Boo Joba Chamberlain? You bet!
In his post in the wee hours of the morning, Travis took exception to Saturday's booing of Joba Chamberlain when he exited after getting one out, surrendering four runs and coughing up a New York Yankee lead.
Well, let me be completely honest here. I was in attendance Saturday, probably the only game I will get to this season. And I was booing Joba, too.
Is there such a thing as "Booing Etiquette?" I don't know. I do know that, in my mind, it is NEVER OK to boo Mariano Rivera or Derek Jeter. It is probably bad form to boo Andy Pettitte and Jorge Posada as well. It used to be accepted practice to boo Alex Rodriguez. I'm not so sure A-Rod is fair game anymore, either. It's also probably not cool to boo Robinson Cano, since he might be the American League MVP right now.
As much as I love the Yankees, and I don't like listening to the booing, I can't really say that anyone else is completely off limits.
When it comes to Saturday's game, let's just say I completely understand the booing, which I would have to since I was participating in it. To be honest, the booing was only partially directed at Joba.
These Joba meltdowns are getting to be all too common of an occurrence. Joba now has a 5.82 ERA and this was his third brutal performance in his last five outings. He hit 97 mph on the Yankee Stadium radar gun, but Indians' hitters rocketed pretty much everything he threw all around the ballpark.
When it comes to Joba, Yankee fans have thrown plenty of praise and adulation his way since 2007. A little heat is OK, I think. Chamberlain was absolutely awful Saturday, and he has not yet lived up to the hype. Starting or relieving.
But, the booing was about more. This was a bad -- really bad -- baseball game.
- It took 4 hours, 22 minutes.
- There were an unbelievable 402 pitches thrown.
- There were 13 walks combined by the two pitching staffs.
- There were three batters hit by pitches.
- There were two delays caused by injured pitchers. Thank God Cleveland's David Huff is going to be OK, but in the end the delays still added to the frustration of the fans.
- There was Brett Gardner getting picked off first base.
- There was an obviously uncomfortable CC Sabathia taking what seemed like about five tortured minutes between each pitch he threw.
- There was Manager Joe Girardi bringing in an obviously unprepared Sergio Mitre to pitch when David Robertson left with a back strain in that fateful seventh inning.
I don't know what else to say other than this was just a horrible baseball game to sit through. By the time Joba finally got an out and stomped off the mound, having surrendered four of the 18-29 Indians' seven runs in that seventh inning, the Stadium crowd was just plain aggravated.
Boo? At that point, sure. And while it seemed like Joba was the primary target, I think it was the whole pitiful performance by the Yankees that truly drew the ire of the 46,000+ in attendance.
After they got done booing, I saw something else you don't see often at Yankee Stadium. Probably half the crowd just got up and left. That's how awful this game was.
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Cleveland's always had Joba's number
He’ll bounce back.
"‘cause he’s worried about everything, and he tries to win all the time."
-- Francisco Cervelli on Alex Rodriguez
I hope he gets the chance to pitch today
he deserved all the boos he can get of course. But the Yanks are gonna need this guy
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It was probably the worst game I had ever been to.
CC rolled through the first three innings.
Then he just lost all rhythm. It was painful to watch. One particular half inning seemed to take about half an hour.
Crowds are won and lost and won again, but our hearts beat for the diehards.
by Edwantsacracker on May 30, 2010 10:53 AM EDT reply actions
Yep
CC kept backing off the rubber, calling Cervelli out to the mound, walking around and generally looking like the last thing he wanted to do was throw the ball. In fact, I was yelling “just throw the ball” from my seat.
Which I know he couldn’t hear, since I was in the nosebleeds.
by Ed Valentine on May 30, 2010 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions
I think
a fan has a right to boo anybody, including the Core Four…They are the ones spending hard earned money (in most cases), as long as they stay as spectators and do not become participators, boo your heart out if you must.
Stay thirsty my friends.
I would never boo Jeter or Mariano
But yeah, I was booing Joba at home, when the game has an ugly turn, booing is what makes you feel better.
I hope Joba gets it together, if these struggles continue he has to be sent down to AAA, not yet though, it’s been 2 bad starts. But if it gets to the point where he can’t be trusted at all that may be what he needs.
"We're only going to score 17 points?"
Joba is a problem
Right now he just isn’t reliable. Of course, I don’t know who is in the Yankee pen at the moment.
by Ed Valentine on May 30, 2010 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Too bad
you didn’t get to witness a a better game….that sucks!
Stay thirsty my friends.
by Great Gatsby on May 30, 2010 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Poor Joba. He gets booed at the Stadium by those nasty nasty Yankees fans.
