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Francisco Cervelli a Yankee Worth Hating?

Francisco Cervelli's first pumps are becoming a source of irritation -- at least for a few disgruntled Yankee-haters.

Hatred for Francisco Cervelli? This just cannot be allowed to stand.

At least one Yankee-hating blogger has come out and ripped the fist-pumping and fiery theatrics of Pinstripe Alley's Yankee muse.

Check out this diatribe from 'The Legend of Cecilio Guante.'

I have a new favorite Yankee to hate. And by favorite, I mean one who gets under your skin and boils your blood more than any other. Francisco is Johnny Bench, Mike Piazza and Benito Santiago all rolled into one -- at least in his own mind. He's also a gnat. He's the type of player you love to hate. And, no, I wouldn't want him on my team. I know how the saying goes. Oh, he's one you can't stand if he's playing against you, but you love him if he's in the uniform of your favorite team. No. No way. Cervelli is not David Eckstein. Eck could be on my team any day of the week and twice on Sunday. The Great Gazoo , on the other hand, I wouldn't want anywhere near the clubhouse.

The reasons are clear for anyone who's watched this 24 year-old kid play. He's over-exuberant, cocky, theatrical and antagonistic. No matter if it's the fourth inning of a game they're losing, the seventh inning of a blowout win or the top of the first, Francisco is fist-pumping and primal screaming on every inning-ending strikeout. If he throws someone out at second? Well, then be prepared for an even more enthusiastic celebration. The Terminator has eliminated you, Mr. Baserunner, and he will now show you up in his home plate mini-dance, fist-pump, animal roar routine.

You Yankees fans sitting there claiming sour grapes on a good, young player? You've got the second part right. From what I've seen, Cervelli is undoubtedly talented and the heir apparent to Jorge. He could learn a few things from Posada, though, on what it means to be a professional. I'm all for enthusiasm, but Cervelli's routine borders on amateur hour.

So, Yankee fans, what say you? Are Francisco's emotional ruminations behind home plate over the top? Is he turning into a Yankee version of A.J. Pierzynski, the universally hated Chicago White Sox catcher? Or, is this just an enthusiastic young player reacting the only way he knows how?

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it never once crossed my mind that his "antics" were show boating

but i could see how it might be taken that way… the way i see it is that he is a young kid who really enjoys the game and plays it like its his last. I doubt he ever goes home at night and wishes he had given more during that day’s game…

by GriffMan on Jun 21, 2010 7:12 AM EDT reply actions  

I see someone

who enjoys playing the game and is not afraid to show his enthusiasm. The writer is a confessed Yankee hater (Brooklyn Dodger blood) who in the same column attacks Paul O’Neill and then displays his ignorance by saying that Cervelli is obviously Posada’s successor. You are giving him way too much print space.

Mickey C

by Mickey C on Jun 21, 2010 7:53 AM EDT reply actions  

Quite Possibly

I just figured this was a post that might generate a good discussion.

by Ed Valentine on Jun 21, 2010 8:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Please

The writer is a Yankee hater. I don’t think he is the 2nd coming of A.J. Pierzynski , that is
a big gnat, and antagonistic too. Ceclio Guante? Wasn’t he a pitcher for the Pirates back in the day.

His mother has a tattoo that reads, "Son".
He is the life of the party, even when he doesn't attend.
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Stay thirsty my friends."

by Great Gatsby on Jun 21, 2010 8:16 AM EDT reply actions  

Ah Met fans....

I think there’s more intelligence on Mars.

KEEP LEE!!!

by FreeBradshaw on Jun 21, 2010 8:23 AM EDT reply actions  

Marvin Martian called

He’s insulted to be mentioned in same sentence as Mets fans. He’s warming up the Illudium232 Space Modulator and coming after you.

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by tnredneckyankeesfan on Jun 21, 2010 8:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh yes, this guy is absolutely right

We prefer our sporting events to be enacted in the most dull and unexciting way possible. As such, any demonstration of enthusiasm of any kind must be completely off limits, and any player caught enjoying the game must be DFA’d on the spot!
DFA CERVELLI!!!!!!!!!
/sarcasm

by pastor2b on Jun 21, 2010 9:09 AM EDT reply actions  

Eckstein?

