Yep, Sabathia's a waste of money
by Ed Valentine on Apr 7, 2009 7:00 AM EDT
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PrintI knew it! I knew after watching CC Sabathia struggle in Monday's season-opening loss to Baltimore that I would read comments and 'Fanposts' suggesting that Sabathia was nothing more than a big, fat waste of money.
I wasn't disappointed.
There was this comment from 'ploni."
Sabathia is and was not worth the kind of money he’s been paid.
He’s a choke artist, big time. And now he’s on a big stage.
Then there was 'jimbotampayanks' calling Sabathia a "300-pound career loser."
Yikes! To tell the truth, I am disappointed. Bitterly disappointed. And embarrassed. Not by Sabathia's rough outing or by a season-opening loss, but by reactions like that to a single loss. The first loss of a 162-game regular season.
I'm not going to bother with the litany of statistics I could use to refute the claim that Sabathia is a career loser. If you aren't familar, go to Baseball-Reference.com and look them up yourself.
I don't understand this jump off the bridge, Sabathia stinks, Joe Girardi is an idiot , the season is lost reaction after one game. One game, people! Granted, a bad one, but c'mon. It's one April game against the Orioles.
Just chill, please. The Yankees weren't going to go 162-0. Sabathia wasn't going to pitch brilliantly in every start. Neither will A.J. Burnett, Joba Chamberlain, Chien-Ming Wang or Andy Pettitte. Mariano Rivera will blow a handful of saves. Derek Jeter will make some errors. Invariably, Mark Teixeira will whiff in a key spot at some point.
Bad things will happen. They do every year.
In the end, though, a whole lot of good ones will also happen. Sabathia will be one of the league's best pitchers and the Yankees will be one of the best teams -- if not the best.
So, step back off the ledge, relax and get ready for the loooooong haul. It's April. We could be doing this right into November, so just enjoy the ride.
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Sabathias' ERA in April is normally 2 points higher
He always has weight issues and reports to spring training normally about 40lbs over-weight. As he loses weight through the spring he will then be able to bend his back more and be able to hit the bottom of the strike zone. He leaves everything up in the zone this time of year and he gets whacked around the yard. April is always a bad month for him. Unfortunately for Yanks fans so is October normally.
I just hope the NY media doesn’t mess with his psyche too much and gets in his head. He will be ok but it will take some patience the first month of the season.
Calm down Yankee Fans
Last year CC started off terribly, giving up more than 5 runs in 4 of his first 5 starts. Yet he finished with 17 wins, a 2.70 ERA, and almost won the NL Cy Young. Relax guys.
There are 161 games left. he will have 30+ starts in that time. Let’s not freak out when not even 1% of the season has gone by.
Calm down? Why? I have 191 million reasons why not.....
OK so it’s the first game, and maybe we shouldn’t be so quick to judge CC. Or maybe not. How did he (CC) do in the playoffs last year for Milwaukee? He got smoked! Almost winning the Cy Young is just like almost winning the series – who gives a crap? This guy has no stamina to last into October and the Yankees’ “management” made a mistake signing Sabathia and not looking at the real numbers. Maybe he will get better after the first 3 – 4 starts and settle in, pull off maybe 18 wins. But the Eastern division is stacked this year (Sox, Rays, Jays, O’s) and I don’t think a “wait and see” attitude will work. Chalk CC up to the long list of genius Yankee trades/signings like Carl Pavano, Ken Phelps, Bobby Bonds, “Godzilla”, etc. I love the Yanks but I am so tired of seeing the Sox and others teams getting better by trading smart and growing the farm prospects.
CC “you watching the series on TV in October” Sabathia.
It's better to say nothing and be thought a fool....
then to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
You have $191 million reasons? What, are you handing the players their paychecks this year?
Sabatthia pitched poorly in one game during the ‘08 NLDS. I do not believe in “clutch” or “knowing how to win”; any pitcher is capable of doing anything in one game. Bud Smith threw a no-hitter once. Who exactly is Bud Smith, you ask? That’s exactly my point.
