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Russo Should Stay

Run Russo Run!

On Friday the Yankees will likely activate Curtis Granderson from the DL. The move that will likely follow that will be the demotion of Kevin Russo to AAA Scranton. The move that should follow instead is Randy Winn should be designated for assignment.

Sure Winn has the past track record and history as a solid MLB outfielder, but his decline over the past few seasons is nothing short of remarkable (in a bad way, of course). This season we have seen only a small sample size of Winn, but already Girardi seems to prefer Kevin Russo in left the last few games.

This season Winn is hitting .213/.300/.295 with 1 HR and 8 RBI in 61 AB's. Sure, that is a very small sample size. Winn is 0-11 against lefties this season and hit .158 against them last season. The Yankees did get Winn for his defense, but a combination of Kevin Russo and Ramiro Pena backing up in the outfield would certainly be alright.

Russo is showing that he is not only comfortable in the majors, but he also belongs there. His performance is reminiscent of that of Ramiro Pena last year when he made the team out of spring training and played well. There's something about Yankees minor leaguers refusing to let chances slip by them.

Russo should be rewarded with a utility spot similar to Pena's on the MLB roster. The Yankees can find another Randy Winn if they need one, Winn was once something special but no longer is. The only reason why the Yankees shouldn't do this is if they truly feel Russo will somehow get a starting job with the MLB team in the near future, or if they think Randy Winn's defense is not something they can lose.

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I agree totally

Send down winn and keep up the kid simple as that, we have to keep gettign better and winn isnt helping that russo will.

by awithers08 on May 27, 2010 8:23 AM EDT reply actions  

Winn

Won’t go to AAA. He’s been in the big leagues too long. Yanks would likely designate him for assignment.

by Ed Valentine on May 27, 2010 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly

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by Brandon C. on May 27, 2010 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

If, as you say, Girardi seems to prefer Russo in left field (and I think

that is true), why would they keep Winn? Is Cashman overruling Girardi? Does Cashman not want to admit a mistake in signing Winn? Are the Yanks concerned about “wasting” Winn’s salary?

Why don’t the Yanks want to put the best team out on the field, which they claim they always try to do?

by HilltopPark on May 27, 2010 8:41 AM EDT reply actions  

First of all, I doubt Winn’s salary is much of an issue, nor do I believe Cashman is holding on to him out of pride. He signed for $1.1 million this season to be a 4th/5th outfielder. He’s probably one of the easiest players in baseball to DFA at this point.

I agree that he’s been terrible at the plate this season, although if he could revert to something resembling last year’s batting line (.262/.318/.353) it would be fine for a reserve outfielder. There is no denying the fact that Winn is an excellent defensive outfielder, which is what you really want to see from somebody who figures to see the most action as a late inning defensive replacement going forward.

I think the bigger question is, can you realisticaly consider Russo an outfielder at this point? He’s barely played a dozen games out there in his professional career. As much as we like to see a young kid (and realistically, he’s almost 26 – he isn’t THAT young) get a shot, we need to be honest about what he brings to the table. He has little power, doesn’t hit for an especially high average, and doesn’t walk much, so expecting him to be exponentially better than Randy Winn at this point may be asking for too much.

Send him to Scranton and let him play all three outfield position for 4-6 weeks and I’ll feel more comfortable releasing Winn and calling Russo up then.

by 3460kuri on May 27, 2010 9:08 AM EDT reply actions  

I was going to agree with the OP

but after reading this rebuttal, very good points indeed.

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by 27Tango on May 27, 2010 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Russo has hit

.326 and .307 the last two years in the minors. I would say thats pretty high.

by Yankees10 on May 27, 2010 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

His age

Because Russo, Pena and a couple guys are basically interchangeable backup infielders on a team with Arod Jeter Cano.

"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."

by jscape2000 on May 27, 2010 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dont know

Who cares where he is when it comes to prospect rankings. If the guy can hit, he can hit. Nobodys asking him to become a starter.

by Yankees10 on May 27, 2010 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hang on a minute

My point about prospect rankings was to say if he was actually capable of consistently hitting .300 in the majors, he would have shown up somewhere, sooner, as a legitimate prospect.

Nobody is asking him to start, and right now he’s realistically the 6th/7th outfielder. Shouldn’t we see him play another dozen games out there before we move him ahead of the known quantity?

by 3460kuri on May 27, 2010 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hence me saying

Russo will be sent down and Winn will stay….I think he’ll be fine out there but I don’t think the Yankees think that

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by Brandon C. on May 27, 2010 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sadly, it won't happen.

