Embarrassed, yes -- panicked, no
I will admit I was immersed in the NFL Draft this weekend (just ask my wife!), cranking out posts like crazy over at Big Blue View. I did happen to notice, though, that our New York Yankees spent their weekend getting embarrassed by the Boston Red Sox.
This, of course, means that the bridge-jumpers are out in full force around Yankees Universe. There are calls for Joe Girardi's job. Calls for Kevin Long's job. There is John Harper of the Daily News blabbering about how the Red Sox have stolen Yankee Pride.
I know that today is not a great day to be a Yankee fan. Especially if you happen to share an office with with a diehard Red Sox fan or two. But, the world hasn't ended. It' April 27th. Eighteen games have been played. The Yanks are 9-9. There are 144 games to play, so there is no need to panic.
Listen to Mark Feinsand of the Daily News.
The Yankees aren’t panicking, and neither should their fans. Eighteen games -12 of them on the road, no less - is too soon to start the Girardi watch, especially with Chien-Ming Wang’s situation and Alex Rodriguez’s injury. Let’s see where this team is on June 1 before we decide who needs to be traded, fired, released or put to sleep.
Or, you can listen to the players' themselves.
You know the drill: The Yankees visit Fenway Park early on the schedule, and things don't go well. And before your superego can scream "Small sample size!" you're calling for the jobs of Joe Girardi, Brian Cashman, Andy Pettitte, Angel Berroa and, for a few moments in the bottom of the eighth, Mark Melancon.
A 4-1 loss to the Sawx, an embarrassing straight steal of home by Jacoby Ellsbury off Andy Pettitte and a series sweep, and suddenly the Yankees, at a pedestrian 9-9, are under siege once more.Not really. Actually, two of our most reliable excitable types, Pettitte and Jorge Posada, both appeared rather calm about the big picture, although Pettitte took accountability for Ellsbury's big moment and the game as a whole.
"For me to get concerned, it's going to take an awful lot more than that," Pettitte said.
Added Posada: "I think we have a great ballclub. I think we should be all right. We just have to pitch a little better."
Umm, yes, that they do. The Yankees have the worst ERA in all of baseball, an amazingly unsightly 6.26. We have seen enough to know that the bullpen is a concern, although I think Girardi's mis-handling of it has something to do with that thus far.
Cross your fingers that Mark Melancon can step up and fill the Brian Bruney role. That Girardi starts to trust Phil Coke more, and that he stops burning through his entire bullpen in 2-3 innings every time the game is close. That David Robertson and Jonathan Albaledejo can get some key outs. That Girardi forgets about Jose Veras in close games.
I think the bullpen will be fine, provided Girardi settles down -- and the Yankees stop needing 7-8 innings out of the 'pen.
Third base is a concern until A-Rod gets back. It took two games for us to realize why Angel Berroa cannot be this team's utility infielder. He is a butcher with the glove. At least Ramiro Pena can field. And, for the umpteenth time, I have to ask why Brian Cashman thought Cody Ransom or Berroa could fill the utility role.
There are other concerns. The lack of clutch hitting, the alarming number of injuries.
Yet, it has only been 18 games. It's not time to abandon ship yet.
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Same Old Story
Have to disagree with this article entirely. True – it is very early in the season, but we’re hearing the exact same story as last year. When you collectively take the salaries have extracted which are so far over the top and then add in the legalized theft costs for YES, game ticket and concession prices which require fans to seek Federal bailout funds and it is a reasonable expectation to see at least a competitive ballclub on the field. The Yankees DL list is fast becoming a Xerox copy of the entire roster. Blame Cashman and Girardi for not getting conditioned players who want to play versus counting their money.
Harsh perhaps – but teh Steinbrenners are already looking to raise ticket prices next season by 5% because they are already running 22% below expectations already for revenues.
Wait Wait Wait is all this author can say. Hopefully so, but so far – the Yankees have shown ZIP and by June they will be at least 10 games out of first place if not worse.
