True All Stars
by phonty on Jun 2, 2010 7:46 AM EDT
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PrintIn light of the All Star Game being somewhat meaningless and meaningful at the same time, I'm curious how the PA readers and posters would go about selecting a true all star team for both leagues with no regards to general popularity. I would venture to say that even if preference of statistics used varied from person to person, we would get a team for both leagues that would truly be the best in baseball in July of 2010.
I'll be honest, I have trouble making sense of all the information on Baseball-Reference.com, but I would love to see what everyone comes up with for teams that would truly be the all star teams of 2010.
But, here's my selections, as who I think the best players in the AL and NL are that should be All-Stars (by no means is this comprehensive, just some of my selections if I were choosing based on stats alone):
American League
C - Joe Mauer (who else?)
1B - Miguel Cabrera / Justin Morneau
2B - Robinson Cano
3B - Evan Longoria
SS - Elvis Andrus / Derek Jeter
DH - Vlad Guerrero
OF - Austin Jackson / Nick Markakis / Magglio Ordonez / Ichiro / Nick Swisher / Vernon Wells
Pitching:
Ricky Romero (AL Strikeout Leader)
Phil Hughes / Clay Buchholz / Andy Pettitte (ERA leader) / David Price
Jon Lester
National League
C - Ivan Rodriguez / Carlos Ruiz
1B - Albert Pujols / Joey Votto
2B - Martin Prado
3B - David Freese
SS - Troy Tulowitzki
OF - Jonny Gomes / Matt Holliday / Carlos Gonzalez
DH - Josh Willingham
Pitching:
Ubaldo Jimenez / Tim Lincecum / Roy Halladay / Dan Haren
Feel free to add or replace anyone. I'll admit these are all based on standard offensive stats for the position players and standard pitching stats. I don't imagine any position players I've named would be said to have terrible defensive skills (some possible unknowns in the NL).
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I think there's 35 roster spots for each side now
so go crazy
"What's your plan?? Rob Fort Knox on elephant back? That's the dumbest thing I ever heard....."
He may lead the league in K's
but also leads the league in homers and hits and has a 4.83 ERA. He’s been pretty terrible this year
good point
Though, maybe if he were used in relief, those Ks might be useful in shorter appearances in the AS game?
Yeah
but you dont put a guy in the AS game if he doesn’t deserve it just because his K’s could be useful in relief
Mike Pelfrey deserves to be on that list too.
Behind Doc, Ubaldo and I guess Lincecum, Pelfrey is probably the 4th best starter in the NL this year. Way more deserving then Haren to put it lightly.
Which is all the more laughable that people even suggested that there’s “something wrong with the Yankees bats” when they couldn’t hit this guy. He’s very good.
"What's your plan?? Rob Fort Knox on elephant back? That's the dumbest thing I ever heard....."
Barry Zito
Adam Wainwright..hell, even everyone’s favorite Roy Oswalt does. Yea, Oswalt is 3-7, but that’s a testament to why pitcher wins is one of the worst stats you can find, cuz its not at all Oswalt’s fault he’s 3-7.
"What's your plan?? Rob Fort Knox on elephant back? That's the dumbest thing I ever heard....."
by FreeBradshaw on Jun 2, 2010 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions
hmmm...
Josh Johnson, Heath Bell, Carlos Marmol. Matt Capps
"What's your plan?? Rob Fort Knox on elephant back? That's the dumbest thing I ever heard....."
by FreeBradshaw on Jun 2, 2010 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Ryan Zimmerman should be the starting 3B
Scott Rolen his backup.
Jason Heyward, Jason Werth, Ryan Braun, Matt Kemp…I’d probably take those 4 over the ones you mentioned. Probably Alfonso Soriano too
"What's your plan?? Rob Fort Knox on elephant back? That's the dumbest thing I ever heard....."
probably him over Matt Holliday
But those 4 that I mentioned, Andre Either if he’s able to play and Colby Rasmus over McCutchen.
"What's your plan?? Rob Fort Knox on elephant back? That's the dumbest thing I ever heard....."
by FreeBradshaw on Jun 2, 2010 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Willingham also
he’s probably the only NL OF he’s got that’s I’d put on there.
"What's your plan?? Rob Fort Knox on elephant back? That's the dumbest thing I ever heard....."
by FreeBradshaw on Jun 2, 2010 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Girardi
Better pick alot of Yankees after Joe Maddon picked all his sucky Rays. 5 of the 15 reserves were rays. Pena, Zobrist, and Bartlett are not All Stars idc what they say.
Nah Cabrera > Morneau
He always under-rated and he’s having a better year (hrs, rbis) than Morneau who has a higher avg and obp
Pudge?
Ivan Rodriguez is undoubtedly one of the best catchers of all-time and, to my surprise, actually leads the NL in batting average for catchers. However, I like Miguel Olivo as a catcher in the All-Star game. He has hit for moderate power and has been a run producer for the Rockies. His on-base is nearly .400 as well.
We can sit here all day and talk statistics for who is better when it comes to Miguel Cabrera or Justin Morneau. But think of it this way… if the game is on the line.. who would you rather be at the plate for you? Miguel Cabrera or Justin Morneau?
I think I’ll take Cabrera
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