What exactly are the real numbers concerning Sabatthia? The 500 innings of 3.30 ERA baseball he’s pitched over the last two years, or the 15 subpar postseason innings he’s pitched? You’re telling me that 15 innings matter more than 500?
Just stop whining, and stop watching baseball. It’s obvious you don’t even like this team.
perfect quote for the situation
" It’s better to say nothing and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
Oh, God
One start and you compare him to Carl Pavano. Geesh! This is why so many people make fun of Yankee fans.
"One start and you compare him to Carl Pavano. Geesh! This is why so many people make fun of Yankee fans."
yup. The ‘98 Yankees started out 1-4, I remember people calling for Joe Torre to be fired. How’d that work out?
Oh, God is right...
Geesh! you can’t be a real Yank fan
Please do me a favor and don’t jump on the band wagon after CC starts popin.
by lovedthemallmylife on Apr 7, 2009 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions
You are the worst kind of yankee fan there is
I am willing to bet $1000 that you were ecstatic when the Yanks signed CC. I bet you woke up, saw the news, and were incredibly happy. CC has been an ace his whole career, has a great record pitching for many subpar teams, and has a career 3.70 ERA. And you’re saying that, at 28, he was a bad signing. That’s retarded.
Also, the Yanks are growing prospects, you are just too ignorant to see them. Brett Gardner? Robinson Cano? Joba Chamberlain? Every single bullpen pitcher except for Damaso Marte? Ramiro Pena, who is considered by many to be one of the top young shortstop prospects in the country? Don’t say the Yankees don’t grow talent, because they have one of the best minor league pitching rotations.
And also, do not even begin to say that the O’s and Jays are a threat to overtake the Yankees. The Blue Jays are an awful baseball team, and after Roy Halladay, they really have no one worth talking about. The O’s only have one pitcher in their rotation, and that’s Jeremy Guthrie. The rest of thir rotation don;t have more than 10 starts combined.
So stop being ignorant, calm down, and realize that the Yankees have a very solid rotation and a very powerful offense. If your going to throw away the whole season after one game, you are an idiot.
cc sabathia was the guy to get this offseason as far as starting pitching. if the yankees didnt get him he would have ended up on the angels or even worse, boston. new york is in the playoffs every year with the exception of last year. I think they know what there doing.
by WestHavenYankeeFan on Apr 7, 2009 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions
makes me laugh
the curse of the Bronx Bucks
people brag in advance over all they have bought, but the bragging sets them up. That’s why people love to hate NY
but I fully expect CC to be good (for a couple years, before he breaks down)
no, the real fun will be Pettite (great career, but done) Burnett (head case) and Joba (head case)
2009 will be a year of horrors for Yanks
just hope the Yanks stay close enough to make their fans keep caring enough to suffer
One game
One Game? The guy has one bad Game and the Red Sux people rejoice?
If the Yankees have a mediocre April, and the Sox are winning at an .800 pace, does it really frickin matter in April?
CC is going to be fine. How the hell can you consider a guy a waste of money after one game?
Frank, if you really are a Red Sux fan, cuz you sound like one, get ready for a true curse. In NY, we have no cursed teams (Unless you count the Jets, which I don’t). The Sux were cursed for years, and only made the thing a rivalry in 04. So maybe now you can get ready for the Curse of Manny.
Don't worry about the Sox fans
And forget arguing with them. Nothing is accomplished. What you should be worried about is the Yankee fans who are already killing CC after one game.
True
It shows why people get the perception that Yankee fans are mindless idiots who think “World Series or die”
I don;t get how you trash one guy cuz of one start. If the guy was Cy YOung the whole year, then he threw in one of these, then is that Ok, or do you say the same thing?
