6-3 win over the A's shows why anti-fans can stop laughing at the Yanks’ pitching
I guess the recession affects even the richest team in baseball, since everything the Yankees have done since the ASB has been a monument to economical. If someone showed me the box scores for the last 7 games and told me they were from a Yankee homestand which included 2 of the worst teams in the league, I'd ask them if they were getting their sports info from Chris Berman.
And then if I was told that in this 7-game span, the Yankees' success was the handiwork of their pitchers who kept their opponents to an average of 2 runs a game, I'd ask if they were talking to Joe Morgan. I don't even know what I'd say if they concluded this exercise with the fact the Homerun Hedoism stigma of the stadium would be met with less than 10 long balls.
In their comeback win against the A's, the Yankees continued to demonstrate they're doing their part to cut back on excess wherever they can: after a wet delay that pushed the game til 10PM (west coast-esque start time made me forget they were home and not Oakland's Coliseum), the Yankees zipped through the game in under 3 hours, holding the A's to 3 runs over 9 hits.
CC Sabathia has gotten into the habit of pulling the Joba Rule, which now states he can't settle in until he's got at least 2 awkward/sloppy innings under his 8-foott long belt. I received the now routine "Fatso struggling" text after he allowed Nomar Garciaparra to score off Jack Cust's sac fly, followed by Bobby Crosby's RBI single. Matt Holliday doubled and scored to make it 3-0.
It wasn't a very auspicious start, and I think CC's consistent trouble with the A's may rank alongside Cody Ransom's presence as one of the most inexplicable Yankee mysteries.
Vin Mazzaro looked as though he was going to exploit the hell out of the Yankees' incurable fear of new pitchers, retiring the first 6 batters he faced, 4 on strikeouts. It wasn't until the 4th inning that Oakland passed over the conch shell to the Yanks, where a 2-run bomb from Mark Teixeira opened up the floodgates. Alex Rodriguez walked, stole a base (!), and then was brought home with Jorge Posada's RBI double. Eric Hinske's RBI single put the Yanks on top.
(PS, I'm pretty sure the only 2 types of at-bats Posada knows about are swinging strikeouts and well-timed RBI doubles, most of which occur by a blooper than dunks in just beyond the infield.)
The 5th inning was just as brutal for Vin, who probably won't be comforted tonight by his 7Ks. Eh, he's from Jersey, his hometown buddies are probably happy at least. And as painful as stuffing the bases may have been for Vin, that's how refreshing it was for the few remaining fans at the game.
Teixeira's double brought in Derek Jeter and advanced Johnny Damon to third, who had reached on an infield single. Posada brought in Damon, and then the 4th/5th inning all-you-can-eat run buffet shut down, and the Yankees' bats went into a food coma.
The score would stay that way through the end, as Phil Hughes closed out the game with hitless 8th and 9th innings. His first career save, and undoubtedly an invigorating, comforting suggestion of the Yankees' future Mo substitute. Neither Yankee pitcher let up a single walk tonight. \
The Yankees have now won 7 in a row, The score was 2-1 three of those times, 6-4 twice, and I will admit that part of me wanted to see the A's drive home another run just for the symmetry of it all.
Tomorrow Joba Chamberlain (5-2, 4.05) tries to keep his 1-game winning streak alive, when the Yankees face Brett Anderson (5-7, 4.25). Our boy can't rely on the run support from his team anymore. He'll have to rely on the defense behind him, so my advice to Joba -- if he wants to maintain his team's trend of otherwordly fielding performance--is that he needs to stop taking his sweet time between pitches and also stop getting through innings with the speed of a parade float.
Ask any New Yorker -- there are few things we hate more than slow walkers.
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great to see Hughes
get his first save, and a 2-inning one to boot. are the Yanks stretching him out to take the #5 spot, now that Wang is almost certainly done for the year?
the west coast games, (real or fake)...
…kill me, time-wise. But thank you!! I got a late jump on it. I think I was half expecting more of the game to come on because I subconsciously associate Hughes with the 8th inning and after he closed out the 9th, it never registered that it was over.
Shark as tack, this one. I blame it on Rickey Henderson weekend.
by CrazyYankeeChick on Jul 24, 2009 3:12 AM EDT up reply actions
IMO taking Hughes out of the pen is a bad idea right now. Removing him from the bullpen weakens it .. unless they pick up a guy like streets which I doubt cause I believe the rockies are contending right now with the wild card spot.. I believe Cashman will make a trade for a middle-back rotation kinda guy
by Yankz09 on Jul 24, 2009 4:27 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
hughes as a starter???
