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"A Run Saved Is a Run Earned" Or Is It?

In baseball, the ultimate goal is to score more runs than your opponent. It might be said in some circles (like Seattle) that the goal is to force your opponent to score less often than you, though. Theoretically, they should be looked at as equals: offense and defense. As with almost everything baseball related though, it's not that simple. I was recently looking at Bill James' Pythagorean record formula. For those of you not familiar with this, it is a simple formula used to determine how many wins and losses a team "should" have had based on the amount of runs scored and runs allowed. The reason "should" is in parentheses, is because often teams can either get lucky or unlucky, sometimes winning a great deal of close games or losing a great deal of them. The luck can at least partially be explained by quality bullpen though. I've conveniently linked a more in depth explanation of the formula from the most unbiased, truthful source I could possibly find here.

When I was looking at it, I decided to plug in some random numbers to see what would happen when I altered them. For example, if a team scored 1,000 runs and gives up 1,000, they would expect to have a .500 record, going 81-81. But if that same team improved their offense by 200 runs and it was 1,200-1,000, they would have a .59 winning percentage, going about 96-66. Interestingly though, if a team were to reduce runs allowed by the same amount, making it 1,000 scored vs. 800 allowed, they would improve more. They would have about a .61 percentage and go 99-63. Of course, the idea of a team scoring 1,000 runs while giving up the same amount is rather far fetched. The team would probably have to invest all their money into a lineup full of mashers who played no defense and started a rotation of Kei Igawas and still not even get there. 

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What does all this mean for the Yankees in 2010? Most prediction sites have them scoring a little over 900 runs and a giving up a little over 750. In other words, very similar to last year in which it was 915 scored vs. 753 allowed. Their theoretical record would be 96-66, 7 wins off last year's pace. How would their team (on paper) react to changes runs scored and runs allowed? I'm glad you asked. Rather than taking a drastic change such as 200 runs, I'll take a more subtle, practical approach.

Earlier this winter (as every one of you is well-aware), much was made over the Yankees not bringing back Johnny Damon in favor of the cheaper, younger, better defensive Brett Gardner. Since they will in all likelihood mostly be playing the same position this year, I decided to look at the differences in the type of player they are. Gardner (in a very small sample size) has put up very solid defensive numbers both in CF and LF. This coming year, he is projected by most to be either right at replacement level of a few runs above on offense while about 10 runs above in the field. Damon meanwhile, is projected to be about 5-10 runs below in the field while between 10-15 runs above replacement at the plate.

How do would these values affect the Yankees' chances of winning? Taking the conservative approach and assuming they are currently on track for 900 runs for and 750 against, we would come up with these numbers: 97-65 with Gardner 96-66 with Damon. That isn't to say that Gardner is a full run above replacement better than Damon, but with the way the Yankees are currently constructed, the marginal value of runs saved is greater than the value of runs scored. Combine this with the fact that Gardner will make the league minimum in 2010 while Damon will be making $8 million and it becoming increasingly evident that the Yankees will be just fine without Damon.

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I think that for a high powered team like the Yankees

it makes sense to trot out at least one defense first outfielder, so I have no problem with one of the Gardner/Winn tandem starting 90% of the games this year.

The only real question that I have is if Gardner can sustain the level of play at which he was at last year.

If the Garnder/Winn platoon can be equal to league average offensively and ten runs above average defensively, I think we will see Brian Cashman singing and dancing a song of joy.

This sticker is dangerous and inconvenient, but I do love Fig Newtons.

by Lord Duggan on Mar 1, 2010 8:36 PM EST reply actions  

And if the tandem gives you less than league average production by mid-year, it’s guaranteed that Cashman will make a move.

by Scooby Snacks on Mar 1, 2010 8:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I think that it's pretty much already guarenteed that Cashman will make a move

I mean, he’s Cashman.

This sticker is dangerous and inconvenient, but I do love Fig Newtons.

by Lord Duggan on Mar 1, 2010 8:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Due to turnover, there are so many other variables that affect total ‘10 team wins other than the difference between Gardner and Damon. I really can’t wait for the new season to start and put my winter geek-out, numbers-crunching off-season behind me.

by Scooby Snacks on Mar 1, 2010 8:37 PM EST reply actions  

Defense increases your wins faster because adding offense is linear, while subtracting runs on defense is exponential.

