Around the Yankee Universe: Picking on the Red Sox
Considering the way things have gone the past few seasons, and the arrogance of Red Sox fans we have had to put up with since 2004, I can never pass up an opportunity to have fun at the expense of Boston fans.
That said, I have to begin today's look Around the Yankee Universe with this little ditty from Ryan Parker.
- No one knows for sure what will happen with Roy Halladay today. The National Post knows where it does not want Halladay to end up, though.
The Toronto Blue Jays cannot trade Roy Halladay to the Red Sox, or to the Yankees. They just can't.
That doesn't mean they won't, though. Sure, it's a given that division rivals would have to pay a premium. Yahoo! reported that the Red Sox had offered pitcher Clay Bucholz, along with their choice of reliever Justin Masterson, Triple-A pitcher Michael Bowden, or Double-A first baseman Lars Anderson and lesser prospects. That's a tempting package; Bucholz has a no-hitter on his resume, and Anderson was recently rated by Baseball America as a top-50 prospect in the minors.
But it just can't happen. Trading Roy Halladay to one of the twin beasts of the American League East — and to a slightly lesser extent, to the third beast in Tampa Bay — would be such a flagrant gesture of surrender that Jays fans might just give up hope entirely. It would be a crushing blow not just to lose Halladay, but to have him come back for some of those 18 games per year in which you get your head beaten in by the rich, powerful boys on the block.
New York would have a top three of Halladay, C.C. Sabathia and former Jay A.J. Burnett; Boston would go Halladay, Josh Beckett and Jon Lester. And he would keep coming back, throwing his heart out against the team that used to own his heart, year after year after year.
- With the non-waiver trade deadline looming tonight, WFAN's Sweeny Murti says expect the unexpected.
But know this…George Steinbrenner is not running the Yankees anymore. If he were, Roy Halladay would have been a Yankee before the second half began. Hank Steinbrenner may have the impetuous gene, but he is now only visible via a fake (but very funny) Twitter account. Hal Steinbrenner is the man in charge and while he shares some attributes with The Boss, he doesn't seem to share the same obsessive desire to win at all costs....
So think smaller, folks. Think Jarrod Washburn for the rotation or think Scott Downs for the bullpen. Whatever you think, realize that this team is already really good. And realize that hitting July 31st is kind of like hitting the sign on the highway that tells you your exit is five miles away…there's still time to get where you're supposed to be. Deals will be made after that deadline and we'll play this game again at the end of August to beat the postseason roster eligibility rule.
And remember -- don't expect Roy Halladay. But don't be surprised if he shows up.
Stay tuned. Today promises to be a wild, roller-coaster of a day. Even if nothing ends up happening wth the Yankees. Remember, check in with MLB Daily Dish to keep up with the latest happenings.
- One Massachusetts newspaper says the Red Sox might do better if they were more like ... gasp! ... the Yankees.
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Man was it great to come into work today and see the look on everyones face PRICELESS..( I moved from NYC to Lowell, Mass a few years back) almost as good as when the Giants Won That Superbowl.. now THAT day I will never forget it was like somebody died, the way they reacted ..hehehhe
by Yankz09 on Jul 31, 2009 8:16 AM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
I think the Sux are more into trading for Gonzo and Bell from the Padres
by Yankz09 on Jul 31, 2009 8:25 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think they get them
I think they’ll trade Bucholz, Bowden and Lars Anderson, but if the Padres are smart they will ask for Casey Kelly too, who may or may not be the heir to King of Middle Earth, going by what Red Sox media/fans think of him.
by FreeBradshaw on Jul 31, 2009 8:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Ryan parker things are hilarious
this one tops em all tho.
This is getting played, and loudly I might add, in front of a group of Red Sox (and NE sports fans).
They all love hockey, so I think the Bruins part is gonna piss em off (that was the best part IMO tho)
by FreeBradshaw on Jul 31, 2009 8:30 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Good for you
Milk it for all it’s worth.
by Ed Valentine on Jul 31, 2009 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really hoping the Rangers can put something together for Halladay.
