Sad time for Yankees, fans
The overwhelming emotion I feel right now as a diehard, long-time fan of the New York Yankees is sadness. Watching the great Mariano Rivera get hit last night in a fashion that had never happened in his unparalleled 15-year career only solidified that feeling.
I have been espousing the 'it's early in the season, things will getter, stay optimistic' line of thinking thus far. The Yanks are 13-15 in fourth place in the AL East. I look at the calendar and it says May 8. Only 28 games have been played. There are 134 left.
Much can change, and I want desperately for that to happen. For this to finish as a glorious season for my beloved Bronx Bombers.
Yet, I look at the calendar and it tells me something else. It says 2009. This isn't 1998. Or even 2003, when the Yanks may not have been kings of baseball, but they were still kings of the American League.
Yes, it is 2009. These aren't the dynasty Yankees of the late '90s. They aren't the Yankees we remember. They aren't the Yankees we yearn for. Right now, they aren't the Yankees passionate fans so desperately WANT them to be.
They still may be. There are those 134 games left. Alex Rodriguez may return and lift a moribund offense. Rivera may revert to being Rivera. Derek Jeter might have a .315 season left in him. CC Sabathia might start dominating the way the Yankees hoped he would. It is early, and great things could still happen this season.
The more I watch, though, the more I get the feeling those last 134 games could also be torture. I hope like hell that I'm wrong, but I get the feeling that I am watching the last vestiges of a great era of Yankee baseball crumble right before my eyes.
- I am watching things happen to Rivera that have never happened before. Whether he is 100% or not, he is 39, obviously not the intimidating, dominant force he once was and is nearing the end of the road.
- I am watching Jorge Posada deteriorate. Posada has 21/2 years left on his contract, and it's pretty obvious he can't spend all of that as a full-time catcher. He's destined to be a DH and part-time catcher.
- I am watching Derek Jeter, as much as I love him, begin a slow decline. He doesn't drive the ball like he once did, I know his range is limited and his throwing arm isn't always trustworthy anymore.
- I am not watching games in the 'real' Yankee Stadium. Sure, this new building is called Yankee Stadium. It's pretty obvious, though, that the mystique, aura -- and the ghosts -- have vanished across the street in the sad, old, empty building that is the true Yankee Stadium. Hal Steinbrenner may have thought it was just a building. It wasn't. It was a monument to the greatness of the best franchise in the history of sports. The new place is beautiful, but it's a monument to nothing but greed. The empty premium seats, and the fact that most of the fans have been pushed farther away from the action contribute to a morgue-like atmosphere in the place. Right now, this is just a building.
- I am watching lots of bad baseball. Night after night I see games those great Yankee teams -- and even the teams from 2004-2007 -- would find ways to win. Yet, night after night we see this team implode. No clutch hits, horrid bullpen work, whatever. It's tough to watch.
Truth is, the Yankees began a slow, painful decline on that October night in 2004 when Rivera walked Kevin Millar. I hoped with my heart that decline had bottomed out when the Yanks missed the playoffs in 2008. The off-season signings of Sabathia, A.J. Burnett and Mark Teixeira brought lots of optimism, and expectations.
Now, though, I have just two questions.
- Have the Yankees truly hit bottom yet?
- Will those last 134 games be torture, or will they be tremendous?
Right now, I really don't know.
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Age
Players age. Sad but true. The day of long term mega-dollar contracts, even for players signed in their prime (e.g., C.C., Tex) should be over. The Yankees just haven’t figured that out yet. I’m not sure Yankee fans understand that either. Most believe that the fix to this years problems is another 8 to 10 year free agent deal for Joe Mauer or Grady Sizemore or Matt Holiday or Roy Halladay or whomever when they hit free agency. That’s the way you win video game baseball but it’s not the way you win real baseball. Whoever said that it’s better to trade a player a year too early than a year too late meant that Rivera should have been converted into young prospects a year or two ago. The fact that the Yankees are in a unique position to be able to throw this money around with impunity is beside the point. It’s just not smart baseball.
by MickS on May 8, 2009 9:48 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Contracts
Yes the Yanks are paying the price for the length of deals given to Rivera, Posada, Matsui, A-Rod and others. I am glad CC, A.J. and Tex are Yankees, but the length of those contracts could also haunt the Yanks in the end. It is bad business to give out long deals. As for dealing Rivera? Never. But, he should be operating on one-year contracts at this point.
