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In a surprising turn of events, Wang will likely hit the DL with 'shoulder bursitis,' but it won't be Phil Hughes who takes his spot in the rotation (according to Ty Kepner). It won't even be Al Aceves. The most likely candidate appears to be Scranton's Sergio Mitre.

Wang probably won't be on the DL for much more than a month. Mitre has done well in Triple-A Scranton, holding opponents to a 3.26 ERA in 30.1 innings, with 23 strikeouts against only three walks (and a fantastic 2.7 groundouts to every flyout). Of course, Mitre is already a ML veteran, having pitched for the Marlins and Cubs in five seasons (with a 5.36 ERA).

Nothing is official yet, but I've got to say that Hughes deserves to start in Wang's place. He's been nearly flawless in relief, and has been pitching in almost every game that Wang starts.

 

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[Note by Ed Valentine, 07/05/09 10:03 AM EDT:  Be sure to vote in the 'Should Hughes start?' poll in the right column. ]

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I was hoping it would be Mitre who takes Wang’s spot should he have to go to the DL. The bullpen chemistry is great right now, it would be dumb to take a key piece like Hughes or Aceves out.

by Rumplestiltskin02 on Jul 5, 2009 12:13 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

You're nuts

And completely ignorant on how pitching works. Phil has been fantastic out of the pen. His future in the organization is clearly as a starter. He has the stuff. The most delicate part of managing a player like him is in putting him in positions to excel. So you take a guy like Hughes, set him into a MLB pen situation, and randomly start him with no time to stretch out?

There is a reason why random fans are NEVER asked to manage a team. And your suggestion is a perfect example of why. Hughes has spent that last month in the pen. That is the role he is conditioned too. Real life is not MLB The Show where a bullpen reliever can step in and throw 6+ innings.

And more importantly Hughes is more important in the pen than he could be doing 1 or 2 spot turns in the rotation.

by BigBlueNJ on Jul 5, 2009 12:48 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

show me

where i wrote he should pitch 6+ innings. he could clearly go a few if his pitch count is low (and it has been as a reliever).

“And more importantly Hughes is more important in the pen than he could be doing 1 or 2 spot turns in the rotation.”

i see now. you’re one of those people. that explains it.

by Travis G on Jul 5, 2009 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So how long will he last than?

You want to fill in the rotation spot the game before Chamberlain, AKA 5 innings is a good start, and use a guy who is going to burn up the pen?

So when Hughes goes 4 or 5 innings, pitches well because that is what you are expecting, and JG uses Aceves for the long relief who is there to pick up after Joba puts his 4 to 5 in?

It makes far more sense to bring in a guy with MLB experience who is pitching well down at AAA who can give you innings.

Not sure what you mean by one of those people, but I’ll take it as a compliment.

by BigBlueNJ on Jul 5, 2009 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

you criticize

Joba for only going 5, yet do you realize Wang hasn’t gone more than 5.1 ALL YEAR?! Joba has gone at least 6 eight times and Hughes has done it twice.

hughes should be taking over wang’s place for the rest of the year. for as much criticism as the youngsters have taken for being injury prone and inconsistent, it’s Wang who’s been the most injury prone and inconsistent pitcher on the team.

do you actually think 5.1 ip, 4 er is a good start?

“Not sure what you mean by one of those people, but I’ll take it as a compliment.”

then i’ll explain it to you. it means you want better pitchers going fewer innings, which is totally (to use your words) ‘nuts and ignorant.’

by Travis G on Jul 5, 2009 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Along with Joba and Hughes,

I bet CC would pitch well in the 8th inning, maybe we should try him there.
As Yankee fans have learned over the past couple years: 70 relief innings is far more important than 200+ starting innings.
;)

by Leviticus6688 on Jul 5, 2009 1:38 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Let Hughes Start

I agree that giving Mitre the start is a joke. I understand Hughes has to work back up to 90-100 pitches but let him and Aceves split the next couple of starts until Hughes is ready to be a full-fledged starter again. I know the Yankees don’t want to jerk Hughes around but it really sounds like Wang is going to be gone for more than 1 or 2 starts. There is no reason why the Yankees should suffer through multiple starts by Sergio Mitre, a 28-year-old scrub with a 5.36 ERA in over 300 career National League innings, while not 1, but 2 better pitchers are sitting in middle relief.

by Let's Talk About Tex Baby on Jul 5, 2009 1:55 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

How about....

