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Game 64: Gotta take two of three

Washington Nationals at New York Yankees, Jun 16, 2009 7:05 PM EDT


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We welcome into town the ML worst Washington Nationals (16-45, .262), who are already 20 games out of first. The Yankees should take at least two out of three in this series, especially considering we'll have our two best starters going (sandwiching our worst). 

Because of the off-day, Wang will be held until tomorrow and Sabathia will go tonight. CC's coming off a very good game that fell apart late. He's faced D.C. twice in his career, most recently last season when he threw a complete-game shut-out.

The Nationals' lineup actually isn't that bad: They're slightly below average in runs/game, but above average in OPS+ (thanks to Adam Dunn, Nick Johnson and Ryan Zimmerman). This makes sense due to the fact that the Nats are second to last in stolen bases (19), and even when they do steal, they're rather unsuccessful (59%). The Yankees, on the other hand, have one of the best success rates (83%).

Where D.C. struggles is on the pitching side (despite playing in a pitcher's park). The following are their ranks in MLB pitching:

ERA+ - worst

WHIP - worst

Walks - 2nd worst

Wild pitches - 2nd worst

Strikeouts - 3rd worst

They also rank dead last in defense, having surrendered 27 runs more than an average defense.

Tonight, it's Curacao-native Shairon Martis who gets the ball for Washington. The righty is just 22 and has had a rough go of it in two big league seasons, compiling a 5.18 ERA in 90.1 innings. It's tough to get outs when you only K 3.6 per nine and walk more than you K (29/28).



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Screw that. We should sweep.

This is three wins for us – the Nats are lousy anywhere, but really bad on the road – I think it’s six whole wins.
These are the games we need in order to keep pace and then move ahead.

by mrljdavid on Jun 16, 2009 6:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

2 out of 3? Are you nuts?

The Nationals have a .262 winning percentage. They are playing on the road, where they have a .207 winning percentage. Anything less than a sweep is a disaster.

by cph on Jun 16, 2009 6:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This is the World Series for them

Remember that Fernando Nieve guy, the castoff from the Astros, one of the worst staffs in the NL, dominated the Yanks.

That shows you right there, anything can happen.

Yankees SHOULD sweep them. Will they? I wouldn’t be surprised if they don’t.

by FreeBradshaw on Jun 16, 2009 6:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Let's go Yanks

If I's known I was going to live so long, I'd have taken better care of myself. Casey

by Cbeck3 on Jun 16, 2009 7:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

6 strikes-3 outs

Id say CC feels like throwing strikes today.

by FreeBradshaw on Jun 16, 2009 7:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This should be a team to grind down

get into te bullpen and beat up the bullpen.

If I's known I was going to live so long, I'd have taken better care of myself. Casey

by Cbeck3 on Jun 16, 2009 7:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Seriously...

work this guy, drive up his count, and for pete’s sake, get the runners IN.

by mrljdavid on Jun 16, 2009 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

A-Rod had a 3-1 count

hard to argue with how he ran the count. He’s just off with his timing right now.

I can’t speak for Jeter tho.

by FreeBradshaw on Jun 16, 2009 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good to see Wil Nieves caught on somewhere

and that he’s above the Mendoza line at least.

by mrljdavid on Jun 16, 2009 7:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He sure played badly for us

If I's known I was going to live so long, I'd have taken better care of myself. Casey

by Cbeck3 on Jun 16, 2009 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If he was with the Yanks

Im sure there would be some saying he’d be a better option than Posada.

by FreeBradshaw on Jun 16, 2009 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, he sure did

but at least he was a cheap badly. I never hate those guys. I save my ire for the Ponsons and Veras and other overpriced busts.

by mrljdavid on Jun 16, 2009 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hot i hope

If I's known I was going to live so long, I'd have taken better care of myself. Casey

by Cbeck3 on Jun 16, 2009 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Im on gameday what did he do?

this seems like the real swisher, as in nothing in play until 3-2 count

by FreeBradshaw on Jun 16, 2009 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

walk

If I's known I was going to live so long, I'd have taken better care of myself. Casey

by Cbeck3 on Jun 16, 2009 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

he's still having fun

If I's known I was going to live so long, I'd have taken better care of myself. Casey

by Cbeck3 on Jun 16, 2009 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fun is good.

