Not-yet retired numbers out of circulation
by Andrew GM on May 26, 2010 12:00 PM EDT
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I'm sure this topic has been discussed at length here at PSA before but I thought I'd bring it up again anyway. I noticed this year that they did not issue #18 (Johnny Damon) or #55 (Hideki Matsui) to anyone. No offense to either of these players, but I would be shocked if they ended up retiring them. They're probably just paying tribute to them by holding them out of circulation for a year or two. They did that with Tino Martinez's #24 as well- they did not issue it in 2002 and only gave it out in 2003 when they traded mid-season for Ruben Sierra. The team has also kept Mike Mussina's #35 out of circulation since he retired after the 2008 season. I would also be surprised if they retired that number- I'd imagine it will probably be issued again next year or so. There are a few numbers that have been out of circulation for quite some time that I'd imagine the team is considering retiring them sometime down the line.
#6- Joe Torre (last worn in 2007)
#21- Paul O'Neill (last worn in 2008 by Morgan Ensberg & LaTroy Hawkins, much to fan disapproval)
#51- Bernie Williams (last worn in 2006)
I definitely think they will retire Torre's number, and I was unsure about them retiring O'Neill's, but if the fans are so against anyone wearing that number I guess that's where they're headed. Bernie I'm also unsure about, though I'd imagine if anyone "unworthy" tried to wear #51, they'd be booed. What are your thoughts? Who on the current team might have their number retired? My money's obviously on Jeter's #2 and Mariano's #42, but A-Rod's #13 might end up there too- at the end of his contract, he'll have been with the team for 14 years, quite some time. We'll see.
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Oneill's will be honored, not retired. People won't wear it for awhile.
Bernie and Torre’s will eventually be retired, and so will Arod’s
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I think
O’Neil and Bernie’s uniform numbers Yanks should retire, Torre blew his opportunity with his book, that won’t happen now.
Stay thirsty my friends.
by Great Gatsby on May 26, 2010 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Have you read his book?
If not, might change your viewpoint. Why shouldn’t O’Neil have his number retired, gave the organization nine great years? Without him and guys like Tino and Brosius, they don’t go on that great run regardless of the Core Four. Mr. October only played here five years, yeah he had a great game 6, one year, so did Matsui?
Stay thirsty my friends.
by Great Gatsby on May 27, 2010 7:26 AM EDT up reply actions
The Yankee Years
Really wasn’t a book of angst against the Yanks. It was his interpretation of his time in NY. And in reading it, you realize he didn’t bash the Yankees. He simply told it as he saw it. And the media took out all the negativity from the book and showed the world those aspects.
His number will be retired.
Let's cut through the crap, Vaughn. I only got one thing to say to you: "Strike this mother f*cker out."
I have read the book
Bought it last year in Las Vegas at the airport for the 5 hour flight back home. I thought it was good book and I thought it wasnt as bad as the press tried to make it out to be. If speaking your feelings is such a crime, then perhaps the Yankees dont deserve for Torre to come back to the stadium. If anything I think the only way Torre ever steps foot in the New Yankee Stadium is if they give him a Joe Torre Day.
Yeah I really liked Torre's book, too.
Gave a nice look behind the scenes.
Did you know Joe Morgan thinks Cano will win a batting title one day?
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by CasanovaWong on May 26, 2010 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions
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Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.
by CasanovaWong on May 26, 2010 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions
not sure about Posada
but Jeter and Mo of course, Bernie probably, Torre deserves it but if he stays in LA for awhile and wins I think the Yankees screw him. Pettitte probably.
A-rod has a lot of years left and could win more Championships, plus he most likely retires with over 700 HR, maybe even ahead of Bonds so he gets his retired so he goes into the HOF as a Yank
by Rickfansince76 on May 26, 2010 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Bernie was a Yank during the lean years
Before lots of the bandwagoners joined up in 96, he was the guy in late 90s dynasty. Posada has never been the guy. I love Posada but he comes up a bit short for a retired number but due to his position I could see him making the Hall Of Fame, So maybe in the end he does get his number retired. Im not against it.
