Around the Yankees Galaxy 4/26/2010 - Singing the Javy blues
by 3460kuri on Apr 26, 2010 4:00 AM EDT
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Print-Well, this was pretty underwhelming. Then again, so was this, this, and this. Are you sensing a trend?
In all seriousness, with today being an off-day, Javy Vazquez' lackluster start to the season is going to be the main topic of conversation, and I want to try to nip this in the bud (at least as much as one person can).
So far this season, Vazquez has allowed a .303/.378/.576 batting line to his opponents. Think about that for a minute. It basically means that the average AL hitter turns into Mark Teixeira or A-Rod when they're facing Vazquez. It's ridiculous, and it can't last.
Why do I say this? Think of a random bad pitcher from last year...I'll go with Livan Hernandez. He posted a 5.44 ERA last season over 31 starts, and was generally unspectacular in every way. Despite his unspectacular-ness, opponents "only" posted an .833 OPS against him. Say want you want about Vazquez, but he is clearly a better pitcher than Hernandez.
It's about 99.9% impossible that opponents will keep this up. Vazquez is too good a pitcher to have fallen this far, this quickly, and while a move to the AL rarely helps a pitcher's ERA, it doesn't make this much of an impact.
Vazquez can beat good teams; he posted a 3.00 ERA in 5 starts against the Phillies last season, and he's been league-average for his career while pitching for AL teams.
So, all I ask that we keep the discussion reasonable. The sky is not falling, Vazquez doesn't have any mortal character flaws, and he will improve, simply because very few pitchers are actually this bad. Most importantly, 2004 was six years ago, and he's pitched over 1,050 innings since. He's over it, we should be too.
-In other news, The Yankees have a league-average payroll. Well, not really, but it's an interesting read. When discussing salary caps and revenue sharing, it's easy to forget that a dollar isn't worth the same thing everywhere.
-Somebody posted a few weeks ago about Josh Towers getting his World Series ring and not feeling like he earned it. Don't feel bad, Josh, you actually helped the cause in a small way with your 3.38 ERA. Cody Ransom, on the other hand, should feel really cheap.
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Good post
I fear that it will fall on deaf ears however.
The caption of the picture is also genius.
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I was listening to the game on mlb.com
and Sterling was saying how Eiland needs to keep reminding Javy about his arm slot… seemed like it was an issue all game yesterday. Also after reading more about that intentional walk situation yesterday, it became clear that Girardi actually DID signal a walk and then changed his mind, for this more of the 3-HR blame falls on Girardi, Marte was mentally defeated.
All in all though we have to like where were at, 12-6, only 1.5 games behind the Red Sox the Rays, and the almightly pitching and defense of the league lost a game to a team that doesnt understand the concept of holding leads.
With our next 3 series being O’s, White Sox, O’s, there is no reason we shouldnt win another 6 out of 9 MINIMUM, hopefully with a sweep or two.
I know im MUCH happier with this April compared to the last few years
His arm slot
apparently has been an ongoing issue, got to figure it out. His next start comes in the Bronx…
by Great Gatsby on Apr 26, 2010 7:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Good point about arm slot.
Great point about Marte. At that point, with only switch hitters and righties left in the lineup, Joe should have pulled him for a different pitcher.
"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."
BABIP + LD%
Javy 2010: .342 22.2%
Javy career: .309 20.7%
This, too, shall pass.
"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."
oh......but we had teh beheading already.
Anyone with a crystal ball, also got a Frankenstein machine? I need to re-attach Javy’s head.
I’d say we could sacrifice Nick Johnson to bring back Javy, but he may walk even more people.
by FreeBradshaw on Apr 26, 2010 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Here's the problem with your logic....
His stuff doesn’t look good. You surmise he’s “too good a pitcher to continue like this”. I’d agree if it was just a matter of him getting hit hard, but having good stuff. That’s not what’s happening. I hate to liken this to Wang last year (since that was worse, and likely caused by injury related problems), but it “feels” similar. The guy has lost quite a bit of velocity (4+ mph, it seems) on his fastball. His control is off. There’s no life on ANY of his pitches. His breaking stuff seems to hang an AWFUL lot. Something isn’t right.. And I don’t think we can surmise that, just because Javy has had good historical numbers (though not so much in the AL), that this will get “fixed” or fixed quickly.