Baserunning screwups, however, are not fun.

by mrljdavid on Jun 16, 2009 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No

that’s Swisher on fire. That’s what he does. I have no problem with it either. If there’s nothing to swing at, DON’T! (Cano should watch a few of these at bats.

by FreeBradshaw on Jun 16, 2009 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

OK CC, there's your run

complete shutout, please

If I's known I was going to live so long, I'd have taken better care of myself. Casey

by Cbeck3 on Jun 16, 2009 7:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Sac fly?

no problem with that either. Better than a strikeout or DP of course.

Gotta get A run in at least.

by FreeBradshaw on Jun 16, 2009 7:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

is Jeter limping?

If I's known I was going to live so long, I'd have taken better care of myself. Casey

by Cbeck3 on Jun 16, 2009 7:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Here you go A-Rod

runner on third. No HR needed. Not even a hit. Just got the opposite field, ground ball gets Damon in.

by FreeBradshaw on Jun 16, 2009 7:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

BB's ok

but now dingbat is up.

by FreeBradshaw on Jun 16, 2009 7:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

no

and he gets lucky too.

Can’t stand Cano. Its actually that he gets hits when he swings early that hurts him. Cuz he thinks that he can do it all the time.

by FreeBradshaw on Jun 16, 2009 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Michael Kay: DFA-ing Veras took "guts."

Because “ballsy” for Kay is apparently the equivalent of “common freaking sense” for anybody possessing eyes and the ability to read numbers.

"Even Napoleon had his Watergate." —Yogi Berra. Quite true.

by dzawaki on Jun 16, 2009 7:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Maybe he meant "guts"

as in, the feeling in your guts is that he sucks, and you should go with your gut? Or maybe Kay is an idiot?

PS. dzawaki – I think your quote was actually not by Yogi but by the old Phillies manager Danny Owens, who just died.

by mrljdavid on Jun 16, 2009 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The point is

if you send the young guys down, you can change your mind. Veras is going to be gone if anyone wants him. He won’t be back. He could straighten himself out and we’d look bad.

I don’t think that’ll happen, but it could.

If I's known I was going to live so long, I'd have taken better care of myself. Casey

by Cbeck3 on Jun 16, 2009 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

exactly

I know he’s sucked this season, but If anyone remembers that this guys was as good as any as the Yanks future closer. He was damn good at times over his Yankee career until now.

by FreeBradshaw on Jun 16, 2009 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I just checked saw that story, too.

Makes me sad, both because of Owns passing and also because that’s been my favorite “Yogi quote” for years now. Oh, well.

by dzawaki on Jun 16, 2009 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cano is an agressive hitter

he can swing at the first one, as far as I’m concerned, if he hits it that hard!

If I's known I was going to live so long, I'd have taken better care of myself. Casey

by Cbeck3 on Jun 16, 2009 7:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

If this guy is the "ace" of their staff,

the next two games are going to be great for our hitters.

The Mets are so lucky they get to play these guys 18 times.

by mrljdavid on Jun 16, 2009 8:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

And the average

with RISP dips even more!

by FreeBradshaw on Jun 16, 2009 8:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

8x4=36, Kay

LOL second grade

If I's known I was going to live so long, I'd have taken better care of myself. Casey

by Cbeck3 on Jun 16, 2009 8:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

46 through 4

go CC go

If I's known I was going to live so long, I'd have taken better care of myself. Casey

by Cbeck3 on Jun 16, 2009 8:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

yea...

I need to vent, cuz the Sux are piling on the Marlins right now.

by FreeBradshaw on Jun 16, 2009 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dammit, now it's 8-1

and ortiz has three rbis on the night and is up to .210.

Which means another 80 points and he’ll be hitting his weight.

by mrljdavid on Jun 16, 2009 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Get groundouts

“Strikeouts are boring, and besides that, they’re fascist. Ground outs are democratic.”

by mrljdavid on Jun 16, 2009 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

whoops, wrong reply line

thus ruining my Bull Durham quote about strikeouts being boring and fascist.

by mrljdavid on Jun 16, 2009 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

not really

see, CC’s too smart for that. He knows that it makes no sense to go for K’s now.