Why would you want someone who is mediocre at best on your team?

by Mongo314 on Jun 21, 2010 9:42 AM EDT reply actions  

Because people who write about sports, especially those who want “character” over “skill” on their favorite team for the “clubhouse chemistry”, have no idea what they’re talking about.

by Lord Duggan on Jun 21, 2010 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

All this angst..

For a backup catcher? He’s not even the heir aparent to Jorge. I don’t get it.

by RuBiCaNT on Jun 21, 2010 9:50 AM EDT reply actions  

why are sports fans like this?

I admit, there are athletes and teams that I hate, but I can’t imagine expending this much energy hating a part-time, even if he played for my most-hated team. Can’t you just root for your team and not worry if the other team gets excited when they succeed? I guess what I’m asking is, why h8ers gotta h8?

by long time listener on Jun 21, 2010 10:03 AM EDT reply actions  

h8ers

Hard to root for teams that don’t win. Might as well h8 I guess =/

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by Y.t. Crooks on Jun 21, 2010 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

This would be akin to one of the mods here writing an article about how Darnell McDonald’s tattoos are a disgrace to the game. But, we have something better to do, like write about things that are relevant and make sense.

by Lord Duggan on Jun 21, 2010 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

"Relevant and make sense"

Ha. Speak for yourself, newbie.

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by jscape2000 on Jun 21, 2010 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wish we had Darnell McDonald

I have so many Old McDonald jokes in reserve for game threads.

by long time listener on Jun 21, 2010 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

His nickname is Filet-o-fish.
I call him DMac

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by bestbostonsports on Jun 21, 2010 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thats cause the Pawsox have this thing where like everyone has tattos.

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by bestbostonsports on Jun 21, 2010 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

silly these days

This author has his blinders on. Celebratory actions are (and have been) becoming more and more prevalent in all sports. This isn’t the 1940’s. If he wants to cry into his beer about some fist pumps then maybe he should pick a different sport to be a fan of.

As the title of his article suggests, he was just looking for a Yankee to hate (and some page views for his blog). Cervelli is a perfect target as he does not fit the usual bill (ie, free agent) of what the Yankees are usually hated for. This author is mad that Yankees have big name players combined with youth …. cause it’s awesome, and he knows it.

Cervelli may not be the Yankees catcher of the future, but, watching him play this year (and last) is very exiting. It brings joy to me as a Yankee fan …. and as we all well know, anything that brings joy to Yankee fans must be hated by all the other baseball fans. It is just simply popular to hate us …..

by jelw on Jun 21, 2010 10:39 AM EDT reply actions  

I dont hate Cervelli, I actully like him, I think hes a good catcher.

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by bestbostonsports on Jun 21, 2010 10:44 AM EDT reply actions  

He's just a kid

Enjoying the game and showing his enthusiasm. There really isn’t anything wrong with it. What I dislike are the contrived, pre-planned ‘look at me’ celebrations. Raw shows of emotion are fine.

by Ed Valentine on Jun 21, 2010 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree. Cervelli’s a guy I liked last year too.
I would say Joba has those “pre-planned” celabrations ;)

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by bestbostonsports on Jun 21, 2010 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think whoever took the time to write that is an idiot.

I can understand Joba’s antics being a little over-the-top to other fans, but Francisco Cervelli? He’s a young player that is very enthusiastic and a team player. He’s not even boasting himself.. he’s excited that the TEAM got out of a jam. Is it not ok to show any emotion anymore? All players have to be strictly professional?

The Yankees do it better than almost anyone else when it comes to doing things professionally. We’ve seen other players such as Papelbon and Francisco Rodriguez have ridiculous celebrations when they complete three outs after letting up a run or two. They must be Gods compared to Francisco Cervelli though!!!

