Is It Time To Consider Jermaine Dye?
by Brandon C. on Jun 30, 2010 11:00 PM EDT
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PrintThe Yankees bench currently consists of a combination of rookies and inexperienced hitters. The Yankees are likely scanning the trade market for a bench bat that would be an improvement. Such options would take a little bit of time to complete a deal. There is another market that the Yankees might want to be looking at. The free agent market.
There is only one bat on the free agent market that's worth talking about. That bat belongs to Jermaine Dye. Last season Dye hit .251/.340/.453 with the Whitesox. He hit 27 homeruns and 81 RBIs. Dye has not played since last season, but could he still help the Yankees off the bench? Yes.
Right now the Yankees have Chad Huffman and Colin Curtis as the outfielders off the bench. While they have certainly held their own in the bigs, the Yankees could use a veteran hitter that might give opposing managers a little bit of a scare. With Marcus Thames coming back soon, the main argument could be that Thames and Dye are similar players. Both players are similar in the fact that they can help the Yankees.
The Yankees should not throw all the money they can at Dye. They should continue looking for better options in the trade market. However if that doesn't work out, Dye should be considered. The Yankees do not necessarily need him and I am not necessarily saying I want the Yankees to get him. The truth is the Yankees just need to consider this option and not let their bench continue to consist of all inexperienced players.
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If this lacks sanity
I wrote it at 11:00 pm when I’ve slept about 5 hours this week and I have work at 8 tomorrow morning. If it doesn’t…i’m impressed with myself
Writer for Pinstripe Alley.
"Today I consider myself the luckiest man on the face of this earth."
"So I close in saying that I may have had a tough break, but I have an awful lot to live for."
Dye would never do it, he turned down more money than the Yanks would offer
Lets let the kids get a shot. You never know if one of them has some Shane Spencer in them.
Journeyman doesn’t refer to how many teams you’ve played on. It more refers to the level you play at. Granderson has reached the peak of his talent. AJax is on the way up. You see what you’ve got in CF and at the plate with Granderson and it’s not that great. - SparkySaves
I'm not so sure
Dye? Really? I don’t think so. Just because the Yanks got smoked by Hernandez doesn’t mean we have to sign Dye.
Wait until its closer to the trading deadline.
That had nothing to do with this post
Writer for Pinstripe Alley.
"Today I consider myself the luckiest man on the face of this earth."
"So I close in saying that I may have had a tough break, but I have an awful lot to live for."
Well as long as were going to look into former player hypotheticals
Thoughts on Carlos Delgado?
by Monotonousblob on Jun 30, 2010 11:09 PM EDT reply actions
Not sure if that's sarcasm
if not, isn’t he hurt?
Writer for Pinstripe Alley.
"Today I consider myself the luckiest man on the face of this earth."
"So I close in saying that I may have had a tough break, but I have an awful lot to live for."
I'm not really in favor of either unless for a low price
Latest I could find on Delgado was that he was expected back by June.
by Monotonousblob on Jun 30, 2010 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I had to laugh at whether it was sarcasm
I wouldnt want either of these guys. Just go get Giambi for a guy off the bench. Wont cost anything, short porch and Giambi are a perfect fit.
Journeyman doesn’t refer to how many teams you’ve played on. It more refers to the level you play at. Granderson has reached the peak of his talent. AJax is on the way up. You see what you’ve got in CF and at the plate with Granderson and it’s not that great. - SparkySaves
by YankeesJets on Jun 30, 2010 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Barry Bonds hasn't officially retired!!!11!!
