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Girardi's call, Swisher's gaffe

Apparently Joe Girardi did call for Nick Swisher to bunt last night -

"I would've loved to see what would've happened if I put that bunt down," an agitated Swisher said. "I knew what I had to do and I just didn't get it done."

After the game, Yankees manager Joe Girardi said he had confidence in Swisher's ability to lay one down in such a crucial situation - he's had three successful sacrifice bunts this season.

"We were trying to get the tying run to third base," Girardi said. "Nick's been a good bunter for us. Unfortunately, he popped it up."

I'd still rather have Swisher not bunt, especially in that situation against a reeling pitcher. He doesn't lead the team in walks for nothing.

That said, the 'Fire Girardi' posts/comments are ridiculous. The Yankees have the best record in baseball. Sometimes managers, just like the rest of us, make mistakes.

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oh well

You know how it is. If the bunt works Joe is a genius. If it doesn’t, he shouldn’t be allowed to coach little league. I know its a little late in the season to claim moral victories, but I was proud they mounted that comeback at all. That kind of fight is what will help this team in the playoffs.

by swanny4eva on Aug 26, 2009 3:15 PM EDT via mobile reply actions   0 recs

You can also chalk it up to a learing experience

Armchair coaching is very easy, doing it in the dugout is why guys like Girardi get the big bucks. He wanted 2nd and 3rd with one out, then they walk Melky probably, then Jetes is up with the bases chucked. Then what?

I mean, Swish swings away, hits into a DP, then what? Idiots will lambaste him for NOT bunting of course, the guy can never EVER win (Girardi wins a WS this year, he’s STILL an idiot to some……comes with the Pinstripes I guess).

Its so easy to second guess the decision he made cuz there were so many things he could have done there. He made the decision, it backfired. Maybe next time he will do nothing and let the game play out? Who knows. Bottom line? Yanks up 6, Rangers kept pace with the Pissants.

Im more pissed at the 2 out walks than anything. Joba and Gaudin pissed me off more than anything Girardi tried to do.

Do what Jerry Hairston do

by FreeBradshaw on Aug 26, 2009 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

here here!

Couldn’t agree more. Most times when we score 5 runs we win and aren’t even in that position. And id rather make these mistakes in the regular season when we get to still play the next day.

by swanny4eva on Aug 26, 2009 3:28 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

i know

This is completely off topic, so forgive me. But who do you think we send down when Gardner comes back next week. I think it should be bruney, since he can’t seem to get it together and marte seems to be ok so far.

by swanny4eva on Aug 26, 2009 3:40 PM EDT via mobile reply actions   0 recs

fortunately

rosters expand in a week, so we can keep both and bring up more reserves like Pena, Cervelli, Shelley, etc.

by Travis G on Aug 26, 2009 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

damn

Now I feel like an idiot. I knew that. Thanks dude.

by swanny4eva on Aug 26, 2009 3:50 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

I eagerly await the return of Francisco Cervelli….hopefully they have him or Molina catch Burnett

by BlackandGoldSSgt on Aug 26, 2009 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Giraldi screwed up this one.

The name of the game is to get 27 outs, with a lead. With only 3 outs left, a guy who has 20 hrs., a left handed hitter( a right side, ground ball has the same effect), in a park where the ball fly out to right, and a pitcher who was in trouble,….YOU DON’T GIVE UP THAT PRECIOUS OUT! THIS ONE REALLY HURT! I won’t be happy with a 6 game lead until there are only 5 games left to play!

by Papo R on Aug 26, 2009 3:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Swish doesn't hit a lot of HRs at Yankee Stadium

A stat I still find surprising. And, he’d not been hitting that well last night. If a guy’s batting 8th in your order, you should be able to count on him to execute the bunt. If Swish doesn’t but, he’s still more likely to make an out than get a hit, and you have to hope it’s a productive out. With a bunt, you have a higher chance of that out being productive.

Melky’s DB liner was a bit of a fluke. Bummer to end the game that way, but that’s the way the ball bounces some days.

by waw on Aug 26, 2009 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Except Melky............

has been on a serious decline ever since Gardner got injured and his job is no longer in danger.

He WAS a borderline .300 hitter

by Gangsta Yanksta on Aug 26, 2009 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Probably a bad call ...

When you are in first place, mistakes like this just aren’t as important.

"Baseball is the background music of my life." -George Will

by Ronster22 on Aug 26, 2009 4:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

As Yoda might say: Bunt or do not bunt.