NY deserves better from the Yanks and Mets – the results are more like what we’ve seen from WS and Detroit – pay is based on non-performance.
Minus Wang?
“The Yankees have the worst ERA in all of baseball, an amazingly unsightly 6.26.”
Anyone know what the team ERA is without Wang’s innings in there?
The ERA is.....
5.18 without Wang
Good for 24th in baseball right behind the LA Angels and in front of the Twins
@castlerocker
I agree with you. Look at the Sox. Look at what Epstein has built there over the last few seasons. Look at how complete the Sox lineup is. Then look at the team Cashman put together with a much larger budget. Forgetting injuries for a moment, but I think this team has a lot of holes in it. We are getting out GM’d.
it gets late early...
I can appreciate all the sentiment about it still being a young season, but the product I see on the field looks far from a contender. Its hard to stomach that a team with a 200 million dollar payroll can’t produce a real backup third baseman at any level of the minor league system, and I’m not even going to mention the pitchers on this roster. Still, in an effort to be positive, I’d like to comment on the position players at this point.
Teixeira- great glovework, they say he can hit too.
Cano- at least gives the illusion of running hard this year.
Jeter- steadily marching toward 3000, one inconsequential single at a time.
Ransom- best athlete on the team (according to Damon), presumably at any other sport besides baseball.
Berroa- thanks for showing up, keep polishing that ROY trophy, its probably your only legacy.
Swisher- looks great when he’s hittint, and is versatile enough to be mediocre at several positions in the field.
Gardner- a gamer, but you can’t steal first base, though fast centerfielders can apparently steal home if they do get on base against our team.
Damon- a stand up guy, should go sit in the dugout for the remainder of his contract.
Melky- motivated by benching, should now be able to hit .260 or so.
Posada- his arm looks ok, and he’s still trying to learn how to manage a ballgame.
As for Girardi, I miss him as a catcher. As a manager, he is such a genius that I just can’t figure out his moves a lot of the time, but then, I’m no genius. I like the idea of Tony Pena being on the staff for when the axe falls, he is a motivator that players actually seemed to enjoy playing for in the past.
This is shaping up to be a(nother) frustrating season. Those empty seats down low might have company up higher in a few months.
Bench problem
This has been a huge glaring weakness for the Yankees for the past several years. Even with the anticipation of A-Rod coming back ahead of schedule, Cashman absolutely needs to make a move to reinforce the anemic bench. All we have right now worthy of a pinch-hit AB is Melky.
Luc is a complete moron!
“it gets late early…” Not this damn early moron! And way to make zero points in your little post!
the point is
nyc21, that this team is a mess. is that plain enough for you? this series against Boston should be viewed as a serious measuring stick, and right now the Yankees ain’t measuring up. I am a moron, I love this team. You are just foolish if you think things are fine in Yankeeland and trust the current management to right the ship. How much can they do when they are still bound by bad contracts? Tell me what the fix is for this year, braniac? Alex is going to suddenly be a team player and lead them to the promised land? Could happen, I guess…
GM is the problem
Let’s face it: the Yankees have a lousy team. They do not have a bullpen and they don’t have a bench. It is amazing how you can spend such a huge amount of money and not address those areas. The problem has a name and it is Cashman: he wants to be Theo Epstein, but he does not have the brains. Does anyone remember Kevin Brown, Weber and the Big Unit? all great ideas.
My primary concern
right now is starting pitching. Currently the rotation just isn’t giving the team enough quality innings, hence the bullpen is already feeling the effects, albeit this early into the season. If the starters can put in 6-7 good innings, my concerns about the bullpen lessen. I’m interested to see how CC responds tonight. I also have some nagging concerns about Joba’s diminished velocity, compared against his starts last season. The upside is that there are options available for the rotation. Let’s see what Hughes can do.
Offensively, the entire dynamic of the order changes once A-Rod returns. I’ve been impressed by what I’ve seen from Cano and Melky seems to have improved greatly regards his plate discipline, except in high pressure situations, where he still tends to overswing. I’m beginning to think that Gardner just can’t cut it at this level. Love his speed, but it doesn’t matter if he can’t get on base.
