The trade deadline is nine days away
by Travis G on Jul 22, 2009 7:30 PM EDT
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What moves will Brian Cashman make before then? What areas of the team are most in need of improvement? Which prospects are considered 'touchable'?
To start, I think we can all agree the offense is fine. The Yankees lead the league in runs scored (5.51/game) and OPS+ (116). Every single position is producing at an above average rate, save for centerfield (where production is only slightly below average at 97 OPS+). The bench is pretty solid overall - Hinske and Molina are decent backups, but Ransom is just... ugh.
Anyway, it seems that pitching is the biggest need. I say 'need', but 'want' may be more apt. The pitching staff has an ERA+ a hair below average, but y'all must remember that a not insignificant effect on that was the atrocious April from Chien Ming-Wang. The team ERA stands at 4.41. If you remove Wang's first three starts, the team ERA drops to 4.19, good for fifth in the AL.
With Wang's recent setback (who knows if he'll come back this year), Sergio Mitre has become the fifth starter. If the Yanks want to keep Hughes and Aceves in the pen, they could use a better #5, but who's available?
The cream of the crop:
Roy Halladay of course, but he looks like less of an option every day: 32 years old, 132 ip, 2.75 FIP ERA, 113 K, 1.07 WHIP, signed through 2010.
Cliff Lee has been great for Cleveland, and is younger than Halladay: 30 years old, 145 ip, 3.26 FIP, 103 K, 1.32 WHIP, signed through 2010.
The problem is that these guys would require a lot in terms of prospects. We're talking about 1-2 of Hughes, Joba, Jesus and Jackson (plus other 'fringier' prospects).
Just below the upper tier is Jarrod Washburn: 34 years old, 119 ip, 3.77 FIP, 75 K, 1.09 WHIP, FA after the year. He would require considerably less because he's just not as good a pitcher, is older, and will hit the FA market after the season.
But I'm more of the mind of acquiring a good reliever, which would cost a lot less and allow Hughes to move back to the rotation (where his career will be). Hughes should be at least as good as Mitre and would get valuable experience.
One reliever who's name I've heard is the White Sox' Matt Thornton: 32 years old, 38.2 ip, 2.73 FIP, 45 K, 1.16 WHIP, signed through 2011. Chicago needs a centerfielder: would you give up one of Gardner/Melky to get Thornton, a hard-throwing lefty (97 MPH avg. FB)? Or would he be redundant with the not-far-off return of Damaso Marte?
Then of course there's Colorado's Huston Street: 25 years old, 40.1 ip, 3.17 FIP, 45 K, .97 WHIP, arbitration eligible. Street would require considerably more than Thornton, merely for the fact that he's seven years younger. Would you give up something like Zach McAllister and one of Cervelli/Pena and Melky/Garnder for Street?
- A little info on our most interest prospects:
Jesus Montero was rated the third best prospect in baseball just a couple weeks ago by Baseball America - one of only 13 ML prospects considered 'untouchable' by BA. After going 3-5 with a double last night, the teenage catcher is at .305/.373/.516 in Double-A. BTB's Trade Calculator says Montero, by himself, is worth more than Roy Halladay.
Austin Jackson, 22, is an intriguing centerfield prospect having a solid year in Triple-A: .318/.384/.442 with 17 steals and just one CS. However, he has an alarming number of strikeouts (83) against only four homers.
Zach McAllister, 21, is currently the best pitcher in the system: 92 ip, 2.25 ERA, 75 K, 1.14 WHIP for AA Trenton.
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So who do you want most? Let us know in the poll; and when voting, please take into account the cost required to get each player.
(Contract info from Cot's; stats from MiLB, BRef and FanGraphs)
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First off
Id like to trade none of Montero, Jackson, Cervelli and McAllister. And if possibly Betances, Ivan Nova nyet too.
The 2 names Id say are most likely (tho both aren’t likely…) that the Yanks might get: Thornton and or Washburn.
Thornton depends on Marte and if he shows something when he comes back. I think the Yanks need one more reliever in there that is reliable, and Thornton is easy gas (love when I hear that….) type of thrower. Id love to have him if the Whities are willing to trade him.
Washburn may not cost all that much other than salary, but the Yanks have been linked to him for seemingly his entire career. Id take him in a second tho, but I doubt it.