They will send him down to get experience in the OF. Out of respect, I doubt Winn will be DFA’d

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by jramey on May 27, 2010 9:18 AM EDT reply actions  

Exactly what I said

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by Brandon C. on May 27, 2010 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agree

25/26 years old, versatile. Why not see what he’s got?

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by ReggieARodJeter on May 27, 2010 9:24 AM EDT reply actions  

With some regular MLB ABs

I think alot of the luster is going to wear off of Russo. A 26 year old career minor leaguer is a 26 year old career minor leaguer for a reason. But because Russo has options, sending him down means that they can keep Winn without losing Russo. Winn would need to be DFAd, and some team would give him a shot.

The reason Russo and Winn are both on the team is for depth, and there’s no point in cutting down that outfield depth just because Kevin Russo has hit a few doubles in the week he’s been here or because it’s a nice story.

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by Lord Duggan on May 27, 2010 10:13 AM EDT reply actions  

Agreed

When the team is healthy, Winn is here to be a defensive sub for Swisher. Unless we are confident that Russo can play better d in RF than Winn, it’s too early to DFA the vet while Russo has options. Give Winn a few more ABs and a couple more chances in the field. You can always cut him later.

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by jscape2000 on May 27, 2010 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Isn't that what they said

about Cervelli and Pena?

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by Brandon C. on May 27, 2010 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

With Russo getting the start again tonight...

Im starting to think he might be staying. Randy Winn getting passed over by a rookie IF speaks bunches of what the team thinks of Winn at this point. Unless Winn is hurt, which could mean he gets DLd when Grandy comes back which could work too.

by YankeesJets on May 27, 2010 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

If Winn was hurt we'd probably know it

Reporters don’t miss these things these days it seems…I’m not sure if it’s a sign that he’s staying or a sign that they want him to get as much OF experience as he can before getting sent down to get practice in AAA

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by Brandon C. on May 27, 2010 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is Winn really on the mind of reporters,lol?

You would think they would ask Joe why he isnt starting the veteran OF Winn, instead of a Minor League IF in Russo, but I dont think they have. Maybe they should, I know Im happy with Joe’s decision to start the kid, but I wonder why Joe is keeping Winn out of the lineup.

by YankeesJets on May 27, 2010 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Believe it or not

I’m surprised it hasn’t come up. Reporters will ask basically anything to get a scoop or a story, no matter how small it is.

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"So I close in saying that I may have had a tough break, but I have an awful lot to live for."

by Brandon C. on May 27, 2010 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm guessing that was a joke....

but if not that is not true

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by Brandon C. on May 27, 2010 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

So far all of his posts have said that!

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by Brandon C. on May 27, 2010 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was joking about the reporters and Girardi forgetting Winn is still part of the team

Not every post of mine has lol, some here dont know know what sarcasm is, hence the use of lol when sarcasm is used.

by YankeesJets on May 27, 2010 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's true!

^or was that sarcasm….tricky….

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"So I close in saying that I may have had a tough break, but I have an awful lot to live for."

by Brandon C. on May 27, 2010 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

So is the lol okay for sarcasm?

Or should we come up with something for sarcasm without having to actually write sarcasm? That sounds pretty lazy, doesnt it?

by YankeesJets on May 27, 2010 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

i usually leave the lol out and let people fend for themselves

but 70% of what i say is sarcasm and there’s no way of knowing how that goes. haha.

by CAyankeesfan on May 27, 2010 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Same here

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by Brandon C. on May 27, 2010 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

If there wasn't a spot on the roster for Cervelli and Pena

the same thing would have and should have happened.

It would have been dumb last year for the Yankees to DFA Jose Molina or Hairston Jr. to free up spots for bench players who have AAA options. The choice was either Jose Molina AND Cervelli waiting in AAA or just Cervelli, Hairston AND Pena waiting in AAA or just Pena, Winn AND Russo waiting in AAA, or just Russo.

Giving away players for a younger, unknown quantity of a bench player is just silly.

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by Lord Duggan on May 27, 2010 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

As much as you have to love Russo's contributions yesterday, he misplayed a fly ball, and he has an infielder's arm.

If he’s really an infielder who can play outfield in a pinch, how is he any different from Ramiro Pena? Taller? Better looking? Pena is, at least in theory, the third catcher.

