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Yanks lose tough one, 9-7

CC, despite falling behind most hitters, was effective... until the sixth, when he lost command of his arsenal. Swisher misplaying a Youkilis liner certainly didn't help.

The double-steal featuring DJ and GGBG was a thing of beauty, and Girardi should get a lot of credit for that gutsy call. They 1) took advantage of the speed on the bases, 2) took advantage of a poor catcher in V-Mart, and 3) got a modicum of revenge for Ellsbury's steal of home last year.

There's a reason Pedroia's OPS is .140 higher at home than on the road. He can lift high pitches, which would be either fouls or outs at other stadiums and turn them into doubles or homers at Fenway. I won't kill Park too much: he got squeezed in that inning (especially on the 1-1 pitch to Pedroia).

That stupid wall turned Pedroia's and Youikilis' flies into hits while taking away a homer from Arod. Were there not enough reasons to hate the Red Sox?

Anyway, let's all take it easy. The Yanks lost eight straight to Boston last year and still managed to do okay (including a tough first-game loss at Fenway).

Star-divide

In my mind, it's better to lose a game by two runs than one. Then all the 'what-ifs' enter our heads. Getting beat by two means we can more easily say, 'it just wasn't our night.'

Not one of our pitchers looked particularly good. It sucks to have an off-day after a loss like this - thanks, MLB!

Our pitchers won't give up nine runs in most games. At the end of the day, it's one loss.

Play of the Game:

Pedroia's 7th-inning pop-homerun off Chan Ho. It upped Boston's chances of winning by 30%.

Comment of the Game:

'Free Bradshaw', way back at 10:08 (though I've got to tell you, the jerk-off lines will tire quickly).

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Anyone think Joe left CC in too long?

by Joe1969 on Apr 5, 2010 12:14 AM EDT reply actions  

Way too long

should have pulled him after the first guy got on.

by david d on Apr 5, 2010 4:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Were 1 back with not enough time to catch up

We need to trade for a power hitting left fielder and trade for Sweet Lou

I like it when people say jock strap and to the batmobile.There was an old women from wheelin who had a hell of a feelin,she laid on her back and tickled her crack,and pissed all over the ceiling.Soup Nazi says NO HO 4 YOU.

by cashman bashman on Apr 5, 2010 12:14 AM EDT reply actions  

LAST PLACE HERE WE COME!!!

Bullpen- Sucks, Joba needs to go. WAIT! He’s there already!!!!

Hughes, QUICK! throw away your starter glove, put on the setup glove and get IN TEH PEN!

CC- Lose weight, you can’t throw 5 innings you PORK CHOP.

Granderson, become a switch hitter.

Tex-WAKE UP!

Cano…you’re good.

TRADE HO PARK

by FreeBradshaw on Apr 5, 2010 12:15 AM EDT reply actions  

What? No no no trade of the HO PARK

I like it when people say jock strap and to the batmobile.There was an old women from wheelin who had a hell of a feelin,she laid on her back and tickled her crack,and pissed all over the ceiling.Soup Nazi says NO HO 4 YOU.

by cashman bashman on Apr 5, 2010 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

GGBG was pretty good tonight though.

All in all, a rough game but then I never expect to win Sunday Night ESPN games anyway.

"WHO WOULD LEAD?! THE CLOWN?!"

by I'mGivingYouARaise on Apr 5, 2010 12:17 AM EDT reply actions  

What was GGBG line tonight?

I like it when people say jock strap and to the batmobile.There was an old women from wheelin who had a hell of a feelin,she laid on her back and tickled her crack,and pissed all over the ceiling.Soup Nazi says NO HO 4 YOU.

by cashman bashman on Apr 5, 2010 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

He does lead the Majors in errors and has the worst fielding pct. in the Majors.

by david d on Apr 5, 2010 4:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

I will play

Girardi had no business leaving CC in that long, why didn’t he get Igawa to close it out? Look Scoobs and Davy I .Spaced after the period god damn it I’m funny

I like it when people say jock strap and to the batmobile.There was an old women from wheelin who had a hell of a feelin,she laid on her back and tickled her crack,and pissed all over the ceiling.Soup Nazi says NO HO 4 YOU.

by cashman bashman on Apr 5, 2010 12:17 AM EDT reply actions  

I was just playin’ along with Scoobs. Punctuation or the lack thereof doesn’t matter to me. We’re not writing college theses here…

by david d on Apr 5, 2010 4:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

theses, thesises, thesi?