Cliff Lee I don’t think the Yanks are desperate enough to trade for, he wouldn’t cost all that less than Halladay either I don’t think.
Houston Street I don’t even think will be available (even if I say no anyway…). The Rockies are legit and in the NL West WC race (the Pirates are in the race too….) so I doubt they sell anyone.
by FreeBradshaw on Jul 22, 2009 7:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
And here's
a major reason why Roy Halladay should be a no go…
Steve Phillips is on Baseball Tonight on a soap box saying that the Red Sox Bucholz or the Yankees give up Joba.
If Steve Phillips thinks its a good idea, that’s more reason smart GM’s should STAY AWAY!!!!
….and as proof, this is the genius that traded Scott Kazmir (who at the time was one of the best prospects in baseball) for Victor Zambrano. Not Carlos, Victor.
by FreeBradshaw on Jul 22, 2009 7:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It was actuallyJim Duquette who traded Kazmir.
That’s a common misconception. That and “Peter Gammons is in the Hall of Fame.” He’s not in the Hall, he was once Honored by the Hall, but he was not formally inducted.
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Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.
by CasanovaWong on Jul 22, 2009 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh.
maybe if I cared a bit more about the Mets Id know.
I wonder if Gammons was wearing a Red Sox cap when he was honored by the HOF?
by FreeBradshaw on Jul 23, 2009 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know they don’t like the idea of Mitre filling in number 5. Decent outting against a team 15 games under .500 isn’t going to get us into and thru October.
But at the same time your not going to see a huge move for a major ACE.
I think, And if it were me.
I’d get my foot in Bruney’s ass… And stretch Hughes or Aceves out to start fulltime. Most likely Aceves.
Trade Montero and Mitre for a decent prospect to work in the bullpen.
by Gangsta Yanksta on Jul 22, 2009 8:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What?
first off, Mitre doing what he did is just fine for a #5. There’s no need to waste a prospect for a #5 starter. The O’s may be 15 games under .500, but that’s cuz of the pitching not the hitters. Mitre did a good job against them too, so that was a nice game for him.
You can stretch out Aceves or Hughes, but who fills that role in the pen? Certainly not Bruney, cuz if he did then we could stretch either out.
And why the hell would you trade the #3 overall prospect in all of baseball…with Mitre of all people, for bullpen help? Unless we are guaranteed of getting MO Rivera back in that trade, Im gonna go ahead and say that’s not a smart thing to do.
Montero for Halladay straight up isn’t actually a great idea, so now trade him for bullpen help? LOL, this isn’t MLB 09
by FreeBradshaw on Jul 22, 2009 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Montero for JJ Putz
BOOK IT!!
Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.
by CasanovaWong on Jul 22, 2009 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
To clarify:
BTB’s Trade Calculator says Montero, by himself, is worth more than Roy Halladay.
This is context-neutral. Teams in a playoff hunt (like the Yankees) would get more out of Halladay’s performance the next 1.5 years than would a team like the Pirates. Also, with the size of the Yankees payroll, taking on Halladay’s money limits their financial flexibility less than other teams. On the con side, addressing context, the Yankees fifth starter is much better than replacement level, meaning they wouldn’t see as much of an upgrade as, say, the Rangers.
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by Sky Kalkman on Jul 22, 2009 8:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
cool
so you’re saying those factors basically even out?
by Travis G on Jul 22, 2009 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, I don't know if they even out.
I’m saying the trade value calculator doesn’t consider them. So while in a vaccuum, Montero for Halladay is more than enough, most mid-season trades involve a better prospect package because the stud player is in high demand and teams in contention have a huge need for upgrades.
The last one (who gets kicked out of rotation) is easy to measure. The first one (playoff probability added) will be easy to measure once Nick publishes the spreadsheet he uses to calculate playoff odds (just change some numbers and see what happens.) The middle one (ability to handle additional payroll) seems more difficult, but is probably the least important.
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by Sky Kalkman on Jul 23, 2009 8:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think it should be halladay or nothing.
i say this because cliff lee isnt great this year.
our bullpen is FINE…and will have no problems in the playoffs. the only questionable thing is a 5th starter. but in the playoffs it doesnt matter. the problem is joba’s IP limit. so the only guy i should see is halladay. but i’d rather see none considering the jays want every1 for him.
by bforce3 on Jul 22, 2009 9:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Halladay is not necessary.
