Wheeew... Yanks win nail-biter, 6-4
by Travis G on Apr 6, 2010 11:03 PM EDT
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It came down to the last batter again, but in reverse, as the Yanks held on to a two-run lead.
Neither Burnett nor Lester were especially good. Each lasted five frames and gave up four runs (only three earned for A.J.). Both teams, as usual, made the pitchers work: they threw exactly 94 pitches each (with Burnett actually having a higher strike %).
The hero(es) of this game were really the Yankee relievers, who totally shut down Boston's lineup: 4 ip, 0 r, 2 h, 0 bb, 3 k. Aceves threw two, D-Rob came in and promptly gave up a hit, Marte recorded an error and an out, but was bailed out by Joba, who struck out Adrian Beltre and J.D. Drew in succession. Mo closed out the game after allowing a hit to Marco Scutaro by retiring 'Smeagol' on one pitch.
Play of the Game: Nick Johnson's two-out, bases-loaded walk. It upped the Yankees' chances of winning by 21%. It's so refreshing to see a patient hitter like him come up to the plate without a hint of pressure and not swing at pitches out of the zone. It seems that just knowing NJ is at the plate puts pressure on hurlers, which actually seems to cause more walks. His OBP after two games: .500.
Comment of the Game: 'incoltswetrust', for his line about Cano and 'protection.' (Honorable mention to 'Jipeon' for his invention of 'Smeagol' as a nickname for Pedroia.)
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Fucking Nick Johnson
Piece of junk.
Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.
? he drove in the winning run
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by incoltswetrust on Apr 6, 2010 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions
cervelli shall smite you for such comments casanova!
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by incoltswetrust on Apr 6, 2010 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Dude that walk got him an all important RBI
Now we know he’s a good player!
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that was a game winning one.
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by incoltswetrust on Apr 6, 2010 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I wish game winning walks counted more in Fantasy
I’ll take the RBI and BB, though.
Usqueadbaugham! Anam muck an dhoul ! Did ye drink me doornail?
+1
FIREEE GIRARDIIIII!!!! Now our bullpen is shot because he over-managed.
by Scooby Snacks on Apr 6, 2010 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I know
We need a faster 2 hitter
by yankeechaser on Apr 6, 2010 11:22 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
like cervelli.
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by incoltswetrust on Apr 6, 2010 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions
or cano
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by incoltswetrust on Apr 6, 2010 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions
or not
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by incoltswetrust on Apr 6, 2010 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Once again
I like how people don’t read what I actually write. Show me where I put down Nick Johnson. Oh you can’t. Good for you!
by HappyLuckyGoldenDragonNumber1! on Apr 6, 2010 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions
what are you talking about this was your first comment on this thread?
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by incoltswetrust on Apr 6, 2010 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Yay for short term memory!
by HappyLuckyGoldenDragonNumber1! on Apr 6, 2010 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions
i didn't even see it, i was watching the game, intensely
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by incoltswetrust on Apr 6, 2010 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions
You have every right to stand by your convictions. However, you went off into arguing semantics in that other thread which always leads to nowhere.
by Scooby Snacks on Apr 6, 2010 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions
semantics?
Please explain how I did that? You mean by trying to use logic? Yeah I confuse people when I do that.
by HappyLuckyGoldenDragonNumber1! on Apr 6, 2010 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions
someone shine some light on what's going on?
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by incoltswetrust on Apr 6, 2010 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Go read the 1000 posts on the Matsui fanpost
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Yes using RBI over OBP is logical
you can tell by the way every person who has spent any time studying baseball in the past 20 or so years has come to the opposite conclusion.
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Yay! Once again completely changing what I was saying and not reading a word!
I will restate one last time for the kids:
In a clutch spot where there is a runner is scoring position OBPs value is diminished and so is Slg%. All that really matters is driving in a run. So therefore you can simply extrapolate RBI per PA as a more indicative ratio of success than OPS. Simply because a walk is less valuable than a hit in most cases (tonight’s awesome display of plate patience by NJ the outlier) and the kind of hit is less valuable than whether or not the run was scored. Not to say OPS is not useful just a little misleading. In determining who is a great hitter OPS is the best single stat, simply look at the OPS leaders last season. This particular case we are looking at a specific circumstance. There. I said my peace. But I am sure your ADHD prevented you from reading past “Yay!”
by HappyLuckyGoldenDragonNumber1! on Apr 6, 2010 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions
The hit, which probably would have driven in 2 runs there would of upped win % far more than 1RBI walk.
