Heyman: Phillies most likely to land Halladay

by Ed Valentine on Jul 20, 2009 12:45 PM EDT in News Comment 12 comments

SI.com's Jon Heyman says it appears the Philadelphia Phillies are the favorites to land Roy Halladay.

Yikes! Facing Halladay and Cole Hamels in the post-season wouldn't be much fun.

As for the Yankees, here is what Heyman had to say.

The Yankees and Red Sox were both informed early that the Jays would look elsewhere first, and the Jays have stuck to that by not yet following up on an original call with the Yankees. For the first time, Ricciardi explained his stance on dealing the superstar inside the division. "We're not averse to doing it,'' Ricciardi said by phone. "(But) it's something that would obviously have to be a good return back.''

The Yankees understand they'd have to surrender one of two top young pitchers, Joba Chamberlain or new eighth-inning star Phil Hughes, plus some names from a high-end prospect list that would likely include outfielder Austin Jackson and one of two catchers, Jesus Montero or Francisco Cervelli. There is a belief that while the Yankees have to pay a premium, and one person familiar with their thinking said they badly don't want to "gut their system,'' they still have requested of Toronto a right to match (or in this case beat) the best offer when the deal's about to go down.

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If the Jays don't take

Cervelli straight up, then there is no dealing with them.

I say just thank them for taking 2/3 from the chumps and forget it.

by FreeBradshaw on Jul 20, 2009 12:51 PM EDT reply actions

we dont need halladay

the price is way to high

by dan.altman89 on Jul 20, 2009 2:03 PM EDT reply actions

i agree...

the price they are asking is way to high..i would rather have phil hughes and joba at 22/23 years old than halladay at 32. I don’t care how good he is, we dont need him.

by DefensiveIndifference1 on Jul 20, 2009 2:15 PM EDT reply actions

Trey Hillman ...

What is he “Karnack”? Gimme a break. Perhaps he should look into his crystal ball to determine what day he’s gonna’ get fired from the Royals.

"Baseball is the background music of my life." -George Will

by Ronster22 on Jul 20, 2009 2:24 PM EDT reply actions

Phillies would be great.

He’s outta the AL and tortures the mets. Wonderful!

Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.

by CasanovaWong on Jul 20, 2009 3:33 PM EDT reply actions

Hamels kinda sucks now

and Doc won’t get traded anyway.

by fob22 on Jul 20, 2009 3:46 PM EDT reply actions

I think this whole analysis is backwards

There has been a ton of speculation on whether or not the Jays would trade Halladay “within the division” of the AL East because they would have to face him every year. But imagine that scenario from the Yankees point of view.

For the sake of argument let’s say the trade goes down like so…..

Yankees get – Roy Halladay, Vernon Wells
Jays get – Joba Chamberlain, Jesus Montero, Austin Jackson, Dellin Betances, Melky Cabrera

If I’m looking at this trade, I think the “within the division” aspect backfires and the Yankees much more than the Jays. I DON’T want to trade all of those good young players within the division. If the Yankees were to make this trade, we would make the Blue Jays contenders for years to come and handcuff ourselves financially. The AL East is tough enough already without loading up the Jays for the next 10 years.

by Lord Duggan on Jul 20, 2009 4:11 PM EDT reply actions

credible?

wasn’t this also the guy that said the yankees weren’t going to land CC OR TEX

by ScubaSmitty on Jul 20, 2009 4:37 PM EDT reply actions

Phillies

don’t need Halladay as much as they did a week ago, they are running away with the division and they just signed Pedro.

Also J.P. Ricarrdi is a Billy Beane student, he doesn’t really care about what teams hes trading with.

"Hey Derek do you actually drive the Edge?","I don't drive that piece of crap!"

by Da Shiz on Jul 20, 2009 5:32 PM EDT reply actions

Don't worry, Yankees fans

From the AP:

"The only way he’s going to be traded is if we are overwhelmed. We are not looking to move Doc. The only way it’s going to happen is if it makes complete, rational sense."—Paul Beeston, the Jays’ interim president and CEO on the trade rumors surrounding RHP Roy Halladay.

by EastCoastJaysFan on Jul 20, 2009 10:50 PM EDT reply actions

The Yankees understand they’d have to surrender one of two top young pitchers, Joba Chamberlain or new eighth-inning star Phil Hughes, plus some names from a high-end prospect list that would likely include outfielder Austin Jackson and one of two catchers, Jesus Montero or Francisco Cervelli.

Eh, I’ll pass.

by nygmp42 on Jul 20, 2009 10:59 PM EDT reply actions

The price is way too high. Austin Jackson will likely be ready next year, and he’s projected to be the center fielder of the future for the yankees, a slightly slower runner than gardner, but a much better hitter. Then there’s Jesus Montero, who everyone is saying at the plate he could be the next Manny. Give up both of those guys, and a future top of the rotation starter in Joba or Phil? No thank you, I’ll pass.

by Wraithpk on Jul 21, 2009 12:32 PM EDT reply actions