There is no reason to go all in for him and not go get someone like Jared Washburn who will cost a whole lot less.
Halladay doesn’t guarantee squat. If the Yankees lacked a #1 or #2 for that matter ,then OK. But with CC and AJ, there’s no need to go all in for a 3rd guy in that mold.
by FreeBradshaw on Jul 22, 2009 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
thats y i said i’d prefer no1 BUT if they were insistent on getting some1 i’d want him. hes the most reliable guy of any mentioned
by bforce3 on Jul 22, 2009 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Im saying
is that with guys like CC and AJ in the rotation, there is no need for a #1 starter. Having 3 #1 caliber starters is nice, but why?
Why not go for Washburn who can be a very nice #3 starter on a contender, especially if you don’t have to give up your top flight prospects for him?
And Washburn is a FA after this season, the Yanks trade for him and wave goodbye they get a pick for him!
by FreeBradshaw on Jul 22, 2009 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It seems to me...
That’s like saying that with Glavine and Smoltz, the Braves had no need for a guy like Maddux. CC, AJ, and Halladay could matchup against any 3 starters anywhere anytime as long as they stay healthy. And that is a crapshoot every team has to take.
Also Halladay can only help as far as AJ is concerned.
"Character consists of what you do on the third and fourth tries."
James A. Michener
by Lumpee on Jul 22, 2009 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the difference is
Maddux was a FA, that’s a HUGE!!! difference. Another HUGHE difference, other than the lack of future the Braves had to give up, is the fact Maddux was 27 when he signed with the Braves,
So its really nothing even close.
Of course if Halladay’s a FA then Id sign him I guess, tho I doubt AJ fits in there cuz that’s a lot of dough.
by FreeBradshaw on Jul 22, 2009 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I dont see what it matters
once the team is assembled, how the players were obtained. I understand wanting to keep prospects, but you are talking about a VERY formidable rotation for the next two and a half years at least., especially if Hughes (assuming Joba went to Toronto in the deal) improves next year. That is worth considering giving up one of the top two prospects, Joba, and one of their excess outfielders. Considering that the definition of prospect is “maybe one day”.. and any outfielder Toronto would want can be replaced easily, all they would tangibly lose is Joba and in return get the best pitcher in the AL.
"Character consists of what you do on the third and fourth tries."
James A. Michener
by Lumpee on Jul 22, 2009 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is the sort of thinking
that forces the Yankees to spend on AJ, on CC, on Tex, on A-Rod….etc.
Of course, RIGHT NOW, it could look great.
But if the Yankees don’t win the WS, then the trade looks stupid.
You build youre team from within. One pitcher, at the expense of potential future ace, a potential future All-Star Catcher, a potential starting CF, and maybe another guy with ace potential in Betances, it doesn’t make sense.
This is not how smart baseball teams are run. The Yankees have tried to buy championships since 2002, It hasn’t worked and it was a stupid idea to begin with.
by FreeBradshaw on Jul 22, 2009 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would be mad as heck
if the Yankees gave up Montero AND Jackson. That just isn’t gonna happen, imo. But one of two is reasonable. And yes you build from within, but that doesn’t mean that you keep all of your homegrowns. The farm system should produce trade material as well as Yankee players.
"Character consists of what you do on the third and fourth tries."
James A. Michener
by Lumpee on Jul 22, 2009 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It should be to trade
if you have pieces to trade. Montero and Jackson, who would both be in that trade, are not blocked by any young player on the big club right now.
That’s when you trade pieces from the farm, when there really is no one blocking them, or maybe you have others in the pipeline to replace them.
The Yanks trade all these guys, then what? Cervell is a future backup C, so are we gonna cross our fingers Mauer doesn’t really really like Minnesota (or better yet, pay a catcher $150+ million?)
And there is no OF prospect in the Yanks system other than Jackson who seems like a lock for the bigs. Melky and Gardner are nice, but Jackson has much more potential than them.
Its just simply not needed. Halladay is great, but he doesn’t guarantee anything. The only thing it does guarantee is future FA dollars spent on a catcher like Mauer or a OF like Jason Bay.
