Chan Ho Park?
by RollingWave on Feb 22, 2010 7:00 AM EST
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PrintAccording to Korean sources, Chan Ho Park signed with the Yanks for 1.2 M. seems a bit odd of a signing, though Park as a reliever isn't terrible.
Hmmm, looks like it's confirmed.
http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100222&content_id=8110926
Park is obviously famous for his disastrous (and profitable) stint with Texas, but he had some nice years with the Dodgers (4 actually) and he wasn't terrible as a reliever in the last couple of years.
His fast ball which had been clocked on average in the high 80 or very low 90s in Texas saw a noticeable uptick with the move to the pen, and he could usually sit 92-93 and hit some 95 .
I guess this is OKish signing, though it begs the question of what they're going to do with Mitre? As it stands now it seems highly likely (that barring injuries) the pitching staff will look like...
CC / AJ / Andy / Javy / Joba
Mo/Hughes/Robertson/Aceves / Marte / Gaudin/ Park
Almost all of those are pretty much locks (As bad as Park can be at times, he's still better than Mitre.)
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OH GOD!
We’re not making the playoffs! We didn’t sign the best reliever in the league! OH NO!
***finds window and jumpsFhew! Only 2 stories, I only sprained a pinkie (according to the “Tony Romo guidlines on being a puss”, I’ll be out for 4 weeks)
Park can bring it out of the pen as opposed to the rotation (what an UNFATHOMABLE CONCEPT!!!!!!) and is actually a pretty good signing.
This guy was pretty good against the Yanks in the WS remember? Good move Cashman. You keep all this stuff up, you’ll be the “genius GM”, not that poser over in Bahston
Theres gonna be a ho park in the bullpen?How do I get tickets for the ride?
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by cashman bashman on Feb 22, 2010 9:40 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
call Cervelli
"I got a team that even Hakeem couldn't dream!"
#88 ya'll
by FreeBradshaw on Feb 22, 2010 10:30 PM EST up reply actions
Not a bad move
The guy is pretty good out of the pen, and he didn’t cost much. So, why not? Shoot, during a season you wind up going thru about 20 or so pitchers, anyway, so adding another good one can only help. Have fun in Scranton, Sergio Mitre.
its a luxery
to be able to take a chance on Park as a reliever. With the potential strength that we have, if we land CHP as a strong mid inning reliever(although id be surprised if he was to thrive) would be a great pick-up
if he stinks up tha place..well.. no biggie!
Well remember last year
you can never have too much pitching. The Yankees used a lot of relievers during the regular season. They weeded them out for the playoffs things worked out alright as I remember.
if there's one man who won't be a friend to a Japanese
It’s a Korean dude
Perhaps then ...
They wanted to light a fire under Igawa-san?
"Baseball is the background music of my life." -George Will
Bright Side/Down Side
Bright Side: It lessens the chance that Sergio Mitre will be on the major league roster.
Down Side: It lessens the chance that Mark Melancon, Romulo Sanchez, etc. will get a chance to be on the roster.
This signing is upsetting for one main reason. For the last 2 years the Yankees had focused on developing their bullpen through the farm system, and it’s worked. David Robertson. Alfredo Aceves. Even for guys who weren’t that good like Edwar Ramirez and Jose Veras, they were able to make solid major league contributions before hitters figured them out. Park is a signing that’s reminiscent of the mid-2000’s philosophy of signing/acquiring veteran scrubs who never had any success in the AL. Felix Heredia, Gabe White, etc. Yes, Park had good numbers out of the pen last year, but he was very mediocre even out of the pen in 2008. The final spot in the bullpen could have been much better used by giving Mark Melancon or whichever younger guy won the spot major league innings and experience and seeing what happened.
by Let's Talk About Tex Baby on Feb 22, 2010 9:42 AM EST reply actions
It only has that downside if a minor leaguer can’t push the vet off the roster with stellar performance.
Another option is that Cash wants to send someone (Joba/Hughes/Aceves) to AAA to stretch out as a starter.
"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."
12th spot not for young reliever
Adding Vazquez gives Yanks another 200 IP starter they did not have last year. With Marte healthy and complete confidence in Aceves, Robertson, Joba/Hughes and Mo that leaves you a long reliever/inning eater/6th starter (Gaudin) and a 12th pitcher that only gets to play when the game is out of reach or several other relievers are tired. Not good to have young talent sit around for 10 days and then ask them to be sharp. Perfect role for a vet starter turned reliever…and if he sucks we cut him and use the Scranton shuttle for a young guy who’s had the oportunity to pitch and stay sharp.
by steelerwheeler on Feb 24, 2010 11:12 AM EST up reply actions
Also
Why are we signing righties? We only have one solid lefty in the pen.
or C)
How many lefties do you really need?
Why 2?
Especially when that 2nd lefty is somebody terrible like Boone Logan or Kei Igawa?
