Now what?
Another day, another disappointing loss.
I know that Jeter was thinking Lindstrom would groove the first pitch since he had just walked a batter, but if you're going to swing at the first pitch, make sure it's a good one.
There's a lot of blame to go around, but most of it should fall on Brett Tomko. He failed in his job to keep Florida in check. Three runs in two innings is not doing your job.
Melky Cabrera uncorked a throw that allowed an extra run to score. A better throw there and the Yanks tie the game in the ninth.
Robbie Cano went 0-4. David Robertson was very good overall, but hung a curveball at the worst possible time, resulting in Melky's poor throw.
Al Aceves pitched great in relief (2.2 ip, 0 r, 1 h, 2 k, 0 bb). Should he have gone another inning? Perhaps, but it's easy to say that now.
On top of all that, our ace, CC Sabathia, had to leave the game in the second inning with 'left biceps tightness.'
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brett tomko
he hasnt been that impressive of late. his era is high and hes just not pitching well in tough situations ever since that philly game.
by jeter751 on Jun 21, 2009 9:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Tomko
needs to be DFA in favor of Mark Melancon
by Lord Duggan on Jun 21, 2009 10:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Not a big Tomko or Coke fan but ....
It seems like they pitch every day along with Aceves. I am starting to get Tanyon Sturtze/Scott Proctor flashbacks. After the first HR Tomko needed to come out, and Aceves shouldve been left in another inning. Dont even get me started on the Teflon SS.
by YankeesJets on Jun 21, 2009 10:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Tomko hadn't thrown
since 1 ip two days ago, so asking him to go 2, especially since he’s a longman, and the starter exited as early as he did, is perfectly reasonable.
but he is definitely next in line for demotion. Alby and Melancon are the most likely candidates to replace him. Alby’s got a 1.46 ERA in 12.1 ip down there. MM’s got a 2.48 ERA in 29 ip.
by Travis G on Jun 21, 2009 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not Alby again
The only thing I will give Tomko, at least he gave up a HR to one of the better players in baseball. Lately the Yankees have been getting beat by guys like Carlos Ruiz. If my team is gonna lose, I can deal with losing against a great hitter as opposed to journeymen. I have seen enough of Alby, I hope he doesnt come back up.
by YankeesJets on Jun 21, 2009 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Where was Hughes?
I don’t get the Yankee games here in Minnesota their cable system doesn’t carry YES.
Why didn’t Girardi bring in Hughes? Wouldn’t that have made more sense than Tomko?
Unless Hughes Had already pitched in the series?
chandler knight
by ae2cdk on Jun 21, 2009 10:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hughes
He pitched an inning yesterday. I am totaly with Girardi on being cautious with him. Aceves shouldve went another inning and Tomko shouldve been yanked after the Ramirez HR. And Jeter should be…. I’m gonna be nice.
by YankeesJets on Jun 21, 2009 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he pitched yesterday
and i was thinking: he’s kinda become the ‘one, late inning’ trusted reliever guy. then i remembered Bruney/Coke have that role. and with the off day tomorrow, yeah, they probably could’ve used Phil.
by Travis G on Jun 21, 2009 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Very frustrating
week. I mean you play the Nationals and the Marlins, you think that you should win both series.
Especially frustrating that damn near all of them were 1 run games, and even more so in the fact that they could have at least tied in the 9th in every game.
I don’t know who said it, but Im sure everyone remembers when the team was constantly winning games in the 9th inning, comeback kids right? Well this week shows you playing like that bites you right in the arse. Its nice when you win, whip cream pies to the face and everything. But when you lose…..
I like comeback wins too, but Id rather the wins be like Andy Pettite’s game.
Tough to place blame if you have to, tho Im sure many Yankee fans and of course the media LOVE to do so.
Jetes has 2 tough games. Is he at fault…yea. Is the rest of the team more at fault for either not coming through earlier or as in Tomko’s case giving up too many runs? THat too.
This team needs a nice long streak of wins after this. You need to take care of business against these teams, cuz if you’re a Marlins, Nationals or of course Sux fan you have to be loving this.
by FreeBradshaw on Jun 21, 2009 10:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Stop finding excuses for Jeter
Every time he comes up, its always a DP ball unless there is 2 outs. Why do u think Joe bats him leadoff? This guy could go on an OJ like killing spree and it would be okay cause he was a piece of the puzzle on championship teams 10 years ago. Most overpaid player in the game.
by YankeesJets on Jun 21, 2009 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow
Shouldn’t you bet MetsJets fan?
by HappyLuckyGoldenDragonNumber1! on Jun 21, 2009 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sox fans might put J. Lugo at the top of the overpaid list, but Jetes is right up there.
"Man, you are one pathetic loser. No offense." - Lloyd Christmas
by Lloyd Christmas on Jun 22, 2009 2:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
CC
not really as concerned about the game as i am about CC. we can’t afford to lose him.
by theintz on Jun 21, 2009 10:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Lose CC?