His ego, many have argued, is way too fragile to withstand a trip to Scranton. (As if the ego does better pitching poorly for NY.) The only problem is that, depsite his apparent natural talents, he doesn’t at this point seem to have the physical or mental attributes to pitch successfully in the majors. What to do? Not pitch him? Hope that he suddenly figures it out? Put him on a diet and get him in shape? Answers, anyone?
BOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Hey! I’t part of the game and the fan’s way to communicate the fact that they don’t appreciate the effort. Joba? I don’t know what’s wrong but I believe he needs to go to AAA to get it worked out.
Joba has a bad attitude
Joba has never gotten over not being selected as a starting pitcher.
Joba does not want to be a reliever so trade him for someone who does. He is, has been, and will continue to hurt the team with his performance.
His comments after the game show he really does not care about winning as a reliever and is not a team player
by YANKEES FOREVER on May 30, 2010 12:19 PM EDT reply actions
Really? He doesn't care?
This is some of what he said.
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"I let the team down," Chamberlain said. "There’s no long and short of it. I’ve got to make better pitches in that situation. They fought and clawed the whole game and I was supposed to come in and get one out, and I didn’t do my job."
I don’t see any bad attitude in there.
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by Ed Valentine on May 30, 2010 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions
lol
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by FreeBradshaw on May 30, 2010 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Seriously Ed...? Seriously?
I mean wow. You should work at Guantanamo… I mean that pitiful mea culpa is right up there with “I made good contact today….” “I’m seeing the ball well….”
Come on – that is Sports reporter response 101 Ed….
by YankeeIntel on May 30, 2010 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions
So if he said
“Damn, I really suck. I’ll never be that pitcher I was in 2007 again. Maybe I should be sent down to AAA so I can fact batters that will never be in the big leagues so I can get my confidence up. This game is all my fault. I pitched horribly through those first 6 innings. I even hit enough to score 10 runs. But I just couldn’t get through that 7th inning.”
Would that be better?
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by FreeBradshaw on May 30, 2010 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions
No
A simple “I suck at this job” would suffice.
by YankeeIntel on May 30, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Cuz that would help.....
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by FreeBradshaw on May 30, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Just curious?
Why the double standard? I frankly don’t want to go through the exercise of counting but Mark Melancon has been up and down more times than a Elliot Spitzer hooker but even the mere mention of sending Joba down sends everyone into a full fledged pitched battle. What’s up with that? The guy apparently didn’t pan out as a starter….he’s certainly NOT cutting it in a crucial bullpen role…perhaps we should send him down…stretch him out…and see what he can bring to the team in the latter months of summer cuz I find it hard to believe this rotation is going to make it through 2 seasons in a row without injury. THAT guys is whistling past the graveyard….
by YankeeIntel on May 30, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Melancon's never done anything at the big league level
that’s probably got a lot to do with it. If he wasn’t hyped to be a future closer for the Yanks, he’d be Jonathon Albaledajo
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by FreeBradshaw on May 30, 2010 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Keep in mind folks
this is a blog, not ESPN or MLBN, ok so have a little more common sense.
Stay thirsty my friends.
by Great Gatsby on May 30, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions
booing
I’ve never booed and I never will. If someone else wants to boo I think it is their right as a fan but I don’t think my booing has any positive effect on the performance of the player. Unless they don’t give effort they don’t deserve to be booed. Joba sucked balls yesterday, in fact the entire pitching performance of every 6 pitchers minus marte, sucked balls, we all know that. However I don’t think booing makes them pitch better it just gets in people’s heads. a rod used to get booed all day when he struggled and it just made things worse. We are supposed to be a home field advantage and that means after allowing 3 runs, we have to get up and cheer for that 3rd strike instead of booing. the team doesn’t need our cheers when we are ahead by 10 runs, they need us when the going gets tough.
I agree with this.
I think that the booing is just not going to be helpful in any way for the player. It’s not like Joba stood out there yesterday thinking he was doing an awesome job. Aren’t we on his side?
by CAyankeesfan on May 30, 2010 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
With all due respect
You are 3,000 miles away, you are not somebody spending an inordinate amount of money to attend a baseball game and watch a terrible display of baseball, not just by him,
by the entire pitching staff yesterday, excluding Marte…
Stay thirsty my friends.
by Great Gatsby on May 30, 2010 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Ha, I know... I'm just saying that I personally wouldn't do it.
by CAyankeesfan on May 30, 2010 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Hence
they were venting not only at him, is my point.