With the short porch he’ll hit 100 home runs.
by Monotonousblob on Jun 30, 2010 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions
So Griffey Jr retired before Bonds
But Bonds stopped playing first,lol
Journeyman doesn’t refer to how many teams you’ve played on. It more refers to the level you play at. Granderson has reached the peak of his talent. AJax is on the way up. You see what you’ve got in CF and at the plate with Granderson and it’s not that great. - SparkySaves
by YankeesJets on Jun 30, 2010 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions
malware warning
I don’t know if anyone’s reading this, or if they can do anything about it, but when I click on the recap post, it a big security warning comes up that says that the page “contains elements from the site ”http://www.ibcsports.com" target="_blank">www.ibcsports.com " that may be harmful. I’m running Google Chrome, if that helps.
by long time listener on Jun 30, 2010 11:10 PM EDT reply actions
Hey, I got that too actually, I'm doing a emergency scan as we speak
"We're only going to score 17 points?" - Tom Brady
"Well played, Mauer." - Guy from PS3 commercials
Malware Warning
Yeah i had the same thing pop up. I just clicked continue because i think it is nothing serious. It is probably a link to some sports stats website
I'm the nervous type
I assume someone has already stolen my identity.
by long time listener on Jun 30, 2010 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions
\Read in an Arnold Schwarzenegger voice
“You stole my identity!!!!”
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by Lord Duggan on Jun 30, 2010 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions
more on topic
I voted 2 and 3. If he’s willing to take something incentive-laden, and there’s nothing looking good on the trade front, why not bring him on board. I do worry that he has more or less the same skill set as Thames, though. I can’t see how they can keep both around, so Dye probably has to be a better option than Thames.
by long time listener on Jun 30, 2010 11:14 PM EDT reply actions
By the way
Close voting so far! Voting ends at midnight tomorrow
Writer for Pinstripe Alley.
"Today I consider myself the luckiest man on the face of this earth."
"So I close in saying that I may have had a tough break, but I have an awful lot to live for."
NO DYE
the yankees hitting is fine,sure they lost the last two games, they must address the lack of consistant pitching that is the only draw backs at this point,if a couple of the starters round in form they will win the division by 10 games with the offense that they have.
Nah
maybe if GGBG is out for the rest of the year, but seems the little bugger will be back soon
KEEP LEE!!!
ehh i don't see how that has to do with getting a guy who's a DH primrarily
cuz dye playing the field = Thames playing the field with broken legs
more so = Thames
you can get away with him out there.
IF the Braves did/are doing well with Eric Hinske in the OF, the Yanks could do fine with Dye out there, preferebly in RF and I guess move Swish over to LF
KEEP LEE!!!
by FreeBradshaw on Jun 30, 2010 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Fangraphs has Thames as a consistently slightly below average defender and Dye as a consistently atrocious defender. I know your faith in these things is limited, but here they are anyway:
Dye (2009) : -21.6 fielding runs in 1120 innings in RF, -26.1 UZR/150.
And he doesn’t have Thames special skill of being able to mash lefties. Jermaine Dye would be a useful addition, but I doubt he’s going to be cheap enough, and to be honest, I’d rather just get Thames back.
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by Lord Duggan on Jun 30, 2010 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions
probably...
but the thing is, if GGBG is out for the year, then you could use another bat, since Thames is in the field.
Just grabbing Dye for 3-4 mill vs. making a trade would probably favor Dye
KEEP LEE!!!
by FreeBradshaw on Jun 30, 2010 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions
If we lose GGBG for the year, the equation is entirely changed, I will give you that.
But if he is able to come back, I really don’t want to waste any money on a right handed bench player who can’t play the field or get on base at a high rate.
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by Lord Duggan on Jun 30, 2010 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions
He'll be back soon
In Jeter, We trust.
by Chris McKeown on Jul 1, 2010 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions
wait wait wait
Is there any indication that GGBG is going to miss an extended amount of time? I thought he was day-to-day.
by long time listener on Jul 1, 2010 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions
he is.
which is why I stated “if” that.
KEEP LEE!!!
by FreeBradshaw on Jul 1, 2010 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions
ok
I thought you were privy to information of a more scary nature. And that scared me.
by long time listener on Jul 1, 2010 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh I'm always privy to that
KEEP LEE!!!
by FreeBradshaw on Jul 1, 2010 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions
well I wish you'd keep it priv-ate
You scared the bejesus out of me.
by long time listener on Jul 1, 2010 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions
I say sign him for a reasonable amount. Injuries are part of the game, and we can't have Colin Curtis, Kevin Russo, and Chad Huffman be our only pinch-hit options
Especially if Thames isn’t back for a while.