Why we got Wang, and he won 19 games 2 years ago. Remember being a Yankee fan means we have to live in the past. Note sarcasm.
by YankeesJets on Jun 21, 2009 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess as a Jets fan
its hard to live in the past. But yea, most Yankee fans respect the players, especially those who have done what they did for this team in the past.
And why the FK do you act like Jetes is the problem? 2 tough spots and he didn’t come through. 2 AB’s don’t a season make.
The guy’s been as good as he’s ever been, now after 2 games he’s the problem.
Give me a FKin break with this idiotic criticism.
The team isn’t clicking. Not just Jeter, not just Cano, Not just A-rod, the whole team.
This happens. It happened in 98, it happened in 96, its happening now. Sorry if you don’t remember THE PAST
But this SHT happened in the past too. Not only did these guys execute in teh past, BUT THEY FAILED IN THE PAST!!
Stop living and dieing by each game. Its a long season.
If you look at this week, it sucked. So did last week.
But a true fan will say FK it what’s done is done lets go win em all this week. Not lets fire this one, or trade this one, or bench this one.
Lets make up for it this week. You don’t think like that? Well there’s 2 team’s in NY and you’re more then welcome to root against the Yanks cuz it seems like you’re doing it now anyway.
by FreeBradshaw on Jun 22, 2009 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
thanks
Thanks for the answer on Hughes. I agree on not over using him so i understand why Joe used the pitchers he did. thanks guys
chandler knight
by ae2cdk on Jun 21, 2009 10:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Another person
who drives me F-in crazy is Cano!! He should be fined everytime he swings at the 1st or 2nd pitch! It’s like he doesn’t care. The beginning of the year he SEEMED as though he was becoming a true hitter now he just swings away. I am so SICK of him!!
I don’t care what Jeter did in the past because the past is just that…the past! What have you done for this team lately! That’s why Joe Torre was sent packing because he wasn’t performing today. Jeter needs to get his shat together or he needs to get his 3000 hits or break whatever records he will break somewhere else. Yes..I said it and that’s the way I feel.
by Mondoas on Jun 21, 2009 11:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This is the deal...
This team is built around the BIG HIT guys. They lack players who just flat out move people over, and just hit the ball. It’s always about waiting for a blowout or needing the bloop and a blast kind of win. That’s not the players faults, they are who they are. It’s the GM and managers fault. Well, of course some blame goes to the players…..they COULD practice bunting…
Other than that…the Yankee bullpen is still messed up and the SPs are inconstant.
If they don’t work this out….well, it’ll be a frustrating season.
by Ragnar808 on Jun 21, 2009 11:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If it doesn't work out
The coaching staff is bye-bye
by HappyLuckyGoldenDragonNumber1! on Jun 21, 2009 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Time
to get a new Hitting Coach, Pitching Coach, and bye bye Girardi.. Give Tony Pena the manager position.. the way they are playing now lets say good bye to the post season…
by YANK77 on Jun 22, 2009 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Getting ahead of Ourselves a bit
One bad week doesnt mean no playoffs and everyone should be fired. I was pissed off earlier too but there is alot of season to go.
by YankeesJets on Jun 22, 2009 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
one bad week
ohh so 2 weeks ago against the Redsox doesnt count ?? and last week against the Nationals doesn’t either. Ohh they should have lost two games to the Mets if it wasn’t for Castillo flop, and you are saying this team is ok. There is alot of season to go but something is clearly wrong.. if they keep playing like this it wont matter.
by YANK77 on Jun 22, 2009 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lot of season to go
Sure is. Works both ways. Lot of season to get the ship steered right or a lot of season left to chug into the iceberg. I prefer the former, but the Yankees NEED to be winning against these teams. There is very little room for error. This season we are seeing the best Sox team I have seen in awhile, a reinvigorated Rays team of late and a talented if not young Jays team. This ain’t a two pony race anymore.
by HappyLuckyGoldenDragonNumber1! on Jun 22, 2009 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The problem is J-E-T-E-R?
Wow. Batting over 300 and right up there with league leaders at SS in HR’s, SB’s and RBI’s — yet HE’s the problem?
C’mon. No one is saying he’s the player he used to be — but he’s still in the upper echelon.
Going 2-5 against the Mets and Sox and thinking its wound lickin’ time v. the Nats and Fish — only to lose both series — with A-rod benched at .2twenty chumpchange while the Sox are starting to disappear over the horizon…
Now THAT’s a problem.
by rosebud on Jun 22, 2009 12:21 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Jeter
He isnt the only problem but he is a big part of it. ARod isnt performing to his capabilities but he is coming off surgery so he should get a little break. How many games has Jeter killed the Yanks with DPs in big spots?
by YankeesJets on Jun 22, 2009 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Frankly -- less than A-Rod -- or Cano.
Sorry. I take that back. Cano usually strikes out in the clutch.