As for other issues, I’ve never been a Cashman fan, but no need to cover that ground again. Some of Girardi’s in-game management decisions leave me scratching my head, calling for a bunt to advance the runner when Matsui is on first? I’ve seen him do this twice and still haven’t figured it out.
Bottom line for me is that this team is up to it’s typical early season underachieving ways. I really hoped this would be the year for them to come out of the gate strong. But there is still alot of baseball left and it is far too early to throw in the towel.
by FrankDiscussion on Apr 27, 2009 3:37 PM EDT reply actions
Not ready to
jump off the Whitestone Bridge quite yet. First look at the calendar. Second, we knew without A-Rod the team would tread water. .500 is pretty much the definition of treading water. There is some cause for concern. First that the rotation that was supposed to be great is mediocre at best so far. Second middle relief pitching just outright sucks—then again whose middle relief doesn’t. Bruney and Mo have been the bright spots of the pitching staff. Third is the concern that our farm system appears to be developing a lota of 4-A players( too good for tripleA but not ready for the Majors. Finally, the perception of Cashman vs Epstein will only turn around when the players Cash has brought in via free agency or up from the minors actually produce on the field is pressure situations.
"I don't want one of those guys who'll drive in two but let in three every game." Casey Stengel
by tnredneckyankeesfan on Apr 27, 2009 3:46 PM EDT reply actions
Some Truth
There is some truth in what all of you are saying, but my point is that, at least at this point in the season, the Yankees don’t seem ta have a team that can win the toughest division in MLB. Maybe if they move Joba to the bullpen, use Hughes as a starter and get another starting pitcher (unless a miracle happens and Wang returs to form), they could have a chance. I also agree that Gardner simply cannot hit at this level (his swing is painful to watch). The thing is, although painful to admit, Boston has a better team.
Regarding JC67's comments,
I think the team needs to look at returning Joba to the bullpen as a viable option, but it is still a bit too early to make that call. His velocity is a cause for concern, as well as his abrupt finish, which I still fear puts him at an increased risk for shoulder problems. As I mentioned, the upside is that the team does have options if that move needs to be made.
Regards Boston, I think talent-wise the teams are just about equal, I won’t do a position-by-position comparison, IMO teams win or lose collectively. Boston seems to have this “never say die” attitude regardless of the score, whereas it appears that whenever the Yankees are 2-3 runs down, they just pack it in.
by FrankDiscussion on Apr 27, 2009 4:03 PM EDT reply actions
Agree about
the Red Sox having more heart at the moment-for want of a better term. Disagree about returning Joba to the pen. He battled through 5+ innings . That is assuming Melancon shows the same ability as last night and Breuney returns to good health. To me Melancon’s performance last night bodes well for him. Pitched out of bases loaded jam in the 8th—though he got himself into much of that jam. Gotta see now haow he responds to inherited runners and if the problems of pitching from the stretch continue. The two innings he worked were sure a good example of what happens when a pitcher gets first pitch strikes like in the7th and doesn’t like in the 8th.
"I don't want one of those guys who'll drive in two but let in three every game." Casey Stengel
by tnredneckyankeesfan on Apr 27, 2009 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree with you in theory,
tnredneckyankeesfan about Joba, it’s far too early to judge his ability as a starter based on this small sample size, I’d just like to keep the 8th inning role available as an option if the shoulder issues flare up again. As I mentioned I am concerned about Joba’s velocity, given last season he was consistently in the 95mph area, this season his fastball seems to be hovering around 92, and those numbers are based on PitchFX data. Could just be that his arm strength isn’t where it should be, but that is a fairly significant decrease in velocity.
by FrankDiscussion on Apr 27, 2009 4:28 PM EDT reply actions
Leave Joba in the rotation
If Hughes pitches well and Wang comes back healthy, why not use Hughes, IPK, or Aceves like the Sox do Masterson? Yeah they are all projected starters, but they’re also Yankee farm hands who should be utilized to help the Major League club win. It couldn’t hurt our long man problem either.
