Melky Cabrera and Johnny Damon?
by jetanumba2 on Oct 4, 2010 7:37 AM EDT
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PrintSeeing as how Melky Cabrera may be non-tendered by the Braves and the Tigers won't be bringing Damon back, is there a chance that we might sign either (or possibly even both) to a small one year deal or something? Cabrera would be the 4th outfielder we really needed since we've gotten rid of all our outfield youth and Damon could be the DH we need. Unless the rise of Brett Gardner has made him irrelevant of course. We still need a solid 4th outfielder
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Nope.
First off Melky stinks. There’s no point in bringing him back.
As for Damon, no matter what this team does in the playoffs their age is beginning to shine through. Not a full youth movement of course is needed, but I’d rather they not get a mercenary like Damon back
Our 3 OF positions are set. All 3 are pretty young who the hell knows what Granderson will do with a full season of his reworked swing.
If we’re getting a DH, Adam Dunn is the one (if he wants to DH).
Winning cures all...even stupid
Montero ain't getting called up next year
Posada will still catch and DH, but for the Berkman/Thames roll Dunn is better then Damon.
Winning cures all...even stupid
Yes he is.
They can’t afford Dunn unless they pass on Cliff lee. With no established DH the best way to go is Jorge and Montero switching duties.
they'll pass on Cliff Lee if Pettitte's coming back.
Winning cures all...even stupid
by FreeBradshaw on Oct 4, 2010 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Montero's future is to catch, not to DH.
and he’s still gotta work on that. He needs at least another year in AAA to work on it.
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by FreeBradshaw on Oct 4, 2010 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Doubt it.
About CLiff Lee. They were willing to give up Montero for him. Now that it’s onyl money they’ll go all out for him.
And yes Montero’s future is to catch but the Yankees seem weary of his future there. I disagree but if they were willing to give him up they see Romine more of the future catcher.
Regardless Montero will get his chance at catching as part of s C and DH rotation.
Cliff Lee's back is a ticking time bomb
if they’re smart they’ll avoid him.
The Yankees seem to either undervalue their own prospects talent or just not have a clue. They had no idea AJAX could play CF this year in MLB, and they misjudged that.
Romine is nothing more then a glorified Cervelli. If they feel he’s their “future” at C, they might as well sign a stop gap while Gary Sanchez develops.
Winning cures all...even stupid
by FreeBradshaw on Oct 4, 2010 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions
disagree
Romine is certainly better than cervelli by far in terms of power, arm and even defense at this point. Montero will probably come up next year mid season as keep sticking him in AAA is basically pointless as he is tearing thru it after a bad half.Ajax was basically tigers lucking out, and his production at the MLB level looks great but the staggering numbers of K’s and lack of power + other influences points to him still needing refinement. the only way i don’t see montero coming up next season is if he gets traded for mostly likely an Ace pitcher.
And that is if the yankees can;t sign cliff lee. There’s a difference between you not wanting cliff lee on this team and the yankees ready to give the guy a blank check. And at this point from everything that has been done, it seems very likely the yankees are willing to take a chance on “the ticking time bomb” . (which BTW is only a muscle problem which heals over the off season) As long as he has no major history of arm problems it is highly unlikely the front office won’t pursue him.
The idea all good minor league prospect are going to be aces is heavily flawed , we saw in 2008 how having too many young pitchers up at one time hurted us. Plus we have no 5th or maybe even 4th starter starter depending on the off season and outside of nova our minor league prospects really haven;t had much AAA experience. I really don;t see the yanks deciding not to go after the best pitcher in the AL not named Felix because he gets tired for one month.
Cliff Lee's muscle problem has been a recurring injury over his career
its a ticking time bomb regardless of how hard his nuts are jocked. Cliff Lee is not a wise decision and could prove to be a disaster of a signing.
Romine has hit about 10Hrs a year, but he doesn’t have much power at all. He’s OPSd .726 in AA. That’s why I said glorified Cervelli, cuz that’s what he is.
