Yanks need Wang to pitch well
We all know tonight is a make-or-break start for Chien-Ming Wang. Pitch well, stay in the rotation. Pitch poorly, see ya! It's back to the bullpen while Phil Hughes returns to the rotation.
I think you have to root for Wang to rediscover the form that made him one of the American League's best pitchers for 21/2 seasons. No matter whether you think Hughes belongs in the rotation, at AAA or right where he is, the best-case scenario for the Yankees is to have Wang pitching effectively in the rotation.
Starting pitching was supposed to be a strength for the Yankees after they spent all that money on CC Sabathia, A.J. Burnett and Andy Pettitte. Yet, the Yankees have the fourth-worst ERA in baseball (4.81). The high-priced starting rotation has pitched to an even higher 4.86 ERA.
Wang, of course has been a huge part of that. He has been historically inept with his 14.34 ERA and 2.67 WHIP. So bad in fact that his career ERA is now 4.14 and his career WHIP is 1.34. That despite never pitching to an ERA higher than 4.07 or a WHIP higher than 1.32 prior to this season.
When you look for how this Yankee rotation can make dramatic improvement the rest of the 2009 season, Wang holds the key.
Entering the season, arguably Wang would have been looked at as the No. 2 starter. Some might argue that would be Burnett, but it doesn't really matter. Either way, he was expected to be part of a dominant big three.
Let's get away from CMW and look at the rest of the Yankee starters for a minute. I will leave Sabathia out of this, since he is clearly as advertised.
- Burnett (5-3, 4.46): He has been up and down, absolutely dominant in some games and absolutely awful in others. Look past his career season in 2008 and this is a lot closer to the pitcher Burnett has been throughout his career. He should be a little better the rest of the way, but it's pretty much what you see is what you get.
- Pettitte (6-3, 4.52 ERA, 1.59 WHIP): That's a ridiculously high WHIP, easily the highest of Pettitte's career. We all want to believe Pettitte is better than this, but how much? He hasn't posted a WHIP below 1.41 since 2005, and at this point in his career he is pretty much an average pitcher.
- Joba Chamberlain (3-1, 3.84): A little bit like Burnett, Joba has been awesome at times and awful at times. Sometimes within the same game. He will remain a starter unless he hits his innings limit later this season, and he is en route to being a very good one. But, is it fair to expect dominance every five days from a 23-year-old in his first full season of starting at the big-league level? No matter how good his stuff is, I think not.
- Phil Hughes (3-2, 5.13): We have to include him in this conversation. Much like Chamberlain, Hughes is still learning his craft. We all love the arm, we all love the makeup and we love the potential. We have seen flashes of brilliance. But, should Hughes, 22, return to the rotation can we expect him to morph into a dominant front-of-the-rotation guy right away? As with Chamberlain, I think not.
All of that brings us back to Wang. The guy has been an ace, he went 46-15 over a 21/2-year period, he's still just 29 and last week he showed he can still throw 94-95 miles per hour.
The Yankees have not gotten the kind of consistent, dominant starting pitching they expected thus far in 2009. Their best chance of getting it the rest of the way is for Wang to find the form that once made him one of the game's best pitchers, instead of one of its historically worst.
So, tonight is a huge night. I'm rooting for CMW to be dominant.
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I agree Ed. They have set him up in as good a spot as they can. Most of the bullpen got 2 full days off, they are facing the worst team in baseball ( although offensively potent) at home. It would certainly make the rest of the season smoother if Wang became the Wang of 2006, 2007. I think telling him he needs to step it up or else was a good idea. It’s mid-June, how much longer can you wait for him to figure it out. Is he becoming a modern day Steve Blass? If he blows up tonight, he has only himself to blame. I’m hoping for 6 solid innings, and handing over a decent lead to the bullpen.
by fredny on Jun 17, 2009 9:49 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I AGREE
100%. CMW has to be the man, starting tonight.
by jimwarren on Jun 17, 2009 9:58 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If he is still hitting 95, its gotta be a mental thing. Lets hope someone can get through to this guy and CMW gets his confidence back against the Nats.
by ryanwk628 on Jun 17, 2009 10:04 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Confidence
Right now, I think that’s what he needs most. He needs somebody to make a play or two behind him. He needs one of those ground balls to become a key double play instead of a dribbler through the infield to give up a run, or somebody to make a really nice play to bail him out of a jam. Last start he was wild, but if Swisher helps him out and Bay’s grounder finds a glove things are a lot different.
by Ed Valentine on Jun 17, 2009 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If my aunt...
…had balls, she’d be my uncle.