So I have to disagree. This could go on for an entire season unless Javy either makes the necessary mechanics corrections (if that’s what it is..and I’m begining to have some serious doubts) or gets treatment for what ails him (if he’s hurt, and not saying anything…or simply doesn’t know). If he doesn’t solve the problem, it very well could be that we see a complete season like what we’ve seen so far.
False
I’ll grant you that he could be hurt. That’s a possible explanation that makes sense. But if that’s not the case, whatever the problem is – his arm slot, his control, his velocity – he’ll fix it. Nobody is this bad for real.
Yes, Vazquez has pitched better in the NL over his career, but he hasn’t exactly been shabby in the AL (ERA+ of 100 means he’s been exactly league-average).
It becomes a question of what you put more stock in – the 2,490 innings he pitched prior to 2010, or the 20 innings he’s pitched this year? I think it’s completely nuts to think that he’s cooked based solely on four bad starts, on 20 bad innings. Good pitchers have bad months sometimes, and it doesn’t mean that they suck.
He’s allowed a .978 OPS this season. That’s mind-boggling. It’s about 35 points HIGHER THAN KEI IGAWA’S. I will repeat, nobody is this bad, period, and somebody who’s been as good as Vazquez has been over his career will rebound.
You sure?
…because in 4 starts, the “mechanical flaw” seems to be exactly the same, with exactly the same results, every time out. It was even apparent in the A’s win. There’s been little to no progress.
Don’t get me wrong, I WANT Javy to be successful. I’m not a fan stuck in 2004. But the fact is, he hasn’t.
I think ASSUMING he’ll correct whatever issue is there is a flawed perspective. He might, he might not. That’s really all we know. Again, I agree…if you look at his historical numbers, you’d think he’d bounce back. The problem is, his historical numbers are based wholly on his “old” mechanics/velocity/stuff. Right now…he doesn’t have that, and there’s little to no signs of progress in reclaiming it. Refresh my memory: other than when he’s been hurt, I can’t remember his having a similar “mechanical issue”…not in the AL OR the NL. Can anyone else recall Javy having this happen, previously?
I’m begining to suspect injury or dead arm syndrome. SOMETHING. Mechanics MIGHT be the problem…but wouldn’t you expect to see some progress, then, start to start? SOMETHING? Because I also agree it’s unusual for a successful pitcher to drop this far, this fast. Not impossible, not unheard of, but unusual.
But just because it’s unusual doesn’t mean it’s not the case.
As for the “He can’t possibly be this bad for an extended period” argument….again, I point to Wang. Yes, it was likely injury related. But we’ve seen 19 games winners become 10 to 12 game winners in the course of a season or two. All we know is he HAS been this bad. We’re just looking for reasons why, and if he can correct them.
I HOPE he can. But I have serious concerns. I think everyone, if they’re being honest with themselves, does too.
Velocity is a big key
I agree with CalinCT. Fangraphs says Vazquez’s velocity has dropped about 2.3 MPH on the fastball, which jibes with what I’m seeing on the gun. His off speed stuff looks fine, but the hitters are having a much easier time picking up on the fastball. It’s probably mechanical but I wouldn’t rule out an injury either. The problem probably is correctable, but that doesn’t mean that it’s guaranteed that will be fixed in time for his next start, a month from now or even three months from now.
by MikeGianella on Apr 26, 2010 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Poor mechanics would cause all of those things.
Drop in velocity, loss of control and flat breaking pitches.
Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.
by CasanovaWong on Apr 26, 2010 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree, it could be mechanics. And if it had been one or two starts, I’d be 100% on board with that explanation.
But 4 starts with no progress? Either Javy is failing to do his job and make corrections, Dave is failing to do his and figure out what’s wrong, or there’s something else going on. Really, those are the only 3 possibilities, here. Right?
If Javy was doing what he was supposed to (or Dave was), we’d see progress. Maybe not a complete reversal, but progress…and we’d see changes in his delivery. I mean, I know they can be subtle, at times, but this isn’t a subtle difference in his “normal” delivery. It’s a pretty drastic one, with that elbow OBVIOUSLY dragging through the zone. You’d notice the change, IMHO, pretty quickly.