If only so that they have a shot at knocking the Angels into the Wild Card race or (even better) out of the postseason.
by dzawaki on Jul 31, 2009 8:56 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Funny
That was a very funny song, even though I am a Red Sox fan it was creative and humorous. But lets be honest you are just jealous that we won because it wasn’t like you didn’t have steroid players on your team at that time like A-Rod and Giambi.
by Bosox 2018 on Jul 31, 2009 8:56 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yea but
At least A-Rod didn’t use them in NY (at least I hope but there is no evidence he did)
by nyyrocks29 on Jul 31, 2009 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
All in fun
You guys have had your fun at our expense. Now, it’s turn for a little payback.
by Ed Valentine on Jul 31, 2009 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes
indeed you did. The blanket statement “the yankees are all juicers” from the bloggers into goading. And now yesterday I heard “ok so that’s 2. The list of yankees is at least 10 players long.” As in ‘yeah but you cheated MORE.’
by Jaybat on Jul 31, 2009 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree, bash away
When Red Sox posters like Dirty Water on Bugsandcranks back on Feb 12 post a link to 1996 Yankee roster and tells readers to follow the Yankees through 2008 to find “the majority of abusing players therein”, that’s when I say let the counter-bashing begin. It’s payback time:
by coops2001 on Jul 31, 2009 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh and one more thing...
I don’t want to ever hear the words “choke” and “2004” used together in the same sentence EVER AGAIN. IT’S OVER. Okay, now I’m done!
by coops2001 on Jul 31, 2009 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
C'mon. Coops!
Let it all out now. Let us know how you feel, my friend. Stop holding it in.
by Ed Valentine on Jul 31, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
At least ....
.. I’m not quoting Jane Austen:
http://www.bugsandcranks.com/davidchalk/baseball/tgit177dref-the-top-177-devil-rays-ever-60-57/
BTW, Chalk’s down to 50 on his never ending list of top 177 Rays. Also, since you’ve left, he is by far the biggest poster of Yankee related comments on B&C. My belief is that deep down Chalk is a conflicted closet Yankee fan with a tattoo of Steve Balboni in a place we’d rather not know about…..
by coops2001 on Jul 31, 2009 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chalk
He e-mails me once in a while looking to stir stuff up. I pretty much ignore him. And I pretty much ignore B&C. IMHO it’s changed from a fun site to a whiny, bitter place.
by Ed Valentine on Jul 31, 2009 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tobin sometimes has some interesting Sox related articles
and Townsend’s tracking Yankee Stadium HR’s vs Coors 1999 which is entertaining. But you really aren’t missing anything.
One thing is for sure – two years ago I would have said Manny/Ortiz are the best 3/4 hitters since Ruth/Gehrig, which I have since revoked. Maybe now I’ll go with McCovey/Mays instead.
by coops2001 on Jul 31, 2009 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
exactly
and the Padres would be dumb to not ask for him in a ADGonz trade.
by FreeBradshaw on Jul 31, 2009 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Andy Pettitte.....
did he hurt himself last night?? On That weak grounder by Thome he fell on his ass and his right leg bent in a not so good position. I haven’t seen or heard anything so I’m assuming he is ok???
by pedro316 on Jul 31, 2009 9:02 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
you see the score and the 8 K's?
Andy was quite alright after tat.
by FreeBradshaw on Jul 31, 2009 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well ya....
but it happend late in the game. Pitchers tend to hide injuires. I was just asking to see if anyone heard anything, even if it is minor.
by pedro316 on Jul 31, 2009 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ryan Parkers Songs
Are hilarious! This is the best one of all!
by nyyrocks29 on Jul 31, 2009 9:08 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I love Parker
Sometimes his voice can get annoying, but he’s incredibly creative.
by Ed Valentine on Jul 31, 2009 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
As a Yankees and Steelers fan...
That song is that much sweeter. It’s about time Papi was exposed for what he is. Can’t say I am at all surprised, I’ve been saying this for a long long time. Thoughts: Justified.
by NYSteelersFan4 on Jul 31, 2009 10:30 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The question I have about the whole affair
Didn’t A-Rod say he was told by the players association in 2003 that he had failed a drug test? So I am assuming that Ortiz was also told in 2003 that he had failed as well. I hope that helps him on his “Big Papi’s Fact Finding Mission”. Maybe he can help OJ find who killed Nicole along the way.
by HappyLuckyGoldenDragonNumber1! on Jul 31, 2009 10:34 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I believe they were notified when they tested positive in 2003. I’m guessing since it wasn’t suppose to be let out Arod plus others denied denied denied and now that its being let out they look stupid and that’s why BIG JUICER. Is “gonna get to the bottom of this and find out what’s going on”
by Yankz09 on Jul 31, 2009 10:45 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
can you blame him?
The idea that these anonymous positive tests get out is the bigger problem to me.
Yes these guys are wrong and now that they are identified we can all point fingers and yell at them.