Stay thirsty my friends.
by Great Gatsby on May 30, 2010 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I rarely boo the home team
Saturday was an exception for me. It was simply a pitiful all-around display of baseball, and a game that should never, ever have been lost. A 10-4 lead against the INDIANS
by Ed Valentine on May 30, 2010 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I really do understand how you feel
For me, this emotion is less about booing the team that it is about booing the universe for presenting me with such a shitty game to watch
We live in LA, Gatsby
We just simply get up and leave after the 5th inning… (After getting to the game in the 2nd.)
by YankeeIntel on May 30, 2010 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Gee
I thought they drank there wine spritzers and stayed until at least the 7th, haha!
Stay thirsty my friends.
by Great Gatsby on May 30, 2010 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions
No way....
have you seen LA traffic lately? If you start out early enough you can get a good seat at the sushi bar…
I think the people who say they have never booed a baseball player and
would never boo a baseball player are the ones that don’t actually go to games. I agree that it would be rather silly, for example, to boo the television in your family room.
doesnt matter
I’m a season ticket holder and i go to plenty of games every year and I don’t boo. I spend my hard earned money to watch them play but why does that give me the right to boo joba because he is struggling, or any reliever. I was disgusted with the performance but im positive the team and joba are as well and dont need me to make things worse.
Everyone is different
I rarely will boo a player, or a team, I root for. I don’t heckle, I don’t get drunk and yell stupid, obnoxious things that only I think are funny, and I don’t go out of my way to make myself noticed by the folks around me.
I got frustrated Saturday and joined in the booing.
Joba and the Yankees hear plenty of praise from the fans. They can take a little booing when they earn it.
by Ed Valentine on May 30, 2010 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Nobody to blame except our management
as collectively, the Yankee “management” of the on-field managers and the off-field ones in their inestimable knowledge took a young kid and knocked his brain around so much that we all have what we don’t want: a 24 year old who doesn’t know what day of the week it is. This kid came up snorting and stamping and exuded power and control and desire and threw flames to designated spots. Sure, it is the big leagues, and big league hitters figure them all out, to a degree. But last year it was inexcusable what we did to this kid’s noodle, worse with the “who will be the 5th starter” day by day BS, and the ultimate bad was the whole BS about “the Joba rules”. He learned that the fire and storming and smashing his fist and all that might inhibit his young young arm, weaken his progress, etc. Did they have “Whitey Ford rules”? Or “Ron Guidry rules”? Hell no, they showed up and were given the ball to go do it. They did it. We have created a psycho case out of a perfectly fine young talent and it will take quite a while to undo it.
by Nine mike charlie on May 30, 2010 12:34 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
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how about they start at " just throw the fkin ball Joba".
Gotta say, I think that’s what they did with Hughes. The guy throws nothing but fastballs, has maintained the same mentality he had as a RP as he does as SP…and it doesn’t effect him. Hughes is pissed every single pitch he throws, and it works.
Joba’s motion was talked about as being the reason he may break down one day…but may its the thing that made him good? Maybe the problem with his mechanics, is they tried to work on his mechanics?
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by FreeBradshaw on May 30, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions
True it's what they told him when he came up
and instead of tinkering with him, should have let him do it. To try to remake a 22 year old into a smooth delivery pitcher with about 6 pitches can’t be done overnight. Ask Pettite. And one set of tinkering led to another, and each of those led to a couple more ideas, and all of a sudden we had a kid who was in his noodle worried that if he threw too many pitches in a way the bosses didn’t like, he’d be dumped on again. So he’s out there wondwering wtf is going on half the time. Too bad.
by Nine mike charlie on May 30, 2010 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I think its why they just let Hughes go out there and throw
Hughes deliver is “repeatable”. Hughes can just go out there an throw as hard as he can, and its still the same motion. I dunno if they ever messed with him at all..and well, he doesn’t look at all messed up. He looks like he took his bullpen experience to the mound.
Joba…it looks like he’s about to explode on each pitch..which well, maybe that’s how he got his explosion?
Leave em the hell alone, maybe give him a John Henderson slap..and tell Joba who the hell cares if your arm explodes on the next pitch, just go and be you.
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by FreeBradshaw on May 30, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
So...
basically I think what you;re saying is we don’t have a guy who’s a viable long term solution? I’m not following? If his motion is f’d up and we’ve confused him with conflicting input, and he’s not viable in starting rotation or bullpen, what are we talking about here?
This guy is still a “project” and you don’t put “projects” in crucial bullpen roles.