Or, alternately, Javy is trying to do what Dave is telling him to..but when it comes to real world application, Javy’s body just won’t do what his brain is telling it to do.
Which leads you to think that maybe, just maybe, it’s something physical.
i wouldn't necessarily call it 4 starts and no progress
There was improvement against the A’s. It seemed like his fastball had a little bit more life. As kuri points out, his peripherals also indicate more improvement is coming. I would characterize yesterday’s game less as a regression and more as a bad reaction to bad circumstances. I know that seems rather apologist, but consider this:
The Angels have a potent lineup that is just now waking up for the season. They were bound to score some runs. If he does what we want him to do, which I assume is to throw strikes, come at hitters, and not nibble, good hitters like Bobby Abreu are going to hit some bombs off him. Unfortunately, as we know Javy lacks some mental toughness right now, he got rattled, started to nibble, was deserted by his defense, and got touched up.
My point is basically that yesterday, just as in his previous start before his A’s win, the damage was worse than it could have been. He needs to improve, but it’d help a lot if he could catch some breaks.
His average fastball speed (via Pitch FX) was almost exactly the same in all 3 starts.. His location wasn’t much better (62% vs 66% strikes)..and the improvement seemed to be on swinging strikes (meaning the A’s were missing more than other teams have).
The RESULT was different. But if you look at every objective difference, AND you look at the subjective one (watching his mechanics), I don’t see any difference from the A’s start vs his other 3….other than the result.
agreed, for the most part
Yeah, his velocity is down and his control needs work (although I have no idea what his ball-to-strike ratio was last year). The improvement on swinging strikes is exactly what I was referring to when I said his fastball seemed to have more life. Granted, that was against the A’s, but even on Sunday, before Thames tried his best to play left field (sigh), he had struck out the side the inning before.
All that aside though, my point in referring to his peripherals is that his results ought to have been better for the way he’s been pitching. Jscape cites his BABIP, which is one of the better metrics for determining how “lucky” a pitcher has been:
BABIP + LD%
Javy 2010: .342 22.2%
Javy career: .309 20.7%
When I say “Javy is bound to show some improvement,” I’m at least partially considering the likelihood that even if his stuff remains exactly as ineffective as its been, his results are statistically bound to improve, as he’s been getting some terrible breaks. He sure hasn’t been good, but he hasn’t necessarily been a 9.00 ERA pitcher either.
He will either figure it out or he won't
I have faith he will. His velocity is down quite a bit and you are right, his breaking pitches are hanging. I just hope he is mentally tough enough to handle the weight on the NY logo on his cap. Its easy pitching in Atlana because… well it is Atlanta post 90’s and the NL East is pretty damn unspectacular except for the Phillies.
by HappyLuckyGoldenDragonNumber1! on Apr 26, 2010 9:28 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
All this talk about "arm slot" is curious
A guy doesn’t just forget how to throw after a dozen seasons in the bigs. (Yes, Konblauch, Blass and Sax are exceptions). They may have some mechanical issues from time to time, but those are generally fixable for a veteran. IF the player is healthy.
I agree with CalinCT above – his fastball averaged 88+ yesterday. That’s quite a bit less than the 92+ that he was advertised at. Could it be that he is “masking” an injury, just as he now claims he was doing in the dreaded second half of 2004? Girardi was quoted in today’s paper as saying he didn’t think so, but managers have been fooled before. If not an injury, then maybe we are seeing the inevitable age-related decline in Vazquez.
Overall, though, I think Javy is the victim of unrealistic expectations. His lifetime ERA in the AL is only 4.60. Not horrible. Not good. Maybe a bit below average. Not enough to command an $11 million per year salary, but perhaps good enough to get by as a 5th starter.
I agree, pretty much all the way around.
I don’t expect to see the issue fixed overnight. But I would expect to see some progress. I haven’t noticed any. I’m begining to expect, more and more, it’s a physical issue. If I were Joe G, I’d bench him this next start, and send him for a battery of tests to make sure everything was OK. I expect, should his next start be as bad as his first 4, that’s what we’ll see.
And I also agree that expectations were too high from many of the fans. This guy was not going to be a 15 – 20 game winner with a sub 3.00 ERA in the AL (especially not housed in the AL East). So if people were expecting THAT, they’re going to be even more disappointed with what he’s shown so far.