Its one start, he’s got a whole lot more starts and Id rather get the stinker’s out of the way now.
by FreeBradshaw on Apr 7, 2009 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Cliff Lee
how good was the guy last year for the Indians? He got bombed yesterday, but I’d guess Cleveland fans aren’t calling for him to be optioned to AAA.
by Ed Valentine on Apr 7, 2009 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions
that's too bad Frank
usually you stay away from the trollish tendencies of your Sox brethren.
good luck with a (likely) washed-up Papi and that gaping hole in the middle of your lineup.
by SBakerTheTouchdownMaker on Apr 7, 2009 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Malzone
A Sox fan here. We are not all like Malzone. Search his posts on OTM and you will see he is almost universally panned there too. Come on, this is one cold-weather start from a guy who normally stinks in April. Yesterday, Halliday, Lee, Webb, Lirano, and CC all crapped their pants. Big deal.
Very true
I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.
by Drugs Delaney on Apr 7, 2009 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Ed, its just as bad on the Flushing side of town
I’m sure some of my compadres are screaming this morning that the Mets are going to win the World Series based on the first 2-1 lead the Mets have held on to since Roger McDowell.
Cue Billy Joel’s “I go to extremes”
Calm down Yankee fans, have some dip.
Signed,
Your token Met fan
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Apr 7, 2009 8:51 AM EDT reply actions
But one difference is..
The Mets actually have a good bullpen this year with Green, Putz and KRod. Remember last year when some people were critising Santana for only pitching 8 innings when the bullpen melted down in the 9th with 3 run lead? So I think some (key word) optimism is justified there.
"No matter where you go, there you are"
The Mets should feel great
Their biggest hole was filled quite nicely in the offseason. I expect the Mets to dismantle the Phillies this season and take the division.
by HappyLuckyGoldenDragonNumber1! on Apr 7, 2009 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions
are you a REAL fan or a bandwagoner
If you are a true yankee fan or a true fan of ANY team, you would have to realize this loss or the loss of any opener doesnt mean a thing. There are ALOT of so-called Yankee fans that panic after a loss like this and that is when you can usually identify the bandwagoners. Oh, you redsux fans, You better PRAY your team makes the playoffs! No excuses, take it like a man like you had for nearly a century. Also, keep this in mind, More redsux fans have passed away never seeing a championship! LOSERS!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
Sabathia will be.....
FINE! Relax! I am from Wisconsin and a Brewer fan. I have also always liked the Yankees. Am I glad Sabathia is gone and with the Yanks? No. But I was realistic and knew he wasn’t a long-term fixture in the Brewers’ clubhouse. He chose the Yankees, for 191 million reasons, and will be just fine. He got beat a couple times in Milwaukee and will get beat a few more times this season in New York. It’s a fact! But, by season’s end, CC will be near the top in every important catagory and the Yanks will probably have 100 (or more) wins.
Yesterday was only one game…in April! As a Brewers fan I recall 1987 when Milwaukee started 13-0 and it was going to be a GREAT season. BLAH! It wasn’t. April means NOTHING! Relax New York. Sabathia WILL dominate and all will be wonderful again in the Big Apple!
The sky is falling!
Every game counts, and games in April are far from meaningless, but the overreaction we are seeing to CC’s start is typical. His ERA in April is always higher. Looked to me like he was having control issues with his fastball. On a positive note, Jeter looks do be doing well in the leadoff role and Gardner continues to impress. I’d also like to state that it is a mistake to underestimate the Oriole offense, these guys aren’t a joke.
I believe the problem
is that after seeing our starting rotation rot on the vine last season, expectations were Sabathia and Burnett would “instantly” improve the rotation (instantly means ‘never lose’). People seem to forget that April 5 is nothing more than an extension of Spring Training.
And many pitchers have early April difficulties because they spend a mere 2 weeks ramping up to the 75-90 pitch count — You think not?
Imagine the groaning in Cleveland where last year’s CY winner Cliff Lee got ROCKED for 7 runs by Texas, giving up one more run than CC did.
or in Detroit where Justin Verlander was SHELLED, giving up TWO more runs than CC did (8) to Toronto.
or in Minnesota where Liriano lost…giving up 4 ERs.
or in San Diego – that guy that so many Yankee fans wanted us to trade for, you know, Jake Peavy…yep, he was an opening day loser, too, giving up 4 ERs.
Roy Oswalt, loser.
Brandon Webb — posted a double bogey 6 just like CC, down in Arizona.