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by incoltswetrust on Apr 6, 2010 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Witty, but still wrong
You fail to realize that by not making an out, another hitter gets an EVEN BETTER chance.
So if there’s a runner on 2nd, and Johnson draws a walk, he doesn’t get the RBI, but now Tex and A-Rod come to the plate with 2 runners aboard.
And saying Matsui has had more RBI is ridiculous since he played for the Yankees and Johnson played for the Nationals. Matsui has had a slightly higher batting average, so you could say the following:
Matsui is slightly more likely to drive the runner in ~.010 to .020 points of average
Johson is much more likely to allow Teixeira to get to the plate ~ .050 points of OBP
Matsui’s slight advantage in average doesn’t even come close to making up for Johnson’s ability to avoid outs. When you add in the age factor and Johnson’s ability to play the field it’s not even close.
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Late to the party
Is this genius really complaining about NJ’s game-winning RBI? What was Johnson supposed to do, try to swing at ball 4?
By "this genius"
I mean HappyLuckyGoldenDragonNumber1!, of course.
No
It’s a debate that dates back to a Matsui thread on the right.
by Scooby Snacks on Apr 6, 2010 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions
No he is lamenting that NJ is on the team and Matsui is not
which isn’t all that unreasonable, but I take offense at the big flaws in his argument.
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I think we all miss Godzilla
But there are a ton of reasons why the offseason moves were made this way, and we know them all. We just have to live with the fact that it’s not us who’s spending all that money.
I take offense at the timing
NJ shows great discipline and gets the RBI that proves to be the game-winner. Yeah, sure, it’s a one-time thing but it’s hard to argue that NJ is consistent at getting on base and so he is a great player to have up with the bases loaded.
^^^^^^ This.
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by incoltswetrust on Apr 6, 2010 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions
RBIs
RBIs are so confounding, in the statistical sense of the word. The fact that Johnson played on the Nats and Matsui on the Yankees, makes this point incredibly clear.
Comparing their RBIs from the previous year is utterly asinine.
Ummm no
As Travis pointed to the stats called High Leverage which basically is a hitter line in “Late & Close are PA in the 7th or later with the batting team tied, ahead by one, or the tying run at least on deck.” The stats are here:
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?n1=matsuhi01&year=Career&t=b
So therefore it does not matter what team the batter is on. What is means is with the opportunities for such a PA what does that player do?
So if you look at them both in the high leverage category the disagreement was that OPS was the most telling stat. I personally disagree, I think the ratio that matters is runs driven in per high leverage PA. Which Matsui clearly has done at significantly higher rate. So therefore it doesn’t matter if you are on the Nationals or Yankees a high leverage PA simply means exactly what the quote I posted says.
by HappyLuckyGoldenDragonNumber1! on Apr 7, 2010 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Ahh
The crucial point is that you didn’t say “high leverage PA,” you just said “PA.” I didn’t understand your point. I thought you were including all PAs.
So I agree with your point, insofar as NJ even has enough high leverage PAs to make the statistics reliable.
And
Before you bitch about all this being in your previous post (wherever the hell that might be), you’re the one who brought this crap into this thread with no reference.
He has a very similar sample size
Matsui is older but has played half his career in Japan.
by HappyLuckyGoldenDragonNumber1! on Apr 7, 2010 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions
So by clutch you mean
Let the guy that gets paid more drive it in? Hmmm that is a new definition. But once again you didn’t read anything I wrote on the other post so what is the use.
by HappyLuckyGoldenDragonNumber1! on Apr 7, 2010 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions
All...