by Ed Valentine on May 8, 2009 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
sadness
Well what can i say? I should be happy we have a new stadium signed a couple of players that should have helped but I’m not I’m sad. I am a realistic person I know the Yanks are not going to win the world series every year but I do expect the greatest franchise in sports to be up there in the standings and in the fight till the end. I love the Yankees since childhood they have been my team and always will be. But this new stadium doesn’t cut it for me and judging by the empty seats it doesn’t cut it for a lot of people. I wish we could have the old stadium back but thats not going to happen so all i can hope for is at least a respectable season.
by rumbavladi on May 8, 2009 10:07 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Contracts
I’m not saying that all long term contracts are bad. A 7 year deal to a budding super star when he is 23 or 24 years old (e.g., Longoria) is probably a good bet. Then as that player’s contract expires in his prime (age 30 or 31) you don’t re-up him for another 7 years at a ridiculous number, you either trade him at the deadline (to the Yankees) of his contract expiration or you let him walk and collect the draft picks. The Yankees will probably have a crummy 2009 draft with the lost draft picks and an already mediocre farm system (at least according to Baseball America) will get a little more mediocre. To maintain the hope of a winning team every season under this scenario the Yankees are forced into the free agent market every year. It’s a vicious cycle and not a smart way of developing a team, in my opinion.
by MickS on May 8, 2009 10:21 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
time for changing of the guard
Im still holding out hope on Rivera, Wednesday showed him hes still got it, and i still dont know how Crawford got that pitch it def was off the plate.
However… i agree i see no heart in this years yankees. No desire to win, only a hope to win. Sure its only May, just like last month was ONLY april, and next month will ONLY be June. Lets face it, this team is going to DREAD playing at home which makes for a long season. The players see a half full stadium if they are lucky and they feel as though no one has faith in them, its a vicous cycle.
The pitching needs no words to describe it.
Our best starting ERA is Chamberlain with 3.77, while i love the guy, hes getting paid the least and yet has the most controversy over his role. He also has the lead in team strikeouts, with 27. Again, love the guy, but hello CC, AJ??? Wheres your Ks? No starting pitcher has 3 wins yet. ITS MAY, the rotation has gone through a solid 5 times now.
With the exception of RISP, i think our offense has done pretty well considering its age, 6th best average in the majors, 2nd best HRs (thanks to the stadium of course),
I personally dont think Arod is going to help. I dont think Tex is going to be THAT much better than if he didnt have Arod. You look at the pitches he swings at, hes just not there yet. You know why the yankees did so well in spring training? Arod was there to take everyone attention away, even after the surgery and whatnot.
I think the problem comes from the top in the view of how to win a championship… Its not the right view anymore. The right players and pieces arent in place to automatically focus on the WS, maybe not even the playoffs. The view should be on how to get the players to have the desire to win, because no one seems to have it right now.
by GriffMan on May 8, 2009 10:30 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sure I agree that there's no heart
They keep fighting to get back in the game even when they’re down early. They’ve either tied the game late, or had the tying or go-ahead run up, in every game. The fact that they can’t get the big hit to win the game is troubling, as is the fact that even the best of their bullpen keeps losing the games. But they’re showing something, at least.
by long time listener on May 8, 2009 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's the same thing every year
Rivera blows a save and everyone freaks out. He looked dominant the night before, striking out Upton, Crawford and Longoria. This type of things are going to happen and the reason it hurts more is because we are on a losing streak.
I understand Rivera is not inmortal. He has certainly lost a step and that’s why I wanted Joba to stay in the bullpen so he would eventually replace Mo.
The reason I’m trying really hard not to panic is because history has shown us that Mo gets it together after difficult outings. You would see him blow saves and then go on a tear. I’m not giving up on him just because he blew that game in Boston and then this one. I’m more concerned about Sabathia and Burnett, hitting with runners in scoring position. Hopefully A-rod will help this team. We really need all the help we can get.
"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"
by PanamaSun on May 8, 2009 10:34 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I hear you, Panama
We’re all trying not to panic. We all still have hopes for this season — there are lots of proud, big-name players on that roster. Yet, the sun will set on these great players eventually. I am just crossing my fingers and hoping for the best.
by Ed Valentine on May 8, 2009 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
1965 - 1975 all over again?
