Rival Staffs (Part 1 of 7): Boston Red Sox
Today's mood music choices: California Dreamin' Cover by Eddie Hazel and I've Seen All Good People by Yes. As always, feel free to leave comments on my mood music choices, or to offer suggestions for future picks. [This is kind of a long post, so I figured I'd give you all two songs to enjoy]
For a little backstory, I have been asked to take a look at how the Yankees starting rotation matches up against the starting rotations of some other contenders. I was going to make this all into one post, but there's just way too much information to fully condense it into one post without resorting to some serious oversimplification (or the worst, the Edge: Yankees or Edge: Red Sox drivel). If both teams have good rotations, there are no clear cut, definitive "edges."
Analyzing and comparing pitching staffs is a many layered, complicated, and difficult thing to do, and in many cases, there are many different conclusions to be drawn, and frankly, a fair amount of guesswork and speculation. So, what I'm going to try and do is accumulate as much data as possible, present it as coherently as I can, try and draw some reasonable conclusions, and then leave it up to discussion.
I have selected the Red Sox, Rays, Phillies, Cardinals, Twins, Angels, and Rangers as contenders worthy of looking at (Sorry Reds, Tigers, Jays, Padres, Dodgers, and Braves fans. Call me a hater if you want to), and I'm going to present them in alphabetical order by city to avoid having to "rank" them (this is something I also find lame). This also gives the added boon of being able to do the Red Sox first to stir up some interest.
Sound reasonable? Good. I figure just about everybody here is already familiar with the Yankees rotation, so I'm going to talk about the Sox after the jump.
I'm not going to lie, my thoughts at the beginning of the year were pretty wrong about the Boston Red Sox. I heard the "pitching and defense" mantra from ESPN and their lackeys, and thought that Theo Epstein was trying to build a "run prevention" team to show everyone how smart he is and reinvent the wheel. As I equate a small ball, low scoring philosophy with losses, defeat, and failure, I was pretty thrilled to hear that Boston was going to make this turn. But Theo's real offseason plan was to get the best available talent on his team in the short term, while they wait for some of their higher prospects to step up in the coming years (Reddick, Westmoreland, Kelly, Anderson, etc.) to provide cheap production to mix in with free agents, and the best talent available was in the pitching and defense areas, so that's what they got.
Oh, and the Red Sox lead the league in runs scored are second in the league in runs scored (we thank you, Astros pitching), so just wash all of that "run prevention" drivel right out of your brain. The Red Sox main bugaboo this season has been in what was perceived to be their greatest strength, the rotation. Let me elaborate by cherry picking a few telling stats and facts:
John Lackey: 4.54 ERA, 4.71 FIP, 4.87 K/9
Josh Beckett: 7.29 ERA, 4.51 FIP, still is yet to throw off a mound since the lower back strain.
Daisuke Matsuzaka: Consistently inconsistent, back to the DL, right forearm strain.
Tim Wakefield: 5.42 ERA, 4.72 FIP, 2.98 BB/9, has split time between the rotation and bullpen.
Those are some serious struggles from some quality arms, and speaks to how the Sox offense has been carrying the team, as well as the depth in the pitching. As I've bolded, John Lackey just hasn't been striking anybody out this year. The velocity has been there, but the location, and the sharpness of the off-speed pitches is not where it's been in the past. Beckett and Daisuke have been inconsistent at best, and are both currently on the DL, and Wakefield has been hit or miss, but I was impressed at the way he's been limiting his free passes.
The starters who have been pulling their weight? Jon Lester and Clay Buchholz, who have both been fantastic, but let's go a little bit more in depth with their results so far, Buchholz in particular:
Buchholz: 2.52 ERA, 3.59 FIP, 5.72 K/9, 4.2% HR/FB, 0.34 HR/9.
Buchholz has pitched 6 out of his 12 games in the friendly home run hitting confines of Fenway Park, and will continue to pitch there, so I'm not buying his continuing to post such low home run ratios. He's due for some regression to the mean, and a few pop ups landing Over The Monster. Added to his rather low K rates, and I think we can expect that anemic ERA to be on the rise. But with that said, he has been all the Sox could expect and more, and is looking like he's going to develop in to a very solid top of the rotation arm.
