Around the Yankee Universe: Pedro ... and Papelbon?
Pedro Martinez and Jonathan Papebon as New York Yankees? I am not sure if Red Sox fans or Yankee fans would have a harder time digesting that.
As was mentioned in a recent comment, the Yankees are one of a handful of teams who will scout Martinez on Friday.
More interesting, or maybe stomach-turning depending on your point of view, is what Papelbon said on Sirius XM radio when asked if he could wear pinstripes one day.
"Oh, of course. I mean, I think if we can’t come to an agreement on terms here in a Red Sox uniform, I mean, I think that’s pretty much the writing on the wall. If they can’t come to terms with you they’re letting you know that, ‘Hey you know what? We can go somewhere else.’ And I think it’s the same way on the other side, ‘Hey if ya’ll can’t come to an agreement with me then I can go somewhere else.’ Not only in the Bronx, but anywhere. I think anywhere is a possibility. You always have to keep that in the back of your mind because you can’t just be one-sided and think that, ‘Oh I’m going to be in a Red Sox uniform my entire career.’ Because nowadays that is very, very rare and hopefully we can because there’s no question I would love to stay in a Boston Red Sox uniform but I have to do what’s best for me and play in an atmosphere where I’m wanted and play on a team where I’m wanted and that’s all I can really say about that, you know?"
That might just be posturing by Papelbon, since it is the absolute worst-case scenario for Boston. Interesting to think about, though, since Mariano Rivera will likely be retired by the time Papelbon is a free agent after the 2011 season.
As for Pedro, the Yanks don't need another five-inning starting pitcher. They have plenty of those right now. What they need is for the guys they have to start pitching the way they were expected to.
(NOTE: I'm asking nicely that you go easy on the vile nicknames for Papelbon is the comments. Please.)
Let's look at some other stories making news around the Yankee Universe today.
- YES broadcaster Michael Kay said over and over and over during the game that the umpires were responsible for the five-hour and 26-minute rain delay, and that fans should not blame the Yankees. Well ...
The call on whether to play or not rested with the Yankees.
"I was in the loop at all times," New York manager Joe Girardi said. "When we were supposed to start and couldn’t, at 2, 3, 4 or 5, all of those times."
Said umpire crew chief Charlie Reliford: "It was their decision entirely. I had no input whatsoever."
Memo to Kay. Use that big space between your ears for something other than ego, and get some facts before you go off saying stuff that isn't true.
- The Yankees did try to do right by the fans who stayed, inviting them to move into better seats (except for the Legends Suite ones, of course) and offering them free tickets to a future game.
- Brett Gardner says he is OK after Thursday's ugly crash into the left-center field wall. Oh, and Johnny Damon says you can add the incredibly hard plexiglas Gardner crashed into to the list of concerns about the new Stadium.
- Haven't seen this mentioned anywhere, but Thursday was the first homerless game of the 35 played at the new Stadium. No idea what it means, but the pace of home runs has slowed a bit. At the current rate, 273 would be hit this season at the Stadium, safely off the record 303 hit at Coors Field in 1999.
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Pedro and Papelbon
Pedro could probably get guys out if you put him in the bullpen but he hasn’t been a reliable starter in a long time and I would hate to see him taking starts away from Hughes or worse yet Joba. I’m sure some team will give him the opportunity to start and that’s where he’ll go.
As for Papelbon he’d be a natural replacement for Mo since the Red Sox don’t seem to get into bidding wars to keep their guys, and he’s pitched well on the big stage. The guy I really like as a Mo successor, though is Joakim Soria who is younger and, I think, better. He won’t be a free agent by 2011 but he’ll be into his arbitration years and I think with the extra years left on his arm (most closers don’t last 15 years like Mo) he’d be worth overpaying for via trade.
by Let's Talk About Tex Baby on Jun 19, 2009 9:31 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Soria
Intersting thought. I didn’t know this, but I heard the other day that the Yankees really wanted to grab Soria, I think as a Rule 5 guy, but the Royals picked ahead of the Yankees and grabbed him.
by Ed Valentine on Jun 19, 2009 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can't Really Predict
With the exception of the great Mariano Rivera and Trevor Hoffman, there really haven’t been many closers that have been able to be consistent. I don’t think there’s any way that we can predict for 2011 right now. I would think that Soria is a better bet than Papelbum however. Papelbum has allowed WAY too many base runners so far this year.
by Lord Duggan on Jun 19, 2009 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I cringe and shudder @ the thought of............