But it’s not that simple. Swisher should have been given some discretion regarding the pitch as to whether he should have tried to bunt the ball or pull back. Both pitches appeared to be high, especially the first one. A good bunter knows a high pitch is difficult to get down. The usual result is exactly what happened, an easy pop out. Had he been permitted to pull back, the two pitches would have likely been called balls. Then it would have been really interesting. Would he have walked and Melky’s liner been a triple play? Like the Mets?

by MPP11205 on Aug 26, 2009 5:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Personally...

I was begging for the bunt, and felt really relieved when I saw Swisher square around. Sure, Swish could have drawn a walk, but a .368 OBP also means that 63 percent of the time, something bad is gonna happen, including the very high possibility of a strikeout or double play.

Nine times out of ten, that sacrifice is gonna work, and Melky/Jeter (or Jeter/Damon if Melky walks) will have a great shot to tie the game.

Sacrifice bunts may be discouraged in the sabremetrics era, but we’re not talking about trying to string together another 4 runs in this particular inning (which is the modern philosophy in most situations). This is the bottom of the 9th, and we were desperate to just get one or two more runs. Had this been the 6th inning, a bunt would have been stupid, but under the circumstances the bunt was a no-brainer.

Absolutely the right call by Girardi, and I hope he makes the same decision if given the same situation in the playoffs.

by B Rose on Aug 26, 2009 6:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i would normally agree

but this situation was different in that the pitcher was struggling mightily. he probably would’ve walked Swisher (the first 2 pitches were balls), and we would’ve had bases full, no one out.

anyway, the bunt is certainly a lost art nowadays (at least in the AL) – i see NL pitchers dropping down better bunts than most AL regulars.

by Travis G on Aug 26, 2009 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Finally

I agreed with something Joe did last night.Just because Swish popped it up doesnt mean it wasnt the right thing to do.Many games were lost early because runners were not moved with a bunt.I will never bang on a guy bunting a runner to 3rd with less than 1 out to tie or take a lead late.It is the easiest safest way to score not needing a hit.Joe suprised me last night,too bad Swisher missed.

by cashman bashman on Aug 26, 2009 7:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Marte

Looked ok last night,would be sweet if he could get it together,Coke scares me,but somehow seems to get through it,wonder how long it can go on?I hate call ups,gives teams running out of gas a second wind,but will be nice to have Cervelli back.

by cashman bashman on Aug 26, 2009 7:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Joe did the right thing Swish was 3-3 on sac bunts so it is not like he was asking him to do something he hasnt attempted. Jeter probably then would have come up with the bases juiced. I like that scenario. Anyway great rally and I see were putting the boots to them tonight.

by Ricky G on Aug 26, 2009 9:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Girardi's bunt call with Swisher

It will always be be debatable whether it was the right call by Girardi for Swisher to bunt last night but what is NOT debatable is as to whether the player called upon to execute the bunt is CAPABLE of bunting. Simply put, Swisher cannot bunt. End of story. Similiarily, you don’t ask a player to steal if he is a slow runner or put in a poor fielder for defense. Those are the kind of things are what a manager is paid to do. Girardi, IMO, is frequently making the wrong decisions. And if I remember correctly, Swisher bunted at the first pitch. Is there anything with taking a strike to see if the pitcher can even get the ball over the plate. He had to be thinking about it.

by rocket109 on Aug 26, 2009 11:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Swisher CAN bunt,

he’s shown he can.

You don’t bunt there cuz the pitcher was on the ropes, he couldn’t get anyone out nor could he throw a strike.

GODZZIIIIIRRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!

by FreeBradshaw on Aug 26, 2009 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Swisher's (?) gaffe

I don’t care if the bunt works or not. Papo R is right on the money. You get three outs an inning, and giving one away (and that’s if the bunt works) is just crazy stupid. If I have one objection to Girardi’s strategy this year, it’s that he bunts too much. And by that I mean he deliberately gives his team an extra out. I thought when they hired him he was supposed to be a numbers guy who looked at the odds.

I would bet if you checked all the times Girardi has bunted this year, you’d find that on the whole it has cost the team by a decent margin.

Look at the situation last night. Guys on first and second, no outs. One run behind. That means you’ve got the tying run in scoring position. You’ve got three outs left to get a hit and drive him in. What on earth is the advantage of bunting? IF it works, and that’s a big IF with this team, you’ve got two outs to drive him in. The Yankees had a much better chance of winning this game if you don’t bunt.

