Game 76: Potential pitcher's duel
by Travis G on Jun 30, 2009 6:15 PM EDT
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Seattle Mariners at New York Yankees, Jun 30, 2009 7:05 PM EDT
Both Brandon Morrow and Joba Chamberlain are capable of throwing no-hitters every time they go out there. Despite Morrow's 5.64 ERA, he's capable of great things, and tonight could be a pitcher's duel.
Morrow is in the midst of re-converting from reliever to starter. Do y'all remember that brilliant effort of his last September, when he allowed one run on one hit in 7.1 innings (to go along with eight Ks)? Anyway, that was his only start against the Yanks; he also has five relief appearances.
Joba has never started against Seattle (but has faced them three times in relief), and is coming off one of his better starts of the season, when he allowed two runs in 6.1 innings in Atlanta (and the best part? no walks).
There are a number of Yankees in the midst of a hot streak, but at the very top are old-buddies A-Rod and Jeter; they're OPSing 1.533 and 1.208 (respectively) over the last week. The only regular on the icy side is Robbie Cano, OPSing .488. Perhaps Girardi should drop him in the lineup until he starts hitting again.
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I expect
Joba to have another good start and the Yankees to win this one. That he had no walks last game is huge, because that means he had his control and when he does he’s tough to touch. Morrow has not pitched well this season at all. Yanks really should win this one.
by Rumplestiltskin02 on Jun 30, 2009 7:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Cano
I think Cano’s numbers last week are deceiving…he hit a ton of line drives right at people – this brings up an interesting issue, at least in my mind, where cano’s “ideal” spot in the line up…will be…or should be…
by Knicks2010 on Jun 30, 2009 8:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
A homer to Ronny Bleeping Cedeno?
Way to give up (half) the lead, Joba.
by cph on Jun 30, 2009 8:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i blame Posada
if Cervelli was catching than Joba would be throwing a perfect game
by Brian5517209 on Jun 30, 2009 9:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I bet if Chamberlain were catching, he wouldn't have given
up so many hits, walks and runs today.
by cph on Jun 30, 2009 9:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
so he would be catching himself!?
you think he could outrun his fastball, get in a squat, and catch!?
by Brian5517209 on Jun 30, 2009 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is a pitiful performance by Joba against the team
with the second worst OPS in the AL.
by cph on Jun 30, 2009 9:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
running wild....
Jeez…3 sbs in the inning thus far.
by mrljdavid on Jun 30, 2009 9:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
it's over thankfully
but the damage is done, and do we still run out Joba for the 6th?
by Brian5517209 on Jun 30, 2009 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No - he's had nothing today
11 out of 25 batters have reached safely. Send him to the showers.
by cph on Jun 30, 2009 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
About
If you figure $33,000,000 and 660 plate appearances in a full season.
by cph on Jun 30, 2009 9:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
and here i am working full time at 8 dollars an hour trying to save up for a car this summer
and i barely make 300 a week while this guy gets 50 grand every AB to hit .230 and do steroids >:0
by Brian5517209 on Jun 30, 2009 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Joba looks liek trash again
I can’t wait till all the trolls post the Joba to the pen crap again.
by FreeBradshaw on Jun 30, 2009 10:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well, he did pitch poorly today and his velocity was way
down in the 5th inning for some reason. His “command” was off the whole night.
by cph on Jun 30, 2009 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Isn't that technically a troll?
In any event, I took the bait.
Another 3000 pitches to get 16 outs. File that one away in the “ace” folder.
by New York Sports Jerk on Jun 30, 2009 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
anyone think cano and Posada should switch places?
as good as a hitter cano is, he isn’t hitting in big moments.
by lololol on Jun 30, 2009 10:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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sounds like “grand slam” in Japanese
by FreeBradshaw on Jun 30, 2009 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Look athe Mariner pitcher's
last name.
If that doesn’t cheer you up nothing will.
by FreeBradshaw on Jun 30, 2009 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
sounds like something Joba the Hutt in Star Wars would say
“Jakubauskas!”
by Brian5517209 on Jun 30, 2009 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol
that’s exactly what I thought when I say it too
by FreeBradshaw on Jun 30, 2009 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't know what
“ground out to end the inning” is tho
by FreeBradshaw on Jun 30, 2009 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's some good clutch hitting
another bases loaded opportunity wasted
by cph on Jun 30, 2009 10:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
jesus joba...learn to to throw something good 0-2
by lololol on Jun 30, 2009 10:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That's a disease that many of the Yankee pitchers seem
to be suffering from this year. Inability to finish off the hitter,
by cph on Jun 30, 2009 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
3 BB's
constant bullshit on count’s he’s ahead.
He’s still a rook IMO so this is what you get. Every other start.
by FreeBradshaw on Jun 30, 2009 10:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
everytime one of our startes doesn't go seven scoreless innings
im going to start yelling that they need to go to the bullpen
by Brian5517209 on Jun 30, 2009 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but the trend from 2007 to 2008 to 2009 is not good
by cph on Jun 30, 2009 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess
2007 he was the reliever tho.