But if they told you your anonymous test was positive, why exactly would you come out and spill the beans on it?
by FreeBradshaw on Jul 31, 2009 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yup
I can blame em. You tested positive in 2003. You were informed by the PA that you tested positive to the anonymous test. So therefore everyone who tested positive who is on that list of 104 KNOWS they are on that list. Considering at this point the biggest name on that list, A-Rod, confirmed he tested positive and came clean (I guess) about what he took and his supposed time lines, you would have to be a moron to try and play the ignorant card. If Papi has half a brain he needs to just spill the beans. Every reporter under the sun is gonna be digging into the story so its better to come out of his mouth than the media. A-Rod’s handlers were smart enough to realize that they couldn’t put the genie back in the bottle so it was better to do some damage control than to mimic Clemens.
by HappyLuckyGoldenDragonNumber1! on Jul 31, 2009 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A-Rod came clean
but he needed some time too.
What Im saying you can’t blame him for is in 2003 when he more than likely heard about it, why would anyone come out in 2003 and tell everyone? It was anonymous, the press and the world didn’t know about it, so can you blame him THEN for not coming out and spilling the beans on something no one was supposed to know about?
And we’ll see how the fat man handles it. The news only dropped yesterday, and considering how he already threw himself under the bus with those ST comments on a year ban, give him some time to try and explain himself.
Oritz and the Red Sox cheated themselves to their championships, but Ortiz is genuinely a good guy. Even if he plays for Boston, let him try and explain himself. I don;t think he’s gonna hide anything.
by FreeBradshaw on Jul 31, 2009 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
by Yankz09 on Jul 31, 2009 10:49 AM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
they asked for Montero now?
I think Washburn needs to stay an M cuz these bastards are asking for the world for an above average pitcher.
by FreeBradshaw on Jul 31, 2009 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Poker Game
Of course the M’s are going to ask for the world. They are going to try and get as much as they can. Why not ask? I would. Maybe the opposing GM will actually bite and give up more than he should. You always negotiate by aiming high.
by Ed Valentine on Jul 31, 2009 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess the Indians
missed that memo
by HappyLuckyGoldenDragonNumber1! on Jul 31, 2009 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And for more fun...
Deadspin.com has a fine column here on the Ortiz situation:
http://deadspin.com/5327199/in-which-we-drink-in-the-hilarious-naivete-of-red-sox-nation
by mrljdavid on Jul 31, 2009 1:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Awesome
If a bit on the … umm … crass side. But, right to the point.
by Ed Valentine on Jul 31, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Funny song
And what a window it was put together in!!! The Bruins fans they showed looked like they were at a funeral. But I agree Ed, they’ve been having all the fun this decade,time for ours. Now until Nov 4th and beyond!!
by ReggieARodJeter on Jul 31, 2009 3:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Funny
Im a Marlins fan, and I laughed my @$$ off, because I hate the Pats and it was funny. But.. what I want to know is people want to label the sox cheaters…ok, fine. But lets call a spade a spade- Yanks did too(How many of their players have been found to be juicing? More than the Sox by my count, so far…) Plus, with all their lavish spending, they can’t even buy a Series anymore. Haven’t even been there since the Marlins beat them.(God that was awesome, especially in your so-called “cathedral”!!!
by coconuts622 on Jul 31, 2009 6:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The point really is
that after hearing virtually non-stop from Sox fans about “Aroid”, “Clemroids”, and ""Juicin’" Giambi", and that ’98 to ’00 is “tainted”, the shoe is now on the other foot for Sox fans. As an example, see the link above where a Red Sox fan back in Feb-09 insinutated that most of the abusers were Yankees.
Absolutley not saying the Yankees are better (or worse), as it is likely that many cheated. Just saying to RSN that payback’s a b***h and STFU. I don’t think Ortiz is a bad guy. Just tired of hearing it from his fans.
by coops2001 on Jul 31, 2009 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ortiz and Manny
Ortiz and Manny were two HUGE components of the 2004 and 2007 Red Sox teams. Ortiz had 2 walk off hits, one a home run, against the Yankees. Red Sox fans have been giving us so much crap about how all their titles were “clean” and every title in the late ‘90s were tainted. Well, in the late ’90s, the biggest players on those teams, which were Jeter, Rivera, Posada, Pettitte, Tino, O’neil, Bernie, weren’t on steroids. Ours were bench players and bullpen pitchers, and we could most likely have won the series without those players (ex. Canseco). In 2004 and 2007, they would never have won without the heart of their order, who both cheated. And plus, in 2004, the Yankees really didn’t have a bunch of steroid users anymore. I don’t know if Sheffield was ever proven, but Giambi was off the playoff roster, and A-Rod was off the steroids. Clemens and Pettitte were gone. So, the point was, Boston would never win without those players.
by nyyrocks29 on Aug 1, 2009 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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