A Rant on the Rally
The rally came up short. With the tying run on second and none out, Joe G ordered a sac bunt from Cervelli. You've got 3 out before you lose the game. You have 3 chances at a hit, or 2 chances for a hit/ 1 chance for a sac fly. It doesn't make sense to give up one of those outs just to advance the runner from second to third.
But that's what happened and that's not what I want to rant about.
Thames worked a walk before Juan Miranda grounded out to the pitcher. Randy Winn came up, he worked the count full, before striking out.
But that's not what I want to rant about.
Injuries happen. Curtis Granderson got DL'd and Swisher is day-to-day; that means Thames and Winn are going to see more playing time. Nick Johnson got hurt and that means Juan Miranda will be in the lineup. Posada is a 38 year old catcher. That means Cervelli gets a lot of playing time.
I do think there are better options out there. I might try to sign Jermaine Dye. I'm not interested in Pat Burrell or Gary Sheffield or Joe Crede or Elijah Dukes. I know there are many posters here who want Dye, and plenty of others who are leery of a right hand hitting outfielder with an average -20 UZR over the last 4 years who is coming off a negative WAR.
Here's the rant: I trust that Brian Cashman has tried to sign Jermaine Dye. Dye's agent surely has called Cash and said, "He'll play for $x, he'll need y days to be ready, he wants to get at least z ABs per week." Cashman has thought about the team, the state of the roster, the payroll- and he's decided that the team he has is the team he wants.
The other guys are coming back- Granderson, Swisher, Posada, maybe even Nick Johnson- and the bench players will go back to the bench. In the meantime, I hope the little guys hit enough and that the pitching and the All-Stars step up.
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Jetes, Tex, Joba, Javy, D-Rob, and Marte
We are looking at you. Cashman could go out and get a bunch of different supporting players but if these guys don’t start stepping up, they are going to have trouble catching up with the Rays. Marte, for one, needs to better than a LOOGY.
I think the Yankees are fine.
The injury to Swisher is probably the worst of all. He can only bat right handed, and the Yankees could use a left handed bat in the outfield. Jermaine Dye is just too terrible defensively and the Yankees have enough DHs. The Yankees could always go and trade for Eric Hinske or maybe Jim Edmonds. Maybe the recently demoted Alex Gordon could be had. I would just avoid Dye until all options are exhaust. Plus, the Yankees have a couple of players underperforming like DJ.
Scoring runs isn’t the problem. The defense has been terrible of late, and the bullpen have blown a couple of games.
+1
Dye would be useless. He’s just a DH, and a RH batter at that.
He doesn’t help the bullpen so it just doesn’t add up.
Just keep winning
by FreeBradshaw on May 19, 2010 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't think Dye is much of an upgrade
It’ll only be another week-2 weeks before we have Swisher and Granderson back, which resolves the outfield for the time being. As for DH, Thames can hit lefties. What we may need is a lefty option at the position to platoon him with (preferably someone who can play a respectable corner OF also). I’m not sure who’s out there who fits that bill. I guess I’d give Miranda 100 plate appearances or so. If he isn’t any good, Carlos Delgado might be a fit, although neither of those guys can help out in the OF. Delgado won’t be game ready until June, but does anyone really think Nick Johnson’s coming back in July? I know I don’t.
by Let's Talk About Tex Baby on May 19, 2010 12:10 PM EDT reply actions
The easiest solution to the problems of the last couple of days would be to find a
way for Joba to stop sucking.
The bullpen needs to get its shit together.
The offense can only put up so many runs before they’re squandered by teh pen!
The pen has been terrible
I can’t remember the last time I had such little confidence in our bullpen. It may be the worst in the Majors.
I can
First half of last season
by HappyLuckyGoldenDragonNumber1! on May 19, 2010 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Seems like a rant on the relief pitching is more in order....
5 runs is enough to win a game. The bullpen blew up 2 games in a row to the Sox. Soooooo…..bunting doesn’t seem to be the major issue. We’ve all seen the Yanks become victims in big games of leadoff guy gets on, bunt him over, and before you know it the Yanks lose.
Get the bullpen worked out and it’ll be fine.