THIS IS HOW YOU PITCH!

You pitch to contact now, keep em off balance. When your in the 6th inning on, THEN YOU START STRIKING GUYS OUT!

Watch, I bet CC ends up with at LEAST 7 K’s before this game is over.

by FreeBradshaw on Jun 16, 2009 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ok

So I says “Would be nice to see some K’s”

You says “not really”

Then you says “I bet CC ends up with at LEAST 7 K’s before this game is over”

Do you not see you are saying the exact same thing as me?

by HappyLuckyGoldenDragonNumber1! on Jun 16, 2009 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

THIS IS HOW YOU PITCH?

Losing your focus and giving up a dinger to the bottom of the order? Glad we got that cleared up.

by cph on Jun 16, 2009 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

27

blame jorge

by CCArvin on Jun 16, 2009 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

a lot

and it actually was Wil Nieves that had a long pitch at bat followed by a single.

So I guess crappy hitting backup catchers can hit?

by FreeBradshaw on Jun 16, 2009 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cano

has 3 hits.

by CCArvin on Jun 16, 2009 8:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

tonight---yes

in the long run—-hell no.

Cuz next game he’ll try to do the same thing, and ground out 3 times to the right side.

by FreeBradshaw on Jun 16, 2009 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's silly

There’s no virtue in taking hittable pitches. There’s virtue in hitting them.

by cph on Jun 16, 2009 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

no doubt

when it works it works.

But Cano does it too much and it causes him to go in slumps. Its working now, but its just when Cano works the count, not necessarily like Swisher does, but you see Cano drive the ball when he gets in favorable counts more.

by FreeBradshaw on Jun 16, 2009 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

There's no evidence for your claim

that the way Cano hits puts him into slumps. He’s actually pretty consistent, compared with the others on the team. The numbers don’t lie.

by cph on Jun 16, 2009 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

no there's not

he actually hits .400 on first pitch.

he does hit .600 on 2-1 counts tho.

But his RISP is .228. I don’t know what his pitch selection is there tho, but he usually is a first pitch guy with runners on base from what I’ve seen.

Most RBI guys work the count with RISP. Cano is NOT a RBI guy either.

by FreeBradshaw on Jun 16, 2009 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The difference between the Yanks and the Red Sux

is in tonight’s scores so far: Yankees never take advantage of bad teams and they’re down. Boston, however, is up 8-1 already. Why can’t our team just want it more? COME ON YANKS

by OSUlovesSwisher on Jun 16, 2009 8:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I don't know that the Yanks don't want to win

they just aren’t executing or forcing the other team to make pitches.

by FreeBradshaw on Jun 16, 2009 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You know what

Seems like no one is gonna agree. I think Posada behind the plate costs us games. It will take quite a lengthy show of great pitching to change my mind.

by HappyLuckyGoldenDragonNumber1! on Jun 16, 2009 8:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

suit yourself

cuz he really helps you win games.

If you think a wallscraping HR that may end up the difference in this game is Posada’s fault, then nothing will show you otherwise.

by FreeBradshaw on Jun 16, 2009 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Didn't say THIS game

Not watching the game. I am talking overall. Posada wins games with his bat. Not his glove.

by HappyLuckyGoldenDragonNumber1! on Jun 16, 2009 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The funny thing is with the 3 run hr is...

the announcer says they they should not go for a pitch inside unless it’s wayyy off. Guess what posada calls….a pitch inside. No offense to posada cuz we’ve won a lot behind him but right now i feel more comfortable w/o him behind the plate.

by lololol on Jun 16, 2009 8:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I didn't see the pitch

but gameday showed the pitch to be off the inside corner of the plate. A slider on the hands is hardly a bad pitch.

Ther real funny thing about the HR is that it scrapped the LF wall, the 316ft, 8ft high wall.

by FreeBradshaw on Jun 16, 2009 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

CC Sabathia - can't concentrate

Giving up 4 hits to the bottom 3 guys in this lineup indicates that Mr. Sabathia can’t focus. Probably hungry for another dozen burgers.

by cph on Jun 16, 2009 8:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

?

what?

