/video/?&PID=QVmVzuH17J84fLQx9oAM8j6pUhEnQ5qQ
I give him some credit for being passionate about his team, though. But he does spew a lot of vile on that blog.
"Jurick Profar is tired of practice!! I wanna play I wanna play….waiting for march 12 to go to spring training! to kill some pichers:D:D I am Jurickson Profar son of judeska and chesmond.. And I was born ready! ready to play baseball!!" - Jurickson Profar
hahaha yes I know
Him and the other guy were fairly terrible on their ASG broadcast
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next." -George Michael Steinbrenner III
by Chris McKeown on Jul 22, 2010 8:44 AM EDT up reply actions
ROFL
Almost exactly how I pictured him. Those tattoos are pure class.
by YankeesRock on Jul 22, 2010 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL WHAT A DWEEB!!!
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next." -George Michael Steinbrenner III
by Chris McKeown on Jul 22, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Seriously LMFAO!!!
“I’m RevHaloFan… I’m the best blogger in Southern California and I have the best tattoos of any blogger.”
by Scooby Snacks on Jul 25, 2010 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions
BAHAHAHAHAH
+10
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next." -George Michael Steinbrenner III
by Chris McKeown on Jul 26, 2010 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions
It would be nice if Agent 99 actually resembles Barbara Feldon. Do you?
by designatedquitter on Jul 21, 2010 9:22 AM EDT reply actions
As an undercover agent, I cannot give away such vital information.
All I can tell you is that Max is a very happy camper!
About HH
I didn’t see the open letter thing you’re talking about, but I’ll share my opinion of HH. Last year when we saw you guys in the playoffs, I wrote an article comparing each player at each position. I used the advanced stats at fangraphs, and even looked at data from 3 years to try and determine if someone had an outlying season, either bad or good, and I tried to guess how each player would perform in the series. I thought I was pretty unbiased in my conclusions as well.
Obviously, what I was trying to do was difficult, and there’s no way I was going to nail it perfectly. A lot of people at HH appreciated the work I did, but I got a lot of negative comments. There were a lot of people basically saying that trying to guess what players would do via stats was stupid. Why people who don’t believe in stats would read the article in the first place was beyond me. I also got a lot of flack about some of my predictions. If I remember right, the only positions the Angels had the advantage at were the three outfield spots. I don’t mind if you disagree with me, but some of the comments were just plain abusive and uncalled for.
There are a lot of moron fans for each team, and there were a lot of fans on HH that were very respectful too. We have our fair share of moron fans as well, but thankfully FreeBradshaw manages to scare most of them away from this blog, lol.
I did a position by position scouting report that was front paged, and it went over very well.
Several of the comments talk about how much they want a more civil debate. Don’t let one poster (even if it’s the lead mod) ruin your entire experience of Angels fans.
"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."
I’ve been a Yankees fan for the entire 40 years of my life. Every member of my family is a Yankee fan. I was born and raised in Upstate New York and weened on a steady diet of Phil Rizzuto calling games on WPIX. I’ve deified: Gehrig, Ruth, Mickey, DiMaggio, Whitey, Yogi, Reggie, Winfield, Mattingly, Goose, Guidry, Munson, Cerone, Bucky Dent, Willie Randolph, Lou Pinella, Derek Jeter, Hideki Matsui, Joe Torre, Jorge Posada, Mariano Rivera, Andy Pettite, Tino Martinez, Bernie Williams, Paul O’Neil, Joe Girardi (the player,) and many more I’m probably forgetting right now. I have always disliked the Red Sux and their fans. I have always disliked the Dodgers, S.F. Giants and pretty much any other professional team that disses its city and moves. It has taken me some time however, to develop my sincere disdain of of all things Anaheim/L.A./ Orange County/Southern California/Who the Heck Really Cares What Municipality You’ve Decided to Claim this Year Angels.
Now you might ask. Do I hate the Angels because Reggie ended his career there rather than in pinstripes? No, that’s not it. Do I hate the Angels because now Matsui is wearing that lame Halo instead of the interlocking N.Y.? Nah, not that either. Do I hate them because of the way they have seemed to own us in the playoffs up until last year? Nah, although that does add fuel to the fire, I can’t hate a team just because they’re good. I can’t stand the Angels anymore because their fans are forever jumping on Yankee boards on Yahoo and SB Nation to do nothing more than talk garbage about the Yankees through a veil of backhanded compliments and their favorite “love of the game” trump card. It’s like they are all programmed by the same evil genius.
Let’s be clear, as big of a Yankee fan as I am, always was, and forever will be – I’ve never really been an A-Rod fan. I cheer for him ONLY because his successes on the field aid my favorite team in its quest for another World Series title. Do I think he’s a primadonna? Yeah. Do I think the attitude he has often exhibited is everything that is wrong with sports? Yeah. Do I think he has really changed much recently (the last year or so?) Nah. Do I dislike the fact that he used steroids? Heck yeah, as much as I dislike every player of every team that was doing that. The steroid era soiled the sport! Will I ever consider him a “true Yankee?” Wow, tough call, but probably not. Will I give him the chance in this year’s postseason to prove that last year was not a fluke and he really isn’t Mr. Choketober? Yeah.