If he can be signed for a reasonable amount then why not?
"We're only going to score 17 points?" - Tom Brady
"Well played, Mauer." - Guy from PS3 commercials
That’s always been the problem with Dye. His salary demands are not at the level of a bench player who can’t play the field.
His only real skill is to be pop off the bench, or being a platoon DH, and some team may sign him hoping to catch lightning in a bottle and have him hit a few home runs, but he has so far been unwilling to take a contract that suits his ability and likelihood to contribute.
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by Lord Duggan on Jun 30, 2010 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions
This isn't an awful idea I don't think
The guy is a proven hitter.. just not an excellent defensive player. I don’t think he’ll sign cheap though
In Jeter, We trust.
For the record, I'm not upset with how the Yankees' season has gone.
I’ve been to four straight losses though so that’s starting to bug me lol.. two straight shutouts that javier happened oppose the mets and tonight the mariners
In Jeter, We trust.
So, guys, where's LeBron going?
"We're only going to score 17 points?" - Tom Brady
"Well played, Mauer." - Guy from PS3 commercials
at least it puts off Farve for a couple weeks
KEEP LEE!!!
by FreeBradshaw on Jul 1, 2010 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions
They're going to be disappointed when the Red Sox don't sign him
"We're only going to score 17 points?" - Tom Brady
"Well played, Mauer." - Guy from PS3 commercials
speaking of Boston
the Celtics are currently over $20 million under the cap with Sheed retiring, Ray Ray and Pierce not on the books
KEEP LEE!!!
by FreeBradshaw on Jul 1, 2010 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Not really 20 mill. under
I thought so too, but there is this guy on the Celts blog, who apparently follows this
cap stuff very very closely. I was ready to reply and call him the “salary capologist”.
His mother has a tattoo that reads, "Son".
Sharks have a week dedicated to HIM.
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Stay thirsty my friends."
by Great Gatsby on Jul 1, 2010 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions
http://hoopshype.com/salaries/boston.htm
I dunno what to believe, but this site is usually right. You take off Sheed’s retiring money as well, that leaves you at about $35.5mil (cap is $56mil. Sure, you gotta add in Avery Bradley’s rookie salary, but its really not like that’s a big amounst (2-4 mill, tops)
KEEP LEE!!!
No on Dye
find a veteran left handed bat for the bench, Thames is already getting rehab at bats
at AAA, should be back very soon.
His mother has a tattoo that reads, "Son".
Sharks have a week dedicated to HIM.
"It doesn't take more than one person, to talk to a woman.
Stay thirsty my friends."
This isn't happening.
As stated before, Dye would definitely not accept a deal to be a bench player. He wants to start. Plus didn’t they play the “pick the righthanded power hitter off the scrap heap” game a few years ago when they got Richie Sexson? How well did that work out?
I guess if Dye would accept a bench role, sure why not pick him up. But I doubt he would. Someone suggested Giambi before. If he’s okay with playing off the bench that might actually be an idea, his swing is still perfect for this Stadium.
Did you know Joe Morgan thinks Cano will win a batting title one day?
Dye ...
If he’s in any kind of playing shape why not. We could certainly use alittle bench help and a real DH. Johnson isn’t likely to come back, and if he does it will only be for an hour and a half before he’s hurt again. Right now we are pretty thin, and our power numbers are down. Dye is a professional hitter who I assume can still hit.
As for bullpen help … We’ve been extremely inconsistent up to this point and I might start looking for fire sale giveaways. I certainly wouldn’t break the bank — especially when we have a number of great arms in AAA, AA.
"Baseball is the background music of my life." -George Will
aren't the yanks in 1st
why go after the old FA, lets just watch the kids play, if they fall alittle it will only benefit the team in the long run. Get the guys important ABs now, then in seasons to come they will be ready to perform
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