Don't blame Joba

but hey, we’re gonna get Pedro Martinez.
that will solve everything

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=AviSklOKnZx8DsnQL9.uXC45nYcB?slug=ge-pedroyankees061809&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

I’ve been a Yankee fan since 1972. So I’ve seen some great success for the Bombers and some average (and horrible) teams.

This is probably the most disgusted I’ve felt towards this team ever. Nine years of signing fat-cat free agents to multi-year, guaranteed, no-trade contracts. Nine years of no bullpen or clutch hitting or anyone who has the capability or willingness to bunt or field.

Bullpen was fantastic last season. Yankees cannot string hits together consistently. We are fielding well this season, at least in the infield. Our rotation has not pitched deep, often enough. They walk alot but also don’t capitalize on the walks anywhere near enough. Girardi makes some bone headed decisions. For someone who preaches small ball he practices long ball.

(followed it online)

were there boos at the end?

I’m getting tired of hearing about how tough it is to hit a guy you’ve never seen before. Tonight’s Nat’s pitcher had a pitch count of 62 after 6 innings. And he threw many fastballs, of which perhaps 8 or 9 hit 90 (exactly 90). Now either he was really locating well or the Yanks simply sucked horsecock. This is 2 games in a row where the opposing pitcher had ULTRA-LOW pitch counts deep into the game. They did the right thing taking him out after he gave up the double to Swisher which put runners on first and third, and it showed how seriously the Nats were taking this game, cause his pitch count then was 82. They were managing like it was the WS,which I suppose for them it was. Travis G writes that the yankees have perhaps the best assortment of hitters in the majors. Travis G is wrong. I think the Yanks walked 2 times today and 3 times yesterday maybe. If anyone thinks the Yanks have a better lineup than the Red Sox they are out of their skulls. The Yanks are currently 2nd in the majors in runs scored but they are prone to hitting slumps which rarely if ever affect Boston. If Boston gets shut down it’s usually cause the opposing pitcher was very good. That’s often not the case with the Yankees. Matsui is terrible now, but he is almost a cripple since his knees are both surgically repaired. Rodriguez is so far removed from what he was when he was at his best with the Mariners, that is hitting to ALL fields, and he’s still late on good heat. Until he heals up a little and shakes off the rust it’s gonna be hot and cold with him. Posada is 38 and his bat has slowed down. The same is true for Jeter and Damon. Swisher walks a lot but he’s struck out 57 times in in about 170 AB’s. That’s not good. Cano’s good but not selective and Cabrera can’t hit lefties consistently or drive the ball enough against righties. If Nady could come back healthy it would be a BIG lift. When everyone on the team, or even 3 or 4 guys, are in top form this is a great lineup, as good as anyone’s. But there are a few problems separating us from attaining that form on a continuous basis, and they are things that are either health related (could possibly be remedied) or age-related (cannot be remedied). Those factors make a trade almost imperative. No matter how good we’ve looked at times, or even taking into consideration we’re 2nd in the bigs in runs scored, the offense is much more of a hit or miss proposition than most fans might think.

The memory of Pedro from the red sux is kind of distant now, a lot of water has gone under the bridge by now I would not have a problem welcoming him into our bullpen, the one red sux player that I do despise is Papelbon he’s a real punk and after b*tching that he should be the closer of the all-star and not Mariano, he’s atop of my hatelist of overrated crybabies. Bottom line is, the Yankees for the last 9 years, still don’t know how to play small ball, happened with Torre and still goes on with Girardi, they’re always waiting for the big hit the big shot over the fence…last night they had A-fraud standing on first like a sitting duck instead of trying ot steal second…there’s nothing wrond with a sac bunt….
I’d drop Arod to 6th or 7th until he improves(like they did to big papi) and cant wait for Nady to come back so he can replace that chum called Swisher.
now that Wang is back (kind of) I’d send Joba straight to the bullpen and bring Hughes back as a starter.

I take losing to the red sux 0-8 ten fold before losing a series to the worst team of the majors, we’re the worst team on the league as of tonight…I wish the rained hadn’t let up.

I’m as disgusted as the next guy to lose 2 of 3 to the Nationals, but this is a simple offensive slump, which all teams even the great 90’s teams have. It’s not Girardi’s fault that A-Rod is hitting .212 any more than it is Cashman’s and while he’s made some odd moves lately he does not deserve to be fired.

The reason this team is only 8 games over .500 so far is starting pitching. It’s not the offense which has been pretty clutch for the most part this year. It’s not the bullpen which looks pretty good now that the main culprits from the early season have basically been weeded out. We have 6 of what I’d consider quality relievers right now in Mo, Bruney, Aceves, Hughes, Robertson and Coke. Unfortunately since relief pitchers are so up and down year to year it takes until June for a manager to really figure out who should be pitching meaningful innings and who shouldn’t. I expect the bullpen to be more of a strength than a weakness from here on in.

But back to the rotation. C.C. has been good but unspectacular. Burnett and Pettitte have been bad. Wang has been atrocious. Joba has been basically what a realistic person should have expected this year, only he was supposed to be the Yankees #5, not their #2 as it has turned out. The Yankees’ success is going to be determined based on whether or not Burnett, Wang and to a lesser extent Pettitte get it turned out. There isn’t much the manager or GM can do about it.

…what’s the positive spin on this one?

Joba threw another 100 pitches to get 18 outs, and the bats were silent yet again.

It is inexcusable to lose 2 of 3 to the worst team in the league. You can call it a slump, call it whatever you want, INEXCUSABLE.

It’s one thing to not be able to beat the Red Sox, but losing a series to the Nationals is pathetic.

I all for signing pedro…pay him whatever,,, and then make hand him a toilet bowl brush and tell him to clean toilets like the worthless piece of garbage he is. Can we really be thinking about hiring a man who threw an elderly scion of baseball AND our bench coach to the ground??? This will be a new low point in winning over class in sports.

Quit the pedro talks, were not geting him. Our pitching is coming around. I see us having the best staff second half.

Our Offense was pathetic tonight. Ill give some credit to Lannan last night, but today this pitcher was pathetic and we got humiliated.

Im all for some change in management. We need to show our players and fans that we are serious about winning this year. It seems to me that we always come out of the game flatfooted and never seem to score until late into the game where we are already down.

A-rod is playing like junk. I dont care if he is still not healed from his surgery. If im not mistaken, chase utley had the same surgery and he is playing great.

Now Lannan on Wednesday, I can deal with, because he is a good pitcher ( on a horrible team) Yesterday, a nobody, with almost a 6 ERA and as has been stated above, 19 outs on 82 pitches, just stones them. Most of the outs were routine too. This is a soft team, and now the pitchers have to hit for the next 9 games. It will be interesting to see where they are after the Subway Series is over. They are a +1 for the month of June so far, and that includes the Castillo gift and the aberration ( pounding Johan Santana) with the Mets.

We had to string together a pair of wins eventually.

I wish the Nats had the same record as the Yankees. That would be a stellar season for us.

  I know pitching is what wins championship but this is ridiculous, you need clutch hitting as well. The pitchers have done their job when they keep the opposition to 2-3 runs. It is up to the hitter to manufacture runs to win. You can’t expect the pitchers to put up zeros every inning.