Give me a break. Grow up and stop whinning about it.

In Jeter, We trust.

by Chris McKeown on Jun 21, 2010 10:56 AM EDT reply actions  

From the bleachers

I always see Cervelli stretching out in front of the bullpen in right-centerfield. He even stretches with enthusiasm and always has a pep in his step. In no way does he try to show up the other team.

In Jeter, We trust.

by Chris McKeown on Jun 21, 2010 10:57 AM EDT reply actions  

This is why

I hate some fans, a player shows general enthusiasm for his team, shows he’s actually happy out there playing a game, and he’s ripped for it. I’m sorry I’d rather have a team of Cervelli’s out there showing heart, and actually having a good time, rather than a bunch of D-Bags, showing up and collecting a check.

"He needs to pitch in a higher league, if there is one. Ban him from baseball. He should be illegal."
—Tom Kelly, manager of Minnesota Twins, after his team faced Rivera

by DarthRichter on Jun 21, 2010 11:27 AM EDT reply actions  

showing HEART?

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by bestbostonsports on Jun 21, 2010 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

interesting I get critizied when saying that

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by bestbostonsports on Jun 21, 2010 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s simple. “Heart” is a way for people who don’t know what they’re talking about to draw conclusions that aren’t based in anything factual, and then act like it’s a legitimate argument.

As evidenced by the bozo in the article saying “Eck (David Eckstein) could be on my team any day of the week and twice on Sunday” because of how much “heart” he has. Anyone living in the world of facts would respond by saying “David Eckstein isn’t good at baseball.”

Cervelli brings good defensive ability behind the plate, good handling of pitchers, and the ability to slap singles around and occasionally put on in the gap, but please spare me the talk of “heart.”

by Lord Duggan on Jun 21, 2010 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ok I meant Heart

In the sense he actually cares about his job. Doesn’t seem like he’s just jogging around the bases, and actually enjoys the game.

"He needs to pitch in a higher league, if there is one. Ban him from baseball. He should be illegal."
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by DarthRichter on Jun 21, 2010 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wasn’t criticizing you, man.

by Lord Duggan on Jun 21, 2010 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

but you were me?

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by bestbostonsports on Jun 21, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, just making a general point.

by Lord Duggan on Jun 21, 2010 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh ok

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by bestbostonsports on Jun 21, 2010 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I got you

Just felt the need to clarify cause I too feel heart gets thrown around as intangible too much.

"He needs to pitch in a higher league, if there is one. Ban him from baseball. He should be illegal."
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by DarthRichter on Jun 21, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

Duggan never ceases to amaze me. However Cervelli is not even comparable to Eckstein.

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by Chris McKeown on Jun 21, 2010 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

He'll probably tone it down a bit as he gets older, but for now, why should he?

He’s 24. People didn’t expect him to get too much playing time and now he’s playing great. He’s excited, let him show it.

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by Edgware on Jun 21, 2010 11:36 AM EDT reply actions  

Regardless of what team you root for, complaining about someone showing emotion is stupid. And it’s not even like Cervelli is Valverde, where it’s so over the top is comical (and I don’t even have a problem with Valverde). But actually writing an article about Cervelli’s fist pumps behind the plate, and how much they screw with your tiny little world elicit only one response from me:

by Lord Duggan on Jun 21, 2010 11:39 AM EDT reply actions  

lol

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by bestbostonsports on Jun 21, 2010 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

damn that thing's on fire

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by Edgware on Jun 21, 2010 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

+1 to the Wambulance

Well played, Duggan.

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by Chris McKeown on Jun 21, 2010 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

He is out version

of Nate Robinson in the NBA. No one has All Star expectations of him, come in, make some plays and raise the energy level out there. There is nothing wrong with that.

by ryanwk628 on Jun 21, 2010 12:07 PM EDT reply actions  

This is coming from someone with K-Rod on his team?

