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Who are the most under and overpaid Yankees?

A very interesting article, ranking every Yankee on whether they've out-played their contracts (and by how much), was written by J. Walter Fulbright.

The top of the list? Robbie Cano, who's making $6 million but has been worth more than $20 million, making his 'Value Over Contract' $14 million. Following him are Brett Gardner (partly because his salary is so low) and Derek Jeter (out-playing a $20 million contract is impressive).

On the tail end are mostly players who've been hurt, like A-Rod, who's been worth $15 million less than what he's paid for. Just ahead of him are Xavier Nady and Damaso Marte.

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Rivera is under preforming?

Really? Is there another Mariano Rivera on this team?

by lololol on Aug 20, 2009 4:04 PM EDT reply actions  

I love the smell of meaningless data in the morning…

Mo is over-valued. And Robbie "Oh no. Not Papelbon!" is the best value on the team?

Gentlemen, I give you MIT.

by rosebud on Aug 21, 2009 1:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wow.

I agree with most of this I guess, but the fact tha MO is where he is says this stat means exactly dogshit.

Do what Jerry Hairston do

by FreeBradshaw on Aug 20, 2009 4:07 PM EDT reply actions  

based on how low Mo is

i’d have to think he’s being compared to all pitchers, not just relievers. since he pitches about 1/3 as many innings, and gets paid more than most starters, it explains how low he is.

he should be compared to other relievers/closers to get a fairer value.

by Travis G on Aug 20, 2009 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

some of the overperformers are impressive

In addition to Jeter, CC and Teixiera are “over-performing” despite high salaries. I agree that Rivera’s inclusion on the under-performers list is questionable, but I wonder if that’s a reflection on how closers are valued generally, rather than how much better than a typical closer Rivera is.

by long time listener on Aug 20, 2009 4:24 PM EDT reply actions  

It must be

because looking at Mo strictly as a closer, relief pitcher, or pitcher in general he has outstanding numbers each way. It must be weighted by the average a reliever or specifically a closer is paid across the ML.

by Jaybat on Aug 20, 2009 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

i dont know

if Mo’s being compared to relievers or all pitchers.

also the fact that he’s the highest paid reliever in the game makes it tougher to out-perform his contract.

by Travis G on Aug 20, 2009 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Most relievers don’t get a multi-million deal as a free agent (if they stick around long enough), let alone at $15M deal.

"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."

by jscape2000 on Aug 20, 2009 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

The shocker is

Cody Ransom near the bottom. I think they’re basically saying that he should be paying the team to have been on the roster at all. I mean, how much could he possibly be making, and yet he’s underperforming by that much??

by waw on Aug 20, 2009 5:35 PM EDT reply actions  

HAHA

So your saying Cody Ransom is more underpaid than MO…… this article is a bunch of bullcrap!!!!

by pedro316 on Aug 20, 2009 6:36 PM EDT reply actions  

really?

I don’t believe that anyone who could think that Mo is overpaid. There’s no other reliever on any other team like him.

by nyydevoted on Aug 21, 2009 12:14 AM EDT reply actions  

A-Rod Most Overpaid...

Really? So A-Rod is not worth $33,000,000/year? Is there a chart like this for Citibank and AIG?

by almonte96b on Aug 21, 2009 7:40 AM EDT reply actions  

dont think so...

Mo overpaid?….garbage…

A-rod overpaid?…have you seen the yanks record since he’s been back in the line up?…first place baby?

A.j. is that low?…you gotta be kidding me…that guys performance against beckett alone in that CRITICAL boston series should earn him enough stripes…

God I just thought about it..we don’t have gardner…nady…and marte has been injured and before that inconsistant…if we get those guys back to themselves……wow….the yanks just f’n rules

by NYYWinsRings26 on Aug 21, 2009 7:45 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Jorge...

Don’t get me wrong, I love Jorge. But the guy has missed about 1/3 of the games this year and is still worth more than the $13.1 million he is getting paid? I concur with Free Bradshaw, “dogshit.”

by bfox esq on Aug 21, 2009 9:23 AM EDT reply actions  

bc his production AS A CATCHER, not just as any old player

is what makes him so valuable. C is a D-1st position, so any offense you get from it is a plus.

by Travis G on Aug 21, 2009 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mo...

Maybe the guy made the comparisson against Mo’s past year performance, in which we see:

In 2009 he has pitched 52 innings and has given up 40 hits, 12 runs (11 earned), 6 hr’s and 8 walks.
In 2008 he pitched 70 2/3 innings and gave up 41 hits, 11 runs (all earned), 4 hr’s and 6 walks.

So in that sense he is less effective than last year (0.67 WHiP in ’08 against a 0.92 WHiP this year, almost 1/3 higher).

But compared against all other closers, Mo wins hands down:

In the AL out of all the closers with at least 20 saves:

Mariano and Fernando Rodney are the only two who have blown only one save;
He has the second best ERA (1.90 against Joe Nathan’s 1.66);
He has the second best WHiP (0.92 against Joe Nathan’s 0.84);

by Mikhel on Aug 23, 2009 1:27 PM EDT reply actions  

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