Each of those pitchers is top-flight, front-line starters. And each of them lost yesterday.
For those who want to jump off the bridge this early in the season, please let me know — I’ll hire a tour bus to drive you there.
Thank you
ANd the way Jeremy Guthrie pitched, you’d think he’s an ace. You’d think Brian Roberts is the MVP of the league (he is very good tho.) YOu’d think Adam Jones is the second coming of Griffey Jr…….
Add the fact that B-More is frickin freezing right now. They aren’t in Florida or Arizona or wherever the hell they were.
by FreeBradshaw on Apr 7, 2009 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions
It seems like the major media
outlets encourage this type of nonsense as well, check out Borden’s column regards CC’s start.
by FrankDiscussion on Apr 7, 2009 10:33 AM EDT reply actions
Ed....you might want to verify this
ESPN is reporting the Yankees are cancelling the rest of the season, the devastation over being 0-1 is too much to handle
On the other side, the Mets are planning a parade down Northern Blvd in Queens, because they don’t feel its going to get any better than 1-0
And 3460kuri’s post up top is Cooperstown stuff
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Apr 7, 2009 10:44 AM EDT reply actions
I think I've heard that too
I think you’re right. SI is reporting that Steinbrenner held a meeting with the MLB officials and decided that because of CCs poor start, the Yankees are not fit to continue this season, and will pack it in until next year.
Also, I believe the Mets will actually end their season too, because their bullpen came in a close game and didn;t blow the lead, so they’ve decided it really doesn;t get any better than that.
Don’t you hate the immediate negativity of a lot of people about one loss? It really is awful. Have a little bit of faith in the Yankees. There are still 161 games left.
Yes CC is a waste of all that money
For one, he’s always about 700 lbs or so coming in to camp. Two, he’s always blown up in the playoffs and the spotlight. Three, the only reason he pitched so well last year is because he was in a contract year. Four, he’s always pitched in the AL and NL Central divisons, which are very weak usually. So what’s the logical thing to do? Throw $161 mil at him! Nice job Yanks! Our top 2 starters are : CC Sabathia- overweight and fails miserably in big spots and AJ Burnett- will probably have Tommy John surgery some time in May. O and then there’s Texiera who proved that he can’t hit with guys on base. This team will finish in 3rd.
by Blazer Fan From Ohio on Apr 7, 2009 11:54 AM EDT reply actions
Ugh!!
You just don’t get the point of how truly ridiculous you sound throwing around all that nonsense after one game, do you? Please, get some perspective.
by Ed Valentine on Apr 7, 2009 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions
You are a waste of oxygen and water
Firstly, normally I ignore posts like this because if CC wins 17 or 18 you will be on your knees sniffing his jock. You sound like a typical Red Sox fan who is calling for Francona’s head after the Yankees win 2 of 3. It was Baltimore’s home opener, they were psyched. It was a rain delay, never good for pitchers. CC couldn’t locate his fastball, all his other pitches revolve around that. He didn’t pitch well, sure. No big deal. If by his 6th start he is still walking guys all over the place then I will be worried. The 08 Yanks started 0-3. As for Burnett, when he was younger he used to try and overthrow his fastballs which is usually bad for the body. He finally learned he doesn’t need to throw is heater threw the wall to get an out anymore and his body mechanics seems much more fluid.
by HappyLuckyGoldenDragonNumber1! on Apr 7, 2009 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions
thank u
I appreciate your comment you should feel so much better about yourself know that you said that. You truly are a big man lol :)
by Blazer Fan From Ohio on Apr 8, 2009 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Blazer fan from Ohio huh......
Ohio??? Cleveland’s in Ohio right? Maybe a little bitterness about not having CC (and the fact that behind the Cubs your now the most devoid of Championships in a while)…….
The NL Central was the strongest divison in the NL last year. The Cubs had the best record, and CC carried the Brewers to the playoffs. And do you honestly believe that crap about the AL Central?