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by groot on Jun 21, 2010 12:08 PM EDT reply actions  

+1

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by tnredneckyankeesfan on Jun 21, 2010 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

good point

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by bestbostonsports on Jun 21, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL hating on Cervelli

don’t be surprised if the guy writes an article next week and includes that a mysterious lightning bolt has hit the roof of his house.

In all seriousness, I see no problem with him showing enthusiasm and having fun. All players are different. This guy supports the Mets, and supports K-Rod, who goes on his knees and points to the sky praying to God. And now Cervelli is considered “cocky and unprofessional” because he pumps his fist when there’s a big play? Thats ridiculous.

When I played I was an emotional player (both for positive and negative times). A lot of the pros are emotional as well. So not everybody is like Joe Torre or Mariano Rivera, who have the exact same expression on their face no matter what the situation is. He’s allowed to have fun. I know it’s at a professional level, but baseball is still a game, and the main point of the game is for FUN! If Cervelli is having fun and playing well, then there’s no problem.

Seriously, this guy should stay indoors and away from all objects that conduct electricity during a lightning storm for the next month. Because if I were Cervelli, I would NOT be pleased with this article.

by nyyrocks29 on Jun 21, 2010 12:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Are you suggesting that Cervelli can control the weather?

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by Y.t. Crooks on Jun 21, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Shhhh...

He might hear you…

In Jeter, We trust.

by Chris McKeown on Jun 21, 2010 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

These haters are just atheists. They’ll be alright.

by david d on Jun 21, 2010 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

http://www.legendofcecilioguante.com/2010/06/my-new-favorite-yankee-to-hate.html

Feel free to comment and let him know how arrogant he is

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by Chris McKeown on Jun 21, 2010 1:07 PM EDT reply actions  

I seen this yesterday

I asked on the Mets blog why they hate Cervelli so much, and I dunno who it was or how but I got linked to this article.

They’re a bitter fanbase. Many of them are so bitter, that they’re clouded judgment doesn’t even allow them to hate the right people.

They hate the new Yankee Stadium, most likely cuz the Yanks were smart enough to not change the dimensions of their field, and field a team that can play in it. They’re jealous since their organization is so stupid despite its financial advantages.

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by FreeBradshaw on Jun 21, 2010 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

my favorite part of the new Shea Stadium is all the Dodgers/Giants nostalgia

I know they changed it (or I’ve heard; I only went last year), but still, you guys know you aren’t the Dodgers or the Giants, right?

by long time listener on Jun 21, 2010 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why give this guy attention?

He looks like a fairly obvious troll to me.

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by WhiteWinterHymnal on Jun 21, 2010 1:47 PM EDT reply actions  

This is absurd.

He is not that bad. It’s not like he breaks out into a jig after every strike/strikeout.

by CAyankeesfan on Jun 21, 2010 2:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh, I don't know...

Like Valverde? I wouldn’t be surprised to see him break out a vuvuzela after every K.

by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jun 21, 2010 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

hes not cocky

i can understand why his antics would be called showboaty, or be found offensive, but he isnt cocky. he doesnt talk trash, except to the batter, (but thats not uncommon among catchers) and he keeps his mouth shut otherwise. hes a good catcher who gets into the game. i dont mind it when players do that, i dont are if they point to the sky after a hit, or cross themselves after a home run, or fist pump after a strike out. i dont like joba, but not for that reason. i dont care when other teams do it, like francisco rodriguez. i think its adds to the game more then it takes away.

עם ישראל חי

by nodisrespect on Jun 21, 2010 4:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Cervelli a new yankee to hate!?

Its absurd to even consider that! the way I look at it is that Cervelli is using his skills from behind the plate, with hughes, cc, aj, etc. to out wit the batter. Is it such a crime that when he gets a big strikeout he does a fist pump? i think not and plus ive seen alot worse from K-rod’s premature celebrations that turned into a blown saves via luis castillo and let us not forger jose valverde’s fist pump per K. If you hate cervelli then your on your own because he’s a fan favorite with that “melky-esk” attitude that everyone loves about him. He will be a good catcher for the yankees once posada calls it a career. That is until we see Jesus Montero or Austine Romine start making headlines and being called up.

by B_ry1085 on Jun 21, 2010 5:00 PM EDT reply actions  

get over it.

how bout we tell him about k-rod, not that i hate him, but he does do a over exaggerated version of the joba fist-pump (which this guy hates as well). Cervelli is a good young kid who gets excited, he isnt showboating or being cocky, he is getting excited. who cares if he shows emotion. that mets fan has a lot to talk about with k-rod’s 30+ second celebrations after a save.

