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Give the Stadium a 'Wet Willie'

Empty premium seats are just one of the reasons to give the new Yankee Stadium a 'Wet Willie' after its first half-season.

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Empty premium seats are just one of the reasons to give the new Yankee Stadium a 'Wet Willie' after its first half-season.

One of the commenters on my 'Kudos & Wet Willies' post the other day asked if I would give the new Yankee Stadium -- 'the new house' as Michael Kay calls it -- a 'Kudos' or a 'Wet Willie.'

My answer was, at this point, a 'Wet Willie.' Thought I would take the opportunity to expand on my reasoning a bit.

I have written before that the Stadium is a beautiful place. It is. Yet, there are too many issues -- some big and some small. With better planning, many of the things about the Stadium that have been constantly criticized could have been avoided.

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We have been over much of this before, but we might as well do it again. We can't talk about Joba or Roy Halladay every day. Well, maybe we can, but I don't want to.

  • The home run barrage -- I am used to it by now, but it could have been minimized somewhat by just making the fences a bit higher. They are ridiculously low. Also, if they have to be that low why no barricade (like there is in St. Louis) to keep fans from reaching over the wall? As it is now, the only thing the Yankees can do is remove some seats and push the fences back, and I hate that.
  • The insult to history -- Monument Park is terrible and can't be seen from most spots in the Stadium. Where is the banner that used to be on upper deck that says "26-time World Champions?" The retired numbers and championship year insignias are almost invisible behind the bleachers.
  • The video boards -- There is a ton of video capability, but the Yankees don't use it well. It's ridiculous that the out-of-town scoreboard in a $1.5 billion building only shows four games.
  • The restaurant -- It's a joke that in 2009 the Yankees built a restaurant in center field that obscures seats. 
  • The moat -- If you want to sell the closest seats for the highest price, that's fine. But, to insult the majority of your fan base the way the Yankees did with their high-fallutin,' you-can't-come-in-here section was a bad decision. I'm not sure it can ever be undone, or if Lonn Trost is smart enough to realize it should be.

Central to the whole thing is a very revealing interview Hal Steinbrenner gave just about a year ago. In it, it's easy to see that Hal -- and probably everyone else in decision-making positions around him -- simply doesn't feel the pull of franchise history the way Yankee fans do. What they feel, of course, is the pull of the dollar.

"Maybe I'm not the most sentimental person in the world when it comes to things like that, but I'm more excited about moving into the new one than I am sad about leaving the old one," he said. "I guess that's just me. Everyone takes something like this in a different way, but having gone over this on a daily basis and walking through it every week or two, I'm just excited. It's going to be phenomenal, just phenomenal, compared to any other stadium in the country. So I'm excited. I've got more excitement than anything."

Anyway, for now a 'Wet Willie' to the new house.

Yankee Stadium Home Run Tracker

Games Played: 42
Home Runs Hit: 132
Pace: 255
Stadium Record:
303, Coors Field, 1999
Monday Homers: Toronto -- McDonald, Rios; New York -- Hinske

(See them all)

(thru 7/05/09)

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I think that it is sad . . .

that you have such a storied franchise being run by someone who could care less about the history of the old stadium. Hal should take a step back from the pile of money he is looking at and realize that to the fans that stadium meant more then he can ever imagine.

To the fans this is a game that is loved and adored. We obviously love it or we wouldn’t spend our days sitting here arguing the better way to trade for this player, should we send this one down, why in the world is that one even in the bigs, so on and so forth. I think it is sad that they built this new “phenomenal (stadium), just phenomenal, compared to any other stadium in the country” and can’t see that it is useless if they can’t fill the seats because they have priced it out of the fans wallet.

The game is for the fans, unfortunately it looks like Hal thinks that it is to line his pockets.

by syllk on Jul 15, 2009 10:19 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Constantly trying to find things wrong with the Stadium

Obviously there are problems, but the non-stop criticism of the place just gets boring.

Nothing is going to be fixed this season, and the Stadium is 3 months old. I loved the old Stadium, spent a ton of time there over the last 25 years, but if you’re being honest with yourself, the new Stadium is a major upgrade in terms of getting around the concourses.

