OK time for McGuire to go into the Hall

by Cbeck3 on Jul 30, 2009 5:56 PM EDT Comment 8 comments

Logic: For a period of time baseall decided to look the other way and let people cheat. So many people cheated that it is probable that a team could not win without cheaters. Pitchers cheated, hitters cheated. A whole era was marked.

There are a number of people of whom we can say, "He took PEDs". But of whom can we say, "He was clean!"? I'd claim that ,in this era, no one.

Sad, sad, sad.

I'd been saying that Mitchel covered up for the RS. Now I'm proven right and I regret it.

Amp up the testing! Amp up the punishments!

Let the past sleep.

Clean up the future. Look forward.

bah, humbug.

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I've said it a million times

in real life tho, no the I-Net:)

Every single one of these guys should be in the Hall. Whatever you have to do when they are int here to acknowledge what type of Roid they took, do it. But the chemical structure below their name if you have too.

I just seriously doubt that any moron who takes steroids can hit 600+ HR. Guys like Barry Bonds would have been in the Hall regardless of what they did to themselves.

McGwire was a freak show. The dude was absolutely hughe. But I highly doubt you can find any roid freak that big that can hit like Big Mac could.

by FreeBradshaw on Jul 30, 2009 6:02 PM EDT reply actions

disagree

no way Sammy Sosa belongs in the Hall of Fame. he owes his entire career to PEDs. same goes for guys like Luis Gonzalez and David Ortiz. even though i doubt McGwire ever sniffs Cooperstown, i cut him some more slack because he hit 49 homers before the start of the era in ’87.

i think there’s a difference between guys like Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens, who would’ve been in the Hall regardless (not defending them, just saying), and guys like Sosa, Ortiz, and Gonzalez.

by SBakerTheTouchdownMaker on Jul 31, 2009 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions

I'd start voting

deserving older players like Blyleven and maybe Guidry before I’d vote in McGwire, Sosa, etc. Maybe the steroids era provides a chance to vote in players that really deserve it. Nice to see Gordan voted in – truly a 2B man ahead of his time

by coops2001 on Aug 1, 2009 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions

Yes I agree

100 percent. I couldn’t go pick up a bat and some HGH and smash 70 homers in a season, no way. Face it, if you weren’t using steroids in that era, you were behind the game. No matter how strong you are, pitch recognition needs to be there, same with a good swing.Yeah, Bonds took some roids, but I highly doubt anyone will ever catch up to him. So put him in the hall, because which allstar (besides Griffey) wasn’t on some ped’s at the time?

9=8

by El Rayhawk on Aug 1, 2009 1:13 AM EDT up reply actions

I'm now of the same mind

So many people are polluted in this era it doesn’t make sense anymore to keep people out. On the other hand the Hall is not exactly full of only reputable types even now, I’m over the purity thing.

by Greenfuzz on Jul 30, 2009 9:00 PM EDT reply actions

Really

Because Mantle had his late night partying and cobb was a d to the media, which was what players did in that era. Also, bronson arroyo said he didn’t even know whether or not he used steroids because around that time, you just took whatever.

9=8

by El Rayhawk on Aug 1, 2009 1:16 AM EDT up reply actions

I don't see it ever stopping

unless everyone is outed. But Im not sure what you could do to please the purists once you let these guys in.

by ReggieARodJeter on Jul 31, 2009 4:17 PM EDT reply actions

I think steroid players should get in the hall of fame. No matter how much players get ridiculed for saying it, steroids were the culture of the era. It’s silly to vote guys in who we all know juiced but were never officially outed, i.e. Mike Piazza, and keep other guys out because they happened to get caught. I guarantee there are already players in the HOF who dabbled in steroids.

That being said though since steroids bumped up the numbers from the late 90’s/early 2000’s you have to hold these players to a higher standard. Mark McGwire had 7 unreal years, but for the rest of his career he was either injured or bad. Was McGwire more dominant in relation to his era than say Don Mattingly was to his? I don’t think so, so imo by steroid era standards, Mark McGwire’s not a hall of famer.

by Let's Talk About Tex Baby on Jul 31, 2009 11:41 PM EDT reply actions