Sherman on target in Yankee trade analysis
I am hardly a fan of Joel Sherman, or the New York Post. I have to give credit where it's due, though, because today Sherman has absolutely nailed the New York Yankees' situation as the trade deadline approaches.
The Yanks believe that economic reasons will move more pitchers through waivers than ever before so that August trades are more probable. But I doubt that would include a quality arm. As of this moment, the Yanks are showing no inclination to top feed by pursuing Roy Halladay or Cliff Lee. They simply remain an organization that does not believe it should give up both top prospects and a huge salary within one trade. I don't think Jarrod Washburn will get through waivers, and he actually might be traded before Friday's deadline anyway. That could have the Yanks picking through unappetizing possibilities like a reunion with Sidney Ponson. Don't laugh, if the Mets ever do release Tim Redding, the Yanks would probably try to stash him at Triple-A. GM Brian Cashman has a belief that when you have a shortage you try to throw as much dubious material at the wall and hope that one person from that collection jumps out to help.
But I do think the Yanks have to be tempted to find some level of protection. That is why I think you see them connected with good arm/bad result Ian Snell of the Pirates, who could be stashed at Triple-A until/if needed. I think that is why they are going to watch Oakland's Justin Duchscherer throw to see if he is over injury problems. It is why they probably think about pitchers such as Toronto's Brian Tallet or Philadelphia's Chan Ho Park, who can be long men in the pen and around in case emergency starts are needed. I am sure they also are thinking if they could actually get someone such as San Diego's Heath Bell to pitch the eighth inning as a way to make removing Hughes from the pen more tolerable.
I just think the Yanks have this vulnerability that could bite them if, say, Chamberlain's shoulder bothers him again or Pettitte's elbow or Burnett remembers that he is supposed to be the untrustworthy A.J. Burnett or the experiment with Mitre is a failure.
The Yankees have to add some depth to the pitching staff. The injuries to Wang and Ian Kennedy, and the use of Alfredo Aceves and Phil Hughes in the bullpen, leave them dangerously thin in the starting rotation.
Think about this. If Chamberlain hits his innings limit and the Yankees choose to protect him rather than push him, who is the fourth playoff starter? Assuming, of course, that the Yankees get there.
It sure can't be Sergio Mitre. And it can't be Aceves, unless the Yankees fortify the bullpen so that they feel comfortable moving him into the rotation.
So, yes, the Yankees really could use a quality arm to fortify a pitching staff that simply can't take many more hits.
[UPDATE: Here is a little tidbit from Pete Abe. The Yankees appear to be focusing in on relievers as the trade deadline approaches. By beefing up the bullpen, this would enable them to transition Alfredo Aceves to the rotation if the need arises.
Given that Sergio Mitre has allowed 17 hits over 10.2 innings, there’s a good chance that need will arise. Names that have come up: Scott Downs, Heath Bell and John Grabow, The Yankees are not involved in the Roy Halladay chase. But, of course, that could change.]
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Ponson
I will literally murder Brian Cashman if he signs Sidney Ponson. I will lay in wait for him and commit the crime of pre-meditated murder.
by long time listener on Jul 27, 2009 1:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'll help
But seriously, I think they just be looking at one of Scott Downs, John Grabow, or if necessary Matt Capps. (I only say if necessary because he’d cost more.) A guy like that to slip in the rotation gives us another set up man to go with Hughes. If Bruney can somehow find his control again and regain his presence he had at the beginning of the year, it’d allow Aceves to become the 5th starter. The rumors of Huston Street that swirled earlier this year are just about as the Rockies are still in the wild card hunt. To me, Downs is the best option (and more likely to be traded than Halladay) and Grabow isn’t too far behind, especially since Pittsburgh is kind of like our AAA team these days.
by Leviticus6688 on Jul 27, 2009 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
with the Post man, Yankees need another arm or 2. I think Marte coming back will tell what exactly they need.
But a guy like Snell or Duchsherer couldn’t hurt, especially the later (I want to call him Douche, but if he’s a future Yank I’ll refrain….he was a douche when he ran through the Yanks tho…). I don’t want to deal with Beane tho, he’ll hypnotize Cashman to trade Montero for him, so that’s hopefully off.