How the hell are you gonna say Texiera cannot hit with runners on? I know its archaeic, but the guy’s RBI totals beg to differ on that.\
You really are an idiot. Enough to like the Blazers when you have an MVP on your homestate B-Ball team.
by FreeBradshaw on Apr 7, 2009 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
First off, I HATE the Indians and don’t live anywhere near Cleveland so I don’t really have any feelings toward CC leaving the Tribe. I Hate Ohio teams so to say I’m bitter is rather funny. The AL Central is awful he got to feast on the Royals a lot. CC can’t pitch in the playoffs- look at his career numbers in the postseasin- so I don’t think he’s a good fit for New York considering we are built for the playoffs. RBI’s don’t tell the whole story. A guy have a ton of RBI’s but hit .200 w/RISP so that’s not a good stat for your argument I don’t think.
O Tommy John AKA AJ Burnett goes tonight….. another waste of money cuz h will be on the DL before april is over like always.
Thanks for calling me an idiot. I’m so immune to everyone’s insults by now you just say what you want about me. All I’m gonna do is keep being myself cuz I like myself and I don’t care what anyone else says. Have a nice day….. :)
by Blazer Fan From Ohio on Apr 8, 2009 8:35 AM EDT up reply actions
immune to everyone's insults
I am not sure him calling you an idiot is exactly an insult. I mean it’s not as if your post was trying to prove your depth and breadth of knowledge or try and delve into philosophical baseball issues. Kinda like calling a duck a duck if you ask me.
by HappyLuckyGoldenDragonNumber1! on Apr 8, 2009 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions
ok
Then I’m an idiot. Fine by me
by Blazer Fan From Ohio on Apr 8, 2009 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions
is heather threw = his heater through
Geeeez I need more coffee
by HappyLuckyGoldenDragonNumber1! on Apr 7, 2009 12:26 PM EDT reply actions
Funny
The guy in the rotation I am most worried about ain’t CC or AJ or AP or even JC but rather CW. CC is gonna be a stud, stop worrying. AJ will pitch very well. Andy is Andy and will win 14-16 games. Joba, if he stinks Hughes comes up and Joba goes to the 8th so no worry there. Haven’t seen much of Wang and hope he can keep that sinker low in the zone other wise it may be a long year for him. BUT, you have to give credit to the man, 2 19 win seasons and then went 8-2 before the injury… he is a stud.
by HappyLuckyGoldenDragonNumber1! on Apr 7, 2009 12:30 PM EDT reply actions
CW
is the last guy Id be worried about. Wang has been our ace for a few years. I still consider him our #1 with CC and AJ here cuz in reality Wang hasn’t shown anything to take away from that distinction. He has been a bit prone to injury, but its seems that all pitchers at some point have an injury or two, so its not rare.
And speaking of that injury, it had nothing to do with his arm. Actually, none of his injuries were shoulder or elbow injuries. Moslty its the blisters from those sinkers that’s the problem. So Wang’s golden arm really hasn’t been a problem at all.
The guy throw’s 95 mph sinkers. That’s Kevin Brown stuff and Wang barely makes a peep even when he has gotten shelled.
So to me, Wang is the least of the worries. I’m not worried at all yet, but in order of things to worry about our pitchers.
I don’t know how a Yankee fan hasn’t heard of CW, so I ‘ll let you explain that one if you care to. But Wang is the last guy on our entire team actually that Id be worried about. He’ll do his thing.
prone to injury
I dont think injuring your leg on a freak running play on the basis after pitching more than 30 starts the past two seasons make you injury prone.
by HappyLuckyGoldenDragonNumber1! on Apr 7, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions
That's why
I said a bit prone. His rook year he had a freak injury and missed July and August moslty. He had some blister problems in 07 that caused some ineffectiveness and some missed starts. And it also added to him not being himself in the playoffs. And then you had the other freak injury in 08.
I said injuries are common with all pitchers, they all seem to break down a little at some point. But in no way was I saying he was injury prone in his career like say, AJ Burnett??. But he has had some problems so he’s been a bit prone to injury…
Wang hopfully will suffer from none of anything this year and will dominate like he did in 06, of course now with more in his arsenal than that sinker.