Its just not necessary cuz it doesn’t guarantee anything.
by FreeBradshaw on Jul 22, 2009 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Of course it doesn't
guarantee anything. Nothing is guaranteed. But it comes a lot closer to doing so than prospects do. Remember how “bright” the future looked for Melky?
I’m gonna disagree with you that Cervelli is a future backup. Only time will tell. Besides, Cervelli isn’t the only catcher in the system. The Yanks could make do with Molina for a couple of years (which they are likely to have to do anyway because Montero is nowhere near ready).
There is a good reason that people spend a poopload of money on free agents. They often produce, and make even more money for the organization. On the other hand, prospects often don’t produce, that is why they don’t usually get big contracts. I say spend the money and get the best.
"Character consists of what you do on the third and fourth tries."
James A. Michener
by Lumpee on Jul 22, 2009 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
nah..
again, money and big name players don’t do a got damn thing.
Melky’s future was bright, yea, but so what? He’s still young and playing a big part on the team. WOuld I like Beltran out there? Yea, but the Yanks went in a different direction (Giambi? How that turn out?)
Building from within and getting a few parts here and there through FA and trades OK.
Cervelli is a backup, cuz Montero is the starter. Cervelli maybe Jesus reincarnate, but Montero is the Yanks future at the position.
And you kinda lost all sorts of credibility when saying prospects don’t produce.
Of course some don’t produce, but you are paying them minimum wage. And when they do produce, your are still paying them minimum wage.
A FA busts, you’re paying 10’s of millions. They produce, you’re still paying 10’s of millions.
The Yankees already are spending the money. They have been spending the money. It hasn’t worked out on the field either….
And the Yankees cannot make do with Molina for any sort of years. Posada’s still alive and kicking anyway.
I can’t believe Im even arguing this. This is the main reason this organization gets knocked. I mean Id rather them spend on the team than pocket the money, but building from within is the way to go if you want to win championships.
by FreeBradshaw on Jul 23, 2009 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How can I
lose credibility by saying prospects OFTEN don’t produce (get it right if you’re gonna quote, please)? They often don’t.
Montero is a sorry defensive catcher, that’s the position that he likes, but likely not his major league position. And by the way, Posada is still alive, but feebly kicking. He couldn’t have made those two defensive plays that Molina made the other night.
Spending money seems to have worked out for the Yankees to the tune on more championships than any other sports franchise in history. On the other hand, how are the miserly Braves and Pirates doing?
And the main reason this organization gets knocked is because the peons are jealous of the greatest.
"Character consists of what you do on the third and fourth tries."
James A. Michener
by Lumpee on Jul 23, 2009 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Yankees
started spending money feverishly for god’s know what reason after the 2001 season, HOW"S THAT WORKING OUT!
Giambi to Mussina to A-Rod, its nice in the reg season, but give him Posada, Jeter, MO, Bernie and a Shane Spencer (lol) any day over these other big money FA.
Braves are doing OK, but how about the Phillies? How are they doing? Cole Hamels, Rollins, Howard, Utley…yea they suck.
Yanks during their late 90’s run didn’t really ‘buy’ any of those like they are trying to do now. Id rather get back to that. The Yanks have spent enough money anyway.
by FreeBradshaw on Jul 23, 2009 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I respect where
you are coming from, but I think the price in the end is gonna be a little lower than is floating around right now for Halladay, and I think it may be worth paying.
O Neill wasn’t homegrown, nor was Knobbie..Chili Davis, Tim Raines, Straw, Brosius, Jeff Nelson,Cone, Wells, Stanton, Wetteland, Clemens, Justice…I mean how many names do you want… ( I admit there were a couple of big busts..i.e. Canseco)
The Yanks could likely pull off a trade and still keep a nucleus of young talent. And Halladay is a special case, both because of his mentor relationship to AJ, and his proven ability to excel against AL East competition.
"Character consists of what you do on the third and fourth tries."
James A. Michener
by Lumpee on Jul 23, 2009 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Highly
highly (not enough highly’s in there) doubt the Jays will drop the price, ESPECIALLY to the Yankees of all teams.
I doubt the Jays ask for any less than Montero and Jackson and one of Hughes or Joba, then you can add in another lower level high ceiling prospect.
Its not worth it unless the Yankees get them all back if they don’t win the WS this year.
by FreeBradshaw on Jul 23, 2009 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jared Washburn isn't better than anyone in the Yankee rotation, plus at least one member of the bullpen.