Wang has given up 5 home runs and walked 12 batters in just over 21 innings. You can talk all you want about people not making plays behind him and a few bleeders getting through the infield, but that doesn’t hurt nearly as much if you’re not wild.
And fielding suffers when a pitcher is all over the place. That doesn’t excuse Swisher for misplaying an easy ball, but that wasn’t the last run Wang gave up. As I recall Mike Lowell hit a rope over the Monster. Ortiz hit one 415 feet to the triangle. We can talk about ifs all you want, but that’s a HR in 29 other parks.
But I’m in agreement with the general sentiment that Wang better get his act together or he’s going to be pulling splinters from the bullpen bench out of his butt.
Prediction: 5 IP, 4 ER, 3BB, 4 K, Yanks win 9-5.
After which everyone declares it a step in the right direction, except me.
by New York Sports Jerk on Jun 17, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Joba and Phil
Good points Ed on both. We as fans have to keep reminding ourselves that they are 23 and 22 respectively, and very much a work in progress. If we want them to grow up at the ML level, we have to take the good with bad. But overall, I am pretty happy with they have given the Yanks so far.
As far CMW- day of reckoning. They cannot just keep throwing him out there and hope for the best. Get it going, or get going to the pen.
by NumberSeven on Jun 17, 2009 10:08 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Tonight...it's Wang!
Well,as the saying goes… “You can’t put a good pitcher down”,
i know Wang can make-up to it tonight….Yeeaaahhh!!!
by ,vhatz on Jun 17, 2009 10:40 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What worries me is that the Nats....
have a good offense and Wang hasn’t pitched well all year. That said if he still hits 95 he must have a confidence issue or something else that is bothering him.
by subliminalnirvanaist on Jun 17, 2009 11:06 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Pettitte and WHIP
I don’t think it’s fair to use WHIP to judge a pitcher like Pettitte, who throughout his career has always been wriggling out of jams. The bug game in the ‘07 playoffs, where he let the leadoff man on in every inning and didn’t give up a single run — that to me is quintessential Andy. Plus he always has a couple of putrid starts that artificially inflate his stats for the year. No, Andy hasn’t looked great so far this season, but he’s kept us in the game in every single start, and I believe he has one great stretch run left in him before he retires.
by DocBrown82 on Jun 17, 2009 11:50 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
True, but ...
His WHIP is way higher than it has ever been in his career. That’s the only reason I brought it up. We can expect improvement, but really not all that much.
by Ed Valentine on Jun 17, 2009 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wang has to be wangderful tonight
I am pulling for him but I am nervious for him.
by bcw420 on Jun 17, 2009 11:50 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Predictions
Wang’s line tonight:
2 innings, 7 hits, 6 ER, 3 BB, 1 K.
And Yanks will lose 2 out 3 to Nationals.
by E.R. Returns on Jun 17, 2009 12:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wait a minute...
This is the natinals. He can at least go 3 innings throwing just fastballs.
by jcut on Jun 17, 2009 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
right...
And Dunn and Zimmerman will just let those go by…
by NumberSeven on Jun 17, 2009 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Close.....
5.0in 6 H 3 R 3 ER 2 BB 4 K 1 HR
Maybe Cano will bail us out again. Gotta love Robbie!
by Yankees#7 on Jun 17, 2009 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wang
6 ip, 2 runs, 3 walks, 4 ks.
I am an optimist
by HappyLuckyGoldenDragonNumber1! on Jun 17, 2009 3:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I really hope
Wang can get this right. But I can admit, I’ve run out of patience…….He won alot of games for the Yanks in that 2 1/2 year span. How do you forget how to pitch if you are him? It kinda reminds me of Knoblauch 4getting how to throw to 1st…I don’t know what is worse. They might have a 3 or 4 game lead if his stuff is on. I wish him luck.
by ReggieARodJeter on Jun 17, 2009 4:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If you can't beat the Nats
CMW has to go! Sorry, but that’s the nature of the game. He’s just not working out. Thanks for the good years but we can’t have the “Let’s see how he does next time…” speech after every game he gets shelled. C’Mon Joe…bring the ax.
by Yankees#7 on Jun 17, 2009 8:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
really?
You checked their hitting stats? This is not a bad hitting club.
He had 3 runs let up. Melky’s bonehead dive, umpires bad call, that’s pretty much 2 runs right there and also drove up the pitch count.
Adam DUnn could hit a HR off any pitcher too, that’s not anything new.
Blame the bats for this one, not Wang.
by FreeBradshaw on Jun 18, 2009 7:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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