I could think of when he gets drilled in the ribs witht hat pitch, is the guy is an accident waiting to
happen…I hope you all saw that dribble from the clown at “over the monster” blaming the
non-Angel for Johnson’s walk. Are you friggin kidding me? Mo throws a two strike pitch right down the middle at the knees to Scutaro and he calls it a ball, next pich he doubles. The third strike on Tex earlier in the game with Lester pitching was outside. What game was that clown watching, putting up graphs is not how a game is called moron…Since I had to watch the game on NESN, the Eck man called Lester the best LH pitcher in baseball. Gee, Eck, he might win at least win one CY Young award first?
Why are they talking about Joba
The story is Aceves, Burnett and the patience of the offense.
"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."
Its always Joba
he gave a fist pump you know.
What did I tell ya? Hard ons..all of em.
by FreeBradshaw on Apr 6, 2010 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions
still not as sexy as that fistpump by cervelli during the ATL game last year, when he hit a HR
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by incoltswetrust on Apr 6, 2010 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions
dude you know that was a the spark for the yankees offense
but seriously in all honestly that was the turning point in the season…cuz i remember the yanks ready to drop an other series and everything just picked up after that
that wasnt a spark that was his sign for a WS win.
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by incoltswetrust on Apr 6, 2010 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Burnett
was medicore, all four starters in this series have been, not a big surprise with 3:45 games,
the teams make pitchers work…I just get annoyed when pitchers’ are given the lead back, they cough it back up, but it’s early.
Well never having pitched
I would assume this early in the season the muscles are not as limber as normal and they still have to shake the rust off. I would assume a pitcher doesn’t pitch in the offseason in case of injury whereas a hitter can always work in the cage in the winter.
by HappyLuckyGoldenDragonNumber1! on Apr 7, 2010 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions
yay, im in the news!
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off topic: kevin durant the best player in the NBA, go Thunder.
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this is fucking rediculous!!!! kevin durant is making it rain in cervelli land. you have got to see this.
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by incoltswetrust on Apr 6, 2010 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Can we finally trade Cervelli so this joke can finally die?
by HappyLuckyGoldenDragonNumber1! on Apr 6, 2010 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions
this joke shall never die, just like cervelli himself.
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by incoltswetrust on Apr 6, 2010 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions
It's about as tired as Dana Carvey doing his George Bush Sr impersonation
by HappyLuckyGoldenDragonNumber1! on Apr 6, 2010 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions
or frank caliendo with his Madden impersonation, which is totally awesome, still.
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by incoltswetrust on Apr 6, 2010 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions
:P
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by incoltswetrust on Apr 6, 2010 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions
who me?
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by incoltswetrust on Apr 7, 2010 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions
ohh, well im not a regular either, this is my 2nd game here lol
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by incoltswetrust on Apr 7, 2010 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions
A few pointers:
1) Cervelli is God
2) Fire Girardi!
3) Everyone/Joba to teh pen!
There are many others, but I’ve forgotten most of them.
Something to do with Joba and ejaculation
though I think FreeBradshaw has a monopoly on that one
joba is cervelli's right hand man, ohh wait that would be Serge Ibaka, Joba can be the left hand man.
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by incoltswetrust on Apr 7, 2010 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah I am brand new never been here before yesterday
Oh and I am not here to win points
by HappyLuckyGoldenDragonNumber1! on Apr 7, 2010 1:09 AM EDT up reply actions
yea, and KD to the rotation!
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by incoltswetrust on Apr 6, 2010 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh my god
Imagine the way his jumpshot would play up in teh pen.
The Cavs should totally sit LeBron until the last 5 minutes of the game, then he could come in and play REALLY HARD in the CLUTCH SITUATIONS!!!!!!
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lebron isnt even clutch.
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by incoltswetrust on Apr 6, 2010 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah I could tell by that time that he scored 25 straight points to beat the Pistons
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i remeber, but that was 1 game
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by incoltswetrust on Apr 6, 2010 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Durant is not HWSNBN
Durant does not rebound or dish out assists like HWNSNBN
Its a god damn joke to think Durant is as good as him. Durant as a pure scorer from all over the court, yes is better.
But you gotta be a real thick headed individual to think that simply scoring is what makes you good and/or better then someone.