He should be a 10 to 15 game winner with a 4.00-ish ERA, who can keep the Yanks in games, and eat innings. We haven’t gotten THAT guy yet, though, either. I think Javy can BE that guy, but I think something’s wrong. And I think that something is more serious than just “mechanics”…something physical. Either that, or Father time showed up this off season and beat Javy with the “old” stick.
The only other possible explanation (other than injury) would be Javy's
inability to deal with the pressure of pitching for the Yanks. But if that were the case, one woud think that a three-run lead, such as the Yanks had yesterday, would have alleviated some of the pressure and allowed Javy to pitch “normally” (i.e., consistently with his historical performance). However, he wasn’t able to, so I think there must be an injury issue. Time and again we see pro athletes struggling for no apparent reason, only to discover later that they were trying to work through an injury.
I agree that it would be nice to sit him down and test him. The problem, of course, is that even though today is an off day, they will need a 5th starter on Saturday. But that’s why Aceves and Mitre are on the team, right?
by HilltopPark on Apr 26, 2010 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions
I contemplated the “pressure” question, too. But I don’t want to question anyone’s mental toughness without motive. Irrespective of Ozzie’s comments, I’m willing to give Javy the benefit of the doubt. But if it IS a mental issue (that cropped up from the mechanical one, as the guy DID start his NYY season on the road, thus no boos)….I have a hard time thinking that he will be able to work through it in the limelight of NYC. The fans are more likely to give him grief, and exacerbate the problem, should it come to light than they are to give him a break. I don’t want to trade the guy, or release him (that would be idiotic). But they GOT to find a way to fix him. Maybe have him talk to A-rods shrink?
Mitre would get the start, IMHO. He’s the easiest to trot out there on “short” notice.
I think you leave Ace in the pen (which, on a tangent….WHY doesn’t he pitch longer, yesterday, with an off day today? I just don’t get that).
The unfortunate thing, for Yankees fans, is that Joe Girardi
seems to be dismissing both theories: injury and pressure. If you read the headline article on the Yankees site today, there are quotes from Girardi on both subjects. Of course, maybe that’s just for public consumption, and behind the scenes Girardi has a better idea of what’s going on with Javy. For our sake, I hope so, because there sure isn’t any publicly disclosed plan to deal with Javy’s issues.
by HilltopPark on Apr 26, 2010 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
PR speak...
I suspect that’s the case. He’s not going to give the press everything he knows (at least, not until it’s confirmed and on it’s way to being fixed) and he sort of has to have his players back.
They’ve got to figure this out, and quick. Either they have to get Javy to show some progress, they need to find a physical issue, or they need to get him some stress management excercises and pronto. Because whatever they’ve done up to now is having exactly zero effect.
Maybe he just has his head up his ass
I don’t know too much about his career except he seems to pitch well every where else except New York. Has he ever struggled like this anywhere else?
THIS bad?
Not that I recall. He had some lackluster seasons in the past, though, to be sure. He’s had seasons in Montreal (late 90’s) AND Chicago (06 and 08) that were “meh”, at best.
Realistic expectations for Javy are probably a 10 to 15 win season with a 4-ish ERA. That’s what he’s been historically. And I’d take “that guy” plugged into the 4 slot tomorrow! We just need him to be “that guy” again.
You just figured it all out!!!
THAT’S the way to correct the mechanical problem. Pitch WITH his head inserted in his anus!
Quick, someone call the Yanks and tell them we figured it out!
[Disclaimer: Please not the humor of this post. I do not, in any way, advocate attempting to pitch with one’s head inserted in their rectum. I can not be held liable for any injury, loss of income, or loss of bowel control when attempting to actually PITCH with one’s head up one’s nether regions.]
Careful. How far up the ass do think a professional athlete could get his own head?
Javy might be the greatest contortionist of all time. And be in serious need of a laxative.
"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."
do you want me to post the picture again?
by FreeBradshaw on Apr 26, 2010 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions
you can google head up ass
then look at the images
by FreeBradshaw on Apr 26, 2010 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Not hate, humor
Not even slightly sipping the hatorade, actually.