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by Sky Kalkman on Jul 22, 2009 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
how so?
looking at many of his stats this season, he’s having as good a season as anyone on the Yanks.
He’s actually having similar season to CC, so??
by FreeBradshaw on Jul 22, 2009 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you gotta keep in mind that the new Yankee stadium is inflating our pitcher’s numbers.
by Wraithpk on Jul 22, 2009 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
true
but Washburn’s away stats are similar to CC’s away stats.
Washburn, if the Yanks think they need a starter, would be a nice pickup. He always would have been every year they’ve been rumored to get him
by FreeBradshaw on Jul 22, 2009 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
2009 is a small enough sample. Road starts is way too small.
Washburn pitches in a park that kills right-handed power. As a left-handed fly ball pitcher, Washburn benefits from that more than anybody.
If you don’t look at ERA, but at skills and estimates of ERA based on skills, Washburn doesn’t look so hot. And if you look beyond 2009, he really doesn’t look so hot. He’s a league average starter, at best. That’s not bad, but not an upgrade.
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by Sky Kalkman on Jul 23, 2009 8:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
we should be able to win with this team
i say save the prospects and let it ride
by holycowboy on Jul 22, 2009 9:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
More names
If the Yankees are committed to taking Joba out of the rotation after 150 IP and keeping Hughes in the pen, we don’t have a game 4 starter in the playoffs unless Wang makes some miraculous return which you can’t really expect at this point. So the Yankees have to either deal for a starter or let Joba throw 180-200 innings this year including October.
Here are some other names off the top of my head in addition to those listed:
Paul Maholm – nothing outstanding but he’s solid and he throws strikes.
Aaron Harang – has kind of lost it the last 2 years. He has a bad contract but on the bright side he’d cost very little.
Gil Meche – the Royals said they wouldn’t deal him but who knows.
Chris Young – Cashman has a good relationship with Kevin Towers but he’s signed cheaply for 2010 and 2011 so he’d be costly. The problem with the last 3 is they’d block Hughes from the rotation in 2010.
by Let's Talk About Tex Baby on Jul 22, 2009 9:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
We have the greatest franchise of all time
We should sign no one let everyone else pay too much for Roy and when it is time for Halladay to make the huge money we can offer him the likes of sabathia numbers or more and have continued greatness. It is so good beinga Yankees fan.
Love you all
by kebbins4 on Jul 22, 2009 9:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Get a pitcher for the future.
When the white sox tried the Peavy trade they offered up Aaron Poreda. Poreda has been called up to the show but only to mop up. I have seen him pitch two years ago in the Pioneer League. He throws bb’s with movement. The Yankees could use a pitcher like Poreda. Go Yankees!!!
by GrandMasterPimpDogg@Yahoo.com on Jul 22, 2009 10:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
"He throws bb’s with movement."
i thought: he throws walks with movement?! wtf?… then i realized you meant BBs as in BB Gun. hehe.
by Travis G on Jul 22, 2009 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t want anyone if it means giving up one of our top prospects. As we are right now, I’m very confident we will make the playoffs even with a band-aid on the 5th rotation spot. Once we get to the playoffs, we don’t need a 5th starter anyway, and might not even need a 4th, but we’ll see.
I mean, I would absolutely love to get another ace to add to the rotation, but I don’t want to sell our farm for it. We have to think about not only this year, but years to come. The Yankees aren’t just building for one championship this year, we want to win more down the road.
by Wraithpk on Jul 22, 2009 11:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'd rather see the Yankees get back Carl Pavano
than see the Yankees give away the prospects the Jays are going to demand for Halladay.
by BigSlim on Jul 23, 2009 12:14 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
stupid
You know you guys who are arguing that these maybe prospects are going to be all stars are the same ones who were crying about Rasner and had Kennedy projected as a #2.Jackson looks more and more like lastings miledge every day.Highly praised 240 hitter.If they trade for Hallady your posts will read Cash is a genius Joba sucks Jays can have him.Do not let this win streak fool you,they have needs.Every team can improve and this group is yet to beat the sox and hold water against the angels.I have no faith in Cash anymore and whatever he does always seems to come up rotten.PS please quite playing Ransom it will catch up with them.
by cashman bashman on Jul 23, 2009 10:21 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
paragraphs + spaces after sentences
= good.
by FreeBradshaw on Jul 23, 2009 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
WHAT!?!?