Posada?
"The only way I'm going to win a Gold Glove is with a can of spray paint." -
Reggie Jackson
by ReggieARodJeter on May 26, 2010 12:07 PM EDT reply actions
Yeah I don't know about Posada.
Very good player, but I wouldn’t put him quite up there with Yogi and co. Same goes for Pettitte, but I guess if they retired Guidry’s number (which I wasn’t too sure about), they’ll retire Andy’s too.
Did you know Joe Morgan thinks Cano will win a batting title one day?
Pettitte and Posada
are two of the core four and two of the best players at their postion in team history, im sure they will be retired
They've already retired the number for 4 catchers
The next one to be retired will have to be at least a Hall-of-Famer. Dickey & Berra have their numbers retired because they were legends and Hall-of-Famers. Elston Howard & Thurman may not have had “numbers” as impressive as Posada’s, but Howard was the 1st African-American to play for the team, and Munson was their beloved captain in the late ‘70s. They were also both outstanding fielders. Posada’s claim to fame is being a power hitting catcher with 249 of the team’s home runs and a member of the (slightly overrated) “Core Four.” I think he’s a very good player but I don’t know if I’d retire his number.
Did you know Joe Morgan thinks Cano will win a batting title one day?
Posada is not at all overrated.
I guess I’ve repeated this before, but there’s a reason that whenever Jorge’s not in the lineup….the past few weeks happens for the offense.
Posada is not even close to overrated. If anything, he’s underrated.
As for retiring his number…I’d give him a plaque…but I doubt he’s a HOFer. Only HOFer’s get their # retired, and that’s Jeter and MO (of course..Pettitte could be one too if he continues to play forever..which Jamie Moyer is showing that lefites can pitch till their arm falls off)
by FreeBradshaw on May 26, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Roger Maris, Ron Guidry, Don Mattingly and Billy Martin
are not all in the HOF and they have their numbers retired
You have to be for the Sox.
With the exception of Johnny Pesky. That’s one thing they do right in Boston- only a select few numbers retired. They haven’t even retired Wade Boggs’s number, they’re so selective.
Did you know Joe Morgan thinks Cano will win a batting title one day?
yup.
I’d rather them get more selective. Manny Bauelos is gonna be the Yanks ace in 7 years…wearing # 64.
by FreeBradshaw on May 26, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Hughes is already wearing #65... lol
Did you know Joe Morgan thinks Cano will win a batting title one day?
Didnt Hughes wear #35
the year after Mussina retired
pretty sure
you have to retire as a red sux, that’s why boggs # isn’t retired by them. i took a tour of fenway couple years ago and i remember the guide mentioning certain criteria, and that the player has to end his career with the team *checks wiki* ok, so they don’t “offically” have that rule anymore. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Red_Sox#Retired_numbers
bitter people up there.
That's not really a good reason.
I agree with Donnie’s number being retired because he was the only truly great player for them for so long in that period from 1982-1995. He was a terrific offensive AND defensive player, so he deserves it.
Roger Maris had 2 MVP seasons, plus the 61 homer season. Okay, but he wasn’t with the team long enough to me to merit retired number status. Maybe a plaque but not number retirement.
Guidry was basically the ‘70s-’80s version of Pettitte, terrific lefty, not a Hall-of-Famer but a staple of the team for 14 years. He just doesn’t strike me enough as someone who merits number retirement, just like Pettitte.
Billy Martin- smart manager, but he only won the one World Series with the team- ‘77. Ralph Houk managed the team to TWO World Series and his number isn’t retired (not that it should be). He was also a nutjob. If you read the new book on Steinbrenner, it’s easy to see why his number was retired- George was apologetic and wanted to make him feel good. I don’t think #1 should be retired.
Did you know Joe Morgan thinks Cano will win a batting title one day?
I think you’ve got to look at the whole package, too.