I think the Yanks should carry a 3rd catcher and make Posada the DH 80% of the time. He’s 38 and is getting hurt. As DH he won’t get beat up so much.
going by the book
when is JOE gonne realize, when its the REDSUX & yanks, you can throw out the F***ing book, it doesn’t matter…. many things lead to the loss lastnight, leaving too many runners on base, tex pop up w/ bases loaded, 2 errors, randy wynn playing 10 feet behind jeter….giving up an out with the sac bunt… hope lastnight doesn’t come back to bite us in the ass later in the season, now please win the next 2 games vs tampa…
The Yankees had a 5 run lead in the 8th inning...
They lost because of bad Joba and crappy defense. I guess they could have scored 10 more runs but it might be easier to just fix the problems that actually blew the game.
Jumping the gun are we?
It’s been a tough season so far, but it’s not as bad as people are making it out to be. Once A-Rod and Tex heat up, we’ll be back again. Then Grandy comes back, followed by NJ(don’t know if that’s an upgrade). It’s a weak part of the season, but all teams have one.
Oh, and just consider: We’ve just won a series and split against a rival. And fans are angry. Kind of shows you how good we are, doesn’t it?
It’s the bullpen we should be worrying about. Nobody other than Mo is reliable right now. Nobody. It was our strong point last season, and now it’s turned into a weak one.
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A-Rod and Tex are heated up
That is not the problem. Our bullpen is horrendous and our bench players are sub par. I’ve said for years now, as Jeter’s bat goes, so go the Yankees. Until he heats up again, the offense is what it is. Our off season moves are proving to be terrible moves, every one of them. If and until Cashman makes a move for a bat we can expect more of the same.
Why was Winn playing so shallow in LF in 9th inning?
Thames’ error in the 9th was excusable—wind and rain blowing the ball around. But why in god’s name was Winn playing so shallow in LF? In a tie game?? Against a power hitter who likes to go the other way? The ball hit by Hemida landed on the grass. Ball was hit hard but it should have been an easy catch. Red Sox did their best to give this game away, but Yankees insisted on being more generous.
I actually like
Juan Miranda, I think he should get more chances. No, its not because he hit a HR last night. He has been a productive hitter at AAA every year so far. I think if he gets more opportunities he can show his talent at MLB level. Hes still young. While NJ is out, DH spot is available for rotation. He is a lefty so he should DH against RHP, while Thames DH’s (ONLY DH, PLEASE, JOE!) against LHP. Plus he can give Tex a breather at 1B. I don’t thnk we need another DH via FA.
by CervelliAlmighty on May 19, 2010 1:45 PM EDT reply actions
You Have To Wonder ..
Ajax never got his chance because we were overstocked last year (Damon, Melky, Swish, Gardner, Hairston, Matsui). This year the OF is so thin Golson gets a chance …
Hmmn…
by NY on May 19, 2010 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I believe no roster moves are necessary
and here’s why.
Because we lost, there is a lot of talk about how the bullpen needs to get their stuff together. And because we lost with Winn at the plate after Thames had basically blown Mo’s save in the field, we’re talking about who the yanks might be able to sign for OF/DH.
If Winn gets a hit and we go on to win, sure we’d still be mentioning how sloppy the game was, but it would be in the context of “wow, we got away with one there, but we swept the series, everything is great in NY and bring on the Rays!” I don’t think we’d be calling for any changes. Just my guess.
We don't play for the wild card around here kid
*check that. not a save situation for Mo
but you get my point.
We don't play for the wild card around here kid
0kay so exactly how long will Swisher be out?
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by ReprezentinNJerz on May 19, 2010 2:39 PM EDT reply actions
Who knows. I’m glad he hasn’t hit the DL.
by Scooby Snacks on May 19, 2010 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I think we should give the bullpen at least through the Rays series to get figured out
These things do actually happen. Not to the Yankees and not 3 games in a row, but it can actually happen that someone goes out and gives up a couple big hits in a close game. That being said, I think if the pen doesn’t do better tonight and tomorrow night, then we have a serious problem.
My solution to this (unpopular as it would be) would be to switchthe entire pen with SWB (Mo and Joba included) for a week/10 days. Hopefully the AAA pen would at least hold its own through the Mets series. Playing the Twins on the road could pose a problem, but (not knowing anything about our pitching in AAA) they certainly couldn’t do worse than blowing a 5-run lead! The Indians are a joke, so we might not even need good outings from the pen during that series.