As someone who lived through what author Robert Cohen gently termed the "Lean Years of the Yankees", I note that there are a number of similarities between what the Yankees are going through now and what they experienced during those years. A combination of age, injury, arrogance, ultraconservatism, and unwillingness to try anything different resulted in the team going from a pennant in 1964 to 6th place in 1965 to 10th place in 1966. To answer your question, I do not think they have hit bottom yet. But if the current ownership recognizes that it can’t continue past practices, i.e., signing free agents for top dollar who are on the "back 9" of their careers, then there is hope for the future. But do not expect miracles within the next 5 years.
by cph on May 8, 2009 10:47 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It's more the shock of it
Watching that ninth inning and the looks of disbelief on the people in the Stadium is what really got me. I was there Wednesday night when Mo struck out the side, and he’s spoiled us for 14 years. He had to become mortal eventually.
Now do I think he’s going to breakdown completely, no, but psychologically, there’s doubt in the back of everyone’s mind now. He is 39, he has surpassed all the great relievers in terms of effectiveness and longeivity, and as a Yankee fan, you know he can’t last forever. If this had been a bad outing in the midst of a little winning streak, it may not cause such great alarm, but they had lost 4 in a row, they’re no hitting in the clutch and if we can’t trust Mo? Is nothing sacred?
Lost in all of this is the feeble bottom of the 9th we got from Matsui, Cano and Swisher, 2 tap backs to the mound and a K looking. Way to go down fighting guys.
by fredny on May 8, 2009 11:10 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’m going to say this for the umpteenth time in the past month: weird things happen, but it’s a long season, and the best teams on paper usually wind up being the best teams on the field when 162 games are over with.
I know a lot of you shun sabermetrics, but this is exactly the time to give them a good look.
What’s wrong with Mariano Rivera? Absolutely nothing. He’s struck out 17 batters and walked none in 11 1/3 innings. He’s utterly dominating the opposition. The real problem is his BABIP is .393, and 22% of the flyballs he’s allowed have left the yard.
Think about it. Rivera’s stuff is so filthy he’s striking out every third batter he faces – yet when the opposing hitter manages to make contact, he’s second coming of Ty Cobb, and when he puts it in the air he’s Babe Ruth. It’s bad luck, nothing more.
by 3460kuri on May 8, 2009 11:23 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ok
but at what point would you start worrying?
surely not after game 162?
for me, i’ll see where we stand one June 1st
by holycowboy on May 8, 2009 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kuri
I think you know I have been talking people off the ledge all season. I want to believe in this team, and I know Rivera has, at times, been as filthy as ever. But, he’s also been more hittable than ever at other times. It’s a looong season and we will just have to see what happens.
by Ed Valentine on May 8, 2009 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No
You are completely missing my point. He has struck out every third hitter he’s faced this season!!!
He is actually striking out batters at a significantly higher rate and walking them at a significantly lower rate over the past two seasons than he has over the course of his career. That’s the first thing you’d look at to see if a pitcher was decling.
The real problem is that Rivera has given up 18 fly balls this year, and 4 of them turned into home runs. That is EXCEPTIONALLY unlucky and completely unsustainable.
by 3460kuri on May 8, 2009 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
unlucky is one thing
but giving up back-to-back homers for the first time ever and a home run to Jason Bay that went about 800 feet to dead-center are causes for concern.
by SBakerTheTouchdownMaker on May 8, 2009 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The only things a pitcher can control are the number of batters he strikes out, the number of batters he walks, and to a degree, the amount of flyballs he gives up vs. groundballs.
Rivera has been HORRIBLY, INCREDIBLY, OTHERWORDLY unlucky to give up as many home runs as he has. It has absolutely nothing to do with his skill or lack thereof.
The 17 strikeouts agains 0 walks in 11 1/3 innings mean INFINITELY more than the 4 home runs or whatever. Rivera is fine, he is still at the top of his game.
by 3460kuri on May 8, 2009 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with kuri
Carl Crawford hitting that homerun is about the most unlucky thing Id ever seen. If Crawford pulled a Rivera cutter Id be surprised, but HR???? Curtis Grandserson’s HR was equally disturbing.