And you have no idea what Romine will be when exposed over time. Cervelli looked excellent last year, but has regressed.
Winning cures all...even stupid
by FreeBradshaw on Oct 4, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions
cervelli never exactly hit well in the minors
Romine is a better candidate to be a guy like miguel montero as he’s not exactly a power hitter but more of a .270 avg and double hitter. Cervelli was never supposed to be good and he was worked out to some value. Romine i don;t see as say the next coming of mauer but his production can translate to a above avg catcher in the majors.
And once again on Lee, we can’t predict injury for the most part. I haven;t read anything that suggests that the Back injury is something recurring. I do know he has hit the DL for an Abdomen strain, Groin Strain but nothing consistent enough to be deemed a ticking time bomb. Plus looking into the future the pitching market is pretty shallow outside of lee for the next two years. also this is a pretty good analysis of lee written in may, which lays out the benefits and the detriments of signing him and as of now the benefits really looks to outweigh the cons in my opinion. http://riveraveblues.com/2010/05/looking-ahead-cliff-lee-27982/
How many HR does Mauer have?
"I'm just tryin' to be the great, tryin' to get a piece of cake
Take it offa your plate, eat it right in your face" --Lil Wayne
I would guess he means Romine. Here’s his OPS by month:
April: .917
May: .858
June: .667
July: .633
August: .554
September (5 games) .983
As the year went on he really fell of a cliff. You have to hope that was just a slump, some bad luck, or the result of something correctable, not him being “exposed.”
Either way, if I were a betting man, I’d still wager that Romine gets flipped within the next 2 years.
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lets hope not,
the yankees dont need a sub par catcher at this point.if cervelli gets his bat going a little more. montero will be a memory
looking forward to #28
Cervelli can never get his bat going enough to make Montero a memory
Romine isn’t in that class either.
Montero is basically a young Posada. That’s better then 90% of MLB catches and an asset to the Yankees
Winning cures all...even stupid
Montero’s bat is far better than Posada’s ever was. His raw power potential is immense, we’re talking 30-40 HR annually. What the scouts rave about with him, though, is his superb pitch recognition and uncanny ability to square up balls on the barrel of the bat. If he reaches his potential, he could win MVPs.
you could look at it that way
Or you could wonder if there’s a better place for him to develop as a catcher than in the major leagues. He’ll be under the eye of Tony Pena (former catcher), Joe Girardi (another former catcher), Jorge Posada (borderline HOF catcher), and Francisco Cervelli (God, he has all eyes on everyone all the time). Is there really a better place for him to learn how to catch in the big leagues than to learn from the experience of what those guys have to say? And to watch them?
Montero wouldn’t be the full time DH. He’d get a lot of catching time, possibly even more than Posada. Montero’s bat is ready, and he deserves the call next year.
I hate all Boston sports teams
I think Montero will get called up next year. If he’s tearing up AAA in June, they won’t be able to keep him out of the major league team. They’ll have to trade Cervelli and bring him up.
Also, what I’ve heard recently is that Montero’s defense is not nearly as bad as we thought. People are saying that he could definitely catch at the major league level and wouldn’t hurt his team that much with his defense. From the sound, I would say he’s probably around Victor Martinez or Posada level with his defense.
Cervelli won't need to be traded
if Montero comes up as a platoon catcher/DH situation with Posada, Cervelli still remains as a backup. There’s no need to trade him.
Besides, Cervelli’s God Given Son needs to be on the same team as him for many years.
I hate all Boston sports teams
I could see it
if Montero is there to do some DH’ing and to learn from Jorge and Cervelli. He’d be splitting DH duties with Jorge and actually do minimal catching.
if Montero's going to be doing minimal catching
…then he ain’t gonna be with the Yankees.
He needs to catch, every day, since that’s what he’s gonna be.
Winning cures all...even stupid
Oh, I agree
Just stating how the Yanks could carry three catchers. This scenario could work for a short spell.
no doubt
if Posada gets injured again that would be an easy reason to bring him up
Winning cures all...even stupid
"If" Posada gets hurt? You mean "when."