Very good points
But making analogies to the “Whitey Ford” years or even later day Ron Guidry, is very much an apples to oranges analogy. The game was much different then, and pitchers were not babied
along the way, and routinely threw 300 innings back then (especially during Guidry’s era).
They also spent more time in the minors to develop before being brought up, Guidry was close to 26 when he was brought up. One reason Joba came up snorting and stomping was he was just a pup, didn’t know any better, with little time spent in the minors.
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by Great Gatsby on May 31, 2010 7:50 AM EDT up reply actions
wow ugly game, I watched the highlights.
Hope Huffs ok, that was real scary
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by bestbostonsports on May 30, 2010 12:36 PM EDT reply actions
I find difficult to 'boo' a player that is on the team I am rooting to win.
I think Joba will be fine. He’ll work out the problems that ails him.
The one who deserved to get
booed was C.C. He’s the one with the fat contract who couldn’t pitch deep into a game with a huge lead against the worst team in baseball
by garp on May 30, 2010 12:45 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
That always bothers me
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by bestbostonsports on May 30, 2010 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Being good every game, no. But an ace should be
good most games. He hasn’t been too good of late and needs to pick it it up.
CC should get booed for his performance, yes.
Not for his contract…he earned a great deal of it last year right?
And definitely not for the team he faced. This is baseball. Anything can happen on any given day. Especially when you’re facing a bad team like Cleveland…and especially a bad team like Cleveland who’s got some history with CC.
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by FreeBradshaw on May 30, 2010 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Uhm...he has a 7 year contract. If he is mediocre for the next 6 years
then no, he did not earn a great deal of it last year. I just find it funny that people want to boo the person who could not clean up the mess that someone else created. The fact is that if CC had not messed up then Joba would not have been in the game at that point to blow it.
how many WS does a guy have to win to be worth it?
not that I don’t get what you’re trying to say…
Uhm...more than one. And he was good but he wasn't even
the best pitcher for the Yankees in the WS. Andy Pettitte was.
LOL!
Pettite was great.
CC was the Yanks MVP of the playoffs.
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by FreeBradshaw on May 31, 2010 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Odd that since Pettitte won more games throughout
and CC had no wins in the WS.
did I NOT say that CC should be booed for his performance?
Cuz I’m pretty sure I’m looking at that I did.
CC’s contract is irrelvant. Anyone’s contract is. Is CC allowed to bring 161 million Ben Franklins out to the mound with him? No, that would be an unfair advantage wouldn’t it?
CC should be booed for his suck in that start, yes. Should he be booed cuz he makes more money they you? No.
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by FreeBradshaw on May 31, 2010 8:03 AM EDT up reply actions
**just 1million Franks
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by FreeBradshaw on May 31, 2010 8:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Needs
to crank it up as well, hasn’t won in his last five starts, I dare say he has been worse than Javy over the past few weeks (even Javy has given us two good starts).
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by Great Gatsby on May 31, 2010 8:08 AM EDT up reply actions
I dunno why you dare say that...
really not his fault. If not for rain, he should collect the win in that 14-3 win over the Pissants.
And the other game against the Pissants, you go 7 strong of 1R ball, your offense scores 6 runs…the bullpen’s gotta close that game out.
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by FreeBradshaw on May 31, 2010 9:05 AM EDT up reply actions
And yea,
winning the WS….he earned a lot of that dough.
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by FreeBradshaw on May 31, 2010 8:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Right...and you won't be booing in
3 years if this keeps up.
if he keeps exactly WHAT up?
He’s had 2 bad starts in a row. Wow.
You think CC Sabathia..one of the best LH in all of baseball, is gonna keep this up?
For 3 years? Booing if he keeps this up for 3 years? Not only will I be booing, but I’ll be booing while watching the game with my pet Sasquatch living on Mars. Maybe I’ll head over to ESPN15 for the flying pig race.
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by Lord Duggan on May 31, 2010 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Actually I don't think he is going to keep this up...
just like I don’t think Joba is going to keep his struggles up. My point, which might be a little too sophisticated for you, was that I found it silly that people would boo Joba when they main culprit in the loss was CC.
I had to sit through this game at a bar, at an airport terminal,between flights
and could not fly off the handle for fear of being detained by homeland security. Joba sucked and needs to get it together PERIOD.
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by ReggieARodJeter on May 30, 2010 5:45 PM EDT reply actions
I have never
booed anyone in my life. I have yelled or called someone a name (name that comes to mind is Jose Veras) but to boo someone is so stupid! Seriously, turn off your TV or whatever noise making thing you have at your residence and boo out loud. Don’t you think you sound like a fool? I can’t believe grown adults boo!

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