I guess the pith of this message that I want to get across here is that Agent 99 can take her backhanded compliments elsewhere. Seriously. A-Rod is one of ours, you attack him, you attack us. How’s about a Yankee fan set up an account on HH just to feed you some lame song and dance about respect for true fans blah, blah, blah – then in the same post we rip into John Lackey, Tori Hunter, Mike Scoccia or that imbecilic Rally Monkey of yours? Hmmmm. Would you appreciate that?
I'm sorry that you've interpreted my appreciation of all things baseball as lame.
It is kind of funny that you and I can have the same opinion of A-Rod, the use of steroids, and so much more that you’ve stated so well in your comment here, but, because I am a fan of the Angels (having been born and raised in Southern California, that should be no surprise) all of my compliments must surely be backhanded, and that my assessment of A-Rod’s personal character (not to be confused with his athletic ability) is catagorized as an attack.
I didn’t set up an account here to rip into Yankee players; I set up account here because I like baseball and you have some knowledgeable members that offer information I will not find at HH. Is it possible that one’s interests can be taken at face value, and not assumed to be a pretext for ulterior motives? Only in a perfect world, I suppose.
Don't worry about it, agent_99.
There are some folks around here that harbor bad sentiments from rev halo and his breed of ‘fan.’ (Quotes because I don’t consider to be fans of much of anything, other than conspiracy theories, perhaps, and foisting their trash on the world.) I believe you at your word and didn’t take any offense at your post over here, though I disagree somewhat about A-Rod. (See my reply several comments above about that.) Most over here are glad to have you with us, whether or not they agree with you on each and every issue. We can agree to disagree on occasion and still enjoy the interaction.
Thank you
I wouldn’t expect everyone to agree with all of my opinions (that would make them Angels fans, then, wouldn’t it?). Being able to listen to differing points of view without taking personal offense, I believe, only helps us to make better arguments. Thanks again.
Choose One
I suppose what I am trying to express here is that, while I may not be the biggest ARod fan, I will back him as long as he is wearing the pinstripes. Agent 99 and many other Angel fans seem to like to stir things up by coming with an M.O. that goes something like this: nicety, nicety, nicety, nicety, sneak in some knuckles upside the left eyesocket, nicety, nicey, nice-nice… It’s a Trojan Horse attack. Beware, Yankee fans. It’s one thing for us to critique our own, an entirely different thing for us to be so eagerly willing to let others do it to us. Seriously, how long would that sort of thing last in the South Bronx. It wouldn’t even be a New York millisecond. Along with that Anaheim Modus Operendi generally comes the victimized “I just love the game” whine when you call them on it. It borders on patronizing, and even implies that if we don’t sit back and allow them to dis our team, we don’t share a similar passion, that we are not as pure a fan as they are. Sorry! Not TODAY! So choose one, just be honest and straight up and stop with the two-faced backstabbing, or be the troll that goes to other fanpages an disses their team. You want to tell us that you think ARod sucks, just come right out and say it so there’s no pretenses and fronting. At least then we know straight up what we’re dealing with, be it friend or snake.
Let me just add, that had you left out the bit about ARod in your original post, you would have received props from me regardless of what team you cheer. I truly think you have a very solid franchise in Anaheim and for the last decade or so has been one of the Yankees biggest competitors in the AL. The fans of your club seem to have a miserable habit, however, of stirring up the effluence in other people’s septic tanks then complaining and mocking them for how bad it smells. If you must do that, keep it in your own sewer, please.
I understand your apprehension to accept me at face value.
SBNation is full of people that play a ‘bait-n-switch’ game. I mentioned A-Rod in my original post only to draw comparison between a player like himself and a player such as Derek Jeter. And I wanted to be honest with all of you here at PA with the fact that there are Yankee players I like, and Yankee players I don’t like (but that should not be taken as a reflection of my opinion of the Yankees organization, or of this particular blog site).
Never in any of my posts have I ‘dissed’ the Yankees, and never in any of my posts have I said that A-Rod sucks- because he doesn’t.
Look, I didn’t ask you, personally, to like me or the team I root for. I thought this was a public site meant for fans to discuss baseball, and as long as I followed the stated guidelines I would be allowed to participate in the debate. If your moderator would like to ban me, that’s fine. Lord knows our moderator has banned numerous people for much less than what I’ve written here.
Take a chill pill bro, agent_99 has done literally nothing inappropriate or uncalled for.
We LIKE having fans of other teams come in here and share their views. There’s no reason to get all in a twist.
Questions or thoughts? Email me at duggan2423(at)gmail(dot)com
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I’m sorry
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next." -George Michael Steinbrenner III
by Chris McKeown on Jul 27, 2010 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions
A bit harsh on A-Rod
I disagree with a lot of what you’ve said about him… but it’s not really worth getting into.
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next." -George Michael Steinbrenner III
by Chris McKeown on Jul 25, 2010 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
If he keeps up these numbers, keeps his head in the game (as he’s been doing recently), I’ll consider him a “true yankee”
he's already a true Yankee
One swing off of Joe Nathan in October confirmed it for me. The rest was icing on the cake.
"I'm looking at 600 as first base. I want to run right through it and use it as a platform and a spring board for more to come"- Alex Rodriguez
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