Because
what if Marte gets hurt? Or is ineffective? Or, more pratically:
what if he is needed to pitch in 3-4 straight days?
what if there is a big spot with a lefty bat (e.g. Otiz, Howard, etc.) TWICE after the starter is pulled but before we want to put the closer/bridge in? Happens a lot, especially in higher scoring games.
If the option is going with one of the good but not great righty relievers
(Aceves, Robertson) because we can’t use the best relievers (Marte, Hughes, Mo), are you really telling me you’d rather use Boone Logan?
You have more faith in Boone Logan to get an out than Ace or Robertson? I don’t care what side of the plate the dude stands on, you don’t get talent just by pitching with your left hand.
There’s absolutely no logical reason why we should keep a crappy reliever instead of a more talented reliever, just cuz the first guy is a lefty.
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I hate this argument
I want a good pitcher, and I don’t care which hand he throws with. Give me a good right-hander instead of a crappy left-hander any day of the week.
by Ed Valentine on Feb 22, 2010 6:13 PM EST up reply actions
Well with Wang and matsui gone....
we need to meet our Asian quota…
by lololol on Feb 22, 2010 10:30 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Is this guaranteed money?
It seems like since there was no money available for Damon because the mythical budget was reached, that Winn and Park must have been signed for free. (Not that Damon was a must- sign, only that it seems tlike the money was there if they actually wanted to sign him).
I sort of get this signing, but I’m not enthusiastix about it for all the reasons everyone else has already mentioned. I will also have to stop pretending that Chan Ho Park is where you go to walk your dog.
by designatedquitter on Feb 22, 2010 12:06 PM EST reply actions
Park is clearly a better option than both Mitre and Gaudin
Listen, Gaudin’s 2009 stint with the Yankees brings to mind memories of Shawn Chacon and Aaron Small. All three were able to defy the odds and put up stellar numbers for part of a season, but Chacon and Small collapsed the following year and were out of baseball shortly thereafter. What happens to Gaudin is anybody’s guess, but his horrendous WHIP and high home run rates scare the daylights out of me.
Park is a serviceable pitcher. He’s better as a reliever at this point in his career, but if needed, he can make a spot start without having to be stretched out or handled with kid gloves. And, my bets are that he’s going to pitch better than Chad Gaudin or Sergio Mitre in either role, so it’s a win/win.
Signing a veteran to this type of contract (1 year, low dollar amount) is never a mistake. Never.
No..
They acquired him because of his experience, and for little money, short term. To be honest a better option than a Albaledejo or Ramirez.
by Great Gatsby on Feb 22, 2010 1:20 PM EST up reply actions
Spring Training?
Jeepers, they have been there for about 2 days. How could somebody look awful already? They’re basically just tossing the ball around right now.
by Ed Valentine on Feb 22, 2010 1:55 PM EST up reply actions
eh i guess it's depth
but i’d rather give a shot to Melancon. he’s probably pissed.
Section 203 Row 15 Seat 1
No hurry..
What is the hurry with guys like Melancon and this other guy Sanchez? The bottom line is until you prove yourself at the major league level, all prospects. Really the kid Melancon looked pretty raw to me when he was up last year, another year in the minors isn’t going to hurt him.
A guy like Aceves for example, they got him from the Mexican League, he wasn’t a kid when he came over here. I don’t think any of us wll miss a Mitre, if Park makes the team, and he doesn’t.
by Great Gatsby on Feb 22, 2010 1:32 PM EST up reply actions
He can be disappointed
But a rookie who has done absolutely nothing at the big-league level has no right to ever be pissed about management trying to make the team better.
by Ed Valentine on Feb 22, 2010 1:56 PM EST up reply actions
what i'm trying to say is,
he wanted his shot. if it didn’t work out, it didn’t work out. off tho Scranton you go
Section 203 Row 15 Seat 1
He didn’t get anything yet.
They’re 2 days in spring training.
Melancon can still make the squad.
MO, Marte, Hughes (???), Ace, Robertson, Park. Seems like there could be a spot for one more.
If Melancon earns it, he can make it. As always its on him.
As always, too early to determine anything.
by FreeBradshaw on Feb 22, 2010 3:01 PM EST up reply actions
And..
Gaudin, they would have non-tendered him, if they thought he might not be with the team. They signed him before he went to arbitration.
by Great Gatsby on Feb 23, 2010 8:05 AM EST up reply actions
40 man Roster
Who will they eliminate?
by justinxyankeesfan on Feb 22, 2010 3:16 PM EST reply actions
Im guessing Edwar could be DFA'd
Or someone like Mitre or Gaurdin is traded to LA for the rights to Jamie Hoffman.
Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.
by CasanovaWong on Feb 22, 2010 3:58 PM EST up reply actions
I'd rather DFA Mitre than Edwar
at least Edwar has had success with the Yankees. Mitre is the one who should be DFA’s, if they are going to DFA somebody.
espn still has him as one of the 'prominent free agent remainingl
If this is true though….blah….we’ll see what he can do…..