I still like the idea of getting someone for the pen, cuz in the end we could see Joba go back to where the cretins want him and that could mean the Yanks need 2 starters. Aceves and Hughes could be that option and that’s where the Yanks will need a reliever or 3.
by FreeBradshaw on Jul 27, 2009 1:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
interesting
The situation with Hughes and Joba is interesting. Joba can lock down the 8th but will Hughes be valuable as a starter. Why cant they start splitting games with Hughes and Joba like they did with Wang. That being said we do need another arm, whether its a starter or long relief. Aceves could be a huge liability in the post season if we continue to depend on him.
by On The Yanks of the Rivera on Jul 27, 2009 1:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'd rather get help in the pen
If and when Joba hits his innings limit, Joba will still be penciled in as the #4 starter if the Yankees make the playoffs. Phil Hughes will finish 2009 in the pen unless the Yankees pick up a suitible replacement for him in the pen, However even if we do get another reliever i just don’t know if they would be as effective as Hughes to move him out. Hughes has solidified the pen and he is looking good with his 97+ fastball there. With Hughes in the pen….We can go all the way to the promise land.
by yankee1977 on Jul 27, 2009 2:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The Game 4 starter has been the elephant in the room
Everyone knows they need someone to make that start, and nobody has the first clue who it’s going to be.
But I don’t know why Ian Snell’s name always comes up. He may have a good arm, but he’s F’ing terrible. That “good arm/bad result” thing isn’t because of the Pirates, it’s because his career WHIP is 1.53. His SO/9 has declined in each of the last 4 seasons, and he’s walking 4.9 per 9 innings over the last two.
I have no idea how acquiring a bad pitcher would help the situation.
by New York Sports Jerk on Jul 27, 2009 2:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
AJ, CC, Joba, Pettitte.
Knock on wood.
"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."
by jscape2000 on Jul 27, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just about every contender has a hole in the 4th spot. It doesn’t mean we should just stand pat, but it doesn’t mean we should panic, either.
I still think the two best starting pitchers (not named Halladay or Lee) that are available to the Yankees are on the roster and sitting in the bullpen right now – Al Aceves and Phil Hughes.
by 3460kuri on Jul 27, 2009 2:43 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
+1
"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."
by jscape2000 on Jul 27, 2009 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree that Acevas and Hughes are the best #5 starters available. if we could get Bell or the equivalent to shore up the late innings I would be happy. Cashman should stick to his plan.
by Jtmc on Jul 27, 2009 2:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Forget Hughes
Yankees have made it clear he is staying where he is for the rest of the season. I would, however, love to see Aceves in the rotation. He is better than Mitre, and I would have faith in him in a Game 4 type situation. If the Yanks feel good enough about their bullpen I think you will see that move at some point.
by Ed Valentine on Jul 27, 2009 3:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Why Snell?
Good arm/bad result why would that possibly be a good idea. If they are going to hit up the Pirates at least snag Zach Duke and get a major league ready arm. I wouldn’t mind seeing Snell or Redding (hey we’re from the same home town) in AAA working their way towards injury reserve duty, but they need an arm that can go into the rotation right now.
by Mr. h on Jul 27, 2009 3:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I like Snell
cuz I think he’ll be better than Mitre has been in 2 starts. Getting him out of Pittsburgh could be the sort of change of scenery he needs (or for any player for that matter.) He’s young still, tho not a prospect so Id think he just wants to settle into a role on a team.
by FreeBradshaw on Jul 27, 2009 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the dearth of starting pitching
AAAH haaa haa…in total agreement with listener re: the “pontoon”, I won’t participate but would be willing to provide an alibi if Cashman is feckless enough to do the unthinkable. The question ultimately…CC, Burnett, Chamberlain, and Pettitte is that the four in post season that wins it? As for the sixty games between now and then, NY isn’t alone with a questionable 5th starter…ask the pukes in beantown
by fourmatsui on Jul 27, 2009 5:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Joba
Will Joba start in the post season and will he go the rest of the season as the starter? They have made statements about his innings count and they seem to be strict with this. If they plan on using him as 4th starter in the post season then they will have to put him in the bullpen sometime next month.
by On The Yanks of the Rivera on Jul 27, 2009 9:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Keep In Mind...
Last season we didn’t think we were gonna get TEX. Almost a sure shot for Boston. Then Yanks swoop in and grab him. So you never know whats going to happen.
We saw first hand how the powers that be work under the radar. So don’t get your hopes up…. but don’t rule out anyone either
by Gangsta Yanksta on Jul 27, 2009 10:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Arroyo?
sounds like Game 4 will be Arroyo.
by holmes610 on Jul 28, 2009 8:53 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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