Super utility players are all the rage now, but it’s hard to justify keeping Russo on his own merits since there is already another player just like him. The best argument for him is that he gives the team more offense than Winn or Pena, I guess.

The more I see of Winn, the fewer the reasons I see to have him around. He doesn’t look like his offense will improve much with more playing time, and he isn’t a basestealer or better outfielder than say, Gardner.

I suppose, for now, Russo will have to accept his frequent flyer miles that he accumulates going back and forth to Scranton.

by designatedquitter on May 27, 2010 10:38 AM EDT reply actions  

I like the caption

Run Rabbit Run is on my to-read list. I’ve always enjoyed Updike’s short fiction.

"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."

by jscape2000 on May 27, 2010 10:40 AM EDT reply actions  

Prepare yourself for raunchiness..

I had to read Rabbit is Rich in high school and I was ultimately left feeling like I had read something that was more like…half book, half porno.

by CAyankeesfan on May 27, 2010 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, that’s kind of Updikes’ gig from other stuff I’ve read.

"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."

by jscape2000 on May 27, 2010 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sadly, I just thought in sounded good

No idea what this book is

Writer for Pinstripe Alley.
"Today I consider myself the luckiest man on the face of this earth."
"So I close in saying that I may have had a tough break, but I have an awful lot to live for."

by Brandon C. on May 27, 2010 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like Winn, and actually liked the signing (unlike most people) to be a backup OF. But the guy looks like he is clearly done and I would rather have Russo on the roster at this point.

by Yankees10 on May 27, 2010 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Bring him on!

Another homegrown Yankee…

by david d on May 27, 2010 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wasn't but few weeks ago

that Randy Win did what Russo is doing for the Yanks, win games or have some clutch hits that helped it. How quickly its forgotten, and its pretty funny.

I like Russo, he should continue to get a chance to get MLB AB’s…but mistakes are made when you DFA a veteran in favor over a mediocre at best player who’s had oh……3-4 games of experience

sadah tah

by FreeBradshaw on May 27, 2010 12:29 PM EDT reply actions  

I don't know

I feel like Winn has been hitting better lately. But I missed the game over the weekend when he did something bad in the OF (I think that’s what I read, anyways?). But as a backup, I think he’s okay.

by CAyankeesfan on May 27, 2010 12:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Agreed

Winn should be designated for assignment. Keep Russo up here. He’s young, versatile, has some pop, and it’s nice to have some young homegrown guys helping the team out. I hate Winn. He’s done. Get rid of him.

by nyyrocks29 on May 27, 2010 3:32 PM EDT reply actions  

I strongly want Winn off the Yankees ......but

I think keeping Russo up will cause more damage then good. With Grandy coming back, where does Russo get regular ABs? Winn sitting on the bench doesn’t hurt anybody and despite a few plays in the field that had me ready to kick the TV, he is a capable defensive replacement. Russo needs to play everyday, and the minors will afford him this luxury.I like Russo, which is why I want him sent down.

by YankeesJets on May 27, 2010 4:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Ride Russo's Hot Streak

And ditch him when he finally, inevitably cools off. Every now and then a AAAA player will catch fire for no good reason. Remember Shane Spencer, the Home Run Dispenser? :-)

And if he doesn’t cool off, well, I’m OK with that too!

by d_c_guy on May 27, 2010 5:14 PM EDT reply actions  

By the way

You’re all forgetting Pena plays some outfield as well

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"So I close in saying that I may have had a tough break, but I have an awful lot to live for."

by Brandon C. on May 27, 2010 5:19 PM EDT reply actions  

That doesn't have anything to do with my point

When people say there isn’t a legit backup OF they have Pena and Russo, sure they are both primarily infielders, but Pena even got time in AAA in OF

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"So I close in saying that I may have had a tough break, but I have an awful lot to live for."

by Brandon C. on May 27, 2010 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

They haven't given Pena a chance of late

I would rather get rid of Winn, but I don’t see the Yankees sending down Pena, but you never know

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"So I close in saying that I may have had a tough break, but I have an awful lot to live for."

by Brandon C. on May 27, 2010 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

We would all rather get rid of Winn

But i think with Winn going back to the role he was brought in to do, he will be going nowhere for now. As long as we keep winning and Grandy comes back hitting, I could care less if its Russo or Winn riding the bench right now.

by YankeesJets on May 27, 2010 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think they will get rid of Winn

I want them too. Let me make that clear

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"So I close in saying that I may have had a tough break, but I have an awful lot to live for."

by Brandon C. on May 27, 2010 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

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