Jon Lester: 3.18 ERA, 3.09 FIP, 9.42 K/9
I bolded all of them because he's really good (not CC good, in case anyone's down for the "Best Lefty in Baseball" chat). Lester strikes guys out, doesn't give up walks, and really hasn't been over-performing his peripherals.
The Red Sox are an excellent team, and have hung around in a very tough division with some important players performing way below expected levels (Lackey, Beckett, early season Ortiz, Pedroia to some extent), but have all of the necessary pieces in place to go on a run. Also, with Jawsh and Dice-K on the DL, Wakefield is in the rotation as well as possibly Boof Bonser or the MLB debut of Adam Mills (2.97 FIP in 31 innings for the PawSox).
I tried to be as objective as possible, and not let the rivalry get in the way of getting the facts out there. What do you think, what are your feelings on the Sox rotation? And if there are any Sox fans stopping by, feel free to get in there.
Next: The Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim
[Disclaimer, if I see any CC>Lester, AJ=Buch, Pettitte>Lackey, Hughes>EVERYONE, Edge Yankees nonsense, I'm bringing the delete hammer]
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Nice post
You have a lot of good solid facts in there. Keep up the good work!
Bunghholz has got great stuff
so I don’t think its out of the question for him to keep it up there. The ERA may go up, but the K rate may go up too, dude’s legit.
Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeit
I’m not questioning his legitness. I’m questioning his 4.2 HR/FB%. That’s at AJax levels of unsustainability.
by Lord Duggan on Jun 14, 2010 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions

Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeit
by FreeBradshaw on Jun 14, 2010 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I laughed so freakin hard when I saw this!
I had to take a pic of it and send it to a buddy. This movie is a classic, and the pic is perfect!
mornin blevs!
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by FreeBradshaw on Jun 14, 2010 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Nice job, Duggan.
I guess it’s no big secret that the rotation helped to dig the hole the Red Sox got themselves in early this year. I’m kind of surprised they’ve been able to erase some of that deficit without Beckett and Lackey being in top form. Not that I’m complaining, of course.
Looking forward to the posts that follow. Loved the California Dreamin’ cover; good choice.
by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jun 14, 2010 10:10 PM EDT reply actions
Yeah Eddie Hazel is one of my favorite guitarists. He rips it up in that one.
by Lord Duggan on Jun 14, 2010 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes, good music choices this time. Especially the California Dreamin' cover.
He was burnin that neck up.
"When my time on Earth is gone, and my activities here are past, I want they bury me upside down so all my critics can kiss my a**"- Bob Knight
"Talent is God-given, be grateful. Fame is man-given, be humble. Conceit is self-given, be careful."- John Wooden
"Never take anything for granted. Don't forget, great prices have been paid and will be paid again if you become too smug, too egotistical and self-assured."- Johnny Cash
by JumpinJackFlash on Jun 14, 2010 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions
It was so good.
iPod worthy, I think.
by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jun 15, 2010 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions
This is bugging me, so I have to ask in case someone knows.
I have heard the Yes song before, I think. At least some parts of it. Maybe in a commercial or something? Any idea what I’m talking about?
by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jun 15, 2010 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions
I think I've heard it before but can't remember where.
"When my time on Earth is gone, and my activities here are past, I want they bury me upside down so all my critics can kiss my a**"- Bob Knight
"Talent is God-given, be grateful. Fame is man-given, be humble. Conceit is self-given, be careful."- John Wooden
"Never take anything for granted. Don't forget, great prices have been paid and will be paid again if you become too smug, too egotistical and self-assured."- Johnny Cash
by JumpinJackFlash on Jun 15, 2010 1:09 AM EDT up reply actions
I actually didn't listen to it before...
(it’s not half bad). But it doesn’t sound commercial familiar to me.
by CAyankeesfan on Jun 15, 2010 1:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Chase Ink credit card
has been using that killer Yes song in their ads… these ads have been running during Yankee telecasts. Keep the classic rock and prog rock coming Duggan
I feel their staff is going to get better
when (and/or if) Beckett gets healthy and Lackey becomes more consistent. They’ve been feeling the effects of injuries which hasn’t helped “run prevention” when forced to run out inept outfielders as replacements for Cameron and Ellsbury.