Funny things you epitomize Yankee fans. Diss your best pitcher, when all that really happened was a wall scrapping out in 99% of stadiums.

by FreeBradshaw on Jun 16, 2009 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

CC

will turn the switch on in July.

by CCArvin on Jun 16, 2009 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

heck with July

Win today

If I's known I was going to live so long, I'd have taken better care of myself. Casey

by Cbeck3 on Jun 16, 2009 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

imean

he will be unhittable just like last year.

by CCArvin on Jun 16, 2009 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or November

when it gets dark early.

by cph on Jun 16, 2009 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know

what your looking at, but there’s really nothing wrong with this game here.

3 runs, essentially off one hit being a new Yankee stadium HR too?

Id blame the team here. 5 walks? 4 hits? 2 runs??? Nope, id say its A-Rod and Jeter’s fault on this one.

by FreeBradshaw on Jun 16, 2009 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep, it's officially a "Quality Start"

As they say, he’s pitching just well enough to lose. Too bad he can’t keep his concentration against the bottom of the order.

by cph on Jun 16, 2009 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll give Gonzalez credit for his hit, and

Hernandez credit for using the stadium and taking a ball on the inside over the wall.

But Wil Nieves was the key there. 9 pitch at bat? and you get a single out of it too? Not really losing focus for CC, just a tough at bat.

by FreeBradshaw on Jun 16, 2009 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Whatever, it's pretty darn embarrassing to

lose to the worst team in baseball. Whether or not you’re getting $161 million.

by cph on Jun 16, 2009 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

that's baseball.

CC and his $161 actually is doing his job. I mean your fooling yourself if you don’t think so.

Its the hitters. That’s why this team is inconsistent now. When it all clicks, you see 15-0.

Pitchings on tonight, hitting SUCKS.

Tomorrow? Could be the pitching that sucks (CM Wang and all) and the hitting could be good, but they’ll lose 10-8 or something.

by FreeBradshaw on Jun 16, 2009 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly my point:

We need CC to dominate this team, no questions asked. The game is sluggish and so he fell in line with that train of thought rather than taking the initiative and being a leader.

And the way we’re hitting, it looks like we’ll be 3 games back again in no time.

by OSUlovesSwisher on Jun 16, 2009 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Man

Melky keeps impressing me. I really cannot read this kid. He’s having an excellent season but can this continue for the next few years? I hope so.

by OSUlovesSwisher on Jun 16, 2009 8:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

You guys kill me

stop whinning, are you Fans? Is this game over?

If I's known I was going to live so long, I'd have taken better care of myself. Casey

by Cbeck3 on Jun 16, 2009 9:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

+1

I don’t understand the bashing of CC.

The hitting should be harassed at all costs tho. The Nationals are pitching like shat, 5 frickin BB’s, all kinds of RISP, but 2 runs.

by FreeBradshaw on Jun 16, 2009 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

plus

the Nats bullpen stinks.
stop bashing CC.
in Sept all of us will love him.

by CCArvin on Jun 16, 2009 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

should be loving him right now

what the hell has he done wrong? 7 innings 3 runs? I’ll take that every time out.

You should be scoring more than 3 runs against the Nationals. If anything if your gonna lose to them it better be something like 9-7 or like that.

2 frickin runs?

by FreeBradshaw on Jun 16, 2009 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ok back in business

score Tex too

If I's known I was going to live so long, I'd have taken better care of myself. Casey

by Cbeck3 on Jun 16, 2009 9:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

n/m

gameday said A-Rod up, no one on. In play no out(runs)…but he’s still up.

by FreeBradshaw on Jun 16, 2009 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

move the runner Arod

If I's known I was going to live so long, I'd have taken better care of myself. Casey

by Cbeck3 on Jun 16, 2009 9:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This is big for Cano

Time to prove the naysayers wrong.

by OSUlovesSwisher on Jun 16, 2009 9:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He's 3 for 3

If I's known I was going to live so long, I'd have taken better care of myself. Casey

by Cbeck3 on Jun 16, 2009 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Screw the naysayers

He’s got half of the hits, has one of three runs and one of three RBIs today.

by cph on Jun 16, 2009 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey, FreeBradshaw

I guess Cano should have taken that pitch, shouldn’t he?

by cph on Jun 16, 2009 9:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

he took 5 pitches in that AB

soo iguess FreeBradshaw is kinda right

by CCArvin on Jun 16, 2009 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

not at all

that was the 5th pitch of the at bat was it not? Or does the 5th pitch = the first pitch now?

