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Pitches per out

This is a good way to measure the efficiency of pitchers. Let's take a look at what current Yankees did last year.

CC Sabathia recorded 690 outs (230 ip * 3) and threw 3586 pitches. That equates to 5.2 pitches per out.

Mo Rivera, the closer, recorded 199 outs and needed 1028 pitches, for 5.17 per out.

Here's the full list:

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Aceves - 4.96

Vazquez (in the lesser league) - 5.05

Rivera - 5.17

Sabathia - 5.20

AL avg. - 5.55

Burnett - 5.56

Pettitte - 5.59

Hughes - 5.64

Mitre - 5.65

Joba - 5.73

Gaudin - 5.80

Robertson - 6.62

The most interesting pitchers are at the top and bottom. 'Ace' doesn't seem like the most efficient pitcher on the Yankees, but he was last year, needing less than five pitches per out. Meanwhile, D-Rob, a very effective reliever, required almost seven pitches per out. (If he's going to evolve into a great reliever rather than just a good one, he'll need to cut down that number.) These are not the pitchers I would think of as the most and least efficient.

It's great that Vazquez had such a crazy low number (especially for a starter), but how will that carry over into the AL East in a homer-friendly stadium?

Hughes' pitches/out was a bit higher than I thought it would be. He seemed to mow down hitters with ease last year, yet he was still less efficient than starters like Burnett and Pettitte.

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Travis,

I like the thought.

The flaw in this process is that it penalizes strikeout pitchers in favor of quick-contact groundball pitchers. The strikes thrown by unhittable strikeout pitchers (like Hughes) are more valuable than the balls thrown by finesse pitchers like Pettitte or wild pitchers like Robertson.

A better (but still not flawless) method would be Frankie Pilliere’s Percentage of Pitches Toward Outs or PTO%.

PTO%=(((IP*3)-SO)+(SO*3))/Pitches
So IP*3 gives you the number of outs the pitcher recorded, isolates the ones that didn’t result in K, then gives the pitcher positive credit for strikes, totaled and divided by IP.

My complaint is that since IP is dependent on fielders making plays, pitches in front of strong defenses will always score better than those in front of poor fielders. But when looking at pitchers on a single team in a single season, like you do here, I think it’s worthwhile.

"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."

by jscape2000 on Mar 21, 2010 4:00 PM EDT reply actions  

+1

Was going to post something similar.

Strikeout guys get penalized by this system, and strikeouts out of the bullpen are probably the most important thing.

If you’re only going one inning, I don’t mind wasting a few pitches to get the strikeout.

This sticker is dangerous and inconvenient, but I do love Fig Newtons.

by Lord Duggan on Mar 21, 2010 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

+2

I was thinking the same thing as I read it. Strikeout pitchers in general throw more pitches.

by Wraithpk on Mar 21, 2010 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

How can you say strikeouts are the most important thing out of the bullpen?

After having watched Rivera, never a big strikeout guy compared to other elite closers of his era, dominate for 15 years ?

by PCP on Mar 22, 2010 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Rivera

is almost a career 1 K/IP guy, that’s a pretty high rate. He has actually been more than a K/IP in the last three years, supposedly the “twilight” of his career.

by david d on Mar 22, 2010 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

true

but i never said that a low P/O was better than a lot of P/O, only more efficient.

by Travis G on Mar 21, 2010 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fair point.

"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."

by jscape2000 on Mar 21, 2010 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

what's amazing

is that Vazquez was 2nd in the NL in Ks last year and still had an incredibly efficient year.

by Travis G on Mar 21, 2010 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

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