Delta Bullpen?
I read Ed's pieces on targeting Hudson Street and potential trade chips, and I felt like I had something to say but could figure it quite out.
Part of it is that we can't trade away the top five right now, even a catcher likely to outgrow catcher. Even if he has no position, he'll be worth more later so long as he stays on track. Better to have a Jim Thome/ Ryan Howard situation than to have traded away the young guy to have the veteran break down completely.
Austin Jackson is hitting .356/.435/.450 in the International League, which is traditionally a pitcher's league because of the big ball parks. Ladies and gentlemen, this young man is off the table.
The Yanks have invested years into Dellin Betances already, banking on his high ceiling- no reason to move him as he learns to command his pitches (more hits than innings for the first time in his career, but still a K/IP against his usual boatload of walks).
Austin Romine is too young to bring back a big league part, and compared to Montero, Romine is more likely to stay at catcher.
And why trade Zack McAllister when he might be putting it all together?
But the other thing that needs to be said is that the bullpen is not that bad. Not that great looking, either, but not bad enough to warrant trading prospects before the 1st of June.
By now, most everyone is familiar with Batting Average on Balls in Play; how well (or poorly) did the defense turn contact into an out. If we see a low BABIP and lousy results, it's probably just bad luck.
WHIP (walks+hits/IP) is basically baserunners per inning. These are the results of BABIP plus poor control.
Our new stat today is tOPS+. Regular OPS+ is Onbase Plus Slugging Percentages. How mighty the hitter is basically. The + indicates that the number has been adjust for park factors and era, and set on a 100 scale, higher means more hitting than average, a low number means less. tOPS+ measures how well hitters are doing in the specific situation vs. their own average; in this case, how well do they hit the Yankee pen vs. the rest of the league.
| 2008 | 2009 | |
| BABIP | .294 | .283 |
| tOPS+ | 86 | 105 |
| WHIP | 1.27 | 1.46 |
Look how different those result numbers are! A .2 spike in WHIP is the difference between the careers of Roy Halladay and Oliver Perez.
And when they hit it, it's traveling. Last year, the bullpen stifled hitters, making them look 14% less productive than normal. This year the pen is making them look better than normal.
But that BABIP, that piece which studies show to be more important than nearly any other indicator, the 2009 BABIP is actually down from last year's stellar number. The only 2008 teams to put up a BABIP out of the bullpen better than the Yanks' current mark were the Tampa Bay Rays and the Toronto Blue Jay. The former rode their pen to the pennant, the latter couldn't score any runs.
So don't despair for the bullpen just yet; I bet there's a dominant streak just around the corner.
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I agree, it's not time to trade for bull pen help
Even if Bruney, Veras and Martenever contribute anything useful I am willing to go with what we have. The key is the improved starting pitching. The bullpen really suffered from the very poor early starting.
Right now we are 1/2 game out of first and just rounding into form. I believe the year will turn out the way we want it. No need to mortgage the future now.
If I's known I was going to live so long, I'd have taken better care of myself. Casey
I don't follow
And it’s probably just due to ignorance, so please help. If BABIP is basically a measure of how your defense is doing with balls in play, while the others indicate how pitchers are doing with base runners and keeping them unproductive, doesn’t this just mean that our pen is not doing well against opposing hitters, but our defense is? So hitters can hit our relievers, but our defense is playing well behind them anyway. I don’t see how that indicates that the pen is going to go on a hot streak? I do think that it indicates that IF the pen can pitch better (which I think it can), then we should be in good shape because the defense is there.
My point with Street
is that — if the Yankees decide to go after bullpen help — I don’t want a middling guy who might help. I want a top-notch guy. And I don’t know if he have the chips to go get one.
Austin
This kid excites the crap outta me. I cannot wait to see him starting next season. Love you Johnny D, but this is a contract year and it is time to let more of the kids in.
by HappyLuckyGoldenDragonNumber1! on May 29, 2009 5:35 PM EDT reply actions
Yeah the bullpen sucks but...
Its getting better. I think Aceves is a quality reliever as is Coke, Bruney and Edwar Ramirez will get things turned around eventually. That said, Marte, Abaladejo and Veras all suck and I can’t belive we haven’t sent them to Triple A yet.
by subliminalnirvanaist on May 29, 2009 8:28 PM EDT reply actions
Marte and Veras can't be sent down
it’s keep them or let them go.
If I's known I was going to live so long, I'd have taken better care of myself. Casey
Sure you can.
You just need to bring Kennedy and some other guy up
by subliminalnirvanaist on May 30, 2009 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions





