That is exactly what I want Cano to do. Where did I say I want him to walk? I want him to get into better counts, that’s all.

by FreeBradshaw on Jun 16, 2009 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The count was 2-0

then he swung at that pitch, took 2-2, then swung at the 5th pitch.

That’s what I want Cano to do. That’s what he did. Double is the result. This is the type of Cano that’s good.

by FreeBradshaw on Jun 16, 2009 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Of course, you're right

Base hits on the first pitch don’t count.

by cph on Jun 16, 2009 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

why do you keep trying to say

things that Im not saying?

Of course they count. But in the long run, Cano doesn’t do well when he swings at pitches early in the count.

He’s done incredible today. Id rather him mix in his approach like this.

But he gets prone to swinging at that first pitch too much, and its hurt him. I mean its tough to argue against his numbers this season, but I just think he’d be even better and more productive if he was more patient.

Overall he’s been more patient this season, and that’s why he’s having a more normal season.

by FreeBradshaw on Jun 16, 2009 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

There's no evidence whatsoever that it hurts him

Your’e quoting a baseball “book” that doesn’t exist in reality.

by cph on Jun 16, 2009 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He was 3-3

swing at 1st and 2nd pitches, which is good, nice result.

BUt he’ll drive in more runs, drive the ball more too, and be less prone to slumps when he works the count more, like he did in this at bat.

by FreeBradshaw on Jun 16, 2009 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

CC for another inning?

or give Bruney a shot?

by CCArvin on Jun 16, 2009 9:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

If it's still close, fine

If I's known I was going to live so long, I'd have taken better care of myself. Casey

by Cbeck3 on Jun 16, 2009 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

CC he's the Ace

If I's known I was going to live so long, I'd have taken better care of myself. Casey

by Cbeck3 on Jun 16, 2009 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

this IS

what bit CC in the arse last time tho. He’s at 98 pitches.

I say bring him out tho, but be careful.

by FreeBradshaw on Jun 16, 2009 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

dammit

the captain being subbed by Pena.

by BigSlim on Jun 16, 2009 9:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

he's been limping a little

It’s a long season, he’s not young

If I's known I was going to live so long, I'd have taken better care of myself. Casey

by Cbeck3 on Jun 16, 2009 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Michael Kay just told the best story about Cano

Cano and Aceves went to a Public School today to entertain some kids and apparently Cano dedicated this game to them.

Pretty awesome.

by OSUlovesSwisher on Jun 16, 2009 9:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Tack on boys

If I's known I was going to live so long, I'd have taken better care of myself. Casey

by Cbeck3 on Jun 16, 2009 9:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yep - hope Joe doesn't turn around and

use him 5 days in a row now. Paging Joe Torre and Scott Proctor.

by cph on Jun 16, 2009 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

squeeze?

If I's known I was going to live so long, I'd have taken better care of myself. Casey

by Cbeck3 on Jun 16, 2009 9:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

NICE

If I's known I was going to live so long, I'd have taken better care of myself. Casey

by Cbeck3 on Jun 16, 2009 9:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Lazy team, no heart

Let’s get another come from behind win!!

If I's known I was going to live so long, I'd have taken better care of myself. Casey

by Cbeck3 on Jun 16, 2009 9:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Too bad Pena swung at the first pitch,

huh FB? He would have done much better if he had taken a few.

by cph on Jun 16, 2009 9:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

nice win

If I's known I was going to live so long, I'd have taken better care of myself. Casey

by Cbeck3 on Jun 16, 2009 10:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

almost as many walks as hits

7 walks, 8 hits, and an error.

by mrljdavid on Jun 16, 2009 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

On a lighter note, good chance for ANOTHER Mets meltdown.

6-4 Mets in the 9th, but already 2 out – but 2 on.

Can K-Rod hold on?

by mrljdavid on Jun 16, 2009 10:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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