"Now that you taste it, you just want to keep doing it again." - A-Rod on Winning the World Series.

by donnybaseball23 on Jun 21, 2010 5:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Hater much?

If you were talking about Joba, I wouldn’t care but Fransico is a great catcher and he has the right to do his fist pumping while Joba doesn’t. :D

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by Givemereason on Jun 21, 2010 5:58 PM EDT reply actions  

String him up

And light the torches, damnation

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by cashman bashman on Jun 21, 2010 6:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Respectfully,

That blogger can blow me…

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by NYYWinsRings27 on Jun 21, 2010 7:23 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Please! Like you wouldn’t take a backup catcher who’s hitting almost .300 with 30 ribs in just 42 hits, no homers, (that’s as clutch as any superstar in the game right now) an obp of .375, a cannon for an arm and passion for the game. He’s played the equivalent of 30 games with 42 hits.
He’s young and enthusiastic (the latter you obviously aren’t) If you knew a thimble full about sports, you’d know most players play poorly when irritated. I’ve roomied with 2 former NBA players. It’s called getting in their head…and it works often. I don’t even think he does it for that reason, I think he’s just passionate about baseball, go put on a Yankee uniform and play for the greatest pro sports franchaise in history, I’ll give you $350,000 to do it and see if you aren’t walking on air your first year? Well, everyone but you of course. I respect guys who bleed their teams colors, but not to a point they sound plain stupid in their hatred of good players. I’m a Yankee fan and I think Big Papi was great and played the game with style. I respect good baseball, regardless of the jersey on the man.

by Bronxboy46 on Jun 21, 2010 7:49 PM EDT reply actions  

What you don't know about baseball...

Please! Like you wouldn’t take a backup catcher who’s hitting almost .300 with 30 ribs in just 42 hits, no homers, (that’s as clutch as any superstar in the game right now) an obp of .375, a cannon for an arm and passion for the game.
He’s young and enthusiastic (the latter you obviously aren’t) If you knew a thimble full about sports, you’d know most players play poorly when irritated. I’ve roomied with 2 former NBA players. It’s called getting in their head…and it works often. I don’t even think he does it for that reason, I think he’s just passionate about baseball, go put on a Yankee uniform and play for the greatest pro sports franchaise in history, I’ll give you $350,000 to do it and see if you aren’t walking on air your first year? Well, everyone but you of course. I respect guys who bleed their teams colors, but not to a point they sound plain stupid in their hatred of good players. I’m a Yankee fan and I think Big Papi was great and played the game with style. I respect good baseball, regardless of the jersey on the man.

by Bronxboy46 on Jun 21, 2010 7:49 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Wow...that blogger sucks. Just like the Mets.

Seriously, you’re saving all your ire for the backup catcher?
What, the batboy escaped your eye? The peanut vendor in section 323?
How lame are you?

Like you wouldn’t trade whatever pile of piss-poor DNA you have as the back up catcher for Cervelli?

Oh, and by the way. Mackey motherfocking Sasser.
Fit that around whatever lodged in the Mets’ throats three and two years ago.

Bitter, table for one? We’re ready to seat you.

by mrljdavid on Jun 21, 2010 8:33 PM EDT reply actions  

emotion

i look at it like this if its ok for joba than its ok for cervelli. if its a problem for one then its a problem for both since they are both really young guys getting to play a major part on the best franchise in baseball. all i ask for is consistency on the emotion factor. i dont think joba was planned when he was successful.

by leonard b on Jun 22, 2010 5:11 AM EDT reply actions  

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