For instance, say you start with 100 runs scored / 100 runs allowed, or a ratio of 1.0.
Now, add 20 runs to make the ratio 120/100, or 1.2
If you instead subtracted 20 runs, it would be 100/80, or 1.25.
Taking if further, adding 50 runs gives you 150/100 = 1.5, while subtracting 50 runs instead gives you 100/50 = 2.0.

When you get to the extremes, defense gets even better. Let’s say your ratio is 100/2, for a ratio of 50.0. If you just cut one run, it becomes 100/1, for a ratio of 100. You have doubled your runs scored per runs allowed ratio by subtracting just one run.

Basically, the more offense you add, the less valuable each additional run scored becomes, but the more defense you add, the better it gets.

by Wraithpk on Mar 1, 2010 8:58 PM EST reply actions  

This is true I didn't think of that

but I think that somewhat speaks to the inaccuracy of the formula more than the comparable value of offense and defense.

According to the formula, a 4-3 victory is worth more than a 5-4 win, because in the first case you scored 33% more than your opponent, while in the second case, you scored 25% more.

I’m not sure that I totally buy one being a “better” win than the other. It seems like it would simply reward a team that was in a lot of low scoring games, and that’s somewhat contradicted by history, where a lot of World Series champions have been teams that pretty much relied on mashers and scoring 1000 runs in a season.

This sticker is dangerous and inconvenient, but I do love Fig Newtons.

by Lord Duggan on Mar 1, 2010 9:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes, the formula certainly has its flaws,

especially the one you mentioned. In ’08, the Rays outperformed their Pythagorean record by a bunch en route to winning the division crown. They should have only won 92 games but ended up with 97 wins. Their year had more to do with several bullpen pitchers having career years, thus they won tons of close games. Since there are so many variables that effect how a team does and how they appear to do, the formula is accurate, but far from perfect.

by Leviticus6688 on Mar 1, 2010 10:04 PM EST up reply actions  

In theory

the Mariners (or any team for that matter) should just clone Franklin Gutierrez and sacrifice the decent but not great offense in favor of absolutely astounding defense.

by Leviticus6688 on Mar 1, 2010 10:09 PM EST up reply actions  

well, the problem is that while that would increase the defense, it would also decrease the offense, making it less effective overall.

by Wraithpk on Mar 2, 2010 12:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Common Sense and Nothing New

A team over .500 stands to gain more from a run saved than a run scored and vice versa for a sub .500 team. This is nothing new and has been written about many years ago.
vr, Xei

by Xeifrank on Mar 2, 2010 1:37 AM EST reply actions  

Don't be too dismissive

Common sense to you and me is a new discovery to someone just dipping a toe into statistical analysis.
I think it’s a clearly written explanation of Bill James’ Pythag formula.

I like his application of the general to the 2010 Yanks: explaining why Gardner’s bat doesn’t have to approach the quality of Damon’s yet Gardner could have the more valuable season for the Yankees.

"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."

by jscape2000 on Mar 2, 2010 8:30 AM EST up reply actions  

I wasn't trying to break new ground,

I was merely taking a well known idea in the baseball community and putting into perspective based on the upcoming year’s team.

by Leviticus6688 on Mar 2, 2010 10:30 AM EST up reply actions  

If I

came across a little too snipey, I apologize for that. I just meant to point out that this is pretty common knowledge. Keep up the good work.
vr, Xei

by Xeifrank on Mar 2, 2010 6:50 PM EST up reply actions  

very well written

i would wonder what the granderson effect is, i wonder what the formula would come up with

by Justin Dudley on Mar 2, 2010 11:29 AM EST reply actions  

Did this study

take Cervelli into account? Apparently not, because the win total should be around 162.

by david d on Mar 2, 2010 11:47 AM EST reply actions  

Once again, I say "Well, maybe."

Runs in the aggregate don’t matter at all. Bill James assumes that a certain number of close games won is a deviation from the norm, and that the next season the team will come down to earth. Therefore, the record a team “should have had” given its run differential only predicts how the team should do next year if similarly constituted.