"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."

by jscape2000 on Apr 5, 2010 8:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think we need a blockbuster trade

Maybe Joba, Montero, and GGBG for Doc Halladay

I like it when people say jock strap and to the batmobile.There was an old women from wheelin who had a hell of a feelin,she laid on her back and tickled her crack,and pissed all over the ceiling.Soup Nazi says NO HO 4 YOU.

by cashman bashman on Apr 5, 2010 12:24 AM EDT reply actions  

I think he is one who started liking baseball in 04

Remember last yr when those types kept saying 8 and 0?

I like it when people say jock strap and to the batmobile.There was an old women from wheelin who had a hell of a feelin,she laid on her back and tickled her crack,and pissed all over the ceiling.Soup Nazi says NO HO 4 YOU.

by cashman bashman on Apr 5, 2010 12:26 AM EDT reply actions  

What pics? I want to see to

I like it when people say jock strap and to the batmobile.There was an old women from wheelin who had a hell of a feelin,she laid on her back and tickled her crack,and pissed all over the ceiling.Soup Nazi says NO HO 4 YOU.

by cashman bashman on Apr 5, 2010 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

umm its in overflow 3 you'll spot'em

and i think you shouldn’t even try to find them

by Kevin L on Apr 5, 2010 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

The one Bradshaw sent?

Head in the ass?

I like it when people say jock strap and to the batmobile.There was an old women from wheelin who had a hell of a feelin,she laid on her back and tickled her crack,and pissed all over the ceiling.Soup Nazi says NO HO 4 YOU.

by cashman bashman on Apr 5, 2010 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

that and the two yanks and sox fans

for the reason it is a yanks and sox fan

by Kevin L on Apr 5, 2010 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

The bearded lovers?

I like it when people say jock strap and to the batmobile.There was an old women from wheelin who had a hell of a feelin,she laid on her back and tickled her crack,and pissed all over the ceiling.Soup Nazi says NO HO 4 YOU. Go Go Gadget Finger.

by cashman bashman on Apr 5, 2010 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

ya those two

no offense to bradshaw but i think those were a little to far

by Kevin L on Apr 5, 2010 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

that's the last time I'll use that one

…but I was laughing so hard I was in tears when I saw it at first

by FreeBradshaw on Apr 5, 2010 8:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

i beleive this is the first hr Park has given up ina while

unsurprisingly it comes on a hit that would be an out in 90% of parks. The pen seems to be shaky, then again it always has been in the beginning of the year. This game should the obvious homefield advantage the sox had…god now i wish ppl will shut up about the short porch in yankees stadium.

by lololol on Apr 5, 2010 12:33 AM EDT reply actions  

Sorry guys I have to go to bed before my mom catches me up after bedtime

I will get grounded with no TV & computer privelages.

I like it when people say jock strap and to the batmobile.There was an old women from wheelin who had a hell of a feelin,she laid on her back and tickled her crack,and pissed all over the ceiling.Soup Nazi says NO HO 4 YOU. Go Go Gadget Finger.

by cashman bashman on Apr 5, 2010 12:41 AM EDT reply actions  

Peace out

You can’t see but I’m flashing my gang signs.

I like it when people say jock strap and to the batmobile.Want to see my bubble gum? Soup Nazi says NO HO 4 YOU. Go Go Gadget Finger.

by cashman bashman on Apr 5, 2010 12:46 AM EDT reply actions  

games in april count the same as 1’s in sept… total bullshit, our BP blew 2 seperate leads, 5-1 lead, also ticked off we are defending WS champs & we have to start on the road & vs our most bitter rival. Defending champs should be given the right to open season @ home…. BUD selig is the biggest retard….Girardi already F*^%$ed up by sending CC out for 6th inning, this early in season, & dear god our BP sucks bad already, Park looks like a bad idea…..

by cmypath78 on Apr 5, 2010 1:17 AM EDT reply actions  

losing to red sox is 1 thing, letting Pedroia the Muppet beat you is another.

by cmypath78 on Apr 5, 2010 1:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

When i asked who was winning a kind fellow yankee said

’Yup…4-1 yanks up in the 4th…

The F happened??…..whatever happened… I blame lebron…fake ass yankee fan….

-Announcement Forwarded To The Following: Boston Blowsox, New York Pets, Philadelphia Phonies, And Any Other Team Who Ain't With The Empire.................

Getcha' Rings Up........

by NYYWinsRings27 on Apr 5, 2010 1:31 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I should have stayed home

This has got to be most depressing loss I’ve witnessed since watching the Marlins clinch the WS at YS.

by Scooby Snacks on Apr 5, 2010 2:21 AM EDT reply actions  

Enjoy it while it lasts, Frank.