The guy is a 6"8 270lbs Point guard.
If anyone wanted to take Durant on their team over him…it would be like someone drafted Greg Oden first, then Durant second.
Free?
What is this HWNSNBN all about? BTW, Greg Oden= Sam Bowie II
hes only made like 1 game winning shot in his career and he hasnt won a championship. unlike my boy DWade!
durant just went on 12-0 run to force OT, Thunder was down 12 with 1:30 to go, that's what i call clutch
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by incoltswetrust on Apr 6, 2010 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions
sry, didn't know this wasn't free chat. we should make a thread just for free chat.
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sorry but dwade takes waaay to many shots, he wont last long.
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E.L.E
You know the rules fellas, E.L.E
Yanks take first step at twenty F’n eight!!
by ricochetrico on Apr 6, 2010 11:52 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
looks like elvis is in the building in Utah, what a game!
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WOW
and the ref blows the game…. everyone watch sportcenter tonight. Thunder down by 1 with 1 sec left, inbounds to KD he gets SLAPPPPED on the wrist on a 3 point shot, you can see the wrist flap, no call, bout to go punch a midget in a fucking face, Tim Donaghy all over again. Lol at my fav announcer he started going off.
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Durant sucks
I’d rather have Oden.
The sad thing is that some people actually say that over on Blazersedge (without a trace of sarcasm too).
As a Portland fan, I am praying Oden becomes serviceable and wistfully dreaming of what might have been.
lol that is a joke, KD is a top 5 players in the nba right now.
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by incoltswetrust on Apr 7, 2010 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions
guess who is a scoring leader in the NBA, let me give you a clue its not Lebron.
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by incoltswetrust on Apr 7, 2010 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Lebron > Durant
Lebron is just as good of a scorer, a much better passer and a considerably better rebounder. Lebron is also a much better than defender.
I see Durant as the next George Gervin. Lebron is the next nobody, there simply has never been anything like him. It’s like someone genetically spliced Magic Johnson and Karl Malone.
I wont argue with LBJ being better, but KD is #2.
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by incoltswetrust on Apr 7, 2010 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions
He isn't well-rounded enough, in my opinion.
He may be the best pure scorer with Lebron a close second, but Durant is only an above average rebounder beyond that. He really doesn’t move the ball well and is an average defender at best.
Dwight Howard is a scoring threat, the best rebounder in the NBA, and probably the best post defender in the NBA.
KD may be #2 soon, but he needs to become a much better defender (has the length for that) and become a better passer (2.7 assists/game is not nearly good enough).
Kobe is clearly on the decline
he is overrated at this point. Still a great player but no longer deserves to be in the conversation for the greatest player in the game.
Yea..he does.
I hate the Lakers with a passion…but I’ll give Kobe the benefit of the doubt.
Also, that broken finger can’t help, now can it?
LeBron could easily be the scoring leader if he wanted to.
Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.
by CasanovaWong on Apr 7, 2010 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Close
Lebron could be the scoring leader if he HAD to.
He is better served in large stretches getting his teammates involved. I don’t believe it’s a matter of want.
Well I'm under the assumption
it is a concerted effort on his part to keep his teammates involved and spread the scoring around. His teammates scoring is more a function of him letting them score, not so much them being great players.
Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.
by CasanovaWong on Apr 7, 2010 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions
its definately
1. lebron
2. KD
3. Kobe (still ultimate clutch)
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KD does not impact a game the way the others do.
1) HWSNBN
2) Kobe
3) Dwight Howard (can’t win if you can’t score baskets)
4) Carmelo Anthony (Durant ain’t there yet)
5) Wade ( Durant just isn’t dishing like Wade yet)
6) Durant
That’s pretty good.
But leading the league in scoring does not make you the best player in the NBA. Durant has his rebound, but 2.8 assists per is not going to make him the best player in teh NBA just yet, let alone 2.
He’s gotta do it consistently like Melo too to be near him.
Also, assists are points. So when you add say…Durant’s 2.8 assists per, that’s another 5.6 points per game
But add D-Wade’s 6.6 assists per and you get an extra 13.2 points per.