However, good teams win close games in any sport. That’s what defines them as good teams. Mediocre teams lose a lot of close games, terrible teams lose close games and blowouts as well. The Rays “return to earth” in 2009 was more than the product of their bullpen returning to its “true level” – a bunch of other things happened as well.

Last year the Yankees played a number of games in which they were truly clobbered, giving up more than 10 (in one game 20) runs and scoring only a few, games in which they threw in the towel when the score got bad and let it get worse. I haven’t looked it up. If they had made more of a pitching effort in those games, they might have lost by 4 or 5 runs instead of 10 or 12, and their Jamesian numbers would have more closely matched their actual win total.

Meanwhile, once June rolled around and Hughes began setting up with Coke and Robertson and Aceves, they began winning tight, reasonably low scoring games. There is no reason that this should not continue this year if the bullpen performs the same. There is no question that the Yankees were primarily carried by their bats last year (1st in just about every offensive category that matters). If they fail to repeat, it will more likely be because they couldn’t come from behind late in games as they did any number of times last year. This would demonstrate to me that for the Yankees, at least, runs scored are equally or more valuable than runs defensed, and that what is important is winning close games, not run differential.

 

by designatedquitter on Mar 2, 2010 2:45 PM EST reply actions  

I don’t know if I believe they purposely gave up on games and let the other teams score. The pitchers certainly don’t want their ERAs to blow up, and the hitters aren’t going to give up at-bats just because they’re losing.

by Wraithpk on Mar 3, 2010 8:04 PM EST up reply actions  

But the manager

decided to put less talented arms on the mound, sub scrubs for the starters, and asked pitchers who might normally pitch an inning to go 2 or 3, giving some hitters a second look.

The team made the decision to be less efficient.

"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."

by jscape2000 on Mar 4, 2010 1:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Blowouts have less of an impact than you think

Because a team like the 2009 Yankees wins more blowouts than they lose.

by 3460kuri on Mar 8, 2010 12:44 PM EST up reply actions  

All good team win more blowouts than they lose.

I think the Yanks just happened to get blown out more than most good teams do in games that they lost. I may have to go through last years schedule again, but it seems like they lost a bunch of games by 10-15 runs

by designatedquitter on Mar 8, 2010 2:17 PM EST up reply actions  

It's all perception

You remember the ugly 22-4 loss against Cleveland and the 15-5 loss against Tampa. because both were early in the season, and both were started by Chien-Ming Wang. But it’s easier to forget the 15-0 drubbing of the Mets in July, or all the 10-0 and 11-1 wins against AL Central and AL West teams in the middle of the season.

The Yankees would up going 7-4 in games decided by 10 or more runs last year, with a run differential of +25 to boot. Blowouts aren’t what skewed their run differential.

Where they really outperformed expectations was in games decided by 3 or fewer runs. They went 61-29 in these games, a .678 winning percentage, although their run differential suggests their record should have been closer to 53-37.

Obviously, it’s not “luck” per se – teams with both good offenses and good bullpens are more likely to outperform these types of expectations.

by 3460kuri on Mar 8, 2010 3:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Total runs...

Is merely an indicator of talent and expectation, what matters most is how you perform in the clutch. Yanks performed admirably on both offense and pitching when it counted last year. This team needs a guy who can both create a run vs. good pitching and save a run with good D. Gardner’s the man. Can’t wait to watch Granderson, Gardner, and Winn chasing down the very few mistakes made by Joba and Mo while they are shutting the door in October.

by steelerwheeler on Mar 3, 2010 2:01 PM EST reply actions  

Individual players don't want to see their stats blown up

but the manager decides whether a pitcher is going to “take one for the team” when they’re already down 10 runs and they need someone with nothing working to finish two innings. Also, when the score is 22-4 in the bottom of the 9th, you just don’t see that many guys trying to work the count. Also, the umpires tend to enlarge the strike zone.

Also, in a 22-4 game, you don’t see your closer, best set-up guy, or the people you expect to use in the next game. You see Nick Swisher pitch. You saw Cody Ransom and Berroa go in for Jeter and ARod. The Yankees were blown out quite a number of times for a team with 103 wins, and my point is that those numbers skew Bill James pythagorean theory.

by designatedquitter on Mar 4, 2010 10:38 AM EST reply actions  

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