Ultimately, if you’re just going to watch a baseball game, it’s a beautiful place to be. I don’t care about the food, or the stupid moat or any of that other crap. I never sat in the field level anyway, so what do I care if the seats are $1200?

Yeah, they blew it by vastly overpricing them, but that’ll get corrected.

And complaining about how the Yankees only care about money is hilarious. As if that’s a new development. George didn’t give a shiat about the fans any more than his sons or Levine/Trost do, he was just better at PRETENDING he did.

That was a guy who wanted to move the team to New Jersey 15 years ago.

by New York Sports Jerk on Jul 15, 2009 11:33 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree . . .

Maybe just a little more sentiment for the history and the game in general is in order.

They are businessmen, and are running a business, I wouldn’t expect them to not think about the money. Maybe I just wish he was a little better at “pretending” that he cared.

by syllk on Jul 15, 2009 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

All I care about...

…is that they continue to do their best to put the best possible team on the field.

Say what you will about George, and believe me the man destroyed the team in the 80s and early 90s because of his stupidity, but he’s always cared about winning and did everything with that in mind.

And I don’t love the new Stadium, but I’ve been 8 times and they’ve won 7 times … it can’t be all that bad.

by New York Sports Jerk on Jul 15, 2009 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Please keep going then . . .

I wouldn’t mind if they had a .875 winning percentage at home for the rest of the season!

I do agree, it is about winning, and that is what built the history at the old stadium and it will be what builds the history at the new one. The Yankees aren’t my team to be losers, (though I rooted for them through the debacle know as the 80’s and early 90’s), they are the team to beat year in and year out, at least in my mind.

I believe that all the talk about “this part of the stadium and that part of the stadium” will disappear if they win 3 or 4 WS in the next 10 yrs. All of the sudden it won’t matter all that much.

by syllk on Jul 15, 2009 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh don't worry...

…I’ll probably go another 8-10 times this year, starting Friday night.

As long as I can keep getting tickets for super cheap on StubHub, i’ll keep going and winning ballgames for you.

by New York Sports Jerk on Jul 15, 2009 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I completely agree NYSJ

for probably the first time in my PA history. Right on bro.

by Lord Duggan on Jul 15, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Criticism is relative

There are a lot of great things about the new stadium, a lot more great things than there are bad things, and the first time I was there I really didn’t notice many of the bad things, so I guess that’s a positive statement. I think the main issue is that for $2 billion people expected perfection and the place is not perfect.

The home run thing is an issue although the homers are really dying down from where they were in April. The Yankees obviously intended to make it more of a hitters park because there’s no way they could have thought that 2-foot shorter fences and shorter power alleys wouldn’t increase the home run output. It’ll be interesting if anyone ever gets them to admit this, and why.

The main complaint for me is the lack of attention to detail in the outfield backdrop. In a lot of the new ballparks there are little interesting things all over the place. In Yankee Stadium there are a lot of plain cement walls out there, and of course Monument Park was shoved in, and there is very little attention to history that’s visible from the field. The good news is that these things could probably be fixed, or at least improved. We’ll see what happens.

by Let's Talk About Tex Baby on Jul 15, 2009 12:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I loooove the new stadium!

Been to a bunch of games this year, and had been to the old stadium since I was a kid in the 70s-80s. I also had season tix for about 6 years.

I do miss the history and aura of the old place…and certainly the GREAT monument park in the old place.

BUT, I LOVE the New Stadium.

Expensive tix aside, you can still get in for cheap and enjoy the view from lots of angles, standing where you like. It’s so nice to get in and out of and just so breezy and clean.

It’s just a great place to see a game!

Yeah, they screwed up the RF wall. Yeah the restaurant in CF sucks. Yeah monument park is a failure to all the heroes whose numbers and plaques are there.

They can fix the wall, park, scoreboard info……but they can’t fix the restaurant/bar unless they rip that thing out. Been in there once too. Doesn’t seem like a big money maker and I wouldn’t be surprised if it got revised. How about tearing it out and leaving the elevated section in tact, but clearing the under area? Then fans in the sections along side could look out and not be obstructed….except by support poles….not perfect…but better!

by Ragnar808 on Jul 15, 2009 9:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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