Martin’s retirement might have been as a mea culpa, but he also won 4 World Series as a player, was WS MVP in ’53.
"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."
WS MVPs weren't given out back then
Plus pretty much everyone who was with the team then won 5 World Series. If you’re going to say that, is someone going to make a case for someone like Gene Woodling to get his number retired?
Did you know Joe Morgan thinks Cano will win a batting title one day?
The Babe Ruth Award was the predicesor to the WS MVP, voted on by the writers.
And Martin won.
"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."
Not so fast...
Pettitte is one of the greatest Yankee pitchers of all time, but I think Lefty Gomez, Whitey Ford, Red Ruffing, Jack Chesbro to name a few were all better than Pettitte numbers-wise. But I do think #46 should be retired also.
Player A: Batting average .278
Home runs 249
Runs batted in 978
On-base plus slugging .862
Player B: Batting average .285
Home runs 358
Runs batted in 1,430
Section 203 Row 15 Seat 1
Agreed...somewhat
Arguably, you can’t compare any ballplayer from the 40’s and 50’s to the players today. The game is different, advanced scouting, technology, etc. Also, less teams back then, lots of great players stuck in the Negro Leagues, I could go on and on.
With that said, Jorge Posada is easily in the top 5 Yankee catchers of all time. Personally, I think it’s Berra, Dickey, Posada, Munson, Howard
No question # 20 is retired by the Yankees.
What do you do with Mariano's number?
Do you retire the #42 twice?
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by craig in calgary on May 26, 2010 12:58 PM EDT reply actions
Probably.
- is also retired twice for Bill Dickey & Yogi.
Did you know Joe Morgan thinks Cano will win a batting title one day?
Give 21 to Jesus Montero. Give O’Neill a plaque.
Give Bernie, Jorge and Andy plaques but not retired numbers (like Red Ruffing and Superchief Reynolds).
Retire 42, 6, and 2.
"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."
Agreed on all
I was never a Torre fan, but with the number of WS that he brought, gotta retire his number. Jeter and Mo as well obviously.
What are your thoughts on A-Rod? Too soon to tell? I think it’s very likely nobody but him wears 13 again…….
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Too soon, especially with the HGH investigation just beginning.
I think he’ll go in the Hall as a Yankee, but the last couple years of his contract will determine a lot about whether his number is retired.
Remember too, that some players’ numbers have been retired lately as a way to get them back into the organization (Reggie and Guidry leap to mind). Depending on how badly management wants a player on board for a project / PR move, some guys I wouldn’t retire could make it happen.
"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."
If ARod is the all time HR king by the end of his Yankee career
- will be retired, you also never know if that is in contract. Boggs number is retired in Tampa, I think it was part of his deal to sign with the Rays.
What if Mussina makes the Hall of Fame?
And what if he goes in as a Yankee?
by long time listener on May 26, 2010 1:31 PM EDT reply actions
nah...
never won a WS while he was here, and never was all that great aside from his final year.
He’s probably going in as an Oriole anyway if he goes in.
by FreeBradshaw on May 26, 2010 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree that he was better as an O
But he was pretty good as a Yankee too. And he came within 2 outs of winning a WS in 2001, so I wouldn’t hold his lack of WS wins against him.
by long time listener on May 26, 2010 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
I loved Mussina. If they hold a Mike Mussina day I will pay just about any price to be there.
I think he’ll make the Hall.
I don’t think the Yanks should retire his number though- his time here wasn’t Reggie-like enough to earn that.
"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."
mainly because he didn't get the big prize
but I don’tthink Moose gets in for some reason. He deserves to though. People forget, he put together that solid body of work spending his entire career in the monstrous AL East!
"The only way I'm going to win a Gold Glove is with a can of spray paint." -
Reggie Jackson
by ReggieARodJeter on May 26, 2010 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I got no problem at all with Moose's Yanks career
but if we’re talking about retiring a number, a plaque and going in as a Yankee…I can’t say he deserves any of that.