Pedro Martinez???

by pedro316 on Jul 5, 2009 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I miss the good old days

Where pitchers were pitchers. Not starters, not long relievers, not middle inning guys, not lefy specialist, not setup men, not closers. The pussification of these guys saddens me. Hughes or Aceves gives the Yankees the BEST chance of winning, not Mitre. Mitre’s best contribution would be to fill in the pen for either of these two. Aceves AND Hughes have pitched well in the pen and have the arms to go the innings to get the start. These are men, not figure skaters.

by HappyLuckyGoldenDragonNumber1! on Jul 5, 2009 2:00 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Lets Just Injure Hughes

This guy has had injury problems his whole career, now you guys want to throw him into the rotation. Leave him alone right now, he is doing well. Why stretch him out for a couple of starts than send him back to the pen? This aint the old days either and it will never be again, so unless you are watching a Yankees Classic, deal with it.

by YankeesJets on Jul 5, 2009 3:46 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hughes COULD

come in and start, probably on a 75-80 pitch limit.

This guys are ATHLETES. And Phil is a 22 y/o one at that. He CAN THROW on the side is he hasn’t been already in order to get his arm up for a start.

Its really not hard to throw 150 to 200 pitches on the side.

But I don’t think its needed right now until they get further word on Wang. Hughes is NEEDED in the pen. Since they have a guy like Mitre, they could throw him out there if Wang’s injury isn’t gonna take too long.

We’ll just have to see how Mitre does.

by FreeBradshaw on Jul 5, 2009 8:17 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I would

bring up Mitre, start him, let him go as deep as he can (5,6,7 innings) and let Hughes relieve him for the rest of the game or till he hits his pitch limit. Then next time do the same thing, but maybe throw Hughes in to start the 6th. By the next start he should be good for 5 or 6 innings. Then you can send Mitre down and bring up a reliever or move him to the pen.
I think this would be a good system because it would allow the Yankees to stretch hughes back out without killing the pen.

Cano is a Pimp

by yankeechaser on Jul 5, 2009 9:50 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hughes

has been great in the pen, and that is why he is staying there. Right now he is their best late-game option to get to Mo. He will be part of the 2010 rotation, but why mess with what he is doing right now? It’s proving to be a huge plus for the team.

by Ed Valentine on Jul 5, 2009 9:59 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

he has to go back to starting

at some point this year, to enable him to reach his innings cap. why not now with the injury? it seems the perfect time.

and dont be so sure he’s a starter in 2010. what if Pettitte re-signs? what happens to Hughes then?

by Travis G on Jul 5, 2009 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It does seem perfect

especially when you have Coke and Aceves absolutely getting it done in the pen.

Hughes have been great, kinda like that other young pitcher in the pen.

But we all know he’s supposed to be in the rotation. Wang I think has had ample time to get it back to together. I don’t blame it on CMW, I think the Yankees screwed up his rehab to the nth degree.

But it depends on the extent of Wang’s injury. If its just for a few starts, why put Hughes back in there?

I think Wang gets this 3rd chance this season once(if ?) he comes back this season. If he’s still the same, throwing ducks up in the zone, then he goes to the pen (and why not him?)

by FreeBradshaw on Jul 5, 2009 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

according to Girardi

The issue is stretching Hughes or Aceves out. In Wang’s next turn, both of them would only be able to throw 50-60 pitches, and as we saw with Joba last year, it probably takes 2-3 starts before they can throw 100.

Right now, in a tight race, one game out, it probably makes more sense to leave things as they are and bring Mitre up, since it doesn’t seem that Wang will be out more than a month. Now, if it turns out he’s done for the season, that would probably be the time to send Hughes or Aceves down to AAA for two weeks, let them stretch out their arms, so they can fill the #5 spot for the remainder of the season.

by 3460kuri on Jul 5, 2009 11:02 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

actually

this might be the perfect time to stretch him out. yes, in Thursday’s game, he’ll only go maybe 3 ip. but his spot won’t come up against until July 21. that gives him 11 days in which to ‘build up’ to his pitch count.

by Travis G on Jul 5, 2009 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cano....

No one is discussing Robinson Cano’s blunder today that almost cost the Yankees the game….. bunting on a 3-0 count. Clearly Girardi was upset and Tex was puzzled. It’s either a case of miscommunication or some player just don’t respect Girardi. If I remember a couple weeks ago Melky bunted against when Joe called it off twice and Melky and Cano are close friends on the team. Any opionions???

by pedro316 on Jul 5, 2009 11:44 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

...

Well he was dropped to 7th in the batting order even with ARod taking a day off, that answers my question. Girardi must be kind of upset at him…..

by pedro316 on Jul 5, 2009 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

that's in the game recap

right below this thread.

by Travis G on Jul 5, 2009 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

pedro316

get over yourself!

by fob22 on Jul 5, 2009 2:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Joba Chamberlain....

shouldn’t be starting!!!

by pedro316 on Jul 5, 2009 2:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Who should !!!?????

Hughes? Cuz he goes 9IP, 9K, and 1 ER?

No, Joba = rookie starter. Let him work through it. Your Red Sux are losing too.

by FreeBradshaw on Jul 5, 2009 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

My Red Sox??? Haha Not in a million years.

by pedro316 on Jul 5, 2009 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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