I don’t think that is a good idea…why would the yankees take something so successfully dominant and try to change it, AGAIN!!!?!
cuz we can find guys like Aceves in
a rice field in Mexico to pitch the 8th inning.
by FreeBradshaw on Jul 24, 2009 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Joba's pace
Joba could learn something from Buehrle yesterday … he worked very quickly and never even left the rubber.
BTW CYC, great stuff. I’ve really been enjoying your writing.
always thought that
in his brief time as a starter, when Joba speeds up his pitches do the same. It could be as simple as that too.
by FreeBradshaw on Jul 24, 2009 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I dont think TPTB would have the audacity
to play musical pitchers again, especialy during this uncharateristically effective pittching, of which Hughes in the 8th is basically the linchpin. I swear to God I’ll kill someone. I wouldnt be surprised. The article in yesterdays daily news was kinda shady to me, the stuff about cashman seeing how they’re getting close to Joba’s alloted season IP count and how they may have to cut back on a lot of innings…
by CrazyYankeeChick on Jul 24, 2009 9:07 AM EDT reply actions
Hughes and Joba
I was wondering how long it was going to take someone to come up with the argument of keeping Hughes in the pen to be Mo’s successor. He does look pretty dominant there, at least right now. I would love to hear the front office come out and say definitively what their plan for Hughes and Joba are going to be. I guess I am going to be waiting for a while.
Now with the report of Joba reaching his alloted innings limit? We are just past the half-way part of the season and he hasn’t exactly been averaging alot. What is this mysterious plan Cashman has? What the heck was the plan at the beginning of the season; have him be a starter 2/3 of the season then put him on the shelf until 2010?
So Cashman is saying that there is this mysterious, hard fast number that was decided on in the beginning of the season. And it’s so immoveable that they may have to change his pitching role. If a number is that set in stone, wouldn’t he have done a little bit more planning instead of acting like he’s seeing his bar tab at 3AM after buying Jager shots for his dozen new best friends all night?
It doesn’t make sense, especially since it’s not as if Joba has been exceeding any kind of pitching limits when more often than not, the opponents’ bats are dictating the point in the game when he’s chased, not a magic IP watermark. Yesterday everyone’s mum on exactly what this number might be, today it’s 140. but Joba’s outing’s have ranged from 0.2 IP to 8, with an average of 5.2 IP per game. Isn’t that roughly what the plan was for him? So unless they were planning on a season of Joba going 3 IP per game, how could, at midseason, everyone start wringing their hands because they binge-pitched.
It’s convenient, though. Because if they move Joba to the pen, they’re only doing it because of a number they’re diligently sticking to, and not because they had an err in judgement making him a starter. And even better, his most recent brilliant outing clouds any suspicion.
And if Joba is hurt, (which I still maintain he is), this is the way to minimize the exacerbations, by drastically cutting down his pitch count, under the guise of “just following the rules.” And they manage this proverbial injury without anyone being the wiser. Because if people DID know, I’d imagine the first incensed accusation scripting the mob mentality would be, “He’s hurt because they pushed his arm too far! The management ruined Joba! CASHMAN SUCKS! YOU KILLED HIM! YOU KILLED JOBA!”
by CrazyYankeeChick on Jul 24, 2009 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions
My fear is that they do move Joba to the pen, and he cannot match his success from earlier in his career. Not that it’s likely in any event that he could match that magical ’07 success.
Then, if they do that, they bring Hughes back into the rotation, and he breaks down, or at least, underwhelms us, the demanding fans.
This is my nightmare scenario, brought to you by the infinite wisdom of TPTB.
Oh, and a comment on your rookie pitcher lamentation
They said on YES last night that the Yankees actually have the 2nd best record in MLB against rookie pitchers – I think it’s 18-7 with last night’s win. Definitely doesn’t feel like that, but that’s statistics for you, I guess…
REALLY?
It really seems that they get blanked by them every time. Hm. this is like when I heard a couple of years ago that Arod led the league in game winning RBIs, when it seemed he was actually living up to his reputation of only hitting when they’re up by 10. But i wasn’t about to question the best statistic defense to haters I’d heard all year.
I guess it makes sense though, cuz even if they are struggling against rookies, look at their lineup. I’d still bet on the Yankees over Baltimore if they’re both batting against rookies..I wonder what the stats are on the BA differential, as opposed to winning %?
by CrazyYankeeChick on Jul 24, 2009 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions

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