The Tools of Ignorance: Saturday News
by jscape2000 on May 15, 2010 12:26 AM EDT
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PrintThe offense awoke last night in a big way: Gardner, Tex, Arod, and Cano all provide 2 hit performances.
However, I try to never let offense overshadow pitching and defense.
It was good AJ into the 7th inning. It was also normal Marte: one out, 2 hits, one IBB, one run charged to him and another inherited runner scored. Normally, I'd be willing to cut Marte some slack since Mauer and Morneau are probably the two best lefties in the same line-up in MLB.
But, aside from one really great post season (thanks again, by the way), Marte has been mediocre since his return to the AL.
To underscore this, last night's official score actually decided that even though Marte was the pitcher of record when the Yanks took the lead, Joba Chamberlain (who struck out the side) deserved to be credited with the win. I would have given it to AJ, but that's just me.
The sale of the Texas Rangers is getting very, very interesting. Legally, Selig probably can't force the Rangers' creditors to accept below market value for the team.
MLB could take control of the Rangers, as they did for the Expos, though baseball would obviously prefer that Nolan Ryan's group place the high bid. Would MLB take a minority stake in the team in order to ensure that the Texas Hall of Famer gets into ownership?
The Blue Jays won and the Rays lost, so the Yanks are now one game back for the division lead, and 5 games ahead of the third place team.
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Marte allowed Burnett’s inherited runner to score (which tied game), that automatically eliminates AJ from being elgible for a win. Since Marte did not “hold” the lead, it’s left up
to the official scorer. He blew the hold situation, therefore the scorer gave the win to Joba.
If he left that half inning tied, rather than giving up the lead, chances are he would have got the win.
I actually looked up the rule last night...
Because despite Michael Kay’s protests I can’t remember an official scorer ever not giving the win to the pitcher who was in the game when the winning team went ahead before.
So basically it’s this: The official scorer is allowed to use his judgment and not award the win to the pitcher of record if that pitcher was especially ineffective. The rulebook defines ineffectiveness as allowing 2 or more runs (inherited runs count) in less than 1 full inning of work. Since Marte fit that criteria last night, the official scorer was free to award the win to either Joba or Mariano. He is not allowed to award the win to the starter or to any pitcher who pitched before the winning team took the lead for the final time.
by Let's Talk About Tex Baby on May 15, 2010 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Surprised with all this complaining about Marte
The guy has been lights out as a Yank, only one bad performance which took place tonight. Note Sarcasm.
I'm glad you added the caveat about the sarcasm
When I first started reading your post I almost choked on my cold pizza before I got to the end. Marte had a decent post season, as stated by jscape2000, and that’s about all he has contributed since joining the Yankees. Maybe we should save him for the post season…
Wow
You can’t please anyone around here with an 8-4 win over the Twins. Damn. I’m glad the players don’t read this crap, they’d have serious issues.
Guys, we just won a game by 4 runs. Sure, some pitchers are having issues, but the thing is we WON!
Why is it necessary for someone here to always find something negative about every game? Why can’t we say: Good AJ showed up, the offense kicked butt, and we won the game. And then we move on?
Like my niece says (who’s Daddy is a Mets fan): Go Yankees!
P.S. my comment is related to one comment on this thread and then more on the fan posts.
Indeed!
And I would go even further and say to slant it that way the rest of the season. Cervelli should be the new every day catcher. Jorge can DH, spot catch, and be a needed bat off the bench.
Too bad we couldn’t have unloaded Marte to Detroit instead of Coke. Since we can’t have a do over with the Tigers, perhaps we could send Marte down until he awakes from hibernation (maybe around september) and then let him do what he did last year in the postseason.
Not as easy as it looks.
If we had Jorge and Cervelli playing at the same time:
Cervelli goes down? Who is our catcher? We can’t just put Jorge at catcher and DH Thames the rest of the game you know.
Both go down: We’d have to call up a catcher (most likely Romine; sorry Montero fans), as far as I’ve seem/heard, we don’t want to be cluttering up Roster space with three catchers, especially when management has been calling up and sending down people like crazy.
I want this as much as the next guy, but I like NJ so when he gets back I still hope he is the DH. If we can wait for Tex to heat up, we can show patience for NJ.
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by Gelatin on May 15, 2010 8:29 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
you need a catcher on the bench.
If the unfathomable happens and Cervelli gets hurt, they you gotta give up the DH and have Jorge catch…and who knows when it happens, maybe the pitcher’s gotta bat the whole game.
You can’t do that.
And also, teh Yanks are banged up right now. WAY too banged up to carry 3 catchers.
Just keep winning
by FreeBradshaw on May 15, 2010 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions
How long is Posada's contract? Johnson's?
Think Yanks have Jorge for a few more years. Not sure on Nick.
A transition from FT catcher to PT catcher to FT DH is in order for Posada. It is just a question of timing.
IMO he should be FT catcher this year but less than in years past – say 120 games or so. Keep Cervelli in the mix.
Jorge and NJ's contracts
Posada’s contract is up after the 2011 season. Nick Johnson’s contract is up after the 2010 season with an option for 2011. I agree that the Yankees should call up a third catcher and give Posada more time at DH. Cervelli appears to be a better hitter than anyone we currently have at the DH spot, and having him in the game improves the defense at the same time.
by Let's Talk About Tex Baby on May 15, 2010 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions
It's
possible they will do that in time, especially if Johnson will be out for awhile (he won’t be back here next year, can’t stay healthy), early in season, want to give Miranda an opportunity.
They won’t bring up Montero until the rosters expand in Sept., if at all this year. Moeller
is a veteran insurance policy, for a third catcher.
by Great Gatsby on May 15, 2010 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions
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