MO has always been more hittable to RH hitters just cuz the ball is moving away from them. Jason Bay HAS been on fire right now, and SO is Evan Longoria. I wouldn’t say that these 2 hitting a HR is so SHOCKING, just cuz these 2 look like the top guys for th AL MVP right now…..
It seems that the HR that have been hit are on balls that stay straight rather than cut 10".
Rivera seems fine one second but blows up the next. You see him blowing guys away, then all of a sudden they make good contact the next.
I don’t know if Mo loses focus at times, cuz that’s the only thing I can think of cuz the guy seems as good as ever most of the time. Also, Mo has always been not as good when he is coming in a game where there is no save situation. That’s always been true
by FreeBradshaw on May 8, 2009 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have been saying it all along
OVERATED!!!!! Rivera has sucked ever since the redsox came from behind in 2004 he really hasn’t been the same since. Jonthan Papelbon has replaced him as the best closer and is the best closer. Time for the dinosaurs to retire and the young guns to rise up. Maybe if your pathetic yankees actually spent some of that 400 million in drafting, scouting, and the farm system you would have some sort of a team. But no instead you continue to buy old washed up superstars. and the ones you buy that aren’t old (a-fraud, tex) have got there money and no longer care. the yankees problem is no team chemistry you know why there is no chemistry? because its a bunch of over-paid, me-first, gimme gimme additude players they no nothing about what being a TEAM player means. Get over it your glory days are over the redsox have become what you once were and your going to miss the playoffs again. NO team with that horrible of pitching will ever make the playoffs i mean shit your best pitcher has been NICK SWISHER!!!
Have a Happy Baseball Season!
by Tomm1239 on May 8, 2009 12:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That horrible of pitching .. wait who is Josh Beckett o yea he been sucking hardcore ..
what about Dice-K or Javy Lopez .. Get real if it wasn’t for the yankees sucking right now you guys would be right around .500 so shove this comment up your ass
by I Bleed Pinstripes on May 8, 2009 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought this blog was Troll-free
"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"
by PanamaSun on May 8, 2009 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am a Red Sox fan
And I have to say the Troll was dead wrong.
Rivera rebounded from the 2004 ALCS with a 2005 season that i felt he should have won the Cy Young AND MVP
He had bad starts before
When September rolls around he’ll be fine
As for my Red Sox, every day Javier Lopez cashes a check, part of me dies.
I’d rather have the CATCHER Javier Lopez pitch
by SullyBaseball on May 8, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sully
We never mind fans of other teams — even the dreaded Sox — coming by and sharing reasonable opinions. Thanks for doing that here. Oh, and I’ll see your Javier Lopez and raise you a Jose Veras. LOL!
by Ed Valentine on May 8, 2009 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll take it
at least your pitcher with control problems has decent stuff, unlike our pitcher with control problems.
by Buzzy on May 8, 2009 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tomm
Please don’t come here and just crap all over the people who really want to be here. Stay at the Red Sox blog.
by Ed Valentine on May 8, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
enjoy junior high graduation
that’s only a couple of weeks away, right?
by SBakerTheTouchdownMaker on May 8, 2009 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL, SBaker
BTW, you know your nickname doesn’t play as well here as it does over at BBV.
by Ed Valentine on May 8, 2009 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i know
i used to be “Clutch like Leyritz” but i had to ditch that for um, obvious reasons…
by SBakerTheTouchdownMaker on May 8, 2009 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh man
How about a formal announcement next time? I thought you were a newb the other day.
by bronxbound on May 8, 2009 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha
i have a different one for the Knicks’ blog P&T as well.
i love all three teams equally.
by SBakerTheTouchdownMaker on May 8, 2009 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Idiot!!
Anyone that posts an entry like the one you posted is either smoking dope or just denying reality. Even a die-hard red sox fan would read your comment on Rivera and be too ashamed to admit they root for the same team as you do. Aside from the fact that the statistics since 2004 prove that Rivera is as good if not better than before then, I’d like to add something. Papelbon is a great closer, but he is not, has not been and never will be as good as Mariano Rivera. And I say that in all seriousness.
by chambliss76 on May 8, 2009 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and
interestingly, Papelbon has been very, very lucky so far this year. He needs 20+ pitches to get through an inning and has a tRA hovering near 4. Rivera had arguably his best season…last year, so it would be silly to write him off, age and surgery or otherwise.
by Buzzy on May 8, 2009 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow.....
red sux fans still are gassed up…
Rivera has sucked since 2004? Texiera, CC and Burnett are washed up?? John Smoltz is NOT???
