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Ian Kennedy


Hi guys I am a member over at the Arizona Snakepit and I was wondering what your guys thought on Ian Kennedy were
I amm hoping he will be a effective number 4 because god knows the Dbacks need it. What can we expect from him? What do you think his ceiling is? I would really appreciate your guys opinions on this thanks in advance.  I hope the Yankees have a good season. Maybe we can see a repeat of 01?

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Thanks for the post and you’re welcome here anytime!

Kennedy is a back of the rotation starter who some have compared to Mike Mussina in the past. He really fell off the Mussina path recently but continued to acheive at the minor-league level. As for the majors, I would personally prefer him as a 5th starter, but he is an adequate 4th starter. I was at his MLB debut vs. Tampa and he pitched pretty solid that day. He consistently throws his fastball around 91- 92 MPH, he is known for his pitching finesse to retire hitters.

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by Brandon C. on Mar 25, 2010 7:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Kennedy was over hyped

because he first came up with the Yankees and had some success because no one had seen him before.

And then the book came out on him.

He nibbles way too much, rarely spots his fastball, and his breaking balls aren’t good enough for strikes. Minor league hitters will expand the zone and lack plate discipline, so he tends to post pretty good numbers at AAA, but as it is now, doesn’t have the stuff or the balls to be a good starter at the ML level.

Not to dump on your league, but maybe things will change in the NL West.

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by Lord Duggan on Mar 25, 2010 7:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Darth Duggan is correct

Kennedy does not throw very hard and his breaking balls are not good enough.Rite know he is no better then Jamie Moyer at age 50 something.He does not have what Mussina had at his worst.I believe his high end is somewhere around Ted Lily if he stays healthy and figures it out.Lily is a decent #3 some years so there is some hope but do not hold your breathe.I never have been high on junk ball pitchers with low 90s fastballs,theres just not enough seperation in pitch speed.He can win games but will be inconsistent.Never heard nothing bad about him as a person and that does matter.I love Webb and would like to follow his progress so you might see me on your site later on.I will look forward to talking baseball and not smack with you.

Oh boy I can't wait,there is going to be a Ho Park in the bullpen.I wonder if we can use the bullpen phone to order condoms with our pizza that will sit next to the keg?I already bought my spurs and chaps.Nevermind my wife found out about the bullpen,who's the Judas?

by cashman bashman on Mar 25, 2010 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

how the hell does this thing do this 70% of the time

NOW,maybe it is the userer and nott the program?

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by cashman bashman on Mar 27, 2010 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just Busting Your Base-balls

Kennedy never really had a chance to develop fully before the injury. I think playing in the NL will greatly help him and he will be a more than adaquate starter for you guys. He will never be great and was overhyped, but if he learns to control that curve and spots up, you will have a very good pitcher. He just got set back a lot. Hopefully he can develop with your team for a year and then we can sign him back in time for a 2011 ten year World Series anniversary rematch where he and CC can single handedly pitch the entire four game sweep for our third straight.

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by SteveBalboniHOF on Mar 25, 2010 8:39 PM EDT reply actions  

I read that....

Some Arizona people were trying to compare him to Maddux!
I kind of chuckled. Their thought was his approach and analyzing of batters was similar and he is not overpowering, which Maddux was the same.

Sounds like they are trying to hype him in Az also.

by seeknayog on Mar 25, 2010 10:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Well him and Maddux do have a lot in common

They both throw baseballs off of a small hill.

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by Lord Duggan on Mar 25, 2010 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maddux ...

It’s really not that huge of a stretch. Mike Maddux was a serviceable pitcher … #5 occasional #4 who often was #2…

Given the right circumstances, I think IPK can win at the MLB level. Right now I’d say he’s a AAAA pitcher.

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by Ronster22 on Mar 26, 2010 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

I see what you did there

Clever.

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by jscape2000 on Mar 26, 2010 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's

likely to be a useful enough backend start in the NL.

He has a low 90s FB for the most part, control in the minors was good but not so much in the majors. he has a pretty wide varity of breakingballs but nothing that seems to be devastating.

Of course, it doesn’t help that he was pitching in the ALE mostly against Boston or Tampa. ends up nibbling the corner way too much.

He’s still a fine prospect. as long as your not hanging your season on him.

by RollingWave on Mar 25, 2010 10:26 PM EDT reply actions  

+1

I also don’t think it helped him that in every start, IPK was fighting for his spot on the big league roster. He certainly tried to be too fine.

I think he’ll be an asset to nearly any team, especially in the NL.