That’s why Durant ain’t at that level yet.
Quit being a homer……
I wouldn't
put Carmelo in a top five, occasionally even in the NBA, you have to play some defense.
Durant doesn't do it consistently?
How many consecutive 25+ point games did he have? Better question: how many sub-20 point games has he had?
Durant is a more consistent scorer that perhaps anyone in the league (though Lebron’s lower scoring nights are because he has 15 assists).
Lebron was raised on PEDs
Guy looked 30 when he was 18. No one can be that big, that strong and that fast. These NBA dudes are ripped…they didn’t look like that 20 years ago.
by steelerwheeler on Apr 7, 2010 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions
You're talking about 2009
Melo’s been doing this since 2005.
Talk to me in 4 years. He ain’t Melo yet.
by FreeBradshaw on Apr 7, 2010 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions
You have to watch KD play to truly see his talent.
Look at his blocks per game, that’s got to give you some clue that he has improved greatly from his college days. I understand that doesn’t prove anything, but like I said you have to watch him play. He is a great rebounder, he doens’t get that many assist because Westbrook is a true point guard, KD rarely gets to handle the ball. His range is amazing, so are his 1 on 1 skills. He is the toughest player to guard next to you know know who. He is a better shooter than Lebron. He can drive to the basket, all he has to do is get stronger and he will be unstoppable in the paint. Ohh and who can argue with 90%+ at the free throw line, which is crucial because he gets to the line A LOT. If there is 1 knock on LBJ it is his free throws. Of course I am a fan of Durant, but all that I have said is true.
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by incoltswetrust on Apr 7, 2010 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions
first 2 sentences i was talking about his defense, if that was unclear.
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by incoltswetrust on Apr 7, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions
he's still gotta prove it for years first.
There’ no doubt he’s in the upper echelon of players. His team’s winning too with him at the helm.
Durant is basically Carmelo Anthony.
He’s not a overgrown PG like HWSNBN or Wade. He’s not Kobe..dead that, he’s just not friggin Kobe.
He’s Melo. That’s good..but I don’t have him above Melo yet, cuz Melo’s been doing this for a while.
he will be better than melo.
melo does not take over the game and score last 15 points for his team in the last 2 min of the game when they are down 12 points. Have never once seen that from melo. He should of won the game yesterday, he got hacked on a 3 point shot, those free throws would of won the game. everyone said that it was a foul and he should of been at the line for 3 shots while down by 1. but that’s ok, it just gives more publicity to KD and the Thunder. Also the difference between HWSNBN is that Durant is not alone, he has a great supporting cast. Players like Russ Westbrook and Jeff Green will be all-stars in couple of years. I think right now Westbrook is a top 6 PG in the game.
1. Rondo
2. Nash
3. Derron Williams
4. Paul (would be higher if not the injury)
5. Rose
6. Westbrook
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by incoltswetrust on Apr 7, 2010 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions
wow...
well, I guess this covo’s over.
You just put Rajon Fking Rondo as the best PG in the game.
Are you Tommy Heinshon or something ? Get the fk outta here with that BS
rondo is an absolute stud.
as much as i HATE the Celtics, i have to give him props. It’s close between him and Nash. Tell me who is playing better PG than Rondo?
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by incoltswetrust on Apr 7, 2010 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Deron Williams…maybe you saw him on that team that beat the Thunder last night?
that’s just one of many too…I’d take the others you listed over Rondo too as well as plenty more.
The guy’s a liability since he shoots like Shaq. They take him off the floor a lot at the end of games cuz he’s that bad at the line.
Kinda helps too when you play on a team like the Celtics too. Put Stephon Curry on the Celtics and watch that team not look like a bunch of geriatric women.
like i said its close but 1 2 3 are interchangeable
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by incoltswetrust on Apr 7, 2010 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions
i understand the hatred between NY and Boston, like i said i hate every Boston team too. But come on that guy is a beast, he’s gotta be atleast in the top 5.
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by incoltswetrust on Apr 7, 2010 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Nope.
Some others may not have the amount of dishes that Rondo has, but that’s mainly cuz they are asked to do more as a scorer.
