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It's only spring training people!

No, there's no way you can say the Granderson trade was bad because Granderson has a sub-par BA and Jackson is hitting the ball well. No, there's no way Nick Johnson wins the AL MVP with a .900 slugging percentage and Cano hits .393 throughout the whole season. That's why it's called spring training.

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The whole thing with starting pitcher roles and 3rd outfielder roles being decided by every at-bat, every game in spring training is just silly. Saying Joba doesn't have what it takes after 2 bad starts, which were incidentally his first 2 starts since September, is wrong. Yes Aceves is pitching well. So is Mitre. Can we honestly expect them to keep this up for the whole season? Are we going to judge what pitcher should be sent out every 5th day for the Yankees just based on the fact that some relief pitchers from last season are striking out AAA players? Playing a 162-game season is a lot different from having 2 or 3 starts in sunny Tampa Bay with half-empty stadiums. Media pressure, fan-pressure and the thirst for results-those are all things that players like Joba or Hughes have gone through and excelled in. Those are also things that Mitre and Gaudin have never quite felt. Yes they are Major Leaguers, but playing in Florida or Seattle is different than starting here.

So what happens if Girardi chooses Gaudin to be our 5th starter? He might pitch well for 2 or 3 more games, unavoidably falter, and go back to the bullpen. Meanwhile Joba or Hughes have to have 2 "transition starts" to get them back into starter form. This costs us about 3 games (Gaudin's bad starts and Hughes'/Joba's transition starts), all this because Gaudin pitches well in spring training. I'm not taking anything away from pitchers like Gaudin or Mitre, but they have no track record of being good starters. Joba and Hughes already have bigger resumes, are younger, and are the future of the Yankees if Cashman doesn't trade them away. So why make every start a do or die start?

So take it easy doomsdayers. Spring training, to me, means warming up for the season. If that means getting shelled so you can fine-tune your pitches, then go ahead and get shelled Joba. He shouldn't be relying on pitches that he's comfortable with just so he can look impressive and win a job.

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Mitre looks good but It is only Spring Training.

Trade Mitre now while he has value. He is not worth a roster spot. He has never proven his worth at the Major League level during the regular season.

by YANKEES FOREVER on Mar 20, 2010 10:39 AM EDT reply actions  

why are we trading Mitre?

His value is nothing more then it was last year. You don’t gain value over ST.

He could be a valuable long reliever or spot starter. The hell are we getting rid of bullpen depth for?

Master of the squeegee

by FreeBradshaw on Mar 20, 2010 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

+1

Yankees all day.

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." ~Rogers Hornsby

"If you're not doing it right, you're doing it wrong. And there's no in between." ~Mark "Lunch" McKenzie

by Onishadow14 on Mar 20, 2010 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Its Spring training?

You mean…most of the ST players who are doing great…DON’T in the season..and many of the established players who stink in ST…do GOOD in the reg. Season?

PREPOSTEROUS!

 DOOM! WE"RE NOT MAKING THE PLAYOFFS!!! AHHHHHHH

Master of the squeegee

by FreeBradshaw on Mar 20, 2010 2:02 PM EDT reply actions  

At least we have the AL MVP though

Nick Johnson. Cano might win the batting title too, you never know. But then again, Melky Cabrera is tearing the cover off the ball…well anyways, it’ll be a close race.

Not to mention Alfredo Acever and his 0.94 ERA. He’s got Cy Young written all over him.

I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious.

Vince Lombardi

by moose35 on Mar 20, 2010 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Spring Training:

the time of year when players like Dustin Pedroia and David Eckstein condition themselves in order to “out-grit and out-gut” the rest of the league all season.

by Leviticus6688 on Mar 20, 2010 4:00 PM EDT reply actions  

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