2008 you can probably attribute to him making the transition.
This is still IMO his rookie year as a starter. Its inconsistent nonetheless.
Still, you see what he can do on occasion this year. THe fact he’s done it more than a few times shows you that its not just a fluke that he has gems every now and then.
He’s made plenty of strides in taht he doesn’t have taht crappy inning anymore to start and let up 3-5 runs in the first inning.
3 R through 5 1/3 is not good, but I’ll take that from a rookie starter. Its really not like there are any other options that would do better
by FreeBradshaw on Jun 30, 2009 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just don't think he has the mental makeup to focus for
the 6 or 7 innings that a starter needs. And focus when you’ve got 2 strikes on a batter. Baseball is a lot more than physical tools. The guys who are successful are the guys who can keep their mind on what they’re doing. Joba can’t seem to do that. He’s good in the clutch, when the pressure is on, but I think his mind wanders. But what do I know?
by cph on Jun 30, 2009 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You'd be surprised on how many players are actually on that shit.
by FreeBradshaw on Jun 30, 2009 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it's not shit
it’s good stuff man
gooooooooood stuff
by Brian5517209 on Jun 30, 2009 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wait a minute...
Did the Yankees just bat?
by FreeBradshaw on Jun 30, 2009 10:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'ts great to see Hughes get a chance to pitch when it counts
and to do such a great job. He really seems to have found himself in this role.
by cph on Jun 30, 2009 10:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Needs to be just a little more agressive at the plate
I think he’s taking too many pitches. His P/PA is way up this year.
by cph on Jun 30, 2009 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Genius Joe overmanaging again
Hughes was great in the 7th – very few pitches. But Genius Joe has to go to his “8th inning guy” Bruney and there goes the game.
IT’S TIME FOR JOE TO GO!!!!!
by cph on Jun 30, 2009 10:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Taking Hughes
out of this game after one inning, the way he has been throwing, was dumb. Especially since Bruney has been iffy lately. Dumb, dumb, dumb!
by Ed Valentine on Jun 30, 2009 10:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
is it me
or does girardi over think this bullpen situation constantly. why take hughes out?? leave him in and let mo come in for the 9th. i don’t get why you need 4 pitchers for 4 innings.
by Billy D on Jun 30, 2009 10:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Girardi is just plain stupid
He misuses the bullpen; he sacrfices way too much; he doesn’t start the runners nearly enough. He is a loser.
by cph on Jun 30, 2009 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Be careful...
…if Girardi posts here, you could be warned for making a personal attack.
by New York Sports Jerk on Jun 30, 2009 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, gosh, I better take it back
I’m sorry Joe. I wonder what name he uses to post? Dumbtool?
by cph on Jun 30, 2009 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
For some reason, Girardi doesn't think any reliever other than
Aceves can go more than one inning.
by cph on Jun 30, 2009 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
WTF are u doing bruney
get him out of here
by lololol on Jun 30, 2009 10:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
girardi you suck so much
learn to use what you have you idiot
by lololol on Jun 30, 2009 11:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
c'mon
always Girardi.
Didn’t turn out good. But the roles are Hughes 7, Bruney 8.
Lets blame who ACTUALLY screwed up here, and that’s Bruney.
by FreeBradshaw on Jun 30, 2009 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hughes needs to go more than 1 inning
im not saying that because of what just happened, i was saying it when i saw Bruney warming up
by Brian5517209 on Jun 30, 2009 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed to a POiNT
Girardi mismanages the crap out of this bullpen
by I Bleed Pinstripes on Jun 30, 2009 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Roles?
Hughes was a damn starter, and has been dominant. Bruney has stunk since getting back from the DL.
That was a no-brainer, and Girardi F’d it up.
by New York Sports Jerk on Jun 30, 2009 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The roles? That's assinine
There’s no reason that a pitcher can’t go more than one inning. They don’t need roles like straightjackets. Hughes is flexible enough to go more than one, especially when he only used 9 pitches in the 7th. I blame Girardi totally for taking out Hughes. Bruney sucked, but he could have been sucking in the bullpen if Girardi weren’t so darn mechanical and stupid.
by cph on Jun 30, 2009 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No doubt
Hughes should go 3 innings to close the game out IMO.
But you want a setup man? Bruney was the savior all of a sudden for the setup role, so that’s who you bring in.
CAN Hughes go 2-3 6 innings? Hell yea!
He’s in the pen, you might need him tomorrow.
I want Bruneny NOT in the 8th spot now, as I didn’t before. Hughes is that dude for the 8th.
by FreeBradshaw on Jun 30, 2009 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Get a Life
Stop making excuses for Girardi-he made the decision to bring Bruney in – who is underperforming year to date.Its the manager who puts these guys in position to win or fail and Joe likes to fail apparently.
by ghostwalker on Jun 30, 2009 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry if I don't automatically fall in line
and blame the manager.
I aint making excuses for him. I don’t like the move either.