I just can’t take a player that simply cannot shoot over others like jason Kidd or Aaron Brooks
I’d go
1)Deron Williams
2)Chris Paul
3)Chauncey Billups
4)Derrick Rose
5)Steve Nash
6)Russel Westbrook
7)Aaron Brooks
8)Jason Kidd
9)Baron Davis
10)Stephon Curry
Rondo may be #11, but at the very least I take all of those players over Rondo.
whatever, screw the celtics. as long as you have russ in top6 i am good.
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by incoltswetrust on Apr 7, 2010 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions
What about the Yanks?
Did MLB remove game-time from the box score? Was that 4 hours last night…I’m sleepy. Might be time for a pitch clock and/or some sort or rule discouraging middle inning pitching changes. It’s bad for the fans. Maybe award a ball to the next hitter?
Robbie Cano didn’t get a hit with RISP. All he did was sac fly, get on base all night, and mash a clutch HR. He should bat 9th :)
Jorge was -1 run behind the plate and a GIDP with the stick? Why doesn’t he get pulled for defense when Yanks have a lead? Yanks will need a third catcher on roster for that, dude might be asked to stand in LF once in a while like Marcus Thames did.
Ace was awesome, too bad he wasn’t efficient enough, throwing 23 pitches in 2 innings plus the error. basically 3.3 pitches per out. Must have been too tired to start the 8th, good plan to burn Robertson on 1 hitter, no way does Jorge let the opponent steal a base, manufacture a run and send it into extras. If Chan Ho got called on in the 10th last night I’da driven to Boston and slapped Joe in the face.
Granderson hit ball well but again failed with runner on third. Did get a hit off a lefty, but that’s not too impressive since lefties hit Lester just as well as righties.
Nick Johnson’s lack of hits and power really cost Yanks in 3 run fifth and decisive RBI/walk in the 8th. His lack of foot speed is clearly evident as he keeps walking to first all night. How dare he let the winning run walk across the plate and give a weak stick like Tex a chance to put the Yanks up 5. No way he should bat 2nd, poor Tex is gonna lead the league in runners left on if Johnson keeps this crap up. Come on, strike out, hit a long fly, drive in the run, something more entertaining than just leading the Yanks to victory with patience and a good eye. Maybe NJ should bat co-9th with Cano?
Glad to see Joba accept his role and look sharp. He’ll never start another game. Too bad, he could be giving the Yankees 5 strong with 4 or 5 runs like CC and AJ. Hell, can’t Swisher do that?
Dave Robertson will.
Joba will do what’s best long term..and that’s starting.
by FreeBradshaw on Apr 7, 2010 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions
i dunno
I am starting to be a convert. 96mph heat, wicked slider, nicely located curve ball.. what would we prefer? A lights out 8th inning guy who can become the next closer one day or an adequate number 3 pitcher.
by HappyLuckyGoldenDragonNumber1! on Apr 7, 2010 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Adequate number 3 pitcher
no questions asked.
This sticker is dangerous and inconvenient, but I do love Fig Newtons.
#3 pitcher.
Dave Robertson, or the next young player can develop into that setup man or closer.
Maybe the Yanks can draft an actual reliever, like a Daniel Bard one year? There’s our setup man/closer.
I’d rather develop a long term starter then a closer.
If Robertson’s double digit K/9 doesn’t excite you enough, there’s always Mark Melancon.
Plus everyone crowded out of the rotation in the McAllister, Nova, Man-Ban, et al.
"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."
Yeah it's a hard call
Because your point was my point all last season. I just think that with a lock down 8th and 9th you have a similar situation to 06 with Mo and Wettland. But I hear ya.
by HappyLuckyGoldenDragonNumber1! on Apr 7, 2010 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I just hope they leave him where he's at now.
Hughes too. Barring injury, just leave them where they’re at.
I don’t care if they stink, AJ goes on the DL with an infected nipple ring..I don’t care, leave them where they’re at..at least until the Hughes rules set in..then make a final decision with him.
I don’t want to see any flip flopping mid year
jorge
possada legs are gone time for possada to d.h. and let serv. do most of catching
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