Posada will be 40. Whether he actually goes on the DL or just misses a few games in a row here and there would be the question. I could see Monteiro on the Scranton shuttle next year, playing when Posada is disabled and then being sent back down so he can stay busy.
by designatedquitter on Oct 7, 2010 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions
if Posada's on the DL, then probably Montero gets the call
if its a few games, no way they waste theirs and Jesus’ time
Winning cures all...even stupid
Montero should catch the majority of the games next year
Posada should be close to a full time DH and Montero should get over 100 games behind the plate.
If the Yankees turn Posada into a primary DH next season with a few games behind the plate sprinkled in there, they could hang on to Cervelli and it could work out.
I hate all Boston sports teams
I think most of us here agree with you
The question is if he’s ready. The only way to find out is to give him the opportunity to show not only the brass, but himself.
What is the point of not calling up Montero?
"Young men, I have no doubt that you're gonna do well today. But I have 1 favor to ask of you... SAVE JIMMY JOHNSON'S ASS FOR ME!" Lou Holtz
by TheRealSlimShady on Oct 4, 2010 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Cervelli is not good
and Posada is old. We need to at least give him a chance.
There's no half-singing in the shower, you're either a rock star or an opera diva.
What is the point of not calling up Montero?
"Young men, I have no doubt that you're gonna do well today. But I have 1 favor to ask of you... SAVE JIMMY JOHNSON'S ASS FOR ME!" Lou Holtz
by TheRealSlimShady on Oct 4, 2010 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Sorry
misread. LOL
There's no half-singing in the shower, you're either a rock star or an opera diva.
Melky will likely never see pinstripes again
Johnny Damon won’t either. The Yankees are looking to go younger considering their “core-four” are aging rather quickly. Pursuing Damon or Melky would be a mistake. Damon is aging (36 or 37 I believe) and Melky can’t produce efficiently or get on base (42 RBI in 147 games played; 0.317 OBP).
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next." -George Michael Steinbrenner III
Where did this idea come from? If Melky and Damon want to come back, then the venue for it would be Old Timer's Day.
If they aren’t good enough to be Tigers or Braves, what makes them good enough to be Yankees? Who in the present outfield are they better than? Besides, I thought we had the hots for Carl Crawford.
by designatedquitter on Oct 4, 2010 12:23 PM EDT reply actions
That's true, logical, and sensible.
All reasons why it makes no difference. I can’t tell you how many non- Yankee media people think Crawford’s as good as signed by the Yankees already. Althought I expect the RedStockings to make a run at him as well.
by designatedquitter on Oct 6, 2010 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Who are we going to get rid of for Crawford? Granted, he is an improvement over our starting three, but not so much an improvement that big money needs to be thrown at him. I have to admit, though, a starting outfield of Crawford, Gardner, and Granderson would be sick defensively, but what about Swisher? We can’t lose his bat. Crawford is a nice player, but our outfield is good, we don’t need him.
We dont need a 4th outfielder. We have
plenty of guys that can play a solid OF and we dont need a DH either. We have Berkman and Thames.
There's no half-singing in the shower, you're either a rock star or an opera diva.
Melky sucks
no point in bringing him back. I know Melk (the girl) won’t like to hear it, but he’s awful. He’ll never see pinstripes again.
Damon on the other hand is a possibility, but he’s not needed. I believe the Yanks should use Montero and Posada in a catcher/DH platoon next year (one catches, the other DHs), and if they do that, there would be no place for Damon.
I appreciate what those two did in the Bronx, but they aren’t and shouldn’t be coming back.
I hate all Boston sports teams
As much as I love him
I have accepted the fact that he isnt good.
There's no half-singing in the shower, you're either a rock star or an opera diva.
WHAT?!
Say it ain’t so!
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next." -George Michael Steinbrenner III
by Chris McKeown on Oct 4, 2010 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I think this constitutes a screen name change....