If Girardi gives away at-bats like that in the playoffs, they’re in trouble.

by yankee-face on Aug 27, 2009 1:11 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Bunt and Posada

Continuing on with bunting and Girardi, it wasn’t too long ago the Yanks had runners on 1st and 2nd, Posada was at the plate and Girardi had him bunt! Can you believe that? I think he bunted into a double play. I don’t think Posada has EVER bunted before! And, in that particular at bat, he was hitting from the left side! Girardi is an idiot and unfortunately, his job is not in danger because the team is the best in baseball. They are winning but not because of him. What does he do besides make up the lineup? Speaking of that, why in the world would he ever bat Swisher in the #2 hole? He has the lowest average on the team and can’t run. Going on, A-Rod needs to be moved down. Girardi locks him in the cleanup spot but he cleans up nothing. He has the 2nd lowest batting average on the team after Swisher. I’d put him around #6. I think Cano, Matsui and Posada all should be batting ahead of A-Rod. He also has had trouble over his years with the Yankees hitting consistently in the clutch. Some of you will disagree but that is only my opinion.

by rocket109 on Aug 27, 2009 11:00 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

oh boy....

another one on the A-Rod not clutch thing….

we have a thing here; who ever mentions that A-Rod is not clutch, you must be castrated.

Yes, your opinion, but the facts say that the guy is excellent in the clutch

Most of his stats have his OBP around .400 in the clutch, so that just means they don’t pitch to him. And his OPS is 1.200+ in ‘late and close situations’. Take that for what you will……..

GODZZIIIIIRRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!

by FreeBradshaw on Aug 27, 2009 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

A-Rod

The facts say that A-Rod is one of the worst offensive players the Yankees have had in post season play. Isn’t that what it’s all about? You, me and everyone else should expect a lot more than a .260 ba out of the highest paid player not only in MLB but in all of pro sports with a quarter of a BILLION dollar contract. Sure he has hit a lot of home runs but so did Barry Bonds, Sammy Sosa, Mark McGuire, and Rafael Palmira to mention a few juice heads. He probably could do a lot better hitting if he would learn to finish his swing with two hands on the bat, swing at pitches in the strike zone and stop trying to pull every thing to left field. I mean, when did you ever see him hit a ball to the right side?

by rocket109 on Aug 27, 2009 12:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

?
I mean, when did you ever see him hit a ball to the right side?

not sure if it was yesterday or the day before, but it was this series. A-Rod when he’s on, gets a ton of hits to the right side.

Im not paying him, so I give a rats ass about his contract (or any other ballplayers contract). But A-Rod has been plenty clutch in his time with the Yankees, more so that apparently many people remember.

His playoff ‘struggles’ are well documented by the half-ass NY media and ESPN, but in 2004 he was excellent and everthing from game 4 of that year on, the rest of the team hasn’t done anything either.

He might have a .260 BA, but his EVERYTHING ELSE is right around his career norms.

GODZZIIIIIRRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!

by FreeBradshaw on Aug 27, 2009 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

A-Rod

If A-Rod didn’t struggle in post season, ESPN wouldn’t bring it up nor would anyone else, and, as far as having done well in 2004, well this is 2009! The other Yankees not doing well? Are you refering to the likes of Jeter, Posada, Paul O’neil, Scott Brosicas, Rivera, Pettite, Clemens, Cano or some others? And let’s keep in mind that they don’t make 30 million/year. Sure he hit over 500 home runs but maybe I could too if I took steroids. Same reason I don’t like or respect Clemens, even though he was a Yankee and a 7 time Cy Young award winner. That’s what drugs do. They turn athletes into robots. The NBA is next.

by rocket109 on Aug 27, 2009 2:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

A-Rod update

In the 4th, with runners on 1st and 3rd, 2 outs, “Mr. Clutch” bounces back to the pitcher to end the inning. Then again in the 7th, runners on 1st and 2nd, Mr. Clutch strikes out on 4 pitches, two of them outside of the strike zone. He’s added one or two other strikes outs during the game today. Maybe he is upset because he wants more money. If Cashman had half a brain, which he doesn’t, he should try to trade Mr. Clutch, to anybody. I would say if they could get 2 bats and a ball for him the Yanks would get the better of the deal. I can’t believe NY is stuck with this clown for the next 10 years. What A JOKE. And remember, I love the Yankees. This guy is not a true Yankee. He is a high priced primadonna who just can’t get it done. I will give him credit for one thing though. He runs the bases hard, when he gets on.

by rocket109 on Aug 27, 2009 4:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

.....

one game.

You use one game.

You must have forgot the….ah.. it aint worth it.

A-Rod is a Yankee. He’s shown it numerous times. He’s not the only one to suck in the playoffs during his time with the Yanks.

GODZZIIIIIRRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!

by FreeBradshaw on Aug 27, 2009 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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