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New York Yankee Notes: Fan Behavior At Forefront

Here are some New York Yankee notes for your Tuesday afternoon. In the wake of Texas Rangers CEO Chuck Greenberg making critical comments about Yankee fans Monday some of these, appropriately, touch on that.

Unfortunately, Chuck Greenberg's comments about Yankees fans aren't completely off the mark
Whatever role Lee's free agency may play in Greenberg's comments, however, there is a larger theme at work here. I'm not sure where he saw the apathy he mentioned, but the violent behavior, at least in terms of anger and incivility, is surely real.

Let's face it, there is a segment of Yankee fans that seems to think being obnoxious is part of the job description.

Mike Francesa Defends Violent Yankee Fans | The Big Lead
Mike Francesa has New York hoodlums backs. "You don’t make statements that can come back and bite you in the rear end. You don’t wanna call the Yankee fan base violent because then you’re going to be asked to back up what violent means. They’re going to have to retract violent because the Yankee fans were not violent. OK? They might have been discourteous but they were not violent. Violent is a ridiculous word…"

Violent Yankee Fans Brawl During Game 5 ALCS v Texas Rangers [Video] " BobsBlitz.com
"You don't make statements that can come back and bite you in the rear end. You don't wanna call the Yankee fan base violent because then you're going to be asked to back up what violent means. They're going to have to retract violent because the Yankee fans were not violent. OK? They might have been discourteous but they were not violent. Violent is a ridiculous word..."

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Yankees' organizational meetings begin with emphasis on budget, free agents | NJ.com
The New York Yankees’ organizational meetings to address offseason plans are under way.

As Rangers Pursue Lee, a Lesson in Overpaying - NYTimes.com
Cliff Lee is almost ready for the showroom, a sleek sports car with a steep sticker price. The Texas Rangers have five days to sign him before other teams can make free-agent bids, and they know the Yankees will be waiting. The Rangers would be wise to back away.

When the Yankees are desperate and armed with a checkbook, they almost never lose. And if the Rangers needed proof about the danger of paying full price for pitching, they need only look at the team that beat Lee, 3-1, to win the World Series on Monday.

The San Francisco Giants reign in baseball, with a homegrown crop of dominant pitchers and a lineup whose cleanup man, Cody Ross, was claimed on waivers. Their most expensive player is Barry Zito, who pitched his way off the postseason roster down the stretch.

What Went Wrong: Chad Ho Moseley | River Avenue Blues
Every team has a few of them every single season; replacement level relievers, or worse. Most of the time these guys are buried in the back of the bullpen, throwing low-leverage innings once or twice a week when his team had a big lead or a big deficit. The Yankees were (un)lucky enough to have three guys like that this year, and they even came with a cheesy nickname: Chad Ho Moseley. Let’s review…

Patterson reportedly set to interview for coaching job | The Lohud Yankees Blog
Gil Patterson will be among those interviewing for the Yankees pitching coach position.

Position to Watch: Yankees’ Catcher | FanGraphs Fantasy Baseball
During this offseason, the Yankees’ catcher "battle" will be one of the more prominent positional competitions to keep an eye on. Barring a free agent addition, which seems unlikely, the Yankees will go into 2011 with three distinctly different catchers, all of whom could have some value to your team. Here they are, in no particular order.

Mattingly learning to manage in Fall League - NYPOST.com
A trip home to Indiana would have been nice after six weeks of spring training, a 162-game schedule and the underachieving season the Los Angeles Dodgers had.

Don Mattingly just didn’t have time for it.

The former player known as Donnie Baseball had more baseball to coach, more on-the-job training to get after being named the Dodgers’ next manager.

So, after the season was over, Mattingly headed to the desert to honor his commitment to manage in the prospect-rich Arizona Fall League, the training ground for his turn in the spotlight next year when he takes over for the departed Joe Torre.

"It’s been really good for me," Mattingly said. "It’s kind of the price you pay to get where you’re going."

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Definitely spitting at his family.

:D

"I'd like to thank the good lord for making me a Yankee fan."

by Jeterian 2 on Nov 2, 2010 1:07 PM EDT reply actions  

The brawl video

At 15 and 17 seconds my boys come into the video from securitas hahaha. Rafael and Morris! God how I miss Yankee Stadium.

**FREE FreeBradshaw***

Pitchers and catchers report in 104 days.

by Chris McKeown on Nov 2, 2010 1:27 PM EDT reply actions  

I was thinking a love child between David Wright and Dave Robertson.

Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.

by CasanovaWong on Nov 2, 2010 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I suppose I can see that as well

**FREE FreeBradshaw***

Pitchers and catchers report in 104 days.

by Chris McKeown on Nov 2, 2010 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

At first glance

I thought it was Nick Johnson screaming “I’ll be back! I do NOT always get hurt!”

There's always next year

by david d on Nov 3, 2010 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Idea to make peace with Lee's wife

Get 10 of the most obnoxious bleacher creatures and let her pelt them with beer and garbage. Sadly, alcohol is at the root cause of most of this. Get people even in the good seats who are probably already arrogant, rich, likely also pre-gamed and you will get bad behavior. The offenders in Lee’s wife case much be rich idiots because how else could they afford good playoff tickets and waste $10 beers. I thought we were better than Philly fans.

by upstateNYYFan1984 on Nov 2, 2010 1:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Is there any way to differentiate between

beer intentionally spilled from above and accidentally? Doubtful. People in every main level section are always complaining that the section above them is spilling beer on them intentionally. Shit happens when people are jumping around and drinking and whatnot. The section they’re in is always the visiting teams friends and family section and has two uniformed NYPD officers stationed at it. If there had been a real problem the offenders would have been thrown out.

Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.

by CasanovaWong on Nov 2, 2010 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Boy, the ol’ hate-on-Yankee-fans thing just never gets old, does it? I’m sure no Ranger fan has EVER acted inappropriately… no, other MLB parks NEVER have unpleasant experiences with cursing, beer-throwing, etc. It’s incredible how much hate you have to put up with if you’re a Yankee fan. I’m not defending the fans who caused a problem at Game 5 of the ALCS, just saying that it’s a problem in just about any kind of live sports audience, and singling out Yankee fans for it is just another way of bashing on the Yankees.

Evidently George Steinbrenner was the ultimate wagoner.
Your fellow Yankee fans are not the enemy.

by Yankee Frankee on Nov 2, 2010 2:38 PM EDT reply actions  

I've been to more than a few ballparks- Yankee fans are among the worst, and alcohol is behind it.

The only saving grace about the situation is that if Lee became a Yankee, none of this crap would be directed at him or Mrs Lee.

Yankees fans seem to think that if they spill beer on you accidentally, it’s ok, because, well they’re drunk and it was an accident.

by designatedquitter on Nov 2, 2010 4:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Every fan base in sports has idiots and morons

The Yankees for some reason have to always be singled out. I dont think Yankees fans are anything close to Philly fans(who wear it like a badge of honor BTW)when it comes to being rude, arrogant and potentially violent.

Should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be facing a finality beyond your comprehension, and you will not be counting days, or months, or years, but milleniums in a place with no doors.

by YankeesJets on Nov 2, 2010 9:15 PM EDT reply actions  

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