Pennant Caliber teams - hard numbers
To piggyback on Jscape's recent post, here are the the four (likely) AL playoff teams ranked amongst themselves:
I know Baseball Prospectus still has the Twins with about a 17% chance of making the postseason, but considering that their current starting lineup regularly contains 4-5 players hitting below replacement level, I'm not buying it.
It doesn't matter so much where the teams rank overall in individual categories as much it does how they rank against each other. I've tried to focus this on the actual lineups, rather than the best hitters by VORP. You may have ten excellent hitters, but if none of them can catch, somebody has to sit. Looking at the active rosters and injury lists, my breakdown of who's likely to be on each contender's roster is posted at the end. I also figured that the 23rd-25th roster spots don't matter much in the postseason and so I've omitted them. In doing that, it becomes pretty clear that whatever perceived flaw the Yankees have, their competitors have it worse.
It's important to note a few things. Based on 2009 stats alone, the Tigers appear to have a formidable rotation. To me, though, it's more smoke and mirrors than anything else. We all know that Justin Verlander is solid, and that Rick Porcello, while very young, is about as good a #4 starter as any team is going to pitch in the postseason. But Jarrod Washburn is iffy at this point; I've heard conflicting reports that he's done for the season and that he's not. Furthermore, in his time with the Tigers, he's solidified the fact that his early-season success (2.64 ERA with the Mariners) was a total fluke, as evidenced by his .254 BABIP this year. When a pitcher's ERA drops two runs from his career average, without upping his strikeout rate, lowering his walk rate, or changing his groundball/flyball tendancies....well, let's just say enjoy it while it lasts. Unfortunately for the Tigers, the same can be said about Edwin Jackson. He has reduced his walk rate, but his K/9, HR/9, and GB/FB are in line with his career averages. That explains a 2.54 ERA (and .249 BABIP) in the first half and a 4.79 ERA (and .311 BABIP) in the second.
The postseason is really a glorified crapshoot, but we know what generally wins: good starting pitching, good relief pitching, and good defense. The Yankees have the best combination of those things amongst the AL playoff teams. I've heard some people on this site saying they're afraid of the Tigers in the ALDS, but don't forget that they're 5-1 against them this year, having faced Verlander and Jackson a total of four times.
| Lineup | Bench | Starters | Relievers | Closer | |
| Yankees | Teixera | Hairston | Sabathia | Hughes | Rivera |
| Cano | Molina | Burnett | Aceves | ||
| Jeter | Hinske | Pettitte | Coke | ||
| Arod | Gardner | Joba | Bruney | ||
| Posada | |||||
| Damon | |||||
| Cabrera | |||||
| Swisher | |||||
| Matsui |
| Lineup | Bench | Starters | Relievers | Closer | |
| Red Sox | Youkilis | Green | Beckett | Okajima | Papelbon |
| Pedroia | Varitek | Lester | R. Ramirez | ||
| A. Gonzalez | Baldelli | Bucholz | Delcarmen | ||
| Lowell | Kotchman | Dice-K | Bard | ||
| Martinez | |||||
| Bay | |||||
| Elsbury | |||||
| Drew | |||||
| Ortiz |
| Lineup | Bench | Starters | Relievers | Closer | |
| Tigers | Cabrera | Guillen | Verlander | Lyon | Rodney |
| Polanco | Avila | Jackson | Seay | ||
| Everett | Huff | Washburn | Miner | ||
| Inge | Santiago | Porcello | Perry | ||
| Laird | |||||
| Rayburn | |||||
| Granderson | |||||
| Ordonez | |||||
| Thames |
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| Lineup | Bench | Starters | Relievers | Closer | |
| Angels | Morales | Matthews | Lackey | Oliver | Fuentes |
| Kendrick | Izturis | Weaver | Jepson | ||
| Aybar | Quinlan | Santana | Palmer | ||
| Figgins | Mathis | Kazmir | Bulger | ||
| Napoli | |||||
| Rivera | |||||
| Hunter | |||||
| Abreu | |||||
| Guerrero |
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Wow.
Your boss must wonder why you don’t get anything done during the baseball season.
Fabulous work as always.
"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."
Sox look better than Yanks
at the moment
could change; and even if it doesn’t, anything can happen when the real games start
but right now the Sox starting pitching is hot. So yearly averages aside, I do not agree that Yanks have best pitching and defense
Pettite, Riviera and CC are imposing; the rest of the Yankee pitchers not so much
hopefully, we don’t spot you 3 8/9 games this time before we get rolling, but I am feeling very good about October
The only thing sox have better than the yanks is a better bullpen
Outside of lester ur starters are as about inconsistent (or more) as the yanks starters. Offensively? It’s no match. So i don’t know what ur smoking right now…
Sox have a better bullpen?
I don’t think so.
Rivera is better than Paplebon
Hughes is better than Okijima
Ramirez is better than Bruney
Aceves is better than Delcarmen
We also have Coke, who is great when he’s on. We have the better bullpen. This isn’t the same pen that opened the season.
And I forgot about Robertson
if he’s back and strong come postseason time, then that will REALLY help us out.
Well i wouldn;t say that much better but they have more depth to be honest
wagner and saito and bard are good. but still it really doesn’t matter how good a bullpen is when the rest of ur team is inconsistent
Yankees are sacrificing...
Games to build confidence in rookies and give regular starters some rest….
Look better, cause were using our B squad…. Its doesn’t matter to Girardi if we are 9.0 games over or 2.0 at the end… aslong as we are there.
And i have to agree
by Gangsta Yanksta on Sep 18, 2009 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions
nice breakdown of the #'s
i just wish it always went according to the numbers, but in my experience, they don’t always predict the final outcome. great job!
Well, some of the stats are debatable
WXRL is supposed to be wins expected above replacement, lineup adjusted.
By this measure, Robertson has been barely above replacement level. Not saying I agree, just the limitation of the stats.
The starting pitching comparison
makes no sense because VORP takes inning into account. Thus, the obvious differnce in the Yankees and Sox rotations, since Buchholz and Matsuzaka have been severely limited by innings. It is like comparing 4 pitchers to 3. If you want an accurate accessment of how well each has pitched, use something like FIP. So (ERA in (*)):
Lester 3.02 (3.29)
Beckett 3.70 (3.80)
Buchholz 4.29 (3.49)
Matsuzaka 5.33 (7.02)
vs
Sabathia 3.43 (3.42)
Burnett 4.48 (4.48)
Pettitte 4.09 (4.14)
Chamberlain 4.68 (4.39)
Thus, the Sox top 3 have been significantly stronger than the Yankees top 3, both by fielding independent metrics and ERA. Matsuzaka has only pitched 44 innings, so it is hard to say, but since Chamberlain has been relatively poor, it is not really a big issue, especially since we are talking about limited postseason starts.
What does this mean? It means the Sox have the better front 3 during the regular season. However, the Yankees have been the better team. Their pen is slightly better, offense significantly better, and fielding better (hurts to say). Any playoff series is a crapshoot-they Yankees will have a marginally better chance of winning these series over any other competitor due to their team, not pitching, superiority.

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