Of course its been frustrating lately — but Jeter still has more clutch hits this year than DP’s — despite what it feels like right now. He is far from done — or “the problem”. Also — if you are enjoying the new stadium — good.
He built it.
by rosebud on Jun 22, 2009 12:46 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Jeter Built The Stadium?
I love how guys like O’Neill, Martinez, Bernie, Brosius, Pettitte, Cone, Wells, El Duque, Clemens, and Mo dont get any credit for it. Jeter’s always the guy.
by YankeesJets on Jun 22, 2009 12:59 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Give 'em all credit
Love all those guys. But Jeter is the icon. The face of the team. My point is simply there is a world of problems with this team — and if you are going to list all of them — Jeter’s name is waaaaaay down the list.
In my opinion, I think this team lacks heart — and an honest sense of knowing itself and what it means to be a winner. There is no way that affliction belongs to Derek Jeter.
by rosebud on Jun 22, 2009 1:06 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Jeter gets more recognition than he deserves
Is he a good player? Yes. Is he a good captain? I dont think so. Posada and Pettite are better leaders. Just like ARod argued in the GC article, when has Jeter ever carried this team? Yet Jeter always gets a pass and its getting old.
by YankeesJets on Jun 22, 2009 1:12 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Staring Pitchers are not Cap'ns...
and Jeter not only pre-dates Posada but Posada also has a tendency to get under the skin of some of his pitchers. Which doesn’t mean he couldn’t be captain — he certainly could — but not when Jeter is also on the team. Maybe Co-Captain if you want — okay with me.
Look — simply put — I’m not worshiping Jeter — just saying he is F-A-R from the problem with the ‘09 Yanks. BTW — if you remember the April long slump (and the boos) he went through a few years back you’ll know he doesn’t always get a pass.
Why u hatin? Clearly Jeter is not perfect — but the cause?
by rosebud on Jun 22, 2009 1:21 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You must not be a Yankee fan for long
Ron Guidry, a pitcher, was a co- captain with Willie Randolph.
by YankeesJets on Jun 22, 2009 1:24 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah -- Co-Cap'n
Because a Captain is an everyday player. Unless you were suggesting Andy and Posada as Co-captain’s to replace Jeter? THAT would make this team better?
We are straying. What’s with you and Jeter? If everyone were playing like Jete and Tex do you think we’d be heading south instead of north? Seriously. You think Derek Jeter is the problem with this team? Like — just start Peña and be done with it?
I’m scrathcin my head here. You are rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic if you think Jete is problem.
by rosebud on Jun 22, 2009 1:38 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Jeter is not only problem
But I am tired of him being absolved of the blame while ARod is getting buried for getting with Kate Hudson. I am not saying to replace Jeter or take away his captaincy, how about moving him down the order so he doesnt come up in key spots. How bout teaching him how to bunt in key situations. Not bunting for a hit, but to move over the runners.
by YankeesJets on Jun 22, 2009 2:12 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm stunned about the lack of small ball
They have to have guys like Gardner and Cabrera bunt more often. Not just to move runners over but to try and get on base. Gardner runs like the wind and if he knew how to bunt well he could get 15-20 hits a year on bunts, or at least get on base by making the fielder have to rush his play and throw the ball away. People don’t realize that small ball leads to big ball. Jeter hit into a DP in the 8th on Saurday with 1st and 2nd and no outs. They were down by a run and usually you play to win on the road. I think Damon was up next and it would’ve been lefty against lefty so I understand Girardi’s thinking but in that instance you’ve gotta bunt the runner over in that instance. Jeter has lost some bat speed. They are beating him with good heat (93 and up) right down the middle of the plate and tieing him up big time. That’s not something that can be fixed unless he alters his swing or starts using a lighter bat. Yesterday Cano is up in the 9th with 1 out and he’s ahead in the count 1-0. The team is losing 6-3 and you need baserunners. LIndstrom is wild at times and the scouting report they shared with the players surely made mention of that. So what does Cano do? He swings at the next pitch and makes an out. Proof that you cannot teach patience. Some players get it and some don’t. Soriano never got it when he was here and still does not get it now. Soriano by the way is the leadoff hitter for the Cubs and his OBP is LOWER than .300!!!! Last year Cano’s OBP was lower than .300. This year it’s fine but the flaws in his game are just exasperating at times. There was once a time in baseball where if the players were doing something wrong and it was glaring the front office would not suggest they stop doing it. They would tell them to either work out the flaw and soon or you’re gonna be benched or sat down. It’s too bad things have changed to the point that the Manager or GM can’t be more forceful in dealing with players physical deficiencies. If they are not eliminated at a young age they won’t go away and the player never changes.
by chambliss76 on Jun 22, 2009 8:04 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
But one more thing...
A-Rod is getting “buried” for Kate Hudson because he’s batting .212. If he were batting .312 we’d be driving Kate Hudson to his house. (If he’d bat .390 I’d drive my wife to his house — but then he’d probly start slumping again….)
I never said that.
by rosebud on Jun 22, 2009 10:40 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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