Team Chemistry exists???
No sense arguing with Red Sux fans, especially the genius ones like you. I’ll give credit, the Sux have been lucky with their drafting and signings, but as Manny has proved, you won’t be immune for ever (David Ortiz is next….)
by FreeBradshaw on May 8, 2009 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Get that man some HGH
This is what happens when you take drugs out of sports, players get old. Its a fact of life. We got used to seeing guys defy age… now we are back to the good old days when a 40 year old pitcher has nothing left.
by ryanwk628 on May 8, 2009 12:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Now it is time to put Joba in the bullpen!!!! If Mo is hurt we have no other choice, it has to happen!!!
by pedro316 on May 8, 2009 2:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
After last night
I think even the most optimistic of Yankees fans have to step back and examine what is going on. Mo is either gonna go on the DL or at least miss a few games not to mention he just blew up last night. We have no catchers either. It just got worse last night. I have no idea whether the worse has come yet or not. Every time I start to think it has, something like last night happens. O and if Mo’s shoulder was bothering him I would have thought that they might have done something about it by now. And there ain’t no way they’re gonna put Joba back in the ’pen even though that would be smart. So on top of all the other issues we now have a hurt catching corps and no closer, Outstanding. Makes me think the worst is yet to come.
O and Ed thank you I tried to make that point about the contracts but everyone ripped me. Great point.
And Dragon if you are reading this quit picking on the 19 year old with Autism and a brain tumor. Your comments about made me do something really bad last night. No joke. Read my medical reports
by Blazer Fan From Ohio on May 8, 2009 3:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
WTF do you think
You you piece of crap. You attacked me the other day in the recap of the loss form Wednesday. That’s what I’m referring to. I have no problme with you attacking my post but when you personally attack me you know what I got a right to come back and say something. Come on here and say something constructive and make a point but don’t come attacking other people
by Blazer Fan From Ohio on May 8, 2009 3:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Personal attacks
Remember gang, no one here should be attacking anyone. We are all here because we love the Yankees. We can … and have … and will in the future disagree about moves that should/should not have been made, etc. But, let’s do w/some class and maturity. We are all here … except the occasional troll … because we love the Yankees. Please remember that. Attack the post, attack the logic, attack the conclusion. DO NOT attack the poster.
by Ed Valentine on May 8, 2009 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ok
Show me where I personally attacked you? I will wait.
by HappyLuckyGoldenDragonNumber1! on May 8, 2009 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You just called me a piece of crap
Ummm. Ok. You really better post a link in which I personally attacked you in a manner in which you just did me.
by HappyLuckyGoldenDragonNumber1! on May 8, 2009 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
C'mon Happy
You’re a passionate fan. So are the other people. Let’s cut the baiting and name-calling and talk about the Yankees.
by Ed Valentine on May 8, 2009 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ed
Show me where I named called. I am not going to be called a piece of crap for something I did not say. I do not feel it is fair of you to point a finger at me when at no time in your thread or other thread personally attack someone.
by HappyLuckyGoldenDragonNumber1! on May 8, 2009 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let's just move on
This isn’t really directed just at you. It’s really for everyone. I have a set of expectations for how people in this community will treat each other. I’m not trying to single anyone out. My expectations are that people will do their best to treat other with some respect, that’s all.
by Ed Valentine on May 8, 2009 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is fine
I a agree. My point being I do not appreciate being name called with the excuse that I had said something to personal and hateful in which I had not. Than to have another person use me as an example for how not to behave. Sorry, I don’t play that passive aggressive game.
by HappyLuckyGoldenDragonNumber1! on May 8, 2009 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yankees are disappointing!!!!!!!!
ME.. I must say they paid way too much money for Igawa to have him in the Minors.. I don’t know how well he is doing in the minors… but i know he can be a guy who can play at least 3 or 4 innings better than Robertson or edward ramirez.. Like someone said in the next couple weeks i see then sending Rivera to the DL…bring back wang or someone who can last a few innings and put JOBA in the bullpen.. to close 8 and 9th innings.. Hopefully Arod makes an impact in the lineup and the yankees come back to life… If Not Get rid of Girardi to shakeup the team..
by YANK77 on May 8, 2009 3:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The last vestiges?