Jonathan Applebutter in pinstripes………by 2011 they’ll probably still have Justin from Nebraska still in the rotation averaging 5 1/3 a start.
by ReggieARodJeter on Jun 19, 2009 9:34 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Papelbon
It’s all about the Benjamins. Most, if not all of these guys will play for their “hated rival”, if their contract is up and their current team isn’t giving them enough “respect”.
Which leads to the biggest contract question on the Yankees horizon. Jeter’s contract is up in 2011 also. He will be 35 next week. What to you offer the face of the franchise at the age of 37? Especially if Pena continues to develope as a hitter, we all know he can pick it. Did a beatiful job on that short hop throw from Cerevelli on the steal attempt last night.
by fredny on Jun 19, 2009 9:56 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
First of all
Papelbon will be finished as a dominant closer by 2011. He’s already showing signs of wearing down.
He’s not Mariano Rivera, if he was smart he’d take a contract extension from the Red Sox now because it’s possible there won’t be any money out there for him in 2011.
by New York Sports Jerk on Jun 19, 2009 10:21 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i don't know about finished...
…but i hear what you’re saying.
by NumberSeven on Jun 19, 2009 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no way
I would lose all respect for the Yanks if they went and got either of these guys. They’re numbers 2 and 3 for me for most hated Red Sox, besides Curt Schilling.
by Jon F on Jun 19, 2009 12:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Curt
There really is no way that anyone can compete with Curt Schilling though is there. I just remember when he was going to make 55,000 people in New York “shut up” and then he gave up 7 runs in 3 innings.
by Lord Duggan on Jun 19, 2009 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If I shut
my eyes and pretend that the thought of Papelbon in pinstripes isn’t real, will it help?
Why do rumors of the most hated players by Yankee fans keep popping up? Pedro…Manny…
I think its time for Cashman to create established excommunications from the Yankee Universe.
by jmappelbaum on Jun 19, 2009 2:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Makes sense, but Rivera might not be done
Fans may hate the idea of Papelbon in pinstripes, but that’s because they see the rivalry from the outside. As players, both teams groove on the simple fact that it is the best rivalry in sports, and that being either a Yankee or a Red Sox player means that you get 18 regular season games a year with more playoff energy than some real playoff games. You cannot find, in professional sports, anything else like that.
Here is the thing about Mariano Rivera – sure, it makes sense that he would be done by 42. But the really unusual thing about Rivera, who has proven himself to be one of the dominant pitchers of his time, is that he took up pitching late in his development as a player. Because he was not throwing pitches competitively during most of his teen years, he is one guy who might easily roll on to his mid-forties.
by Michael A. Shea on Jun 19, 2009 3:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That's very true
Papelbon has been only a closer in all his short career, it’s all he knows. Mo has played all positions and has a better understanding of the game.
by spiritcrusher on Jun 19, 2009 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't want Papelbon
not simply cuz he’s a Red Sux, but actually cuz he’s really not all that good. He’s been dominant at times, but too many times you see him walk guys and get into trouble.
As for Pedro, I really don’t think the Yankees look at him for a rotation spot. I do think Pedro has said he’d be OK with being a reliever.
I’d have no problem putting Pedro in the bullpen.
by FreeBradshaw on Jun 19, 2009 3:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm thinking K-ROD
I posted a comment in another blog the other day about how cool it would be to have Pedro and how much I despised Papelpunk and now this?? anyway, I’ve been thinking for a while that the one and only fit candidate to fill Mariano’s position would be Francisco Rodriguez of the Mets. I think is very interesting how he signed only a 3 year contract , like knowing that the Yanks would need to replace Mo around that time and that Hank will be an open wallet when it comes to signing a top-notch closer. They do have very large shoes to fill up when Mo retires and I don’t think Papelpunk would be the answer. He’s indeed overrated and probably knows by now hat having a world series ring doesn’t guarantee anything monetarily-wise from the Sux ownership (look what happened with Johnny Damon) they have (and will) always try to wind championships on a budget, no wonder they only have three in a hundred years with two of them with and asterisk thanks to Manny.
by spiritcrusher on Jun 19, 2009 7:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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