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Props to Cashman


Being the general manager for the New York Yankees is not an easy job in any way, shape, or form.  But I think it's time we take solace in how good Cashman has been for the Yankees.  He has help rebuild the farm system and 60 % of the Yankee team in 2009 came from within.  Yes Cashman has a lot of money to spend but lately he has been spending it much more wisely.  All three big acquistions worked out from '08 offseason. And this offseason he got us a solid All-Star Centerfielder in a trade that cost us a decent prospect and a decent reliever.  Also when Damon and his agent were being intolerable he went out and got us a cost-efficient DH in Nick Johnson.  Also ESPN's Rob Neyer pointed this out on his blog about the age of the team, and how his goal was to make the Yankees younger.  I think it's time we show our GM some love.

    Average age of Yankee pitchers 


2005: 34.2 
2006: 32.5 
2007: 31.4 
2008: 30.6 
2009: 29.3 (which happens to be the average age of pitchers on the '96 team) 

Average age of Yankee hitters 

2005: 32.2 
2006: 30.8 
2007: 30.6 
2008: 31.3 
2009: 30.5 

     


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How did you calculate the average age?

What roster did you use? Opening day? All players who played for the team in a year? When did you measure their age (e.g., July 1?) Did you attempt to weight the average by number of innings pitched or number of plate appearances?

by cph on Jan 4, 2010 10:07 AM EST reply actions  

I don't think he factored in the fact

that A) Cervelli is older then Time itself.

and B) CC Sabathia SUCKS in the playoffs.

N8 !

by FreeBradshaw on Jan 4, 2010 12:50 PM EST up reply actions  

did u not watch

I guess you didn’t watch cc pitch this playoff season…

@b$

by abs2sweet on Jan 4, 2010 3:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Sarcasm alert.

"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."

by jscape2000 on Jan 4, 2010 3:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Baseball Reference.com

Has all the average ages listed. Pretty sure he did not go through all the years and formulate his own calculations.

by BigDanz2000 on Jan 4, 2010 12:27 PM EST reply actions  

Yes to props.

Howver one calculates average age, the team is clearly becoming younger, which generally equates with stability and fewer injuries. A decade of bringing in expensive free agents on the back nine of their careeers appears to have ended. The only long contract I think we will rue in four or five years will be ARod’s, as he slows down. I think Teixeira and Sabathia will deliver value for most or all of their contracts. These will keep the average age from going much lower than it is. It will be interesting to see how long Jeter’s next contract runs out.

by designatedquitter on Jan 4, 2010 1:12 PM EST reply actions  

nick johnson??

I can’t believe people consider that a good move. He will turn out to be a weaker and younger version of the 2003 jason giambi, always injured. Cashman is a genious yes, but if he plans to use nick as a full-time DH then he had better options. Andy Pettitte received a 6 million dollar raise this season, well deserved I think, so calling damon intolerable for desiring good money after the season he has is a bit undeserving.

@b$

by abs2sweet on Jan 4, 2010 3:04 PM EST reply actions  

But he

needs to understand that he is asking for too much in this market. Especially if your Damon who has made about $100 million in his career, why not sacrifice a 1-4 million so you can come back to a team that wants you and one that loves him. And Nick Johnson is a very solid player and he played a solid 133 games last year. And looking at his career OBP which is a suprising .402, Cashman made the right move. Btw the numbers are courtesy of NoMaas. And since ESPN a very credible newsplace used this source, the numbers are definately not fabricated.

by Brooklynsoul on Jan 4, 2010 6:29 PM EST reply actions  

Damon was mentioned in a Madoff-like scam

in February, where his assets were frozen for a time. It’s possible, though unlikely and purely speculative, Damon doesn’t have much of the $100M he’s made. Without being his accountant, there’s no way to tell if “sacrificing 1-4 million” is a viable option for him. There may be a very good reason why Damon wants a multi-year deal/more money.

Also keep in mind that if his contracts are for $100m….taxing that knocked it down to ~$60m or so, depending on state laws where he played. And yes, I’d kill for $60m but if they don’t have proper money managers, it’s easy for guys with that kind of money to go broke faster than you would think.

Camp Tortorella - Where Vomit is a Mainstay

by George E. Ays on Jan 5, 2010 9:01 AM EST up reply actions  

But still, what they

offered was 2 years 14-16 mil which is a pretty solid contract for a 36-year old left fielder. But it’s also the fact that Damon should have just bit the bullet and taken that contract because while he might think it is some kind of discount, he is coming back to team and a fanbase that love him. He should have taken charge by taken an offer like that instead of having Boras decline it. And now, he probably won’t get a contract like that and might have to get an Abreu 2009 contract.

by Brooklynsoul on Jan 5, 2010 7:10 PM EST up reply actions  

although if it's back with the Yankees

I’d say that it actually worked out better for the Yankees. They get him back at a HUGE discount. He won’t be happy, of course. But if the Yankees can get him back to an Abreu-like deal that would be terrific.

by nyyrocks29 on Jan 5, 2010 9:07 PM EST up reply actions  

That would be sweet and if it did that would

further get my point across that Cashman is doing a great job now.

by Brooklynsoul on Jan 5, 2010 9:53 PM EST reply actions  

Opinion on Cashman

A lot of people have been giving him props. Maybe in some ways he deserves that much. But, here;s my problem. Granderson was a good deal. Curtis is the man in the outfield. He left a problem in left field now. Who does he get? Dejesus sounds good. However, he’s being a little cheep. Granted, money is money. But, the Yankees set the tone for that. He brought back Vasquez and gave up Melky. That was stupid. Boston ate him for breakfast. in 2004. And now he resigned Mitre. He can’t be serious. He’s a bum. If they do not repeat, I will hold him personally responsible for that. Halladay or Lee should have been in pinstripes. And, Burnett better do a hell of a lot better this time around.

by Bigman5 on Jan 7, 2010 4:44 AM EST reply actions  

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