Something with a puppy-like outfielder?
concentrate... concentrate... I've got to concentrate... concentrate... concentrate... Hello?... hello... hello... Echo... echo... echo... Pinch hitting for Pedro Borbon... Manny Mota... Mota... Mota...
I dont know how to....
There's no half-singing in the shower, you're either a rock star or an opera diva.
ThePuppyman
concentrate... concentrate... I've got to concentrate... concentrate... concentrate... Hello?... hello... hello... Echo... echo... echo... Pinch hitting for Pedro Borbon... Manny Mota... Mota... Mota...
LOL
What about TheCurtisman?
There's no half-singing in the shower, you're either a rock star or an opera diva.
ThePuppylickinganewbornbabyman?
concentrate... concentrate... I've got to concentrate... concentrate... concentrate... Hello?... hello... hello... Echo... echo... echo... Pinch hitting for Pedro Borbon... Manny Mota... Mota... Mota...
That sounds creepy with
the “man” at the end
There's no half-singing in the shower, you're either a rock star or an opera diva.
As opposed to Puppyman?
concentrate... concentrate... I've got to concentrate... concentrate... concentrate... Hello?... hello... hello... Echo... echo... echo... Pinch hitting for Pedro Borbon... Manny Mota... Mota... Mota...
LOL
im keeping melkman
There's no half-singing in the shower, you're either a rock star or an opera diva.
This
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing. Breathing first, winning next." -George Michael Steinbrenner III
by Chris McKeown on Oct 7, 2010 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t want Damon either and I see no reason why he would accept a bench role with the Yankees next season as he has remained relatively healthy this year.
Montero isn’t going to be rushed up to the big leagues. I think we’ll all see Posada get the bulk of DH at-bats, at least during the first-half.
by Scooby Snacks on Oct 5, 2010 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Moving Forward
Melky stinks and 4th outfielder is not a need we prior to the season starts. The Yanks can always pick up players (4 outfielders) all year long from losing teams.
I say we keep our team as is and wait until July to see what our glaring needs will be.
I too have concerns about signing Cliff Lee to a monster deal.
Hughes will be one year better, sign Andy P and give Joba andthe youth one more shot.
CC, Cliff Lee, Phil Hughes, Andy (please), AJ (Who i’m calling to have a good season next year). Mo, Woody (please), D-Rob, Joba (spot start), Boone, Ace (forgot?).
Gardner, Swish, Tex, Arod, Cano, Montero, Jorge, Grandyman, Jeter.
Golson, Nunez, Pena, Cervelli, Thames/Berkman
Section 203 Row 15 Seat 1
Would like to see Boston FA C Victor Martinez signed by Yankees w/$ Yankees
would have spent on Posada. DH could be spread amongst Montero, Thames,Swisher, Rodriguez, and Texeria.
Also sign Uribe or Jhonny Peralta to play shortstop and say goodbye to Jeter
Finally, sign Lee & say goodbye to Vazsquez
Say goodbye to Jeter?
Because he had an off batting average year? You do realize he scored us 111 runs, right? He also hit 10 homers, about average for him. He also had an average season as far as RBI and he stole 18 bases. I guess you thought we should have gotten rid of him after the ‘04 season when he hit .292. He certainly hasn’t produced since, now has he…
Jorge/Montero at DH
Keep Cervelli as third catcher until all are comfortable that Montero can catch in the bigs. Then Cervelli goes elsewhere.
No Melky ( he is just not that good) and no Damon.
Berkman, Vasquez, Thames and Johnson walk. Kearns can be that fourth OF.
No to Crawford – Gardner is 85% of Crawford, younger and cheaper.
Yes to Cliff Lee. Depending on the money he is worth the risk and there is no guarantee Andy comes back. Even if Petitte returns Lee is part of a 5 man rotation.
IMO Montero gains little by staying at AAA. If he falters on defense then Jorge plays more. But to have them as the catcher/DH tandem is a great situation.
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