"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."

by jscape2000 on Apr 5, 2010 8:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

haha

Sox fans never learn. as i’ve said to them countless times: if titles were won in June, the Red Sox would BE the Yankees.

by Travis G on Apr 5, 2010 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

No big deal

but a badly pitched game overall.

Two questions.

Does Gardner have an arm in LF? Just wondering- don’t know. His off the mark throw seemed to have something on it.

Is Park really any good? One outing I know but this is the first I have seen him and he looked mediocre. There a reason no one else wanted him?

by MSP Giant on Apr 5, 2010 8:14 AM EDT reply actions  

Gardner's arm is semi-decent

He’s compared a lot to Jacoby Ellsbury in every facet..and its probably that “good”. It below average, tho I don’t really remember him being that inaccurate.

Park either dominates or gives up a ton or runs. I think we’re gonna hate em.

by FreeBradshaw on Apr 5, 2010 8:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Are you sure

Pedroia’s “pop up” homerun is not a homerun in New Yankee Stadium? Acording to the neutral HitTracker site the ball traveled a true distance of 342 feet, easily enough in YS. The only question is if it would have been fair. It would have been a fair HR in 13 stadiums in the league, and by the fact that NYS is only 318 down the line, I am guessing that NYS is one of the 13.
http://www.hittrackeronline.com/detail.php?id=2010_3&type=hitter

Also VMart is a bad defensive catcher, but by all defensive ratings that I know he is better than Posada, depite the difference in arm.

by Buzzy on Apr 5, 2010 8:44 AM EDT reply actions  

Pedo's HR probably was one

the bad part (for us) is that A-Rod’s probably was a HR too. And Youkilis’ was probably an out too.

That’s why its a big stupid wall.

by FreeBradshaw on Apr 5, 2010 8:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Fair enough

You keep Pedroia and Youks game 1 of 2010 hits and we will keep Dent’s pennant clinching homer that led to a WS.

I like it when people say jock strap and to the batmobile.Want to see my bubble gum? Soup Nazi says NO HO 4 YOU. Go Go Gadget Finger.

by cashman bashman on Apr 5, 2010 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

first off

show me where i said Pedroia’s HR wouldn’t be so in YS. I’m waiting…

Second, while the distance may have been enough to make it out in 13 stadiums (less than half), it’s more about the hook it had. it was curving toward the pole, which is only (listed at) 315 ft. (but is probably closer to 300).

and would you claim that Pedroia is not immensely boosted by playing half his games in Fenway? like i wrote, .140 OPS difference. avg. hitter on the road, elite hitter with that wall. there’s a reason he tries to ‘pop’ the ball toward LF (and gets away with it).

by Travis G on Apr 5, 2010 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I never said you claimed it would not be a HR in NYS

only somehow if it were hit in Yankee stadium I seriously doubt you would be whining about how cheap it was. I don’t see you complaining about Posada’s hooking Pesky Pole shot, or about the fact Cano doubled weakly off the LF wall (barely grazing the scoreboard) to lead off the 4th. Given that that is an out in any other park, and the fact that 3 runs scored in the inning with 2 outs, you could make the case that a 2-1 game was transformed into a 5-1 game. My point is that these things go both ways, it is lame to complain about it.

I also never said that Pedroia’s OPS is not enhanced by Fenway. Whatever is the point? Teams build to their parks-like the fact that the Yankees were/are stacked with LH bats and hit 28 more homers at home than on the road. The Sox hit 16 more at home. While it is true that Fenway increases OPS significantly more than NYS, if we are talking about cheap HRs…

by Buzzy on Apr 5, 2010 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

then why did you bring up the point

about YS?

the Yanks have certainly had their fair share of cheap homers, i don’t deny that, but if you think fans will ever stop talking about the Green Monster, you’re being naive. if Jeter hits a ‘cheap’ homer at YS, go ahead, complain all you want, what do i care?

my point about Pedroia is that he’s largely a product of Fenway (like that HR). put him in almost any other park and no one raves about him.

but get used to it. it’s not ending anytime soon.

by Travis G on Apr 5, 2010 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

What?

first off, Pedroia actually plays the field well, unlike a certain 2b I know. Thus he is far from a “product” of a field that is actually one of the hardest to play. Second of all, even offensively, Pedroia has shown the ability to play away from Fenway. In 2008 he OPSed 830 on the road, so it is not like we are talking about a guy that is automatically an out on the road. Sure he is built for his park. But he is a player that plays elite defense at a premium position and has some decent offensive ability. But I don’t really see why we are discussing Pedroia. I was mostly responding to lameness like:

“That stupid wall turned Pedroia’s and Youikilis’ flies into hits while taking away a homer from Arod. Were there not enough reasons to hate the Red Sox?”