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by jscape2000 on Mar 26, 2010 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

If he's to be successful,

deception will be his game. As cashman bashman said, he’s actually similar to Jamie Moyer, which isn’t that awful. Some guys just don’t throw 94-95 mph, and he’s one of them. If he can use deception to fool hitters and be a touch more aggressive, he can be a successful back of the rotation starter.

by Leviticus6688 on Mar 25, 2010 10:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Believe it or not it is possible for pitchers to be better than their first 60 innings in the majors would suggest.

He has four MLB average pitches and good command of all of them. Some people are idiots and like to jump to conclusions after watching a guy pitch a miniscule amount of innings. There’s a reason he has many, many,school records at USC ( Randy Johnson and Mark Prior’s alma mater), there’s a reason he was a first round draft pick, and there’s a reason he absolutely killed the minors. Between the parks and the punch and judy lineups in the NL West he should be a solid #4 or even a low end #3 pitcher for yall.

And yes, he actually is Maddux-esque in that he doesn’t overpower you but has a variety of pitches he can control well and has good baseball smarts. But of course, the junior GM’s here will see a kid who pitched nervously in his call ups and immediately throw him on the scrap heap.

Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.

by CasanovaWong on Mar 25, 2010 11:19 PM EDT reply actions  

While I agree with everything you said there NovaWong

I have to throw out that ugly chinese dude Igawa as a sucessfull minor league pitcher with minimal innings in the show.Circumstances will change and everybody is differant.Do not panic IPK has way more upside then Kei ever had.But hey the smart Chinese confushus say man with more money have better career and more hookers.

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by cashman bashman on Mar 27, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ross Ohlendorf 2009 stats

172 ip
3.92 era
4.72 fip
1.23 whip

Soooo, they’d probably be pretty happy with that, especially with less than a year of service time.

Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.

by CasanovaWong on Mar 25, 2010 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

He was good for about a month with the Yanks

then when his straight 89mph gas with no movement got figured out, he got tagged especially since he had trouble finding the strike zone.

Since the Yankees have no patience whatsoever..that automatically meant he’s gone and would never see the 1st inning again.

In the NL West, he’s probably a solid #4 or 5 dude.

DWTDD

by FreeBradshaw on Mar 26, 2010 7:05 AM EDT reply actions  

Yeah

For Kennedy’s sake, better off in the NL. Don’t think he would have been susccessful in the
AL East, now or in the future.

by Great Gatsby on Mar 27, 2010 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

A change of scenery and not pitching in the AL east will be great for him.

I wish him the best hopefully he can prove he can pitch at the ML level. However, 01 would not be nice. If the Dbacks make it, the old crew will not take it lightly like they did in 03. Oh, how about Romine and Zach Macallister for Upton?

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by jramey on Mar 26, 2010 9:23 AM EDT reply actions  

naw

No thanks i personally would like to keep upton hes my favorite player. We could use Mcallister but not Romine we already have Montero and snyder.

by BattleMoses on Mar 26, 2010 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha,

come on now.

How about Hughes, McCallister, and Montero for Upton.

You’re talking about one of the most valuable assets in MLB not named Evan Longoria.

by Leviticus6688 on Mar 29, 2010 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's decent

He can even sometimes be very good, but prepare yourself to be yelling “GET HIM THE HELL OUTTA HERE!” in the 4th inning of 25% percent of his starts

by RicketyCricket on Mar 26, 2010 11:44 AM EDT reply actions  

Playing for the Yankees

is a tough place to become a good pitcher, especially a finesse one like Ian Kennedy. I think we got the best part of that 3-way trade, but you guys got a #3 and potentially #1 starter in Edwin Jackson and a back-end rotation kind of guy with high upside in Ian Kennedy. The dude hasn’t pitched 100 innings in the Majors yet, so I think this year is where he shows what kind of pitcher he is.

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by moose35 on Mar 26, 2010 12:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Ian Kennedy

From what I saw IPK should benefit from a less powerful hitting division. The AL Beast with DHs like Matsui and Ortiz was really tough. He is more effective keeping the ball down, so a slower infield as opposed to turf would help. Will he be durable enough? I don’t know.

by logiet on Mar 26, 2010 4:22 PM EDT reply actions  

IPK?

What is that all about?

by Great Gatsby on Mar 27, 2010 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ian Paul Kennedy

Similar to how JFK and RFK went by initials, apparently everyone with that name must do it.

by Leviticus6688 on Mar 29, 2010 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Needs a put-away pitch

How many times did we see him get a guy 1-2 and back himself into a fastball count? The guy has a plus change but when hitters start laying off of that he’ll get himself into trouble. I for one wish him nothing but the best and hope he figures it out this time around.

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by Sgurd0187 on Mar 26, 2010 4:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Kennedy did make Az club as 5th starter

Here is the article

Also, here is the article where they compared him to Maddux.

by seeknayog on Mar 28, 2010 12:53 AM EDT reply actions  

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