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New York Yankees pitcher Chien-Ming Wang delivers in the second inning against the New York Mets Sunday night.

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New York Yankees pitcher Chien-Ming Wang delivers in the second inning against the New York Mets Sunday night.

Let's look around the Yankee Universe and see what is going on -- other than celebrating Mariano Rivera's milestone 500th career save.

Wang actually wasn’t as good as he was in Atlanta on Tuesday, throwing a lot more pitches (85) than he did (62) in his last start. But he pitched into the sixth, gave up one less run than he did last time, and most important, he got the win.

I know wins are not ultimately the way to measure a pitcher’s success, but for a guy that had won 46 games in 2 ½ years, it has to mean something to get the "0" out of the first half of the win-loss column.

"I think the win is great for his confidence because everyone needs a win, no matter how good you’re pitching," Joe Girardi said. "Everyone needs fruit from their hard work."

To me, the best thing about Wang’s night was that his sinker wasn’t really very good. In fact, he was having enough trouble with it that he and Jorge Posada decided to stay away from it at times, throwing sliders and four-seam fastballs instead - and getting guys out with those pitches. Earlier in the year, they tried to force the issue with the sinker, figuring it would work itself out. Tonight? A better plan.

"When his sinker isn’t there, he has enough to go to that we can get people out," Posada said. "The sinker is his pitch, but today he didn’t have it. We can’t just throw sinkers all day if it isn’t there."

If Wang can win games when he doesn’t have that sinker, he’s going to have a great second half. If he has a great second half, the Yankees become the team to beat in the American League.

Star-divide

  • In dissecting where the Yankees and Mets stand following the Subway Series slaughter by the Yanks, the Star-Ledger makes these three points about the Yankees. 1. The top of the rotation is scary. 2. The lineup is deep. 3. They'll win the games they're supposed to win.  I don't have the exact numbers, but ESPN flashed a stat during last night's game showing that the Yankees have been the best team in baseball since Alex Rodriguez returned to the lineup. That despite the two-week slump. So, maybe we all need to relax a bit.
  • Are you still a bit concerned about Brian Bruney? He got two outs last night, but for the second time in three outings seemed to have no idea where the ball was going. I am liking the idea of Phil Hughes getting the 8th inning more and more. Of course, there could also be a Bobby Jenks option.
  • Some critics are wondering about Austin Jackson, but the guys playing with him at Scranton-Wilkes Barre think he can become a special player. Here is Eric Duncan.

"A.J. is as good of a prospect I've ever seen as far as hearing the hype and everything like that," Duncan said. "I'd never played with him, I'd just heard about him, and he's one of the best. Off the field, his work ethic and maturity you don't find in many 22 year olds. He's been more than impressive.

"People like to find flaws, people like to find things that are wrong so that if he does slip up, they can say, 'I told you so.' The fact of the matter is, A.J. is tearing up this league and he's going to keep doing it because he's that good and he works that hard. He's got the ability to do it and he's got the work ethic, and he's not going to slow down because of it. He's meeting and exceeding all of my expectations."

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If Wang get passed the 5th....

Then he is still kinda useless!

by fob22 on Jun 29, 2009 1:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Eric Duncan?

wow talk about failed prospects?

I heard about that Phillies rumor too, that must be squashed (unless they want to part with JA Happ an John Mayberry…..and Jimmiy Rollins.)

Wang did NOT look normal yesterday. Sinker was up, and merely floated down and to the right. But I think he needs to be given credit for battling through it. I know the Mets are a shell of themselves, but this Yankee team lost to the Natinals and Marlins, so a win will always be a win.

The late movement is still not there, that darting sinker is not there either.

He is getting the slider across, and its quite devastating when he does. If this is the way his sinker’s gonna remain, he also needs to figue out how to throw that changeup for more strikes. He looked OK, but still he looks like he’s 80% the old Wang.

I still hate IL from what it did to CMW cuz he’s just still not the same.

by FreeBradshaw on Jun 29, 2009 1:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Duncan

I would be inclined to trust his assessment of prospects- because he certainly has seen his share of them come and go while he himself has been toiling in the minors.

by NumberSeven on Jun 29, 2009 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

His sinker will come

It is such a “feel” pitch. We just have to accept he MIGHT win 10 games if he is lucky this season. But I think you keep throwing him out there and have Eiland (rolls eyes) try and get his mechanics back to speed. His velocity is returning nicely. His sinker was better last game, which just means he needs to get those mechanics back to automatic. He is lucky he was facing the AA Mets, some of those pitches would have been shellacked.

by HappyLuckyGoldenDragonNumber1! on Jun 29, 2009 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Let's just calm down

While it’s true last night was Wang’s best outing of the season, let’s not forget that the lineup he was facing wasn’t exactly Murderer’s Row.

Yes, he did manage to pitch his way through trouble, but he was wild and you can’t get away with walking guys like Alex Cora ahead of the middle of most lineups. Thankfully, David Wright can’t lay off a slider in the dirt.

Wang is still a work in progress, we’ll see how he fares against the middle of an actual major league lineup.

by New York Sports Jerk on Jun 29, 2009 1:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

indeed.....

like I posted before,this was a depleted Mets lineup. he throws against Toronto next which is Top 10 in the AL in avg and runs scored…..that should be a better test.

by ReggieARodJeter on Jun 29, 2009 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree

CMW didn’t have his best stuff last night. The movement on his sinker wasn’t very sharp BUT this start was a move in the right direction. His GB/FB ratio was very good at 12/3 with no LDs allowed.

His slider looked very effective esp. as a viable offspeed pitch to a FB that showed good early velocity. I’m hopefull, despite the much-beleagured Met lineup, that CMW could be effective the rest of the way.

by Vincent Caramela on Jun 29, 2009 2:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Still a question

Until Wang faces a decent AL lineup he is a question mark. Right now he is pitching like a good 5th starter (which is much better than where he was two months ago). If CC and Burnett pitch like they have recently, then this is probably enough for the Yankees to win 95 games. Any slippage at the top of the rotation though and the Yankees will need more from Wang.

by stusviews on Jun 29, 2009 2:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It was decent performance

  A win is a win. He is back on track, he needs to throw inside more, mix up the pitches. Hughes should be the set up guy for Rivera, Bruney could not find the strike zone and he is over rated. Cano needs to deliver in the clutch more especially with A-rod history of chokes.

by bcw420 on Jun 29, 2009 5:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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