I dunno what the exact criteria it is for all these accolades, but I don’t think of Mussina.
by FreeBradshaw on May 26, 2010 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions
again, though, what if he goes in to the HOF as a Yankee?
His best years were with the Os, but it wouldn’t be crazy to see him go in as a Yankee. Would that change your assessment of whether his number should be retired?
by long time listener on May 26, 2010 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Dont see Moose getting a retired #, Even Winfield didnt get a retired #
Best I can see is a Mike Mussina day
I think a Moose Day would be cool.
Give him a plaque maybe.
Did you know Joe Morgan thinks Cano will win a batting title one day?
still no.
I just don’t see why. He was good for the Yanks. The Yanks have had a lot of good players. What about David Cone? David Wells? El Duque?
You retire Moose’s number, you open up a can of worms of ’why not".
by FreeBradshaw on May 26, 2010 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Exactly!
At that point, everyone who had a good game during this run gets plaques, retired numbers, etc…..man Homer Bush stole some key bags…give him a day!
"The only way I'm going to win a Gold Glove is with a can of spray paint." -
Reggie Jackson
by ReggieARodJeter on May 26, 2010 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions
still no.
I just don’t see why. He was good for the Yanks. The Yanks have had a lot of good players. What about David Cone? David Wells? El Duque?
You retire Moose’s number, you open up a can of worms of ’why not".
by FreeBradshaw on May 26, 2010 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I see your point
But the difference between Moose and those guys would be that Moose is a Yankee Hall of Famer. You can’t even say that about Rickey Henderson or Dave Winfield, both of whom are clearly better players but are not going to have their numbers retired.
by long time listener on May 26, 2010 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions
I dunno man..
Wells and El Duque could most definitely a case be made that they “deserve” their number retired.
Should they? Absolutely not. Honor them somehow if you want, but it just gets out of hand if you’re retiring everyone’s number.
by FreeBradshaw on May 26, 2010 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Going in as a Yankee means nothing
Red Ruffing, Tony Lazzieri,Herb Pennock, Waite Hoyt, Joe Gordon, Goose Gossage, Lefty Gomez, and Earle Combs are all in the Hall Of Fame, and they went in as Yankees….why arent their numbers retired?
Most of those guys went in before the Yankees got so number-retirement-happy. Now it’s more expected, though it’s probably expected for guys who are fan favorites, which I don’t think you can say about Mussina.
by long time listener on May 26, 2010 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Unless Mussina gets hit by a bus or thwarts a terrorist act
He has no chance of getting his number retired by the Yanks, even if he gets into the Hall, and he goes in as as Yank.
I agree, I want no part of seeing Mussina's number retired
Part of getting the number retired is you have to be a part of Yankees lore, which is why numbers like Martin’s, Mattingly’s, and Jackson’s #s are retired. In my eyes Cone meant more to the Yankees than Mussina ever did, I dont want to see his number retired though. If Mussina makes the hall, they will give him a Mussina day like they did Winfield.
Actually
he was pretty good while he was here. Better with the O’s? Yea, he was. But in 5 of his 8 seasons he had ERAs under 4, and in 6 of his eight seasons his ERA was above average. His only 20 win season was in pinstripes too.
And while all his postseasons were not good, he had two games he pitched in, both of which saved the Yankees seasons, and in both of those years the Yankees made the World Series. That can’t be overlooked.
He was better as an Oriole, but not so much better that people would be cursing the Hall if he goes in as a Yankee. And if he gets to choose, he’ll probably go in as a Yankee.
if you're talking about retired numbers for him
then absolutely not. Maybe if he pitched during an era where the Yankees won 4 championships like the ‘90s, then maybe (because that would put him to a similar category to Andy Pettitte). But he didn’t. And he wasn’t so good while he was here that championships don’t matter. Mussina doesn’t deserve a plaque. He doesn’t deserve to have his number retired.