No, the last vestiges of the great Yankee teams of yesteryear left with Torre, and if not then, then definitely when we left the old ballpark.
This is a new era. And I’m not certain it’s gonna be a good one … with all the backloaded contracts we have – ARod, Jeter, Posada.
Is Cervilli any good? I haven’t seen him in a game yet. I know he played last night or the night before.
If we could DFA A-Rod, I would, so we can put Jeter at 3rd, and Pena at SS, and start the post-ARod era. I know A-Rod brings a lot of offense, but I don’t think he’s destined to win a championship ever.
by .ryan on May 8, 2009 4:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I hope I'm wrong ...
But A-Rod’s teams have never won championships. I think we need less hot dogs, and more team players. And A-Rod is the ultimate hot dog.
by .ryan on May 8, 2009 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe you're right about Yankee decline, but.....
Mr. Valentine’s article has some good points to it. Because so many players, and not just old ones, are hurt, it’s hard to say what we’re presently watching. We might turn it around. However this is not Yankee Stadium, and it never will be. We did not need a new stadium and the fans were not even clamoring for one. The Mets did, cause Shea has been a dump for about 25 years now. The renovation of the “Old” Yankee Stadium in 1974-75 was necessary. That stadium was outdated, there were seats whose views were obstructed, the neighborhood was much more of an eyesore then that it is now, and the stadium’s reopening coincided with a return to glory that beckoned an updated version. This new stadium is a testament to greed and excess. And the fact that there are empty seats in the front is great news because it shows that the fans are not sheep, which is exactly what management thinks they are. I never sat in a field box seat once in my life, and not because I could not afford it, but because I did not need to spend that much to enjoy a game. Now I could fly to Europe three times for what it costs in some sections. I hate to say this, but Yankee management do not deserve a winner. We, the fans do. The thought of the two Steinbrenner sons, Cashman, Lonn Trust, Levine (especially him. He’s the most odious of the bunch and an outsider) and other front office types who were jealous of Torre (proving once again that as long as any Steinbrenner is involved with the Yankees being Yankee manager is in many way a no-win proposition. If you lose you’re gone, which is as it should be, but if you win too much you become almost untouchable and so they then try to undermine, underappreciate, minimize and bother you until the day you finally decide it’s not worth the aggravation), felt Joe Torre was “just” a manager and far from extremely relevant, staring out at a half-empty stadium in mid September with the team 15 games out, wondering “What the fuck happened”, is simply priceless. I’d like the front office to get royally fucked like that but it would mean we’d get fucked too, and that I do not want.
by chambliss76 on May 8, 2009 4:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Dont jump off a bridge!!
Yeah, injuries are mounting…..but this is the bottom! One by one the injured will return and the pitching and hitting will get better. None of that means the Yanks are gonna win anything…but expect these guys to compete down the stretch. If Mo is HURT he’d be on the DL already. Pitchers get tired arm, and perhaps Mo really just as a tired shoulder. Let’s just wait and see.
I dont really see how any of this is Girardi’s fault…unless he’s injuring the players himself.
by Ragnar808 on May 8, 2009 4:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
things could look a lot better by Sunday night...
If A-Rod is healthy, and the Red Sox and Rays beat each other up over the weekend. Like him or not, Alex, if comes out hot and takes the pressure off the other guys in the line up would also make the pitchers relax.
They are not a playoff caliber team right now, but ,( stating the obvious) it’s early.
All the starters have to do a better job. CC has to have a quality start tonight. Being on the road may help them too.
by fredny on May 8, 2009 4:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I wouldnt count on A-rod
King of the meaningless HR.
by HappyLuckyGoldenDragonNumber1! on May 8, 2009 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sad
I too am a long time fan. Longer than I care to think about. I remember Scooter, Coleman, Bauer, Woodling, you get the idea. I have been a fan through good and bad and always will be. Cashman has put together a great bunch of athletics. But if there is no chemistry and emotion you get heartless baseball. Ohh they try. But there is no guts left. Jeter is great and will give it all that he has. Posada is a blood and guts player as is Riveria. But what do the have left now. We need a farm system. One that produced Williams, Jeter, Posada, Pettit and, well, you get te idea again. The Yankees were sad last year and they are sad this year and so am I.
by jimwarren on May 8, 2009 5:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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