I think that
CC will locate what he needs to locate and He’ll be Fine.. It’s too early to say that the whole team is a bust.. We need to take a deep breath and chill out- because there is a whole bunch of Baseball to be played!!
I like to believe my best HITS border on Felonious ASSAULT
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C-Ya Sabathia
Does anybody remember Barry Zito?
CC is a bigger, fatter version. He will some games in Pinstripes…but trust me when I say this….
nobody in Boston or Tampa is scared of this guy’s stuff. He is a soft Californian who thrived in loserville markets…Milwaukee and Cleveland, where the baseball attention span equates to what kind of mustard can I put on my hot dog. Yankees fans know all too well what kind of personality it takes to win in NY. I am sorry, but A-Rod, Texeira, and CC don’t have that personality.
Texeira will put up good numbers…he is awesome. Will he do it in the clutch, or be like A-Rod? Not sure…
CC is just not worth the money. He is a 15-10 pitcher at best, with a 4.50 ERA in the AL East.
You really comparing Zito to CC after one start?
Ummm no. First off Zito started losing steam on his FB QUICK. He was barely able to get up to 90 in SF. That was his undoing. CC has not lost one bit on his fastball, he just had a hard time locating it. So if you know anything about anything which you clearly don’t is that if a pitcher loses his velocity he is usually going to be slammed. If a pitcher loses location, it usually means it was just a bad outing. So think before you write.
by HappyLuckyGoldenDragonNumber1! on Apr 7, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Let me ask all of you trolls one question:
How pathetic, immature, and juvenile must you act before you’ve subconsciously compensated for your poor social skills and insufficient phallic endowments?
If you want to talk about baseball, then by all means, let’s do so. On the other hand, if you want to act like fourth graders and post inflammatory messages on the internet, then hone your English skills, because most of them have a better understanding of grammar and punctuation.
For the rest of us, these people need to incite a reaction, so if we simply ignore them, they’ll go away.
Seconded
Travis and I are the new chiefs here, and we want to create a friendly place for discussion. Not a place where we spend all of our time screaming at each other. The folks at Big Blue View get tired of hearing me say it (which ‘SBaker’ can vouch for, I’m sure), but keep it friendly, keep it mature and keep it at an intelligent level. Otherwise, keep it to yourself.
i'll vouch for that
it’s just going to take a little getting used to, going from a Giants blog (where the NFC East hates you) to a Yankees blog (where every MLB fan in America hates you).
i think people saw this CC start as a chance to jump on the Yanks early. i’m just as frustrated as everybody with the way he performed yesterday, but don’t forget about his slow start last year in Cleveland. if i remember correctly, that season ended pretty well for him. one dud of a start isn’t the end of the world – the same applies for both of last year’s Cy Young winners (8 IP, 14 H, 10 ER combined) on opening day.
by SBakerTheTouchdownMaker on Apr 7, 2009 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions
SBaker
There is definitely a different tone (read ‘blind hatred’) when it comes to how fans of other teams feel about the Yankees I get it. What I don’t get is alleged Yankee fans, who have won enough that they should know better, jumping off the bridge after every loss. You know I also don’t go for the personal attacks. If you wouldn’t say it to somebody’s face, don’t type it.
the difference, of course
is that the Giants are classy ;)
I kid. Also, to respond to the Zito comparison, Zito’s K/9 and K/BB ratios had declined in each of his last 3 seasons in Oakland. It was widely acknowledged that he had lost a lot of zip off his fastball and that his curveball wasn’t nearly as sharp as it had been when he rode it to a Cy Young Award. His ERA over his last 3 seasons was almost a full run higher than over his first 3 seasons, and his WHIP went from 1.181 his first 4 years to 1.330 his final 3. There were a TON of warning signs that Zito was slipping. Sabathia, on the other hand is coming off back-to-back career years. It’s likely (maybe even probable) that he’s going to slip from that level, but he’s still going to be a very good pitcher this season (unless he gets hurt, but that can be said about any pitcher).