Some things...
1. Does K/9 = Ks per nine innings pitched?
2. Actually, after reading this, I’m surprised that they’re doing so well despite those injuries.
3. I like this idea, I’m glad you’re doing it.
4. I actually know one of those songs! But, I like the original better.
1. Yes it does
2. I felt the same way
3. I’m glad you like it
4. OK, definitely more mood music to come
by Lord Duggan on Jun 14, 2010 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Great job, I really look forward to the next installment
by YankeesJets on Jun 14, 2010 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks man, the Angels are next. I might get started tomorrow, we’ll see how motivated I’m feeling. 7 posts might end up falling under “biting off more than I can chew” and I start to really half ass it by the time I get to the Rays and Rangers.
by Lord Duggan on Jun 14, 2010 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions
like ordering a gooey duck and you expected a steamer
word app
Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeit
by FreeBradshaw on Jun 14, 2010 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m a little confused by your tactics, but Imma keep actin tough till I figure it out.
But seriously, I’ve got no idea what you’re talking about.
by Lord Duggan on Jun 14, 2010 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL!
Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeit
by FreeBradshaw on Jun 14, 2010 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions
The Angels should have been the first. Anaheim starts with the letter 'A.'
by designatedquitter on Jun 15, 2010 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions
I went with Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim…..
by Lord Duggan on Jun 15, 2010 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, hey, that was a good guess of mine.
Lackey compared to Lester is quite something.
by CAyankeesfan on Jun 14, 2010 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, Lester has always been a better strikeout pitcher, but Lackey’s K numbers are way down this year (career 7.08 K/9)
by Lord Duggan on Jun 14, 2010 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions
What do you think the chances of them getting to a place where they are firing on all cylinders are?
by WhatwouldJeterdo on Jun 14, 2010 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I expect Beckett to come back and contribute, he’s way too good not to. I don’t expect much from Dice-K and Wakefield. The make or break for them is going to be Lackey.
If Lackey can go from mediocre to a solid #2 or #3, he doesn’t have to dominate, but just step it up a few notches, they’re going to be very tough to beat. If I were to handicap it, I’d go about 50/50, because I think Lackey is a good pitcher, but I have been pretty thoroughly unimpressed with him so far this season, despite some of the flashes he’s shown.
by Lord Duggan on Jun 14, 2010 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Nice post
Although the Red Sox still won’t make the playoffs.
I think the Red Sox rotation is way too top heavy, and way too injury prone, and way too inconsistent. The names in the rotation are nice. Beckett, Lackey, Lester, people think those are three aces when it’s all said and done.
But when you look at it more closely, it’s actually not that impressive. Lackey’s ERA, with the exception of a couple “ace type” seasons, has been closer to 4 than 3 and he is always inconsistent, and always an injury risk. Beckett has had a total of ONE solid regular season with the Red Sox where he won 20 games. 2006 his ERA was above 5, 2008 he was always hurt, and last year he fell apart, and went from having a Cy Young year to a simple, solid season. Nothing wrong with that, except that he’s supposed to put “Ace type” numbers.
And after those top three, you have Buchholtz, an excellent young pitcher but who hasn’t been proven in pressure situations at all (no real playoff experience, I think thats really important). You have Wakefield, who is old as hell and is hittable more often than no these days. And you have some guys in the minor leagues, like Bonser (who is a joke), and some guy who has never pitched in the majors before.
See the difference here? You go from a solid but sometimes inconsistent top four to absolutely nobody after that. People talk about the fact that the Red Sox have a lot of pitching depth, but I actually don’t think they have it. Their rotation definitely has weak points, and could hurt them as much as it could help them. They don’t have consistency like the Yankees and Rays do, and the Red Sox pitching is far more injury prone than that of the Yankees and Rays. Those are just a few things I observed.
Nice post, you are becoming my favorite writer on here (sorry Travis, Ed, and jscape, and the other guys, but this guy wrote the Cervelli Facts!)
Thank you, but I gotta disagree with you on Beckett.