“whatever he does always seems to come up rotten”
How can you say that? Look who the Yankees got this last off-season. Not only did we get pitching we desperately needed (Sabathia and Burnett), but we got the best offensive player in the whole free agency pool (Teixeira). So, dont say what he does always comes up rotten because without these 3, we wouldn’t even be close to first place.
by StevieV17 on Jul 23, 2009 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Obviously, which pitcher, if any, depends on price and mental toughness. I would want a back-up closer for nights that Mariano is not available. Bruney was one out away and did not finish. Coke succeeded one time, but laboriously and perilously. Melancon has not proved he can do that in the majors. (I guess that Cox has maxed out.) Street would fill that need if not Hughes. Washburn might be a quick rental at a low price. As a lefty, he or Lee would have an advantage in Yankee Stadium, which would be more important than the potential problem in Fenway. The Yanks can win this year but they will need sustained excellence. My first impulses would be Washburn, Street or both, because I suspect that Halliday and Lee will be too costly over the long haul. We don’t want to acquire Doyle Alexander for John Smoltz.
by logiet on Jul 23, 2009 10:46 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Melancon hasn't proved anything yet
its his first year in the bigs.
And since when is MO not available? If anything, for the rest of the season they can trot out whoever and just bring in the Rolls to get and out or 2.
by FreeBradshaw on Jul 23, 2009 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Melancon hasn't proved anything yet"
Melancon hasn’t proved anything yet
by NumberSeven on Jul 23, 2009 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like that last sentence...
It was funny.
"Character consists of what you do on the third and fourth tries."
James A. Michener
by Lumpee on Jul 23, 2009 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Melancon hasn't proved anything yet"
agreed- but he hasn’t really had a consistent shot either. Perhaps if Joe can move past his Bruney-crush, Melancon will get the ball a few times…
by NumberSeven on Jul 23, 2009 11:38 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
crap...
love it when that happens… didn’t hear me? i’ll say it again!!
by NumberSeven on Jul 23, 2009 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol...
all I was saying is dude above me said Melancon proved he can’t pitch in the bigs. That is false. I must intervene in situations like this.
I want him to get his chances as much as anyone, especially with Dr. Jekyll and Mrs. Bruney in the bullpen.
by FreeBradshaw on Jul 23, 2009 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
get halladay
Despite all the flack A/Rod gets, the truth is it’s been our pitching which has let us down in the playoffs since 2003. Is everyone really comfortable with Sabathia/Burnett/Pettite against the elite staffs at Tampa or Boston? I certainly like Halladay/Sabathia/Burnett a lot more, with Halladay coming back again to close it out. Joba/Hughes are a total roll of the dice, a lot of pitchers show promise but never become what Halladay’s is. Generally, I agree in not buying veteran talent, but a proven #1 starter is not something to pass up. YOU CANT HAVE TOO MUCH PITCHING.
by bg_gol on Jul 23, 2009 12:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yea
Im just fine with the Yanks staff, there’s really no need at all for Halladay.
Tampa elite staff? Have you taken a gander at their stats this season? Tampa’s staff is far from elite this season.
And when you matchup CC and AJ against Beckett and Lester, why would anyone be so scared of that? They’ve handled the yanks in the past, but the Yanks are too good to go 0-life against these guys. It will turn around.
The rest of Boston’s staff is actually just as uncertain as the Yanks. Bucholz will probably be a lock the rest of the season, but is he really much different than Joba? Isn’t Andy better than Brad Penny or Smoltz?
I have no problem with bottom 3 of the Yanks staff, simply because they can score enough runs when the guy on the mound doesn’t come to work that day.
by FreeBradshaw on Jul 23, 2009 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Craig Stammen--remember him?
If the price is right.
by twinight on Jul 23, 2009 1:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
My thoughts exactly
BTB’s Trade Calculator says Montero, by himself, is worth more than Roy Halladay.
"That Troy Polamaga guy looks like Predator"-A keen observation during Superbowl 43. Thanks to Walterfootball.
by HighSchoolSteeler on Jul 27, 2009 3:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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