Its what 99% of managers make tho. So Fire him YAY!
by FreeBradshaw on Jun 30, 2009 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
First off WHY WOULD Girardi take out Hughes when he was perfect?
o yea Girardi sucks at life, bruney should NOT be the 8th inning guy coming back from injury aand throwing like he is, Hughes has below a 2ERA out of the pen
WTF GIRARDI ? YOU SUCK AT LIFE AND BEING A MANAGER
by I Bleed Pinstripes on Jun 30, 2009 11:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
A small sample, but since Bruney has come back
from the DL, he has given up 4 hits, 5 walks and 3 earned runs in 4 2/3 innings.
I think maybe he’s still hurt and not telling anyone.
by cph on Jun 30, 2009 11:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
at least baltimore's making it interesting now...
10-7 with runners on 2nd and 3rd
by mrljdavid on Jun 30, 2009 11:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
10-9 now, with runners on first and second.
Sox bullpen has given up 8 runs the last two innings, and it’s only one out in this inning.
Nice.
by mrljdavid on Jun 30, 2009 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Girardi needs to take all these mofos out to dinner tonight ON him,
they just saved his ass AGAIN
by I Bleed Pinstripes on Jun 30, 2009 11:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
btw
if we notice how dumb that move was to take out hughes, can you imagine what hughes is thinking?? he’s prob pissed as all hell, coming in and throwing 9 pitches, getting a clean inning and being pulled only to have the lead given up the next inning
by Billy D on Jun 30, 2009 11:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
And now Bruney is going to get the W
assuming that Girardi doesn’t bring in Swisher to pitch the ninth.
by cph on Jun 30, 2009 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He shouldn't....
…the official scorer can award the win to Hughes based on Bruney’s ineffectiveness.
by New York Sports Jerk on Jun 30, 2009 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
give the W to Swisher
for being such a nice guy
by Brian5517209 on Jun 30, 2009 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No he can't
He could award the win to a reliever who came in after Bruney, as long as that reliever isn’t eligible for a save, but he can’t award the win to Hughes.
by cph on Jun 30, 2009 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're right
Which makes it even worse for Hughes. He and Coke were the Yanks best pitchers tonight, and it’s Bruney who gets a win out of it.
Once again proving that wins are an overrated stat.
by New York Sports Jerk on Jun 30, 2009 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
swish
has the best numbers of any pitcher for us this year
Cano is a Pimp
by yankeechaser on Jun 30, 2009 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
gotta
love the depth of the lineup, this is what you lie to see out of the bottom three
Cano is a Pimp
by yankeechaser on Jun 30, 2009 11:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
my bad
like to see*
Cano is a Pimp
by yankeechaser on Jun 30, 2009 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Girardi Aagin
What a dumb move in a series of dumb moves by Girardi. Take out Hughes after one inning where he overwhelms the mariners. Put a tired Bruney in to get batted around.He about walked us to death in his last outing. Joe just has no brains.Hughes could have finished the game out..but not with Joe the blowhard.
by ghostwalker on Jun 30, 2009 11:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
Leave in Hughes for the 8th, he threw about 10 pitches in the 7th.
by Leviticus6688 on Jun 30, 2009 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
when he warms up again
holy crap are we going to pwn
by Brian5517209 on Jun 30, 2009 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah,
Once the RISP avg. is high…scary.
by Leviticus6688 on Jun 30, 2009 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anybody give kudos to Travis...
for using OPS as a verb in the preview??
That’s a new one my friend, and worth a hat tip.
by NumberSeven on Jun 30, 2009 11:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
and for you scoreboard watchers
PAPELBON JUST GAVE AWAY THE LEAD!!!!
11-10 orioles – it was 10-1 Sox two innings ago
by mrljdavid on Jun 30, 2009 11:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
FU Papelbon
You’re no Rivera and you never will be you stupid MFer.
by New York Sports Jerk on Jun 30, 2009 11:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i want to watch that game just to see papelbon's face when he blew it...
it’s always hilarous
by lololol on Jun 30, 2009 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm watching it...it's WICKED AWESOME
Plus he got pissy about getting squeezed and walking a guy.
by mrljdavid on Jun 30, 2009 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
unreal
mo strikes out the final batter to get his 501st save and the win 3 mins after papelbon blows it. what a great night. 2.5 games back fellas!!
by Billy D on Jun 30, 2009 11:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
don't jinx it
Sux haven’t lost yet.
by DocBrown82 on Jun 30, 2009 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, sox game not over
Let’s not count our chickens quite yet.
by cph on Jun 30, 2009 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now it's over.
Bay strikes out with 2 on.
Papelbon looks like a little kid who had his candy stolen.
by mrljdavid on Jun 30, 2009 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you're right
after i posted that i noticed it was the 8th – didn’t want to post again till it was final.
by Billy D on Jun 30, 2009 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And Mo gets it done.
Still not thrilled with the bullpen management.
by mrljdavid on Jun 30, 2009 11:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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