Being at the AAA level for one or two full rotations would give the pen time to figure itself out without putting important games on the line at the Major League level. At the same time, we might discover some “diamonds in the rough” hiding out in the SWB pen that are even better than DRob, Marte, Logan.
All of this being said, our record would almost certainly suffer while the pen is “finding itself” in AAA, but it certainly couldn’t hurt us going into the rest of the season to have a fully-functional bullpen.
Wha?
Dude, you crazy. There’s a reason the guys in AAA are in AAA and the guys in our pen are in our pen. Sure, they’ve been shaky recently, and maybe it would be advisable to swap a couple of them with promising minor leaguers, but the whole pen…including Mariano? That’s just madness. And in case you forgot, this is Sparta.
If you read the whole thing, I only suggested putting them there for a maximum of 10 days, not a permanent switch! Yes, there is a reason we have these guys in our pen, and yes there is a reason we have the AAA guys in the AAA pen. My suggestion is not to completely replace Mo, Joba, and the rest with the guys in SWB, it’s to give Mo, Joba, and the rest a chance to recover if the problems persist tonight. If they don’t, it’s a moot point. If they do, the pen might need the recovery time.
if the pen blows up again today..
they should still not do your plan….
Just keep winning
by FreeBradshaw on May 19, 2010 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions
On top of crazy
There are so many rules that prevent this.
Only players with options may be optioned to the minor leagues without passing through waivers. You think Mariano Rivera will clear waivers?
Plays sent down to AAA can only be recalled after 10 days, so even if you could send the ENTIRE MLB pen to AAA, you’d have to live with the AAA pen in the bigs for 10 full days before you could make a single move.
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Good point
I didn’t actually realize there were rules governing that (kind of stupid of me not to).
Anyways, it was really more of a hypothetical idea. I didn’t think they would actually do it.
Dude
this is one step further than TO TEH PEN! You actually want to take the guys that have been sent to teh pen, and send them to AAA.
AAA TO TEH PEN!!!!! TEH PEN TO AAA!!!!!
This is the stuff of pinstripe alley legend.
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well..lets not do that...
Just keep winning
by FreeBradshaw on May 19, 2010 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
hmmm
how about we just send down the entire team and send up the entire AAA team?
by CAyankeesfan on May 19, 2010 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Which position player is Cashman going to send down today
to make room for yet another pitcher from Scranton who won’t actually be used in a game? At this rate, the Yanks won’t even be able to field a team, unless CC volunteers to play left field.
according to yahoo sports
we sent golson down and called up melancon
by CAyankeesfan on May 19, 2010 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions
So, according to lohud, no Jorge and no Swisher today
Which means no right fielder (unless you really really want to count Thames as one) and the famous Thames – Miranda – Winn bottom of the lineup.
Burnett’s gonna have to pitch his tail off tonight.
Now?
Posada is getting an MRI for “precautionary reasons”, could have done that three days ago, I say?
Stay thirsty my friends.
I'll BRB. Gonna hop in my Time Machine and prevent Cashman from doing everything he did ever...

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by I'mGivingYouARaise on May 19, 2010 5:16 PM EDT reply actions
bullpen and nothing more right now
First of all, you’re wrong about small ball. The whole idea of small ball is to move a guy to third so you can score a run without getting a hit. CLEARLY, there is logic behind it. HOWEVER, Girardi was wrong in THAT PARTICULAR situation to bunt Cervelli because Cervelli is an excellent contact hitter with a short swing who has been ON FIRE with RISP and is the perfect guy for just poking a single to right field…..not to mention we were relying on our bottom three after Cervelli (our bench essentially) to hit the ball out of the infield against Papelbon.
However, the bullpen is the one and only concern for this team. Granderson will be back and the ONLY offensive weakness will be our DH spot unless Jorge fills that. We still lack much depth outside of our starting lineup, but not much you can do now about that. Once again though, the bullpen is a major problem right now and unless there is a worthwhile reliever available (which there isn’t obviously), simply put, Joba and Robertson are going to HAVE TO, HAVE TO HAVE TO get their acts together and start pitching well consistently. How Joba loses 5-6MPH on his fastball in a week totally blows my mind. Mariano Rivera will be fine.
