I just think it would be funny, considering the conversation (which is HUMOR, in case you lack familiarity with the concept).
I don’t HATE Javy. Actually, quite the opposite. I want Javy to be successful, and hope the Yanks turn him out of this tailspin. If anything, I’m worried about the guy….because I’m a Yanks fan, and he has (or should have) value to this team.
I don’t dislike him because he has yet to succeed. I don’t dislike him for 2004 (that was 6 years and a WS trophy ago). I don’t dislike him, at all.
I’m not happy with the way he’s performed, so far, though…and I’m interested in discussing just why that performance has occurred and the likelihood it might continue.
When CC or A.J. have abad game it’s just a bad game, but when Javy pitches and has a bad game (yes I know he hasn’t pitched wee al season), all of a sudden people are saying he sucks and why did we get him. Javy was usccesful before and he will still be succesful this season. Remember last season CC did not get off to a good start and still had a good season. Forget about 2004 and live in 2010.
By the way Melky is hitting under .100. I like Granderson better.
To set the record straight:
1. It’s been 4 bad games for Javy, not “a” bad game.
2. Melky is now hitting .153 and, having hit .200 over the last 14 days and .235 over the last 7 days, is actually showing improvement, unlike the starting pitcher for whom he was traded.
yes, you're right
It has been FOUR starts. In APRIL. If you’re going to give Melky his slow start, how can you not extend the same to Vazquez? To compare, until the past few games, Tex had looked completely lost at the plate. His swing was a mess, and despite his claims to the contrary, there was no visible improvement for a good two weeks to start the season. And he got the chance to play every day!
Now, Tex is as professional a hitter as there is. Are you suggesting that for those two weeks, he and Kevin Long were somehow unwilling to spot and work on the mechanical problems with his swing? Or that he was masking some sort of mysterious injury that preventing him from correcting the problem (we obviously know that this was not the case)? Of course not. It takes TIME to work through mechanical issues like this.
For one, Melky is showing improvement
For two, Javy has already proven that he can’t pitch much better than mediocre.
If you didn’t see progress in Tex’s ABs, you weren’t watching. He started to correct his collapsing back leg about a week into the season. He started to work on his overswing for the next week. And then he started to hit the ball, HARD, right at people.
That’s progress.
if i remember correctly
that problem with his back leg persisted for a while. I’m no hitting instructor, but it looked to me like his upper and lower halves were completely out of sync (is that what you’re referring to as overswing?). Remember that Tex had the chance to work on his hitting during game situations every day, while Javy’s had just 4 outings. And if his mechanical problems really are related to rushing on the mound, there’s not as much that bullpen sessions can do to help. I’m basically saying that essentially calling Javy’s problems unresolvable this early into the season would be like declaring Tex unable to hit effectively again after his first week of ugly, ugly at-bats.
Not unsolvable
Again, if you go back to the game footage, you can see that while the back leg collapsing was ongoing, it got progressively BETTER. It started to improve right after the first week of the season. And yes, that’s what I mean by overswing. His upper body was overswinging his lower body…and he’s been working on that (and you can see improvement) over the past couple weeks.
Yes, Tex can work on his hitting in game situations every day. Javy gets a bullpen session between starts, too. With Tex, you see at bats where he falls into bad habits again, and at bats where he looks pretty “right”. That’s progress. With Javy, you dont’ see a solid string of pitches with his velocity back, and then a string without. You don’t see his ability to locate appear and then disappear. You don’t see radical changes in his mechanics where he’s “right” and then “not right”. EVERY pitch looks off. Thus, no progress.
I’ve never said Javy’s problems are unresolvable. What I’ve said is this:
a) You can’t just assume they WILL be resolved.
b) His problems might not be JUST mechanical.
I have a hard time buying that, given we’ve seen NO progress or changes in his delivery, that something else is going on. Because I DON’T think Javy would ignore Eiland’s advice. I DON’T think Eiland is unable to suggest/implement corrections. And I think if Eiland suggested it, and Javy could do it, we’d see some progress….some changes in his delivery.
We haven’t. So, logically…what are the remaining possibilities?
another typo
“something else is going on” should read “something else ISN’T going on”.