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by NYYWinsRings27 on Feb 22, 2010 3:40 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Well, it’s not untrue, which is good enough for ESPN!
"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."
Early hook for starters
With a surplus in the bullpen, I think Girardi will shuffle kids back and forth to the minors more often now. It allows him to protect starters from high pitch counts. It’s all geared towards October.
I wish we could continue to just show up and play for no reason. No umpires, no scorers. Just show up and have fun.
-- Alex Rodriguez
Fairly low cost pitching depth
If Park can pitch well out of the pen like he did with the Phillies and Dodgers, he’ll be a relative bargain.
This move almost assures that either Hughes or Joba will start out the year in AAA.
by Scooby Snacks on Feb 22, 2010 7:13 PM EST via mobile reply actions
park
we got chan ho park for 1 million less than what we paid jose molina. looking at the numbers and how much they both contribute. Ill take park.
And..
Park was offered 3.25 mill. for one year by the Fightin’ Phils and turned it down? Molina made about 2.5 mill. last year.
by Great Gatsby on Feb 23, 2010 8:19 AM EST up reply actions
28th Nervous Breakdown
Chan Ho Park. I’m banging my head against the wall, trying to forget the pain!! WE NEED ANOTHER LEFTY RELIEVER!!!!! I’m worried there’s going to be a lot more late inning homers in the rightfield bleachers and they ain’t always gonna be ours this time… Please Brian Cashman, sign a lefty!!! One lefty in the pen for this ballpark, get serious. Why don’t the Rockies just go out and load their team with guys that just throw curveballs and we’ll just jetison every lefty from the staff.
by SteveBalboniHOF on Feb 22, 2010 9:02 PM EST reply actions
That's funny
apparently Cashman got all caught up in whether or not an available pitcher was “talented”, and forgot to just grab the first piece of crap he saw that threw with his left hand.
If we’re looking for a LOOGY, we’re gunna have plenty of them in AAA (Logan, Igawa, De La Rosa).
I just don’t understand at all why you have this mad desire that Damaso Marte won’t fill our quota of lefties. Weren’t you watching when Joe Torre would go and get Mike Myers out of the pen to get out David Ortiz….and Ortiz would rope the first pitch he saw?
An above average righty is better than a below average lefty. God, this isn’t rocket science.
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We only had one lefty in the bullpen for like %95 of the regular season
and still won 100+ games. Chill out.
Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.
by CasanovaWong on Feb 22, 2010 9:36 PM EST up reply actions
Verbal Zanax
Ok maybe I over-reacted. The thought of having Mike Myers in there brought me to my senses.
by SteveBalboniHOF on Feb 23, 2010 9:30 AM EST reply actions
chan ho park
cashman should have kept wang for just a little more money. he wins 19 games 2 years in a row, then gets hurt so they ditch him. what a joke and a major mistake
Wang wont be ready to pitch until May
Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.
by CasanovaWong on Feb 24, 2010 4:11 PM EST up reply actions
Plus those 2 years in a row were 2006 and 2007.
Wish Wanger all the luck in the world. It would be a joke and a mistake to expect him to win 19 games in 2010.
Something tells me he’s coming back to New York too. And he’s not Puerto Rican so he’s not going to Flushing
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#88 ya'll
by FreeBradshaw on Feb 24, 2010 4:34 PM EST up reply actions
Perhaps, but Wang last won 19 in 2007
He’s been hurt for a year and a half, winning 8 in 2008 and then 1 in 2009. I also understand that he may not be ready this year until June. That history makes Wang someone you take a chance on for short money if you’re the Nationals or the Royals, not someone the defending world champions pay large bucks to keep. That’s why Wang is so cheap- he’s a reclamation project at this point.
by designatedquitter on Feb 24, 2010 2:45 PM EST reply actions
Park will flop...
I think this is a waste of money. They have a “budget?”
Yankees did something they always do, go gaga over a guy that pitches well against them.
Park pitched well in the WS last year vs the Yanks. Thats in a short run. He can not do it consistently.
Look at the bigger view. Look at all the good years for Park. What do they have in common?
They were all NL.
Lifetime NL ERA 3.99, WHIP 1.346, K/BB 1.97
Lifetime AL ERA 5.79, WHIP 1.610 K/BB 1.47
Can you say no DH and didnt face the good Philly lineup last year?
Typically a pitchers ERA is about .5 less in the NL. But if yo go to the AL east, I would say it would be closer to .75.
So a bullpen guy with a 4.80-5.30 era? Not that good.
How would you feel if every other inning he gave up a run when the Yanks are trying to shut the other team down?
We already have guys that are about that caliber (including Ramirez, Albaledejo, Guadin, Ace, etc.). At least Guadin has shown he can perform in the AL in the past.
I would take Ace or Guadin in a heartbeat over Park.
So why spend the 1.2 million? This does not make sense unless there is a plan later in the spring to trade one of them.
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