Oh, and Tex is awesome. I really hope fair weather fans like Beerabelli don’t do to him what they did to ARod, b/c he doesn’t deserve it. And I’m a Mets fan!
Haha, yea I was expecting these comments too
It happens on every blog. There’s always some people who need to have their expectations met or they’re gonna go off. I was actually expecting C.C. to struggle early on. That’s what he always does, plus in the past year he’s gone from AL to NL back to AL. Some say that’s not a big factor, but in reality it is. So do I think C.C. is going to be a Cy Young this year? No. Do I think he’ll net us 16-17 wins, yup. So it’s just a matter of being patient. New York is no easy place to play.
It's true what they say...Even the NFL's Big Wigs hate the Steelers. On the plus side, I can now tell my future grand kids about Hines Ward and how the NFL made rules because of him. Roger Goodell, you make me sick.
by Tim Mullhaupt (HSS) on Apr 7, 2009 2:38 PM EDT reply actions
Faith
hitters always come around faster than pitchers. The season always starts with guys on hot hitting streaks against pitchers whos arms are not up to par yet. (look how well so many scrubs hit in preseason) Give them some time, let the weather warm up, and the guys will be the zip back on the ball. CC always starts cold then rips off 20 wins down the stretch which is where the Yankees have struggled the most and where he will make his reputation. Winning big games in Aug/Sept is much more important than in April
Im in NE and Im watching the Suuoox vs the Rays
and by some of these people’s logic Josh Becket looks like the shoo-in for Cy Young this year. The Rays are a fluke and the Suuox with Pedriuuuoooia and YUUUUUKAA are gonna win the Series.
Unbelievable
The way people can overreact to one game. Yesterday doesn’t mean CC will have a bad season. It also wouldn’t have meant he will have a great season if he had pitched 7 shutout innings yesterday. It’s a long season, folks, save your energy!
by turnbackthealarm on Apr 7, 2009 7:10 PM EDT reply actions
Insanity!
Anyone who thinks that all hell is breaking loose because CC lost the 1st game of the season, is a person who I am glad doesn’t run any of the pro teams I root for!
I coulda sword I heard Ken Singleton and Michael Kay on YES talking about how there is all this pressure to win the next game. Why would anyone say that? Why start infusing a season that is 9 innings old with worry and pressure? Do they just like to put people in a pressure cooker for no good reason?
More interesting than this topic would be to hear an psychological analysis of people who go insane and create all this pressure on others and themselves for no good reason.
L!
CC
You know, I’m sure if your boss based whether you had a job or by only looking at one project you worked on that you wouldn’t have a job either. The season is 162 games. If he isn’t injured CC will start 30 maybe 35 of those games. If at the end of the season (barring injury) he goes winless.. then you can say he was a waste of money. You’re an idiot, nd you’re not even a sports fan let alone baseball… GO WRITE FOR SOMETHING ELSE!!! You’re a fairy!
one game
is .6 % of the season.
i honestly think some of these so-called Yankee fans are just trolls in disguise.
Will all the Red Sux' fans here get a life!!!!!!!!
The Red Sox have some of the most bitter fans on the face of the earth! If you think otherwise than please find me one who isn’t still consumed by a self hatred of their bone head management (the one that traded Ruth to us and Jeff Bagwell to the Astros for nobody) for stuff that happend along time ago. And what is with this “Curse of the Bronx Bucks” nonsense? In case you didn’t know the Yankees have over 15 more World Series titles than the team with the second most titles (St. Louis). CC will have a fine year. Don’t judge how the entire season will go by one game! After all its one stupid game that probably won’t matter anyway once we win it all.
GO YANKEES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by subliminalnirvanaist on Apr 7, 2009 11:10 PM EDT reply actions
The Wind
I think the cold wind got to CC while pitching against Orioles. As for the waste of money thing, i don’t know what to say as a yankee fan when I see “Yankee fans” bash one of our pitchers after one lousy start. I’m asking those fans a question: how are you just not a yankee fan, but a baseball fan? thats my question.
by NYYEastcosterNJD on Apr 8, 2009 12:29 AM EDT reply actions
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