FIP by year (2007, 2008, 2009) : 3.08, 3.24, 3.63
Trending up, but still very, very dominant. And I think it’s a tribute to their depth that they can have this amount of injuries and still be within striking distance. I mean, they’ve essentially had no contribution from Beckett (0.5 WAR, not sure how), and are still 9 games over .500.
by Lord Duggan on Jun 14, 2010 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Nice post, as usual, but I must say, your SOTPPP is very high right now, kinda like AJAX, you gotta keep this out
Score Outta Ten Per Post Published
"We're only going to score 17 points?" - Tom Brady
"Well played, Mauer." - Guy from PS3 commercials
Nice job Duggan and congrats on becoming the new writer.
Only thing I could think of to be done differently is if the bosux were last, simply because they are the bosux. I like this break down and ready to see the ones to follow.
Alphabetical man, alphabetical. The Boston Red Sox come first, the Texas Rangers get to go last.
But I guess I could have gone REVERSE ALPHABETICAL for the win.
by Lord Duggan on Jun 14, 2010 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions
geographical mumbo jumbo
artie moreno may be treating the populace like the morons most of them are for marketing reasons, but Anaheim precedes Boston (alphabetically speaking)
by NYer in a strange land on Jun 15, 2010 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Agree with Bucholz
HR rate, that should come back up. As much as I hate him for being on Boston, I think Lester is def. in the conversation of best lefty in the game. I look forward to seeing the rest of the teams assessments, even though I don’t think the Angels are much of a threat especially with out Morales. As long as the Rangers can keep there young pitchers playing well I think they could start to run away with the division. I’m not sure the Reds, even though I do like what I’ve seen from them, will be able to stay in the hunt for the long haul but they will be getting Volquez back in a month or so, if he’s healthy he could be as good as trading for someone at the deadline.
The Red Sox rotation still has me worried
Lester’s done very nicely for my fantasy team. I was pretty skeptical of Buchholz coming into the season, but he’s convinced me. Lackey’s numbers may be up, but he’s got nearly the same record as Lester (7-3 vs. 7-2.) If they keep this up, and either Jawsh or Dice-K returns to form, the Red Sox will be competing for the AL East title in September.
Those are pretty substantial ifs, though, and if they’re still mired in third in mid-July, I wouldn’t be shocked if they make a move for Lee.
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Very nice article, and good song choices.
I’d definitely agree that Buck & Lester are Boston’s best pitchers right now. But we shall see how the others perform. All in all, I’d still consider them a 3rd place team in the AL East.
"WHO WOULD LEAD?! THE CLOWN?!"
by I'mGivingYouARaise on Jun 14, 2010 11:33 PM EDT reply actions
I figured you would especially appreciate the choice of Yes.
by Lord Duggan on Jun 14, 2010 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions
But of course!
Music like Yes is the key behind all super science!
"WHO WOULD LEAD?! THE CLOWN?!"
by I'mGivingYouARaise on Jun 15, 2010 2:36 AM EDT up reply actions
AJ= Buchholz? I dont think so
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by bestbostonsports on Jun 15, 2010 1:19 AM EDT reply actions
Boy, I wonder what Duggan meant with this?
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post for pitchers
i found it to be very well researched and credible. the one thing i would like to have seen added is average innings pitched per start. i know especially when the red sox and yanks play it can get into middle relief or long relief in a hurry and can effect the whole series in a normal format.
Not a problem:
Lester: 13 starts, 85 IP, 6.54 IP/Start
Buchholz: 12 starts, 78.2 IP, 6.56 IP/Start
Lackey: 13 starts, 81.1 IP, 6.26 IP/Start
Beckett: 8 starts, 45.2 IP, 5.71 IP/Start
Wakefield: 10 starts, 64.1IP (Took out his 4 relief appearances) 6.43 IP/Start
Matsuzaka: 8 starts, 49 IP, 6.13 IP/Start
Dude the article was good but the mood music
Put me in a bad mood
The Police never think it's as is funny as you do.Drain us of life and cleanse the mess the end of prod... It puts the lotion on. If you joined after the WS and are insulting everyone, you are the guy at the gym nobody likes because he is a pompous ass( don't argue to further make my point stupid )
by cashman bashman on Jun 15, 2010 10:26 AM EDT reply actions

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