If he makes the Hall as a Yankee? Good for him. He was my favorite pitcher aside from Rivera while he was here, and one of the most heartbreaking wins I’ve ever watched was that near perfect game of his (which is the reason he was my favorite pitcher). I’d love to see him at Old Timer’s Day or even have a Mike Mussina day for him, but thats as far as I would go. He was a great pitcher for the Yankees. Probably one of the top free agent signings they’ve ever made. But he doesn’t deserve a plaque
Every person I know in Baltimore would curse the Hall if he goes in as a Yank.
"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."
I agree, Moose should go in as a Oriole
And its no given that he gets in either. Winfield went in as a Padre, trust me, Mussina would go in as an Oriole.
excluding them
I mean people who aren’t fans of the Orioles or the Yankees. The general baseball fan.
I’m not sure what he’ll go in as. If the Hall is given the choice, I think he’ll go in as an Oriole. But if they let Mussina choose (as some players have chosen) then I think he goes in as a Yankee.
How does that work? Do they still let players pick the team they want to go in as? I think Mussina pitched well enough for both teams to earn the choice.
Well, We Know Mariano's Number is Gone
Since all teams have retired #42 for Jackie Robinson, and Mo is the last player left in the league “grandfathered” in – getting to keep the number since he was already wearing it at the time.
I agree with the earlier comment, Mo’s number will be retired for Mo AND in honor of Jackie Robinson.
When they retire 42 for Mo
Where will they put it on the outfield wall? Next to the blue 42 for Robinson or in regular procession with the rest of the numbers?
"Son, Nobody is half as good as Mickey Mantle"
I think most of you guys are spot on
I think Bernie’s 51 should get more consideration than O’Neill, and I think it will….as soon as Bernie retires. #2 and #6 are givens as is #42, I feel bad for Pettitte and Posada but I cant see them retiring their numbers too, perhaps they do a Core Four plaque. Moose in no way should have his # retired, he was good but I dont think Yankee great, when I think Moose. ARod will also see his #13 retired unless some other PED controversy rears its ugly head. Seeing #1 retired for Martin doesnt bother me at all, he was a Yankee legend, and he loved the pinstripes more than any other guy out there.
At the present rate, in 20 years the roster will be full of players with 3 digit numbers.
However, Chad Gaudin’s number will not be retired because of anything he did while wearing it.
by designatedquitter on May 26, 2010 3:08 PM EDT reply actions
Haaaa!
"The only way I'm going to win a Gold Glove is with a can of spray paint." -
Reggie Jackson
by ReggieARodJeter on May 26, 2010 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm so in favor of retiring Bernie's number. I cannot see anyone else wearing #51. Ever.
I thought O’Neil was great, but I don’t think they should retire his number. Posada though, definitely. I’d like them to retire Pettitte’s number, but I don’t know if they would. However, if you retire Pettitte’s, then you have to retire Posada’s too. In all honesty, I think due to the publicity of the whole “Core Four” thing, all 4 of their numbers will be retired.
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by I'mGivingYouARaise on May 26, 2010 3:32 PM EDT reply actions
Joe Torre and Bernie's should be retired
I don’t think Paul O’neil’s should be though. He was a great player, but not for long enough with the Yanks, and he obviously faded toward the end.
As far as players now, I retire Jeter’s, A-Rod’s, Rivera’s, Pettitte’s, and Posada’s. Yes, I know thats a lot of players, but the Core Four HAVE to be retired, with the way they’ve impacted the team the past 15 years. And if A-Rod becomes the HR King, and goes into the Hall as a Yankee after 14 seasons with the team, it’s a crime NOT to retire his number. Even if the steroid thing is held against him and he doesn’t make the Hall (which I don’t think will be a problem- a player as good as him will get in anyway), he still should have his number retired.
I think the Yanks should abandon the 2-number system.
Retire them all…
The Yanks started it… based on position in lineup. And are one of the few teams that doen’t have names on jerseys. Maybe there is something new? Favorite beverage? ;o)
Go back to no numbers. I keep waiting to see a Yankee “throwback” jersey.
"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."