"Here, if you have a milkshake, and I have a milkshake, and I have a straw. There it is, that's a straw, you see? You watching?. And my straw reaches acroooooooss the room, and starts to drink your milkshake... I... drink... your... milkshake!"-Daniel Plainview
by yankee come lately on Apr 27, 2009 5:14 PM EDT reply actions
This discussion is all well and good but the funny thing is that
Had Mo not blown Friday’s game and had AJ not melted down on Saturday, we would not be having this discussion.
And
And if Bucky Dent popped up and Grady took out Aaron Boone…
by SullyBaseball on Apr 27, 2009 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions
And
if ifs and buts were candy and nuts it’d be Christmas every day
"I don't want one of those guys who'll drive in two but let in three every game." Casey Stengel
by tnredneckyankeesfan on Apr 28, 2009 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Agree.
way too early. yankees always get off to slow stars, in 07 they were 8-13 on April 27, 06- 11-9, 05 9-12,04 9-11. they made the playoffs every year those years. like you said 144 games left, and wang is responsible for alot he has tired out the bullpen and A-rod isnt even playing. the red sox fans can laugh at us now, but we will be laughing in October. GO YANKEES!!!!
by donnybaseball23 on Apr 27, 2009 8:57 PM EDT reply actions
So true. The Yanks have been terrible in clutch situations and
the return of ARod should…uhm…oh never mind.
Agree some what
I agree is a little early to to be worried but there should be some concern now that’s early in the season rather than wait till mid season when its almost over.
1. pitchers are not playing well it has to do with Posada…. he didn’t play for most of last season.. Use him as DH and let Molina catch.. I love him as a hitter but as a catcher he is loosing it every season. it showed on Sunday.
2. Garner has speed but what good is it if he can’t get on Base. Bring Shelly Duncan back the guy at least can hit..
3. Teixera needs a few days of rest to get his hitting back.. and count his dollars..
4. Girardi needs to use Jose veras much earlier in the 6th or 7th inning if he needs him… correct me if i am wrong but didnt he last 2 or 3 innings in that 14th inning loss.
Melancon did ok for his first big outing. keep him in the 8th inning. Dont send him back to minors so fast..
Redsox wont stay hot the whole season.. they slow down in June.. they showed that in the past.. Yankees need to get rid of Cashman.. he has shown that all his costly additions have done crap for the team…. except raise the TIcket prices..
Cash man must go
I have been a Yankee Fan for my entire life. The past three, four years are proof that Cashman must go. I’m confused why they re-signed him. We still don’t have a bullpen.
Rivera is getting old, god bless him, and our beanch is superior to none.
He waited to long to go get starting pitchers and has this team in a panic mode.
I’m not just saying this because of ur slow start (Again). I have been saying this for years.
Aside from this, I have some positive statements to make:
Texiera is usually a slow starter, and we need his bat.
A-Rod should be coming back shortly and let’s hope they are not rushing him back to soon.
Wang’s aweful start was not predicted by almost anyone.
CC Sabathia’s start last year was worse than this year so I can only hope the rest of his year is better than last ( that would be great).
AJ Burnett has pitched fairly well, only one outing has been bad.
Cano is maybe living up to Don Mattingly’s prediction that he will win a batting title some year ( that would be great).
Phil Hughes looked very good last night and all spring! The Franchise is back!
Joba should be moved to long relief again, where he should have stayed all along.
Melky got a wake up call, but then again he started hot last year, don’t forget that please.
Despite all our problems, we are still 10-10, not bad considering if the season ended now, Toronto wins the division, Tampa the reigning Champions of the AL are behind us, and Seattle leads the West. And you got to love this, our crosstown Mets are not doing so great either (that always gives me a boost).
So there is still hope in Yankee Land.

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