Man, is that a game changer of a “fat finger” or what?
drama queen Francessa pouring gasoline on the fire on WFAN. yeah, we get it. Vasquez is off to a rough start. BFD. It’s way too early to be booing the guy off the hill.
Agreed.
Complain about his performance on here, get pissed from your arm chair and scream at him through the tv. Whatever floats your boat. Booing Yankees as a Yankee fan is classless, in my opinion. Booing him isn’t going to make him suddenly pitch better; if anything it might make him pitch worse.
by WhatwouldJeterdo on Apr 26, 2010 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow - have you been to the Stadium? Yanks fans boo fairly
frequently. Are you saying that all those who actually pay for tickets are being “classless” if they boo? Then an awful lot of Yankee fans must be “classless”. By the way, who knows what effect booing may have on a player? For some, it may be the equivalent of a swift kick in the butt, something you don’t see much among today’s very high paid players.
A lot of Yankee fans are classless. A lot of sports fans are classless.
There, I said it.
"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."
Yes, I have been to the Stadium, though I don't know what that has to do with anything.
I think it’s crappy to boo your team. The end.
by WhatwouldJeterdo on Apr 26, 2010 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Until the first time he pumps his fist
then he’s back in teh pen
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Got to keep the faith...
Though I will say…id rather NOT go through half his starts until we realize the guy struggles may be more then what we think….
I’m giving him about 2-3 more starts…if he still struggles after that….its pretty obvious he’s not built to be in NY….
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by NYYWinsRings27 on Apr 26, 2010 2:50 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I agree that Vazquez needs to make some adjustments
But the sky is not falling. I don’t recall all this hate for Sabathia with his slow start last April after signing a ginormous contract (no doubt to match his food appetite). Javy is equally proven as a major league pitcher, though I’ll concede he’s not a Cy Young or WS winner yet either.
Let me remind the PA faithul of one thing: while it had been said that it was a good problem to have to have to choose between Hughes and Chamberlain, it’s equally good to have our losses (except for one) come from our #4 starter. Let’s be grateful we’re not in the Cub’s shoes where they had to stick their #1 or #2 starter and one of their largest contracts in the bullpen just to keep from losing games after the starter is pulled. That’d literally be like the Yankees sticking CC or AJ in the pen because the pen couldn’t hold a lead or save a game.
by phonty on Apr 26, 2010 3:24 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Through 4 starts last year, CC was 1-1, the Yanks were 2-2 in those games
and his ERA was 4.81. That’s a far cry from Javy, with his 9.00 ERA. Also, CC had a much, much better track record than Javy, and, as a result, was probably cut a bit more slack than Javy is.
Sabathia was not this bad last year.
1-1 (and the Yanks were 2-2) through 4 starts with a 4.5 ERA isn’t horrible. It’s about league average. And the difference here? CC had good stuff that occasionally failed him. He looked like CC, but CC making mistakes.
Javy doesn’t look anything like the guy who threw last year…but he doesn’t even look like the guy who averages 12/13 wins with a 4.2 ERA (his historical numbers), either.
Maybe its not a good-bad thing
Maybe its a “sensitive kid” thing — as in “Not made for NY.” That’s why you can’t suppose he’s going to get better. It isn’t his talent — its his composition. A coupla more outings and the expected evolution from chorus to symphony by the NY boo-birds and this guy is D-O-N-E as a Yankee before the All-Star break (even if he’s still on the roster.)
Might as well have kept Kei igawa.
What worries me
is you may be right and his composition. However, to me, that all the more reason not to boo the guy, at least for a while. If Javy’s going to be rattled by the booing, and that contributes to poor pitching, then we are hurting the team by booing him. Why would any real fan want to do that?
and I would hope the answer to that question isn't
“because we want to appear so much smarter/cooler than the chumps on HalosHeaven”
Your right about the booing...
But I’m made to believe…and excuse me if I sound like a heartless soul here…but if we are paying the guy millions of dollars….To pitch every 5th day….He can’t be so soft as to let a couple of boo’s bother him…
At some point your going to have to man up…..Your composition has as much to do in playuing for the Yankees as your talent…Everybody knows how the fans are….
Now the faans have to watch what they say or how they react to a bad outing because were scared to hurt his feelings….If that’s the case I don’t want you on the team anyway…
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