I think they should make a close-line in the OF
and hang a player’s cleats over it. Make sure their name is engraved in it of course.
Either that or their jock strap. If they wear no jock strap..well….maybe they wear a “bro”?
Manzier!
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by I'mGivingYouARaise on May 26, 2010 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions
As mentioned before, I don't think every "Core Four" member...
Needs their number retired. I think Posada and Pettitte may be deserving of plaques, but probably not retired numbers. They don’t need to abuse number retirement now.
Did you know Joe Morgan thinks Cano will win a batting title one day?
I think a plaque to honor the ‘96-’00 dynasty would be appropriate.
"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."
Don't give a great Yankees # to roster filler
Seeing #14 on Luis Sojo and the like, nice guys all, still annoys me. Sweet Lou was money. Doesn’t belong retired, but Luis Sojo, really?
As for Billy Martin and Joe Torre, Did Joe McCarthy ever wear a number? Or was it just the players? I’m not that old. And if you consider Horace Clarkes considerable skills and add that to Jorge’s #20 can go up in monument park.
And did somebody really say Elston Howards # was retired in part because he was the Yank’s first black player? Man, I don’t remember Elston much as a player, but as a member of the coaching staff, he was always a class act. I can’t imagine he would have been thrilled at being honored so highly for his genetic lineage when he worked so hard and took a lot of crap to be a top flight professional baseball player. A Real Yankee. Maybe it was partly because he invented the weighted donut. Makes as much sense.
by Do it do it again on May 26, 2010 5:44 PM EDT reply actions
McCarthy did not. Neither did Miller Huggins. They have a plaque and a monument, respectively.
"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."
You know, I'm all for retiring Luis Sojo's number.
Best bench player ever, and has the famous “Hey Coney, why don’t you have a dance?” quote.
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by I'mGivingYouARaise on May 26, 2010 6:52 PM EDT reply actions
Luis Sojo was one of my favorite ballplayers with the Yanks
dude always manager to dribble piss a ground ball up the middle in the clutch
sadah tah
by FreeBradshaw on May 27, 2010 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I may be an idiot
wasn’t Luis # 19? Perhaps I’m thinking of the Pedro killer, Enrique Wilson.
by Do it do it again on May 27, 2010 10:07 AM EDT reply actions
Yes, Luis Sojo wore #19
as did Luis Polonia.
Pinella was #14
sadah tah
by FreeBradshaw on May 27, 2010 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions
But would you hang him in Monument Park?
"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."
Why not, that's as good a place as any to hang Winn
Better there, than anywhere near the batters box.
Is there such a thing as TOO many good players??
- is good as retired, #42 has been retired across MLB but obviously will be out there for Mariano. Those two are solidly awaiting retirement.
If Andy Pettitte didn’t leave for Houston, his number would be retired because he would have the most wins by a Yankee pitcher in history. I don’t think they retire his number.
Jorge Posada is definitely an interesting one. Arguably top 5 hitting catcher of all time.. not the greatest defensively but still very solid. Jury is out on Posada I think. If I had to guess.. I would say he doesn’t get it retired.
I love Bernie Williams but I don’t think the Yankees will retire his number.
No way Paul O’Neill’s number is retired… a truly great “warrior” but spent 7 or 8 years with the Reds during his career. I don’t see him joining the hall of fame so I don’t see him in monument park.
Alex Rodriguez… I believe it comes down to how many more championships he helps the Yankees win. The 2009 WS definitely helped his cause… as of now no way. Steroid controversy is also something to take into account.
Joe Torre… how quickly New Yorkers forget. Led the Yankees to the playoffs every year he spent with the team… virtually erased 18 years of failure… boasted 6 pennant winning seasons and 4 world championships. His departure was handled very poorly by the Yankee organization. I can’t wait for him to come back to the stadium and receive a tremendous standing ovation Hideki Matsui Opening Day 2010 worthy. #6 will be retired.
Home is in Section 201 Row 24.
whoops
- is good as retired ****
Home is in Section 201 Row 24.
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