The stupid park dimensions also led to 4 of the 5 runs your team scored in building a 5-1 lead, so it is just dumb. There are so many cool objective fans on this site-Kuri, Ed, Casanova, Jscape, even Free…but you are always so whiny. Maybe that is my fault for stoping by. Whine away to your heart’s content.

by Buzzy on Apr 6, 2010 8:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

we're talking about Pedroia,

in case you forgot, because it was his homer (that was largely a product of Fenway) that gave Boston the win. he had one decent year on the road, but has never once hit better on the road than at home. it’s frustrating to see a guy that, in pretty much any other ballpark, is a decent player, nothing more, play like an All-Star just bc of his home park. his road OPS is identical to the career OPS’s of guys like Jhonny Peralta and Rafael Furcal.

i write what i feel. i’m passionate, especially following games. if you think it’s ‘whiny’ and ‘lame,’ what can i tell you? i’m sure OTM will welcome you back with open arms. for you to seemingly take it so personally strikes me as odd. is this not a rivalry? do Sox fans not criticize the Yankees? like i said, complain all you want about the Yankees (just do it on OTM).

by Travis G on Apr 6, 2010 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't take it personally

what is “lame” is your complete disregard for logic. You keep moving the target in completely random ways. I think it is great that you are passionate for your team, and it is a team that I really respect, but your arguments make no sense. I would be good if you understood that. I (politely) asked if the “pop up” HR would be a HR regardless of where this game was played (it would have), because you implied by your comments that it would not. It was a narrow issue, asked without taking anything personally or being angry. The you responded with anger ( “I’m waiting…”. In my later response I wanted to point out how hypocritical it is to complain about the park when it also massively help your team in that very game. That is not “passion” you are spouting, it is just plain dumb. That is all. It was not to ask what you thought about Pedroia. But even so, you are wrong. First, you have to understand that playing the field is important. Even if Pedroia was a 750 OPS guy overall, he would All-Star level in the AL at 2B with a handful of players based on WAR. Second, most players are not boosted by Fenway the way he is. They are boosted to a lesser degree. The fact that he is a 900+ OPS player at home is VAUABLE, get it? He is taylor made for that park the same way that Maris was for his park. It helps-he is massively aided by warning track power and lack of foul territory more so than someone like Kevin Youkilis, and that helps his team win more games at home than they would otherwise. In this case, however, the shot that he hit was right down the line. It is a HR in NYS, and 1/3 of the other parks in the league, so with regard to what we are actually talking about, his “park effect” is a moot issue.

by Buzzy on Apr 6, 2010 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

my arguments 'make no sense'?

i wrote that Pedroia is massively boosted by his home park… and you agreed.

and please get your facts straight: Maris was hardly helped by playing at YS. his OPS there was .850. his career OPS is .822, and his total OPS while playing with the Yanks was .872.

even in ‘61, his OPS was only .015 higher at home (30 HR at home, 31 away). so please don’t use Maris to try to prove your point, because it doesn’t help you.

as for defense, RSAA has Pedroia only slightly ahead of Cano. and i never said Pedroia wasn’t good on D. why are you bringing up defense at all? we were talking about a homerun and park effects on offense.

by Travis G on Apr 7, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

This hurts

I’m not making a big deal out of it, it’s 1/162th of the season, but it still gets me pissed off. This was our game, we should’ve won this one, and losing it against the Sox get’s me that much more pissed off. We had the pitching advantage yesterday with CC against Beckett, but the Red Sox have a bigger one today with Burnett against Lester.

Anybody know why they didn’t start Lester in the opener?

I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious.

Vince Lombardi

by moose35 on Apr 5, 2010 9:17 AM EDT reply actions  

Beckett is the team vet.

by Scooby Snacks on Apr 5, 2010 7:14 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

tough loss

but not bad overall. It was better than a blowout or a shutout. CC was strong for 5 innings. Regardless of the homers robbed, that’s the point of home field advantage (or rather, playing at home).

It was nice to see Grandy get his first HR in a Yankee uniform, and to see CC have a strong outing (again pre-6th inning) as opposed to the aforementioned trend of being a late starter.

It’s only one game, and not the last of the season or the series matchup with the Sox. While I too was a bit frustrated by the fact that the 2009 champions are starting the season on the road, in the end it will all even out (or rather work itself out) because we need to win on the road as well as at home.

I’m not upset that we lost, just that Posada had to allow a passed ball in the first game, that happened to cost us a run, pretty much erasing one of his RBI.

by phonty on Apr 5, 2010 3:42 PM EDT reply actions  

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